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Is Rashford a Problem?

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posted on 20/9/19

comment by Reason-Not-the-Need (U4135)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
What irritates about Rashford is not his poor form. It's his attitude, his arrogance, and his nonchalance. Take, for example the opportunities he missed yesterday. There was something disgustingly arrogant about the way he tried to score. And for this, and for his own good, he needs to be dropped. I also think that Lingard is a bad influence on him.
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posted on 20/9/19

I reckon Sir Alex would give Rashford a couple of matches on the bench and tell the lad to watch some football. Watching from a bench is a great way to get your head squared away again, but Ole's showing him this unwavering respect, and it's not working. He's still going to be a real player for us.

posted on 20/9/19

comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Reason-Not-the-Need (U4135)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
What irritates about Rashford is not his poor form. It's his attitude, his arrogance, and his nonchalance. Take, for example the opportunities he missed yesterday. There was something disgustingly arrogant about the way he tried to score. And for this, and for his own good, he needs to be dropped. I also think that Lingard is a bad influence on him.
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Funnily enough I did see anecdotal reports about how rashy had become much more arrogant and self entitled. How true these were is anyone’s guess.

comment by Firkin (U19526)

posted on 20/9/19

Think about Sterling; he went through patches, especially for England, when he was much criticised. Now he's among the best players in the world on form.

Rashford is 21 and he's getting lots of big game experience. He's a few years younger than Sterling, and the latter has only really hit top form in the last 18 months.

posted on 20/9/19

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Reason-Not-the-Need (U4135)
posted 35 minutes ago
What irritates about Rashford is not his poor form. It's his attitude, his arrogance, and his nonchalance. Take, for example the opportunities he missed yesterday. There was something disgustingly arrogant about the way he tried to score. And for this, and for his own good, he needs to be dropped. I also think that Lingard is a bad influence on him.
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Really? Don’t always agree with Lingards off field behavior but you he doesn’t try to play with any arrogance.
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I wish Lingard did play with arrogance. For all his Instagram bravado and dabbing celebrations he always seems a bit timid when playing to me.

I actually understand the point about Rashford. He does seem, over the last year, to have developed a more egotistical side. Shooting from ridiculous distances, trying Ronaldo-esque free-kicks, of which I can only remember one going in. These are little things; it’s something about his body language as well. To be fair to him, he’s had a lot of pressure and expectation heaped on him very early. I don’t think it’s done him much good and this is why I worry about other youngsters breaking into a team that isn’t where we’d want it to be.

posted on 20/9/19

Problem is Rashford is expected to be our main man but there’s probably 10-15 better attackers in the PL alone right now.

posted on 20/9/19

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
Problem is Rashford is expected to be our main man but there’s probably 10-15 better attackers in the PL alone right now.
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Yep this is the crux of it.

I guess it depends on where you stand with the issue of gradually developing a young team. Because these are the growing pains that come with such an approach.

Personally I don’t think it’s the way to go. It’s also one of the worries I have with signing Sancho as we’d still be relying on young forward line to deliver on a consistent basis.

posted on 20/9/19

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Reason-Not-the-Need (U4135)
posted 35 minutes ago


To be fair to him, he’s had a lot of pressure and expectation heaped on him very early. I don’t think it’s done him much good and this is why I worry about other youngsters breaking into a team that isn’t where we’d want it to be.
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I think it's more of this and less of Marcus' ego. He looks too tight out there.

posted on 20/9/19

comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 10 hours, 12 minutes ago
Rashford has gone into himself a bit. For me he's at his best when going at players. He's got such good balance and can go either way but the pressure he is under must be insane. He's now on a huge contract and arguable Man Utds number one striker.

