Wenger had a clear way of playing the game which was all about one touch passing and movement off the ball.
This playing style was the reason why Arsenal under Wenger smashed the bottom 10 league teams.
Wenger lost his philosophy. Our final seasons under Wenger weren't blessed with fluid, attractive football. No matter how bad it is getting under Emery, we need to stop pretending that the football was good in Wengers final years - we had much the same problems as we do now. Wenger started the decline and Emery has been unable to hault it.
Yes Wengers final season was dreadful but the bear minimum for Emery was to improve on this. However, the team is actually worse and we have dropped even further back than wengers final season.
Agree we've declined under Emery, no denying that. People need to stop pretending Wenger's final seasons weren't anything but a catastrophe though. We would have carried on declining under him too.
Neither are good enough to move the club forward.
Wenger is lightyears ahead of Emery, it's right that we moved on from him and we probably waited a few seasons too long to make the change
But to compare them as equals is an insult
In Wengers last season we were good home, awful away, however we hammered a lot of teams at home that season! I can remember beating Huddersfield and Burnley 5-0 at home, Everton 5-1, Bournemouth 3-0, Watford 3-0, West Ham 4-1, we also had some entertaining games like the 4-3 win over Leicester, the 3-3 draw with Liverpool and 2-2 draw with Chelsea plus a few comfortable 2-0 wins,
Last season under Unai I can only really think of a few good home league performances Bournemouth where we won 5-1 being the prime example, majority of our home wins last season we gave opposition several chances, there were a few home wins where we were also fortunate i.e. West Ham, Everton, Watford, Man U.
This season in the league all our home wins so far have been narrow wins again, crazy that after 11 league games we have a goal difference of just +1 and have not beaten anyone by a 2 goal margin! twice we had 2 goal leads and surrendered them!
comment by RonAlvinho - Victoria Concordia Pathetic (U6117)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
Wenger lost his philosophy. Our final seasons under Wenger weren't blessed with fluid, attractive football. No matter how bad it is getting under Emery, we need to stop pretending that the football was good in Wengers final years - we had much the same problems as we do now. Wenger started the decline and Emery has been unable to hault it.
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Wengers final season we had the 2nd best home record in the league behind City. In Wengers worst season we were still battering poor teams like Palace and fecking Wolves not bottling it and producing dross like now. Whoever thinks our football now is better than Wengers last season is utterly deluded
Our current Arsenal squad is asking a new management which will give the whole team a boast. Ljungberg was made an assistant manager and I am sure he has some ideas I think we should give him until the end of the season. I think the Leicester game will decide whether Emery has the backing of the players. If they lose handsomely that's the end of his management at Arsenal football club or if the players buy him time by beating Leicester, then he keeps his job for at least the next three/four games depends on the results again.
comment by Gunners_49 - Cazorla - The Ball Master (U7239)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
Our current Arsenal squad is asking a new management which will give the whole team a boast. Ljungberg was made an assistant manager and I am sure he has some ideas I think we should give him until the end of the season. I think the Leicester game will decide whether Emery has the backing of the players. If they lose handsomely that's the end of his management at Arsenal football club or if the players buy him time by beating Leicester, then he keeps his job for at least the next three/four games depends on the results again.
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Conundrum right?! Do the players give there all and we fans enjoy a win and maybe stumble on to a run of results? Or do they allow us to get thumped and Emery is out?
I hate losing but if a loss vs Leicester meant a change in head coach, I'll make the lasagna myself!!
The football in Wenger's last few seasons was poor though, results often flattered us.
There were moments of magic (brilliant compared to Emery's awfyl football) but they were not at all the norm.
Wenger stopped playing fluid one touch football when Cesc left. After then it was turgid football with the odd exceptional game when Cazorla moved to CM.
Emery is just clueless. He is scared of the dressing room and let them dictate what to do instead of leading them.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 31 minutes ago
Wenger stopped playing fluid one touch football when Cesc left. After then it was turgid football with the odd exceptional game when Cazorla moved to CM.
Emery is just clueless. He is scared of the dressing room and let them dictate what to do instead of leading them.
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Well summed up. You can spot the clueless pundits when they repeat the myth that we play good football but without a cutting edge.
That hasn't been the case for the better part of a decade
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posted on 3/11/19
Wenger had a clear way of playing the game which was all about one touch passing and movement off the ball.
