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Last night it took 29 minutes for us to have our first attempt on goal. In every single PL match this season no team has taken as long to have an attempt on goal.
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
hippopotamus (U1301)
Because it's impossible to know without giving him a go.
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loan him out and if he turns out to be one of the best players in the league he can start for us.
that is how real serious teams do it. Case in point: bayern hardly ever bring through a youngster because the chances are he won't be the one of the best players in the country. Serge Gnabry was bought and proved himself on loan to be one of the best offensive players in Germany. He was therefore allowed to play in the Bayern first team.
They don't trial players in their own first team.
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It's one option, but not all teams do that.
I agree that his route into the team should be more gradual and like Rashford, the lack of experience in the squad is leading him to have too vital a role for a youngster, but I don't agree that he shouldn't be integrated into the team.
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
Last night it took 29 minutes for us to have our first attempt on goal. In every single PL match this season no team has taken as long to have an attempt on goal.
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Oh I didn't know that.
Sack Ed, sack Ole and close the club. We can't come back from that.
Everyone should be surprised at how bad we are
Its surprising that there are people who are not surprised at how mediocre we have become
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comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
Last night it took 29 minutes for us to have our first attempt on goal. In every single PL match this season no team has taken as long to have an attempt on goal.
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Oh I didn't know that.
Sack Ed, sack Ole and close the club. We can't come back from that.
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It’s just a sign of the malaise at the club. There will be a tipping point and probably quite soon. And if Ole is sacked I don’t think he could turn around and feel he was doing a good enough job in the time he did have
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by hippopotamus (U1301)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
hippopotamus (U1301)
Because it's impossible to know without giving him a go.
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loan him out and if he turns out to be one of the best players in the league he can start for us.
that is how real serious teams do it. Case in point: bayern hardly ever bring through a youngster because the chances are he won't be the one of the best players in the country. Serge Gnabry was bought and proved himself on loan to be one of the best offensive players in Germany. He was therefore allowed to play in the Bayern first team.
They don't trial players in their own first team.
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It's one option, but not all teams do that.
I agree that his route into the team should be more gradual and like Rashford, the lack of experience in the squad is leading him to have too vital a role for a youngster, but I don't agree that he shouldn't be integrated into the team.
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the teams who want to win championships do.
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Fairly sure Liverpool don't.
Spurs don't always do it.
City don't use youngsters!
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posted 9 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Poor managers with their hands tied behind their backs. Fack up.
They have all spent huge sums of money just mostly on the wrong players with different styles etc. The lack of cohesion at the club got you here.
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Four different managers with completely different approaches and completely different ideas about what the squad profile should look like.
We’ve got a Frankenstein squad, and that isn’t the manager’s fault, nor was it Mourinho’s or LVG’s.
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comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Poor managers with their hands tied behind their backs. Fack up.
They have all spent huge sums of money just mostly on the wrong players with different styles etc. The lack of cohesion at the club got you here.
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Four different managers with completely different approaches and completely different ideas about what the squad profile should look like.
We’ve got a Frankenstein squad, and that isn’t the manager’s fault, nor was it Mourinho’s or LVG’s.
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Yes agreed but your original point about those managers having their hands tied is nonsense.
It's just been spent horrendously and as you say on a mishmash of styles that doesn't give you the players for a cohesive team.
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Yeah, but you genuinely think the likes of Pep and Klopp would struggle just as badly under Ed. Which isn’t true. Even a misfiring Jose took us to 2nd and as many points that won a title 2 seasons before.
With a better manager than Jose we could very well succeed in spite of Ed - right now we’re handicapping ourselves with a manager clearly out of his depth and the fans are enabling Ed without even realising it by supporting such a poor appointment
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I didn’t say that Pep or Klopp would struggle “just as badly” as Mourinho or Ole, Robb.
I said that any manager would struggle. And I absolutely stand by that.
I don’t believe there is any success in spite of Ed. There are relative successes and failures, but if you make the wrong appointments at the wrong times and chop and change every couple of seasons whilst signing the wrong players, tying up your wage bill with ridiculous offers and facking contract renewals up, you won’t be winning the PL or CL, never mind build sustained success.
If Pep had replaced Jose, for argument’s sake, how long do you think he’d have needed to sort out the squad he’d inherited and get in enough players who can play the kind of way he requires?
