comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 6 minutes ago
this can easily be solved, put messi at cb for a game, put vvd in messis position, see who does worse
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Good idea.

--------------------Allison

TAA--------Messi-------Matip----Robertson

-------------------Fabinho
---------Henderson----Wijnaldum

Salah------------Firmino--------------Mane



----------------Suarez---Van Dijk

Coutinho-----Vidal----Busquets------Rakitic

Alba---------Lenglet-----Pique-----Roberto

------------------Ter Stegen


*Teams based on last season

You boys could be right, the Barcelona team does look a lot stronger with Van Dijk, than the Liverpool team does with Messi.

pride.

Tbf a mixed 11 would be:

Mane Messi Salah (sorry bobby)

Wijnaldum Fabinho Rakitic
Robertson VVD Matip TAA

Could potentiall add coutinho who's flattered to deceive and alba for robbo.

Barcelona on the wane atm, without messi they'd struggle, as shown so far this year.

Wij and Rakatic?

Wij doesn't even get in ahead of Hendo for us let alone a mixed team and Rakatic? It's not 2016.

Swap Hendo for rakitic then if you'd like adam.

Goes to show what a season messi had with his team compared to liverpools team.

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 50 minutes ago
pride.

Tbf a mixed 11 would be:

Mane Messi Salah (sorry bobby)

Wijnaldum Fabinho Rakitic
Robertson VVD Matip TAA

Could potentiall add coutinho who's flattered to deceive and alba for robbo.

Barcelona on the wane atm, without messi they'd struggle, as shown so far this year.
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You’ve done a mixed 10 there

Alisson
Trent Gomez VVD Alba
Busquets
Arthur Coutinho
Salah Messi Mane

Klopp as manager though so Coutinho can work.

Jokes a side, I think that highlights who's had the better team around him

And Robbing, Rakitic played 54 games last year, the joint highest for Barcelona, so I'm not sure what you're trying to make up this time

comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
Alisson
Trent Gomez VVD Alba
Busquets
Arthur Coutinho
Salah Messi Mane

Klopp as manager though so Coutinho can work.
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Busquets is finished, has been pretty average for a couple years now from the matches i've seen. Arthur really? Guy only started 19 league games last year

comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 15 minutes ago
Jokes a side, I think that highlights who's had the better team around him

And Robbing, Rakitic played 54 games last year, the joint highest for Barcelona, so I'm not sure what you're trying to make up this time
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Ive not made anything up but regardless I think his legs have gone. Was absolutely woeful in both legs against us and got run over.

comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 15 minutes ago
Jokes a side, I think that highlights who's had the better team around him

And Robbing, Rakitic played 54 games last year, the joint highest for Barcelona, so I'm not sure what you're trying to make up this time
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Ive not made anything up but regardless I think his legs have gone. Was absolutely woeful in both legs against us and got run over.
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He still played virtually every game last season, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to argue him being in last seasons 11?

comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 15 minutes ago
Jokes a side, I think that highlights who's had the better team around him

And Robbing, Rakitic played 54 games last year, the joint highest for Barcelona, so I'm not sure what you're trying to make up this time
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Ive not made anything up but regardless I think his legs have gone. Was absolutely woeful in both legs against us and got run over.
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He still played virtually every game last season, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to argue him being in last seasons 11?
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Yeah its crazy to challenge a view point on a debating site. Good post again.

Busquets played more minutes than him in the league. Don't know what's that's supposed to show in this context but you can put it in a spread sheet as well.

comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 15 minutes ago
Jokes a side, I think that highlights who's had the better team around him

And Robbing, Rakitic played 54 games last year, the joint highest for Barcelona, so I'm not sure what you're trying to make up this time
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Ive not made anything up but regardless I think his legs have gone. Was absolutely woeful in both legs against us and got run over.
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He still played virtually every game last season, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to argue him being in last seasons 11?
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Yeah its crazy to challenge a view point on a debating site. Good post again.

Busquets played more minutes than him in the league. Don't know what's that's supposed to show in this context but you can put it in a spread sheet as well.
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I don't think you actually read the post did you and now you've realised you were wrong you'r still digging a bigger hole for yourself

Eh?

No I read it and I dont think Ivan Rakatic should be anywhere near a joint best 11 and especially on the basis of how many minutes a manager decided to play him. Much like I think Arthur is absolute quality and I dont really care if Valverde decided to not start him much.

Ive then taken those opinions and posted them on a sports debating site and that's about it.

No digging and certainly not relying on stats.

It's not a best 11, it's the teams Messi and VVD played with last season...

And I agree Arthur should be starting every game and should have started at Anfield.

No its was in reference to Niks joint best 11 post above.

Awkward.

So if you knew that then why are you arguing you weapon

bEcAuSe i DoNt aGrEe wItH iT aNd iTz A dEbAtInG fOrUm.

comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 3 minutes ago
So if you knew that then why are you arguing you weapon
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He's at it again!!!

Like dust in the wind

Are you drunk?

Genuine question.

I mean yoyve just said Ive read it wrong, when it turns out youre wrong and now youre writing obscure metaphors rather than just apologising.

I mean is there anything, specifically, that Ive actually written that you want to take issue with and debate?

Im not talking about what going on in your head, but literally what Ive written.

Paste it below if you like.

comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 7 minutes ago
Like dust in the wind
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😂

Messi

Rivalry aside, Trent and Robertson deserve to be in the team of the year over Ramos and Marcelo.

Yeah I guess messi having a poorer team went for him this time. Deserved winner