This playing style was the reason why Arsenal under Wenger smashed the bottom 10 league teams.
posted on 3/11/19
Wenger lost his philosophy. Our final seasons under Wenger weren't blessed with fluid, attractive football. No matter how bad it is getting under Emery, we need to stop pretending that the football was good in Wengers final years - we had much the same problems as we do now. Wenger started the decline and Emery has been unable to hault it.
posted on 3/11/19
Yes Wengers final season was dreadful but the bear minimum for Emery was to improve on this. However, the team is actually worse and we have dropped even further back than wengers final season.
posted on 3/11/19
Agree we've declined under Emery, no denying that. People need to stop pretending Wenger's final seasons weren't anything but a catastrophe though. We would have carried on declining under him too.
Neither are good enough to move the club forward.
posted on 3/11/19
Wenger is lightyears ahead of Emery, it's right that we moved on from him and we probably waited a few seasons too long to make the change
But to compare them as equals is an insult
posted on 3/11/19
In Wengers last season we were good home, awful away, however we hammered a lot of teams at home that season! I can remember beating Huddersfield and Burnley 5-0 at home, Everton 5-1, Bournemouth 3-0, Watford 3-0, West Ham 4-1, we also had some entertaining games like the 4-3 win over Leicester, the 3-3 draw with Liverpool and 2-2 draw with Chelsea plus a few comfortable 2-0 wins,
Last season under Unai I can only really think of a few good home league performances Bournemouth where we won 5-1 being the prime example, majority of our home wins last season we gave opposition several chances, there were a few home wins where we were also fortunate i.e. West Ham, Everton, Watford, Man U.
This season in the league all our home wins so far have been narrow wins again, crazy that after 11 league games we have a goal difference of just +1 and have not beaten anyone by a 2 goal margin! twice we had 2 goal leads and surrendered them!
posted on 3/11/19
comment by RonAlvinho - Victoria Concordia Pathetic (U6117)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
Wenger lost his philosophy. Our final seasons under Wenger weren't blessed with fluid, attractive football. No matter how bad it is getting under Emery, we need to stop pretending that the football was good in Wengers final years - we had much the same problems as we do now. Wenger started the decline and Emery has been unable to hault it.
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Wengers final season we had the 2nd best home record in the league behind City. In Wengers worst season we were still battering poor teams like Palace and fecking Wolves not bottling it and producing dross like now. Whoever thinks our football now is better than Wengers last season is utterly deluded
posted on 4/11/19
Our current Arsenal squad is asking a new management which will give the whole team a boast. Ljungberg was made an assistant manager and I am sure he has some ideas I think we should give him until the end of the season. I think the Leicester game will decide whether Emery has the backing of the players. If they lose handsomely that's the end of his management at Arsenal football club or if the players buy him time by beating Leicester, then he keeps his job for at least the next three/four games depends on the results again.
posted on 4/11/19
comment by Gunners_49 - Cazorla - The Ball Master (U7239)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
Our current Arsenal squad is asking a new management which will give the whole team a boast. Ljungberg was made an assistant manager and I am sure he has some ideas I think we should give him until the end of the season. I think the Leicester game will decide whether Emery has the backing of the players. If they lose handsomely that's the end of his management at Arsenal football club or if the players buy him time by beating Leicester, then he keeps his job for at least the next three/four games depends on the results again.
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Conundrum right?! Do the players give there all and we fans enjoy a win and maybe stumble on to a run of results? Or do they allow us to get thumped and Emery is out?
I hate losing but if a loss vs Leicester meant a change in head coach, I'll make the lasagna myself!!
posted on 4/11/19
The football in Wenger's last few seasons was poor though, results often flattered us.
There were moments of magic (brilliant compared to Emery's awfyl football) but they were not at all the norm.
posted on 4/11/19
Wenger stopped playing fluid one touch football when Cesc left. After then it was turgid football with the odd exceptional game when Cazorla moved to CM.
Emery is just clueless. He is scared of the dressing room and let them dictate what to do instead of leading them.
posted on 4/11/19
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 31 minutes ago
Wenger stopped playing fluid one touch football when Cesc left. After then it was turgid football with the odd exceptional game when Cazorla moved to CM.
Emery is just clueless. He is scared of the dressing room and let them dictate what to do instead of leading them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well summed up. You can spot the clueless pundits when they repeat the myth that we play good football but without a cutting edge.
That hasn't been the case for the better part of a decade
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