Can you imagine any of DDG, Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Young, Shaw, Matic, McT, Lingard, Sanchez, Lukaku, Rashford or Martial playing Pep-ball?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 44 minutes ago
Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
How many games have you seen Chelsea play, rather than watching MOTD?
I'm not saying you're wrong, but they have issues like we do and given the state of affairs in the table, particularly as it's only 7 games in, I really don't see how you can make any conclusions about the two clubs.
I would say though, that I think the fact they have Kante is a major boost. Stick him in our team and it'd be a lot better.
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Kante has barely played. We will be MUCH better once he is fully fit.
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Yeah, but you genuinely think the likes of Pep and Klopp would struggle just as badly under Ed. Which isn’t true. Even a misfiring Jose took us to 2nd and as many points that won a title 2 seasons before.
With a better manager than Jose we could very well succeed in spite of Ed - right now we’re handicapping ourselves with a manager clearly out of his depth and the fans are enabling Ed without even realising it by supporting such a poor appointment
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I didn’t say that Pep or Klopp would struggle “just as badly” as Mourinho or Ole, Robb.
I said that any manager would struggle. And I absolutely stand by that.
I don’t believe there is any success in spite of Ed. There are relative successes and failures, but if you make the wrong appointments at the wrong times and chop and change every couple of seasons whilst signing the wrong players, tying up your wage bill with ridiculous offers and facking contract renewals up, you won’t be winning the PL or CL, never mind build sustained success.
If Pep had replaced Jose, for argument’s sake, how long do you think he’d have needed to sort out the squad he’d inherited and get in enough players who can play the kind of way he requires?
Can you imagine any of DDG, Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Young, Shaw, Matic, McT, Lingard, Sanchez, Lukaku, Rashford or Martial playing Pep-ball?
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I think within one season he would have the players inspired by what he espouses and while not getting 100 points a season anytime soon would be having a clear philosophy and not making the boneheaded decisions than Ole is making.
Ed is a handicap - no doubt about that. But Ole’s continued tactical naivety is also destructive too. The sooner people realise that the sooner we can work to find a capable replacement. Just because Ole isn’t the main problem doesn’t mean he’s the solution either.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Poor managers with their hands tied behind their backs. Fack up.
They have all spent huge sums of money just mostly on the wrong players with different styles etc. The lack of cohesion at the club got you here.
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Four different managers with completely different approaches and completely different ideas about what the squad profile should look like.
We’ve got a Frankenstein squad, and that isn’t the manager’s fault, nor was it Mourinho’s or LVG’s.
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Yes agreed but your original point about those managers having their hands tied is nonsense.
It's just been spent horrendously and as you say on a mishmash of styles that doesn't give you the players for a cohesive team.
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You are aware that managers don’t have executive authority over transfers at United, no?
You are aware that managers need more than just cash spent on transfers?
Each one had a completely different vision for the squad (because Ed doesn’t understand that different coaches have different requirements) and has needed time to reshape it. No manager has been given the opportunity to do that yet, and each new manager has started with a squad that doesn’t suit his approach before being denied targets or the opportunity to manage the existing squad.
I disagreed with him completely, but Mourinho wanted rid of Martial. He wasn’t allowed to do that. He wanted another centreback last summer. He wasn’t allowed that.
You can’t just argue that “money was spent”. Of course it was; but if the missus’s car needs a new carburettor and I just put new tyres on it, that’s not really any good to her is it?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by hippopotamus (U1301)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by hippopotamus (U1301)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
hippopotamus (U1301)
Because it's impossible to know without giving him a go.
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loan him out and if he turns out to be one of the best players in the league he can start for us.
that is how real serious teams do it. Case in point: bayern hardly ever bring through a youngster because the chances are he won't be the one of the best players in the country. Serge Gnabry was bought and proved himself on loan to be one of the best offensive players in Germany. He was therefore allowed to play in the Bayern first team.
They don't trial players in their own first team.
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It's one option, but not all teams do that.
I agree that his route into the team should be more gradual and like Rashford, the lack of experience in the squad is leading him to have too vital a role for a youngster, but I don't agree that he shouldn't be integrated into the team.
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the teams who want to win championships do.
