He's actually got a good skill set. Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
He's actually got a good skill set. Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
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Poor effort on your part I might add
With the Ropey and League Cup starting hopefully we will see a lot more of him, even it is only in those cup competitions to begin with.
He does seem to be behind McT, Pogba, Matic in the pecking order for that midfield 2.
Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
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If only our manager saw this.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
He's actually got a good skill set. Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
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Poor effort on your part I might add
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Eh?
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 42 seconds ago
Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
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If only our manager saw this.
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It mad how some managers are so stubbourn but maybe that's actually needed in top management. I cant actually see the reasoning that Pogba in a deep two is the right way to go.
Poor effort on your part I might add
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Eh?
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For not watching them in training, Hoody.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Poor effort on your part I might add
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Eh?
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For not watching them in training, Hoody.
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They wont let me into Carrington anymore
He’ll play Thursday I reckon.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Poor effort on your part I might add
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Eh?
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For not watching them in training, Hoody.
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They wont let me into Carrington anymore
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Probably for your own good tbh... The amount of players seen going into sign and never appearing for us is frightening
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 16 minutes ago
Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
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If only our manager saw this.
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I problem I have is that I don't think Pogba is particularly effective as and out and out #10 (if that is what is being proposed).
The left of a midfield 3 (with the right players next to him to balance out his lack of discipline off the ball) to me seems to be the only position to make Pogba effective. It does take a lot of pandering to get the best out of him.
He's an attacking 8 all day long and twice on Sundays. Why you wouldnt want such a clean striker of the ball, who can generate lots of power with little back lift in and around the box I dont know. He's more than decent in the air too.
I problem I have is that I don't think Pogba is particularly effective as and out and out #10 (if that is what is being proposed).
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It isn't.
...........................McT.........................
..............Fred....................Pogba............
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It could be due to Pogba wanting to leave that a system is being put into place that'll work once he's sold and the right players signed to replace him.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
I problem I have is that I don't think Pogba is particularly effective as and out and out #10 (if that is what is being proposed).
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It isn't.
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..............Fred....................Pogba............
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Fred didn't seem to have any understanding with Pogba when they did play together last season. If we use this, hopefully he's more settled and knows what to do. Or swap him and McTominay around.
For instance he’d get an opportunity and maybe have a good game
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Quite honestly, I only remember him having one good game at PSG. And even that was more to do with him showing discipline rather than any moments of real quality.
It's no exaggeration to say he was nothing other than absolute shīte the rest of the time. I put it down to Jose's set up at first but his passing, his touch etc. was just atrocious.
He doesn't even have to be top quality - if he could just become a competent central midfielder this season it would do us a world of good because we dont have many of those. I cant see it though, really think we've been sold a dud.
He was utterly awful for us against Everton when we were battered 4-0 and think he only played once after that
It’s no surprise he looked good against PSG as I feel he’s more used to a CL style rather than the PL.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 22 minutes ago
He's an attacking 8 all day long and twice on Sundays. Why you wouldnt want such a clean striker of the ball, who can generate lots of power with little back lift in and around the box I dont know. He's more than decent in the air too.
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Because Ole is wedded to the 4-2-3-1. He clearly isn’t building his team around any given player.
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 22 minutes ago
He's an attacking 8 all day long and twice on Sundays. Why you wouldnt want such a clean striker of the ball, who can generate lots of power with little back lift in and around the box I dont know. He's more than decent in the air too.
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Because Ole is wedded to the 4-2-3-1. He clearly isn’t building his team around any given player.
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I think thats a bad idea. Im a big advocate of creating a system that suits the players, maximises it's strengths and covers it's weaknesses (sounds obvious I know).
Im not sure playing Pogba there does any of that although Im thinking you already know this.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 16 minutes ago
Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
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If only our manager saw this.
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I problem I have is that I don't think Pogba is particularly effective as and out and out #10 (if that is what is being proposed).
The left of a midfield 3 (with the right players next to him to balance out his lack of discipline off the ball) to me seems to be the only position to make Pogba effective. It does take a lot of pandering to get the best out of him.
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Says a lot about pogba that the only position he’s really effective in is on the left of a midfield 3. That aside, ole needs to try and adapt to play this, it’s clear to everyone that pogba is no use in a midfield 2, he lacks the attributes and tactical mentality to play there, and it also blunts what he’s very good at, creating things further forward.
