My biggest worry is what the feck does he say to the team at HT.
Our second half performances bar the chelsea game have been shambolic. His inability to change a game is awful.
Not sure recruiting midfielders and selling Lukaku and not replacing him was Solskjaers decisions, tbf.
I agree on the second half issue Manc Python. Tbh that's a problem, a fitness issue presumably that even precedes Ole's appointment but it is even starker under him. We are consistently worse in the second half than the first. Even yesterday that was the case, in spite of the goal coming in the first half
Didnt ole say he was going to address fitness levels? doesnt appear to have changed
Yeah all that extra running in preseason doesn't seem to have got our rabble any more capable of putting in a 90 minute performance. I do have some sympathy with the manager on that one. The players themselves have to accept their share of the blame in that regard
Playing an almost full strength side for 3 games in the space of 7 days was also a rookie mistake. By the 70th minute mark yesterday, the team was exhausted.
And what exactly are these players being coached, none of them have improved, no tactical discipline, just defensive boring football. Can’t score but don’t concede many either. Always lose by the odd goal
I think the job as a whole - where so many things need improving - it is just too much for Ole to undertake.
He's not a miracle worker. But at the same time he has his hands tied behind his back.
Regarding the summer transfer debacle, he may likely have wanted replacements for vital areas, but couldn't get the deals done due to a variety of reasons. Not all his fault, but i believe the strategy could have been better implemented as a whole.
The second half demise is a problem that has dated back prior to Ole arriving. But nothing remarkable has seemed to change for the better overall since his tenure here. The players seem to revert back to type when the game resumes. Frustrating as it is.
It's clear we need better players coming in. The next summer window is vital we get ideal replacements in. January windows are only a stop gap.
Just watching Leicester at Palace, forget about getting to City or Liverpool level were miles behind this lot.
Tactically Rodgers is streets ahead of Ole and built a great foundation for Klopp to take over if it wasn’t for slippy G he would be the one with all the accolades.
It is nothing to do with fitness levels. It is to do with the way we play.
We consistently pass the ball side ways instead of forwards and get pushed back while doing so.
This is because we have two full backs who are zero attacking theat and three midfield players who are not good enough.
Martial, Rashford and James were making some good runs off the ball but we kept passing back to the opposition.
Neither Fred or Pereira should be starting games for us.
This is one of the few times I agree with all of the posts. "Out of his depth" is something I keep hearing and I think that's the truth of it. Ole's intentions are noble and he's done some things well, but overall he's tentative on his tactics and subs, and doesn't have a "big picture" outlook yet. This isn't the best club to learn coaching basics at when you're the head coach, and I wonder how effective Ole's coaching staff really is? As much as I respect Mick and Mike, I wonder if they're contributing anything substantial to help Ole during a match -it doesn't seem so.
Rodgers: Now you see an example of how is it possible that a mgr takes over and transforms the team immediately rather than 5-6 years.
He’s miles better than Ole.
comment by ☼ Great_Red_Shark ☼ (U1711)
posted 1 minute ago
Rodgers: Now you see an example of how is it possible that a mgr takes over and transforms the team immediately rather than 5-6 years.
He’s miles better than Ole.
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Isn't that what ole did when he first came in and went on that run
comment by ☼ Great_Red_Shark ☼ (U1711)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rodgers: Now you see an example of how is it possible that a mgr takes over and transforms the team immediately rather than 5-6 years.
He’s miles better than Ole.
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He's got a lot more experience than Ole as well - it's not a fair comparison. What we need is a way to get Ole up to speed, as he's not going to be sacked any time soon. To be fair, Rodgers failed miserably at Liverpool, even though his coaching methods seemed like a fresh breath of air, after Kenny and Souness especially. Ole needs support and an assistant who can help him make decisions during matches, and he doesn't have one. I had thought Phelan was brought in for that very reason?
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comment by ☼ Great_Red_Shark ☼ (U1711)
posted 1 minute ago
Rodgers: Now you see an example of how is it possible that a mgr takes over and transforms the team immediately rather than 5-6 years.
He’s miles better than Ole.
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Isn't that what ole did when he first came in and went on that run
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No - Winning with Ole was not as convincing as Rodgers winning - LCFC looks miles more attacking, well balanced, yet more dangerous than United's in the early Ole's Managerial days. You could easily see they can score in any minute
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comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by ☼ Great_Red_Shark ☼ (U1711)
posted 1 minute ago
Rodgers: Now you see an example of how is it possible that a mgr takes over and transforms the team immediately rather than 5-6 years.
He’s miles better than Ole.
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Isn't that what ole did when he first came in and went on that run
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No - Winning with Ole was not as convincing as Rodgers winning - LCFC looks miles more attacking, well balanced, yet more dangerous than United's in the early Ole's Managerial days. You could easily see they can score in any minute
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Did he not immediately transform the team when he took over from Jose
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posted on 3/11/19
My biggest worry is what the feck does he say to the team at HT.