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Fairly sure Liverpool don't.
Spurs don't always do it.
City don't use youngsters!
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We do, just not ones that come through our academy
Melton, you knew what I meant!
I think we'd all agree that a £50 million Sterling is probably good enough to develop in your team without going out on loan.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
Last night it took 29 minutes for us to have our first attempt on goal. In every single PL match this season no team has taken as long to have an attempt on goal.
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Oh I didn't know that.
Sack Ed, sack Ole and close the club. We can't come back from that.
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Really Winston. ..call yourself a fan and you never knew that...
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
Last night it took 29 minutes for us to have our first attempt on goal. In every single PL match this season no team has taken as long to have an attempt on goal.
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Oh I didn't know that.
Sack Ed, sack Ole and close the club. We can't come back from that.
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Really Winston. ..call yourself a fan and you never knew that...
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comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Yeah, but you genuinely think the likes of Pep and Klopp would struggle just as badly under Ed. Which isn’t true. Even a misfiring Jose took us to 2nd and as many points that won a title 2 seasons before.
With a better manager than Jose we could very well succeed in spite of Ed - right now we’re handicapping ourselves with a manager clearly out of his depth and the fans are enabling Ed without even realising it by supporting such a poor appointment
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I didn’t say that Pep or Klopp would struggle “just as badly” as Mourinho or Ole, Robb.
I said that any manager would struggle. And I absolutely stand by that.
I don’t believe there is any success in spite of Ed. There are relative successes and failures, but if you make the wrong appointments at the wrong times and chop and change every couple of seasons whilst signing the wrong players, tying up your wage bill with ridiculous offers and facking contract renewals up, you won’t be winning the PL or CL, never mind build sustained success.
If Pep had replaced Jose, for argument’s sake, how long do you think he’d have needed to sort out the squad he’d inherited and get in enough players who can play the kind of way he requires?
Can you imagine any of DDG, Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Young, Shaw, Matic, McT, Lingard, Sanchez, Lukaku, Rashford or Martial playing Pep-ball?
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I think within one season he would have the players inspired by what he espouses and while not getting 100 points a season anytime soon would be having a clear philosophy and not making the boneheaded decisions than Ole is making.
Ed is a handicap - no doubt about that. But Ole’s continued tactical naivety is also destructive too. The sooner people realise that the sooner we can work to find a capable replacement. Just because Ole isn’t the main problem doesn’t mean he’s the solution either.
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I’ve got pancreatic cancer slowly starting to spread across my other internal organs as my body slowly withers; and I’ve also got mild cardiac arrhythmia.
Can’t wait to get this pacemaker fitted, that’ll sort everything out
You can’t just argue that “money was spent”. Of course it was; but if the missus’s car needs a new carburettor and I just put new tyres on it, that’s not really any good to her is it?
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She want know the difference, so may be theUtd powers hoped that a rookie manager wouldnt notice if they sold a forward and replaced him with a little boy
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comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Yeah, but you genuinely think the likes of Pep and Klopp would struggle just as badly under Ed. Which isn’t true. Even a misfiring Jose took us to 2nd and as many points that won a title 2 seasons before.
With a better manager than Jose we could very well succeed in spite of Ed - right now we’re handicapping ourselves with a manager clearly out of his depth and the fans are enabling Ed without even realising it by supporting such a poor appointment
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I didn’t say that Pep or Klopp would struggle “just as badly” as Mourinho or Ole, Robb.
I said that any manager would struggle. And I absolutely stand by that.
I don’t believe there is any success in spite of Ed. There are relative successes and failures, but if you make the wrong appointments at the wrong times and chop and change every couple of seasons whilst signing the wrong players, tying up your wage bill with ridiculous offers and facking contract renewals up, you won’t be winning the PL or CL, never mind build sustained success.
If Pep had replaced Jose, for argument’s sake, how long do you think he’d have needed to sort out the squad he’d inherited and get in enough players who can play the kind of way he requires?
Can you imagine any of DDG, Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Young, Shaw, Matic, McT, Lingard, Sanchez, Lukaku, Rashford or Martial playing Pep-ball?
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I think within one season he would have the players inspired by what he espouses and while not getting 100 points a season anytime soon would be having a clear philosophy and not making the boneheaded decisions than Ole is making.