I don't rate Fred, however I do feel his natural attributes would benefit this side in the here and now.
I hear people slating Chong, but when he and Fred came on the game changed. As they were getting a foothold and we couldn't keep possession, James and Chong on the wings pinned their full backs back. Their urgency both in and out of possession gave Leicester something to think about.
Subtle but important changes from Ole that helped us see the game out, because I believe a goal was imminent.
I dont think it says that much about Pogba. Play Busquet at 8 and he'd be rubbish. Sure some players are more versatile but I dont see the problem in being a specialist 8.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I dont think it says that much about Pogba. Play Busquet at 8 and he'd be rubbish. Sure some players are more versatile but I dont see the problem in being a specialist 8.
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Kind of my point, try and use him where he’s effective.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 22 minutes ago
He's an attacking 8 all day long and twice on Sundays. Why you wouldnt want such a clean striker of the ball, who can generate lots of power with little back lift in and around the box I dont know. He's more than decent in the air too.
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Because Ole is wedded to the 4-2-3-1. He clearly isn’t building his team around any given player.
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I think thats a bad idea. Im a big advocate of creating a system that suits the players, maximises it's strengths and covers it's weaknesses (sounds obvious I know).
Im not sure playing Pogba there does any of that although Im thinking you already know this.
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You would be correct.
If we are sticking blindly to the 4-2-3-1 and Ole is determined that this is the game plan we’ll be using all season, we should be looking to offload Pogba this winter and using the cash to buy at least one top drawer number six and a number ten.
Pogba is neither, and we are short in both areas (unless Ole has faith in Gomes to play at ten, but that doesn’t seem to be the case).
He was utterly awful for us against Everton when we were battered 4-0 and think he only played once after that
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So was everyone else in a red shirt that day. Pogba was playing too deep in that match and Lukaku made himself available never.
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posted on 16/9/19
He's actually got a good skill set. Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
He's actually got a good skill set. Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
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Poor effort on your part I might add
posted on 16/9/19
With the Ropey and League Cup starting hopefully we will see a lot more of him, even it is only in those cup competitions to begin with.
He does seem to be behind McT, Pogba, Matic in the pecking order for that midfield 2.
posted on 16/9/19
Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
..................
If only our manager saw this.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
He's actually got a good skill set. Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
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Poor effort on your part I might add
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Eh?
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 42 seconds ago
Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
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If only our manager saw this.
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It mad how some managers are so stubbourn but maybe that's actually needed in top management. I cant actually see the reasoning that Pogba in a deep two is the right way to go.
posted on 16/9/19
Poor effort on your part I might add
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Eh?
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For not watching them in training, Hoody.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Poor effort on your part I might add
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Eh?
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For not watching them in training, Hoody.
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They wont let me into Carrington anymore
posted on 16/9/19
He’ll play Thursday I reckon.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
Poor effort on your part I might add
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Eh?
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For not watching them in training, Hoody.
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They wont let me into Carrington anymore
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Probably for your own good tbh... The amount of players seen going into sign and never appearing for us is frightening
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 16 minutes ago
Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
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If only our manager saw this.
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I problem I have is that I don't think Pogba is particularly effective as and out and out #10 (if that is what is being proposed).
The left of a midfield 3 (with the right players next to him to balance out his lack of discipline off the ball) to me seems to be the only position to make Pogba effective. It does take a lot of pandering to get the best out of him.
posted on 16/9/19
He's an attacking 8 all day long and twice on Sundays. Why you wouldnt want such a clean striker of the ball, who can generate lots of power with little back lift in and around the box I dont know. He's more than decent in the air too.
posted on 16/9/19
I problem I have is that I don't think Pogba is particularly effective as and out and out #10 (if that is what is being proposed).
...........
It isn't.
...........................McT.........................
..............Fred....................Pogba............
..................Front Three...................................
posted on 16/9/19
It could be due to Pogba wanting to leave that a system is being put into place that'll work once he's sold and the right players signed to replace him.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
I problem I have is that I don't think Pogba is particularly effective as and out and out #10 (if that is what is being proposed).
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It isn't.
...........................McT.........................
..............Fred....................Pogba............
..................Front Three...................................