Our second half performances bar the chelsea game have been shambolic. His inability to change a game is awful.
posted on 3/11/19
Not sure recruiting midfielders and selling Lukaku and not replacing him was Solskjaers decisions, tbf.
posted on 3/11/19
I agree on the second half issue Manc Python. Tbh that's a problem, a fitness issue presumably that even precedes Ole's appointment but it is even starker under him. We are consistently worse in the second half than the first. Even yesterday that was the case, in spite of the goal coming in the first half
posted on 3/11/19
Didnt ole say he was going to address fitness levels? doesnt appear to have changed
posted on 3/11/19
Yeah all that extra running in preseason doesn't seem to have got our rabble any more capable of putting in a 90 minute performance. I do have some sympathy with the manager on that one. The players themselves have to accept their share of the blame in that regard
posted on 3/11/19
Playing an almost full strength side for 3 games in the space of 7 days was also a rookie mistake. By the 70th minute mark yesterday, the team was exhausted.
And what exactly are these players being coached, none of them have improved, no tactical discipline, just defensive boring football. Can’t score but don’t concede many either. Always lose by the odd goal
posted on 3/11/19
I think the job as a whole - where so many things need improving - it is just too much for Ole to undertake.
He's not a miracle worker. But at the same time he has his hands tied behind his back.
Regarding the summer transfer debacle, he may likely have wanted replacements for vital areas, but couldn't get the deals done due to a variety of reasons. Not all his fault, but i believe the strategy could have been better implemented as a whole.
The second half demise is a problem that has dated back prior to Ole arriving. But nothing remarkable has seemed to change for the better overall since his tenure here. The players seem to revert back to type when the game resumes. Frustrating as it is.
It's clear we need better players coming in. The next summer window is vital we get ideal replacements in. January windows are only a stop gap.
posted on 3/11/19
Just watching Leicester at Palace, forget about getting to City or Liverpool level were miles behind this lot.
Tactically Rodgers is streets ahead of Ole and built a great foundation for Klopp to take over if it wasn’t for slippy G he would be the one with all the accolades.
posted on 3/11/19
It is nothing to do with fitness levels. It is to do with the way we play.
We consistently pass the ball side ways instead of forwards and get pushed back while doing so.
This is because we have two full backs who are zero attacking theat and three midfield players who are not good enough.
Martial, Rashford and James were making some good runs off the ball but we kept passing back to the opposition.
Neither Fred or Pereira should be starting games for us.
posted on 3/11/19
This is one of the few times I agree with all of the posts. "Out of his depth" is something I keep hearing and I think that's the truth of it. Ole's intentions are noble and he's done some things well, but overall he's tentative on his tactics and subs, and doesn't have a "big picture" outlook yet. This isn't the best club to learn coaching basics at when you're the head coach, and I wonder how effective Ole's coaching staff really is? As much as I respect Mick and Mike, I wonder if they're contributing anything substantial to help Ole during a match -it doesn't seem so.
posted on 3/11/19
Rodgers: Now you see an example of how is it possible that a mgr takes over and transforms the team immediately rather than 5-6 years.
He’s miles better than Ole.
posted on 3/11/19
comment by ☼ Great_Red_Shark ☼ (U1711)
posted 1 minute ago
Rodgers: Now you see an example of how is it possible that a mgr takes over and transforms the team immediately rather than 5-6 years.
He’s miles better than Ole.
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Isn't that what ole did when he first came in and went on that run
posted on 3/11/19
comment by ☼ Great_Red_Shark ☼ (U1711)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rodgers: Now you see an example of how is it possible that a mgr takes over and transforms the team immediately rather than 5-6 years.
He’s miles better than Ole.
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He's got a lot more experience than Ole as well - it's not a fair comparison. What we need is a way to get Ole up to speed, as he's not going to be sacked any time soon. To be fair, Rodgers failed miserably at Liverpool, even though his coaching methods seemed like a fresh breath of air, after Kenny and Souness especially. Ole needs support and an assistant who can help him make decisions during matches, and he doesn't have one. I had thought Phelan was brought in for that very reason?
posted on 3/11/19
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by ☼ Great_Red_Shark ☼ (U1711)
posted 1 minute ago
Rodgers: Now you see an example of how is it possible that a mgr takes over and transforms the team immediately rather than 5-6 years.
He’s miles better than Ole.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't that what ole did when he first came in and went on that run
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No - Winning with Ole was not as convincing as Rodgers winning - LCFC looks miles more attacking, well balanced, yet more dangerous than United's in the early Ole's Managerial days. You could easily see they can score in any minute
posted on 3/11/19
comment by ☼ Great_Red_Shark ☼ (U1711)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by ☼ Great_Red_Shark ☼ (U1711)
posted 1 minute ago
Rodgers: Now you see an example of how is it possible that a mgr takes over and transforms the team immediately rather than 5-6 years.
He’s miles better than Ole.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Isn't that what ole did when he first came in and went on that run
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No - Winning with Ole was not as convincing as Rodgers winning - LCFC looks miles more attacking, well balanced, yet more dangerous than United's in the early Ole's Managerial days. You could easily see they can score in any minute
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did he not immediately transform the team when he took over from Jose
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