Ed is a handicap - no doubt about that. But Ole’s continued tactical naivety is also destructive too. The sooner people realise that the sooner we can work to find a capable replacement. Just because Ole isn’t the main problem doesn’t mean he’s the solution either.
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I’ve got pancreatic cancer slowly starting to spread across my other internal organs as my body slowly withers; and I’ve also got mild cardiac arrhythmia.
Can’t wait to get this pacemaker fitted, that’ll sort everything out
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Would you want the best cancer doctors in the world helping you out? Or would you be satisfied with this young, unproven guy from Norway?
He says he has all this up and coming state of the art equipment but when you turn up for chemo he wheels out dusty old machines from soviet era Russia.
I think I'm right in saying that Chelsea struggled early in 2016/17 and were lower down in the table for the first 5-10 games.
They won it.
Different circumstances of course, but anyone who thinks you can judge a season after seven games is a moron.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 41 seconds ago
I think I'm right in saying that Chelsea struggled early in 2016/17 and were lower down in the table for the first 5-10 games.
They won it.
Different circumstances of course, but anyone who thinks you can judge a season after seven games is a moron.
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Yep...Conte swapped to a back 3 with wingbacks and we never looked back...had no Europe to worry about that term mind...which helped
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think I'm right in saying that Chelsea struggled early in 2016/17 and were lower down in the table for the first 5-10 games.
They won it.
Different circumstances of course, but anyone who thinks you can judge a season after seven games is a moron.
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You can judge what you’re seeing on the pitch
And from the disaster that the end of last season was, it seems we haven’t improved at all
5 wins in our last 20 league games
No signs of any improvement any time soon. If anything with the fixture list we have in the next 30 days it could get very ugly, very fast
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Last night it took 29 minutes for us to have our first attempt on goal. In every single PL match this season no team has taken as long to have an attempt on goal.
posted on 1/10/19
comment by hippopotamus (U1301)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
hippopotamus (U1301)
Because it's impossible to know without giving him a go.
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loan him out and if he turns out to be one of the best players in the league he can start for us.
that is how real serious teams do it. Case in point: bayern hardly ever bring through a youngster because the chances are he won't be the one of the best players in the country. Serge Gnabry was bought and proved himself on loan to be one of the best offensive players in Germany. He was therefore allowed to play in the Bayern first team.
They don't trial players in their own first team.
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It's one option, but not all teams do that.
I agree that his route into the team should be more gradual and like Rashford, the lack of experience in the squad is leading him to have too vital a role for a youngster, but I don't agree that he shouldn't be integrated into the team.
posted on 1/10/19
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
Last night it took 29 minutes for us to have our first attempt on goal. In every single PL match this season no team has taken as long to have an attempt on goal.
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Oh I didn't know that.
Sack Ed, sack Ole and close the club. We can't come back from that.
posted on 1/10/19
Everyone should be surprised at how bad we are
posted on 1/10/19
Its surprising that there are people who are not surprised at how mediocre we have become
posted on 1/10/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
Last night it took 29 minutes for us to have our first attempt on goal. In every single PL match this season no team has taken as long to have an attempt on goal.
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Oh I didn't know that.
Sack Ed, sack Ole and close the club. We can't come back from that.
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It’s just a sign of the malaise at the club. There will be a tipping point and probably quite soon. And if Ole is sacked I don’t think he could turn around and feel he was doing a good enough job in the time he did have
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comment by hippopotamus (U1301)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by hippopotamus (U1301)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
hippopotamus (U1301)
Because it's impossible to know without giving him a go.
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loan him out and if he turns out to be one of the best players in the league he can start for us.
that is how real serious teams do it. Case in point: bayern hardly ever bring through a youngster because the chances are he won't be the one of the best players in the country. Serge Gnabry was bought and proved himself on loan to be one of the best offensive players in Germany. He was therefore allowed to play in the Bayern first team.
They don't trial players in their own first team.
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It's one option, but not all teams do that.
I agree that his route into the team should be more gradual and like Rashford, the lack of experience in the squad is leading him to have too vital a role for a youngster, but I don't agree that he shouldn't be integrated into the team.
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the teams who want to win championships do.
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Fairly sure Liverpool don't.
Spurs don't always do it.