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Fred didn't seem to have any understanding with Pogba when they did play together last season. If we use this, hopefully he's more settled and knows what to do. Or swap him and McTominay around.
posted on 16/9/19
For instance he’d get an opportunity and maybe have a good game
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Quite honestly, I only remember him having one good game at PSG. And even that was more to do with him showing discipline rather than any moments of real quality.
It's no exaggeration to say he was nothing other than absolute shīte the rest of the time. I put it down to Jose's set up at first but his passing, his touch etc. was just atrocious.
He doesn't even have to be top quality - if he could just become a competent central midfielder this season it would do us a world of good because we dont have many of those. I cant see it though, really think we've been sold a dud.
posted on 16/9/19
He was utterly awful for us against Everton when we were battered 4-0 and think he only played once after that
It’s no surprise he looked good against PSG as I feel he’s more used to a CL style rather than the PL.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 22 minutes ago
He's an attacking 8 all day long and twice on Sundays. Why you wouldnt want such a clean striker of the ball, who can generate lots of power with little back lift in and around the box I dont know. He's more than decent in the air too.
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Because Ole is wedded to the 4-2-3-1. He clearly isn’t building his team around any given player.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 22 minutes ago
He's an attacking 8 all day long and twice on Sundays. Why you wouldnt want such a clean striker of the ball, who can generate lots of power with little back lift in and around the box I dont know. He's more than decent in the air too.
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Because Ole is wedded to the 4-2-3-1. He clearly isn’t building his team around any given player.
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I think thats a bad idea. Im a big advocate of creating a system that suits the players, maximises it's strengths and covers it's weaknesses (sounds obvious I know).
Im not sure playing Pogba there does any of that although Im thinking you already know this.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 16 minutes ago
Personally I would put him in ahead of Pereira and then move Pogba forward but I don't get to watch them in training.
..................
If only our manager saw this.
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I problem I have is that I don't think Pogba is particularly effective as and out and out #10 (if that is what is being proposed).
The left of a midfield 3 (with the right players next to him to balance out his lack of discipline off the ball) to me seems to be the only position to make Pogba effective. It does take a lot of pandering to get the best out of him.
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Says a lot about pogba that the only position he’s really effective in is on the left of a midfield 3. That aside, ole needs to try and adapt to play this, it’s clear to everyone that pogba is no use in a midfield 2, he lacks the attributes and tactical mentality to play there, and it also blunts what he’s very good at, creating things further forward.
posted on 16/9/19
I don't rate Fred, however I do feel his natural attributes would benefit this side in the here and now.
I hear people slating Chong, but when he and Fred came on the game changed. As they were getting a foothold and we couldn't keep possession, James and Chong on the wings pinned their full backs back. Their urgency both in and out of possession gave Leicester something to think about.
Subtle but important changes from Ole that helped us see the game out, because I believe a goal was imminent.
posted on 16/9/19
I dont think it says that much about Pogba. Play Busquet at 8 and he'd be rubbish. Sure some players are more versatile but I dont see the problem in being a specialist 8.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I dont think it says that much about Pogba. Play Busquet at 8 and he'd be rubbish. Sure some players are more versatile but I dont see the problem in being a specialist 8.
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Kind of my point, try and use him where he’s effective.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 22 minutes ago
He's an attacking 8 all day long and twice on Sundays. Why you wouldnt want such a clean striker of the ball, who can generate lots of power with little back lift in and around the box I dont know. He's more than decent in the air too.
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Because Ole is wedded to the 4-2-3-1. He clearly isn’t building his team around any given player.
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I think thats a bad idea. Im a big advocate of creating a system that suits the players, maximises it's strengths and covers it's weaknesses (sounds obvious I know).
Im not sure playing Pogba there does any of that although Im thinking you already know this.
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You would be correct.
If we are sticking blindly to the 4-2-3-1 and Ole is determined that this is the game plan we’ll be using all season, we should be looking to offload Pogba this winter and using the cash to buy at least one top drawer number six and a number ten.
Pogba is neither, and we are short in both areas (unless Ole has faith in Gomes to play at ten, but that doesn’t seem to be the case).
posted on 16/9/19
He was utterly awful for us against Everton when we were battered 4-0 and think he only played once after that
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So was everyone else in a red shirt that day. Pogba was playing too deep in that match and Lukaku made himself available never.
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