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True. As opposition fan supporter I always thought he could/should be equally effective as a winger or striker. Miles away in quality but he is still similar in style to Mbappe who is world class in any forward position.

posted on 20/9/19

He is equally inconsistent as a striker and a winger.

posted on 20/9/19

Sterling has learnt a lot from Pep. Remains to be seen whether or not Ole can do the same for our young players

posted on 20/9/19

Sterling’s always been a very intelligent player. He’s obviously developed more and gone up a level at City, but he had a good footballing brain to begin with. Rashford is lacking in comparison. And where Ole will be lacking as a coach in comparison to Pep, we as a team and squad are also lacking in quality and intelligence compared to City so Rashford lacks the top professionals in the squad that can aid his development.

posted on 20/9/19

comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Reason-Not-the-Need (U4135)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
What irritates about Rashford is not his poor form. It's his attitude, his arrogance, and his nonchalance. Take, for example the opportunities he missed yesterday. There was something disgustingly arrogant about the way he tried to score. And for this, and for his own good, he needs to be dropped. I also think that Lingard is a bad influence on him.
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If you can't read Rashford's arrogance in his body language, then you are either blind or stupid.

posted on 20/9/19

I think Mourinho making Rashford bulk up ruined his finishing ability. Now he just likes hitting the ball hard but can't finish. Turned into Welbeck for us. Just hoping Greenwood can be the striker we need. We create a lot of chances and Rashford messes most of them. If you analyse our struggles since April last season to now, its nothing to do with tactics. We outplayed the opposition pretty much every game but we can't finish and the opposition are lethal. The opposition need very few shots to score against us but we need tons of shots just to score. You see teams fighting regularly for top 4 like Arsenal and Spurs usually need tons of shots against them to concede and very few shots to score. We are the only top 6 side who need tons of shots to score and very few shots to concede.

posted on 20/9/19

I think Mourinho making Rashford bulk up ruined his finishing ability.
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Ffs, Hafi.

posted on 20/9/19

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/marcus-rashford-having-same-finishing-18954754

I suppose the fact he has had the best chances of any player in the league even if that includes pens and also probably the most chances in the EL means all he needs to work on is his finishing. Its amazing footballers at Man Utd get paid so much but can't shoot a ball past a keeper.

If I was the Glazers I would add a clause to every new contract that if you are wasteful in front of goal you will get 1/2th your wages. Noticed since SAF left we must have had so many one sided games we failed to win due to wasteful finishing by us and clinical finsihing by the opposition. You rarely see any top team be so inefficient at both ends as we have been since SAF left.

posted on 20/9/19

If you look at the Wolves, Palace, and Southampton games, any other side than us with that domination would have won by a few goals going by the positions we got ourselves in and siege of attacks we had. How can we drop 7 points in games the opposition barely went into our half in those 3 games. Even the Europa League game the opposition were just allowing us to attack all game and we create the chances and miss them regularly. Missed about 4 great chances.

The thing is Solskjaer is having to have us play like title winners to scrape top 4. Last season bad run of form was nothing to do with tactics. De Gea was having howlers and not really saving anything last couple of months of the season while we were needing nearly 30 shots per goal.

comment by IAmMe (U18491)

posted on 20/9/19

"Is Rashford a Problem?

nope, but he is a symptom

'the problem(s)' = the academy, scouts, direction and transfer policy (much of which is interlinked)

posted on 21/9/19

comment by Reason-Not-the-Need (U4135)
posted 12 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 3 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Reason-Not-the-Need (U4135)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
What irritates about Rashford is not his poor form. It's his attitude, his arrogance, and his nonchalance. Take, for example the opportunities he missed yesterday. There was something disgustingly arrogant about the way he tried to score. And for this, and for his own good, he needs to be dropped. I also think that Lingard is a bad influence on him.
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If you can't read Rashford's arrogance in his body language, then you are either blind or stupid.
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I was laughing more at the idea that Lingard is a “bad influence” on Rashford.

Facking hell, people really hate Jesse, don’t they?!

posted on 21/9/19

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 21 hours, 3 minutes ago
Lambeau

He is 22 next month. He has been around long enough now to not be a youngster.
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That’s true. I’ve had my own doubts about him for a while now. I’ve questioned his mentality and decision making, but have given him the benefit of the doubt - inconsistent management and team selection possibly being a factor.

He definitely needs to improve, but I don’t fully understand what’s behind his regression from his first couple of years in the team. I think he’s seriously let down by the lack of leaders in our team.

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