City don't use youngsters!
posted on 1/10/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Poor managers with their hands tied behind their backs. Fack up.
They have all spent huge sums of money just mostly on the wrong players with different styles etc. The lack of cohesion at the club got you here.
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Four different managers with completely different approaches and completely different ideas about what the squad profile should look like.
We’ve got a Frankenstein squad, and that isn’t the manager’s fault, nor was it Mourinho’s or LVG’s.
posted on 1/10/19
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Poor managers with their hands tied behind their backs. Fack up.
They have all spent huge sums of money just mostly on the wrong players with different styles etc. The lack of cohesion at the club got you here.
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Four different managers with completely different approaches and completely different ideas about what the squad profile should look like.
We’ve got a Frankenstein squad, and that isn’t the manager’s fault, nor was it Mourinho’s or LVG’s.
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Yes agreed but your original point about those managers having their hands tied is nonsense.
It's just been spent horrendously and as you say on a mishmash of styles that doesn't give you the players for a cohesive team.
posted on 1/10/19
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Yeah, but you genuinely think the likes of Pep and Klopp would struggle just as badly under Ed. Which isn’t true. Even a misfiring Jose took us to 2nd and as many points that won a title 2 seasons before.
With a better manager than Jose we could very well succeed in spite of Ed - right now we’re handicapping ourselves with a manager clearly out of his depth and the fans are enabling Ed without even realising it by supporting such a poor appointment
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I didn’t say that Pep or Klopp would struggle “just as badly” as Mourinho or Ole, Robb.
I said that any manager would struggle. And I absolutely stand by that.
I don’t believe there is any success in spite of Ed. There are relative successes and failures, but if you make the wrong appointments at the wrong times and chop and change every couple of seasons whilst signing the wrong players, tying up your wage bill with ridiculous offers and facking contract renewals up, you won’t be winning the PL or CL, never mind build sustained success.
If Pep had replaced Jose, for argument’s sake, how long do you think he’d have needed to sort out the squad he’d inherited and get in enough players who can play the kind of way he requires?
Can you imagine any of DDG, Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Young, Shaw, Matic, McT, Lingard, Sanchez, Lukaku, Rashford or Martial playing Pep-ball?
posted on 1/10/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 44 minutes ago
Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
How many games have you seen Chelsea play, rather than watching MOTD?
I'm not saying you're wrong, but they have issues like we do and given the state of affairs in the table, particularly as it's only 7 games in, I really don't see how you can make any conclusions about the two clubs.
I would say though, that I think the fact they have Kante is a major boost. Stick him in our team and it'd be a lot better.
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Kante has barely played. We will be MUCH better once he is fully fit.
posted on 1/10/19
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Yeah, but you genuinely think the likes of Pep and Klopp would struggle just as badly under Ed. Which isn’t true. Even a misfiring Jose took us to 2nd and as many points that won a title 2 seasons before.
With a better manager than Jose we could very well succeed in spite of Ed - right now we’re handicapping ourselves with a manager clearly out of his depth and the fans are enabling Ed without even realising it by supporting such a poor appointment
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I didn’t say that Pep or Klopp would struggle “just as badly” as Mourinho or Ole, Robb.
I said that any manager would struggle. And I absolutely stand by that.
I don’t believe there is any success in spite of Ed. There are relative successes and failures, but if you make the wrong appointments at the wrong times and chop and change every couple of seasons whilst signing the wrong players, tying up your wage bill with ridiculous offers and facking contract renewals up, you won’t be winning the PL or CL, never mind build sustained success.
If Pep had replaced Jose, for argument’s sake, how long do you think he’d have needed to sort out the squad he’d inherited and get in enough players who can play the kind of way he requires?
Can you imagine any of DDG, Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Young, Shaw, Matic, McT, Lingard, Sanchez, Lukaku, Rashford or Martial playing Pep-ball?
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I think within one season he would have the players inspired by what he espouses and while not getting 100 points a season anytime soon would be having a clear philosophy and not making the boneheaded decisions than Ole is making.
Ed is a handicap - no doubt about that. But Ole’s continued tactical naivety is also destructive too. The sooner people realise that the sooner we can work to find a capable replacement. Just because Ole isn’t the main problem doesn’t mean he’s the solution either.
posted on 1/10/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Poor managers with their hands tied behind their backs. Fack up.
