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Arsenal trying to avoid United’s mistakes.

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posted on 12/11/19

Am sure they will give him at least the next four league games, a chance to build up some points.

posted on 12/11/19

During United's mistakes they did at one point manage to finish 2nd and win a few trophies. I wouldn't mind a cock-up like that at the moment.

And no that is not an endorsement of Mourinho. Just change.

posted on 12/11/19

This is a tricky one

The don’t want to go down the route of sacking managers but at the same time don’t want to make the mistake of not sacking managers early enough

posted on 12/11/19

No surprise that once again our boardroom are blind to the reality that every Arsenal fan can see so clearly. It couldn't be more obvious that Emery must go as soon as possible if things are to improve, this is nothing short of neglectful board-level management of the club once more.

posted on 12/11/19

Mourinho actually got good league results out of our squad that season, to be fair. It was only the delusional among the fanbase that expected us to be competing with City that wouldn’t admit that. The performances, however, and the squad that had been built were the far bigger issues. This culminated in last season. And we sacked Mourinho far later than we should have. It was the same with Moyes and Van Gaal, both should have been gone at Xmas while the seasons were still salvageable - you could even argue it’s the case this season as well.

This is the mistake Arsenal have made. Their season is still salvageable, to an extent, but they’ve drifted further and further away in the league due to the manaement issues.

posted on 12/11/19

Man Utd spent what £500m in Mourinho's reign? To finish second?

posted on 12/11/19

Not quite that much but it was a poor return on investment. Is there a point to that comment?

posted on 12/11/19

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 minutes ago
Man Utd spent what £500m in Mourinho's reign? To finish second?
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you can also throw in a league cup and europa league too... and tbf.. lets not pretend the likes of Liverpool, chelsea and city didnt also spend big during that time period

posted on 12/11/19

I'm not sure the decisions are being made in response to United, tbh.
We have a break clause that let's us terminate Emerys contract in the summer.
We are most likely sounding out replacements and seeing how the water lies.
With the Xhaka issues we are probably looking for some stability.

posted on 12/11/19

Obviously it’s difficult to say, DJ. But it’s been claimed that you’re trying to avoid the managerial issues that have had a big impact on our disjointed squad. But I don’t think it’s something you should be as worried about given the way your club is structured.

I do get the position that Arsenal are taking, but like I said I think they’re making the mistakes we did with waiting too long to sack the manager.

It’s a difficult market for managers but having an interim shouldn’t be the big worry that many seem to think it is. It’s worked for Chelsea for years.

posted on 12/11/19

comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 minutes ago
Man Utd spent what £500m in Mourinho's reign? To finish second?
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you can also throw in a league cup and europa league too... and tbf.. lets not pretend the likes of Liverpool, chelsea and city didnt also spend big during that time period
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Let's not forget that glorious treble winning season

posted on 12/11/19

comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 minutes ago
Man Utd spent what £500m in Mourinho's reign? To finish second?
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you can also throw in a league cup and europa league too... and tbf.. lets not pretend the likes of Liverpool, chelsea and city didnt also spend big during that time period
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Let's not forget that glorious treble winning season
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you can knock it, but other than city we won more than anyone else

posted on 12/11/19

You can use Man Utd and Chelsea as examples. Both changing managers, one team getting advantage of it, other not getting advantage. So it's a two way street .

posted on 12/11/19

Emery's management is causing damage, the longer we keep hold of him the more damage is caused.

posted on 12/11/19

I am not sure Emery's management is causing any damage. I would like to know what that is tbh. Its true that Emery isn't organising the team properly and defenders dropping deep whilst also playing at a slow tempo means we are not performing on the pitch as we should.

posted on 12/11/19

comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 minutes ago
Man Utd spent what £500m in Mourinho's reign? To finish second?
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you can also throw in a league cup and europa league too... and tbf.. lets not pretend the likes of Liverpool, chelsea and city didnt also spend big during that time period
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Let's not forget that glorious treble winning season
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you can knock it, but other than city we won more than anyone else
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I'm not, was very happy winning the Europa.

posted on 12/11/19

Well the Arsenal team seem bereft of confidence with a fractured dressing room, by all accounts. That’s pretty damaging right there.

posted on 12/11/19

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 9 minutes ago
I am not sure Emery's management is causing any damage. I would like to know what that is tbh. Its true that Emery isn't organising the team properly and defenders dropping deep whilst also playing at a slow tempo means we are not performing on the pitch as we should.
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So our results (2 wins in the last 9 league games) are under Emery's management isn't causing damage...?

posted on 12/11/19

I blame Emery for appointing Xhaka because I always felt he wasn't good enough to be starting. There were small signs of his weak mentality but I don't think even Emery could forecast his implosion. Xhaka was a bomb waiting to go off under any management. Now that it has I will be glad if he leaves and isn't left as an issue for whoever eventually takes over. I think fans from others teams don't realise that the structure of the entire club has also changed since Wenger left. Its not just Emery. And there have been plenty of landmines left from the previous regime. In a way we needed an Emery to start the cleansing before the next manager can rebuild.

posted on 12/11/19

comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 9 minutes ago
I am not sure Emery's management is causing any damage. I would like to know what that is tbh. Its true that Emery isn't organising the team properly and defenders dropping deep whilst also playing at a slow tempo means we are not performing on the pitch as we should.
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So our results (2 wins in the last 9 league games) are under Emery's management isn't causing damage...?
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Read my comment again. I am saying we are under performing on the pitch and any new coach will have to fix that. But its not a situation that can't be repaired.

If you are suggesting that it maybe too late to achieve our target of CL qualification for next season. I point out that its November. Lets not over react.

posted on 12/11/19

GOOD EBENING

posted on 12/11/19

Emery doesn't set us up right to win, end of. I don't know how people could be defending him. Of course a new manager will change this, we have better players than watford or Wolves yet we let them look like Barcelona at home

posted on 12/11/19

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)

posted 31 minutes ago

I am not sure Emery's management is causing any damage. I would like to know what that is tbh. Its true that Emery isn't organising the team properly and defenders dropping deep whilst also playing at a slow tempo means we are not performing on the pitch as we should.
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Do you know what's his role is? Coach. And what is coach responsible for?
No idea what our style is, picking wrong players, bad substitutions, bad tactics, every game more shots faced than given, bad team chemistry, confused players etc. ALL EMERY. And you say you aren't sure he is causing damage. Find another sport to watch please.

posted on 12/11/19

The way Arsenal are playing right now they could be out of the Europa in a few weeks. Then it’s game over for the CL next season.

posted on 12/11/19

comment by 5-2 (U10698)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)

posted 31 minutes ago

I am not sure Emery's management is causing any damage. I would like to know what that is tbh. Its true that Emery isn't organising the team properly and defenders dropping deep whilst also playing at a slow tempo means we are not performing on the pitch as we should.
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Do you know what's his role is? Coach. And what is coach responsible for?
No idea what our style is, picking wrong players, bad substitutions, bad tactics, every game more shots faced than given, bad team chemistry, confused players etc. ALL EMERY. And you say you aren't sure he is causing damage. Find another sport to watch please.
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I am no Emery fan. I wanted him replaced months ago. But keep the hyperbole down please. Maybe because I have seen the likes of Rioch and remember Wenger in his final years unlike those who want to gloss over it, that I take the entire transition process in my stride.

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