They have all spent huge sums of money just mostly on the wrong players with different styles etc. The lack of cohesion at the club got you here.
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Four different managers with completely different approaches and completely different ideas about what the squad profile should look like.
We’ve got a Frankenstein squad, and that isn’t the manager’s fault, nor was it Mourinho’s or LVG’s.
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Yes agreed but your original point about those managers having their hands tied is nonsense.
It's just been spent horrendously and as you say on a mishmash of styles that doesn't give you the players for a cohesive team.
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You are aware that managers don’t have executive authority over transfers at United, no?
You are aware that managers need more than just cash spent on transfers?
Each one had a completely different vision for the squad (because Ed doesn’t understand that different coaches have different requirements) and has needed time to reshape it. No manager has been given the opportunity to do that yet, and each new manager has started with a squad that doesn’t suit his approach before being denied targets or the opportunity to manage the existing squad.
I disagreed with him completely, but Mourinho wanted rid of Martial. He wasn’t allowed to do that. He wanted another centreback last summer. He wasn’t allowed that.
You can’t just argue that “money was spent”. Of course it was; but if the missus’s car needs a new carburettor and I just put new tyres on it, that’s not really any good to her is it?
posted on 1/10/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by hippopotamus (U1301)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by hippopotamus (U1301)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 15 seconds ago
hippopotamus (U1301)
Because it's impossible to know without giving him a go.
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loan him out and if he turns out to be one of the best players in the league he can start for us.
that is how real serious teams do it. Case in point: bayern hardly ever bring through a youngster because the chances are he won't be the one of the best players in the country. Serge Gnabry was bought and proved himself on loan to be one of the best offensive players in Germany. He was therefore allowed to play in the Bayern first team.
They don't trial players in their own first team.
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It's one option, but not all teams do that.
I agree that his route into the team should be more gradual and like Rashford, the lack of experience in the squad is leading him to have too vital a role for a youngster, but I don't agree that he shouldn't be integrated into the team.
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the teams who want to win championships do.
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Fairly sure Liverpool don't.
Spurs don't always do it.
City don't use youngsters!
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We do, just not ones that come through our academy
posted on 1/10/19
Melton, you knew what I meant!
I think we'd all agree that a £50 million Sterling is probably good enough to develop in your team without going out on loan.
posted on 1/10/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
Last night it took 29 minutes for us to have our first attempt on goal. In every single PL match this season no team has taken as long to have an attempt on goal.
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Oh I didn't know that.
Sack Ed, sack Ole and close the club. We can't come back from that.
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Really Winston. ..call yourself a fan and you never knew that...
posted on 1/10/19
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
Last night it took 29 minutes for us to have our first attempt on goal. In every single PL match this season no team has taken as long to have an attempt on goal.
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Oh I didn't know that.
Sack Ed, sack Ole and close the club. We can't come back from that.
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Really Winston. ..call yourself a fan and you never knew that...
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posted on 1/10/19
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Yeah, but you genuinely think the likes of Pep and Klopp would struggle just as badly under Ed. Which isn’t true. Even a misfiring Jose took us to 2nd and as many points that won a title 2 seasons before.
With a better manager than Jose we could very well succeed in spite of Ed - right now we’re handicapping ourselves with a manager clearly out of his depth and the fans are enabling Ed without even realising it by supporting such a poor appointment
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I didn’t say that Pep or Klopp would struggle “just as badly” as Mourinho or Ole, Robb.
I said that any manager would struggle. And I absolutely stand by that.
I don’t believe there is any success in spite of Ed. There are relative successes and failures, but if you make the wrong appointments at the wrong times and chop and change every couple of seasons whilst signing the wrong players, tying up your wage bill with ridiculous offers and facking contract renewals up, you won’t be winning the PL or CL, never mind build sustained success.
If Pep had replaced Jose, for argument’s sake, how long do you think he’d have needed to sort out the squad he’d inherited and get in enough players who can play the kind of way he requires?
Can you imagine any of DDG, Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Young, Shaw, Matic, McT, Lingard, Sanchez, Lukaku, Rashford or Martial playing Pep-ball?
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I think within one season he would have the players inspired by what he espouses and while not getting 100 points a season anytime soon would be having a clear philosophy and not making the boneheaded decisions than Ole is making.
Ed is a handicap - no doubt about that. But Ole’s continued tactical naivety is also destructive too. The sooner people realise that the sooner we can work to find a capable replacement. Just because Ole isn’t the main problem doesn’t mean he’s the solution either.
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I’ve got pancreatic cancer slowly starting to spread across my other internal organs as my body slowly withers; and I’ve also got mild cardiac arrhythmia.
Can’t wait to get this pacemaker fitted, that’ll sort everything out
posted on 1/10/19
You can’t just argue that “money was spent”. Of course it was; but if the missus’s car needs a new carburettor and I just put new tyres on it, that’s not really any good to her is it?
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She want know the difference, so may be theUtd powers hoped that a rookie manager wouldnt notice if they sold a forward and replaced him with a little boy
posted on 1/10/19
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
People have said before, “I can’t wait for this season to end,” whilst we’ve been under the management of LVG, Mourinho and now Ole.
Why do they think the next season is going to be any different with Woodward at the helm?
People need to get the fack off the managers’ backs and see that they’re trying to operate with their hands tied.
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Yeah, but you genuinely think the likes of Pep and Klopp would struggle just as badly under Ed. Which isn’t true. Even a misfiring Jose took us to 2nd and as many points that won a title 2 seasons before.
With a better manager than Jose we could very well succeed in spite of Ed - right now we’re handicapping ourselves with a manager clearly out of his depth and the fans are enabling Ed without even realising it by supporting such a poor appointment
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I didn’t say that Pep or Klopp would struggle “just as badly” as Mourinho or Ole, Robb.
I said that any manager would struggle. And I absolutely stand by that.
I don’t believe there is any success in spite of Ed. There are relative successes and failures, but if you make the wrong appointments at the wrong times and chop and change every couple of seasons whilst signing the wrong players, tying up your wage bill with ridiculous offers and facking contract renewals up, you won’t be winning the PL or CL, never mind build sustained success.
If Pep had replaced Jose, for argument’s sake, how long do you think he’d have needed to sort out the squad he’d inherited and get in enough players who can play the kind of way he requires?
Can you imagine any of DDG, Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Young, Shaw, Matic, McT, Lingard, Sanchez, Lukaku, Rashford or Martial playing Pep-ball?
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I think within one season he would have the players inspired by what he espouses and while not getting 100 points a season anytime soon would be having a clear philosophy and not making the boneheaded decisions than Ole is making.
Ed is a handicap - no doubt about that. But Ole’s continued tactical naivety is also destructive too. The sooner people realise that the sooner we can work to find a capable replacement. Just because Ole isn’t the main problem doesn’t mean he’s the solution either.
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I’ve got pancreatic cancer slowly starting to spread across my other internal organs as my body slowly withers; and I’ve also got mild cardiac arrhythmia.
Can’t wait to get this pacemaker fitted, that’ll sort everything out
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Would you want the best cancer doctors in the world helping you out? Or would you be satisfied with this young, unproven guy from Norway?
He says he has all this up and coming state of the art equipment but when you turn up for chemo he wheels out dusty old machines from soviet era Russia.
posted on 1/10/19
I think I'm right in saying that Chelsea struggled early in 2016/17 and were lower down in the table for the first 5-10 games.
They won it.
Different circumstances of course, but anyone who thinks you can judge a season after seven games is a moron.
posted on 1/10/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 41 seconds ago
I think I'm right in saying that Chelsea struggled early in 2016/17 and were lower down in the table for the first 5-10 games.
They won it.
Different circumstances of course, but anyone who thinks you can judge a season after seven games is a moron.
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Yep...Conte swapped to a back 3 with wingbacks and we never looked back...had no Europe to worry about that term mind...which helped
posted on 1/10/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think I'm right in saying that Chelsea struggled early in 2016/17 and were lower down in the table for the first 5-10 games.
They won it.
Different circumstances of course, but anyone who thinks you can judge a season after seven games is a moron.
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You can judge what you’re seeing on the pitch
And from the disaster that the end of last season was, it seems we haven’t improved at all
5 wins in our last 20 league games
No signs of any improvement any time soon. If anything with the fixture list we have in the next 30 days it could get very ugly, very fast
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