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comment by Maul Person (U12977)
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comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 27 minutes ago
The players are cool with Xhaka, aren't they? Isn't that why Bellerin was supporting him? So what's this negative influence you're referring to? And what pressure has increased because of him? Obviously this doesn't mean ALL players are in his corner with suggestions that Auba is in favour of him going but it's not all players as you're suggesting...
Truth is, you and I are both throwing out ifs, buts and maybes. Who's to say if Xhaka is damaging the dynamic, or whether it's Auba, Emery or someone else. What we DO know is Emery's management is resulting in terrible results and if we want CL football and to retain players like Laca and Auba, something has to change.
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Who blew up in front of 60k fans?
Clue: It wasn't Aubameyang.
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Lol! That's your proof that he's disrupting in the dressing room. Note, the fans who he has an issue with are not in the dressing room. The players are... the players of which Bellerin is one who came out and supported him.
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So a man on the way out for being disrespectful to fans, refusing to play, has more support in the dressing room by his acolytes than Aubameyang, the golden boot winner. And you think thats not a problem for a young coach?
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You're clutching now. You said Xhaka is disruptive in the dressing room. Your proof is that he clashed with fans. Nothing about his team mates at all. So unless you have an example from within the dressing room (as I gave with Auba), I don't get your point.
What I said re: Auba is based on some of his team mates apparently being unhappy about him being in favour of him wanting Xhaka out and him cosying up to Troopz. Does it mean the team wants Auba out? Not necessarily. I'm just giving an example of friction from within the changing room unlike you.
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
I don't get your point.
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I am saying Xhaka's presence is disruptive in the dressing room after his 'performance' in front of the fans. Why? Because obviously the decision for him to move on has been taken and he has been stripped of the captaincy, and if you were to believe some of the reports coming out, against the wishes of some in the dressing room. While Xhaka is at the club he is sideshow, a distraction to what needs to be done. The team will find it hard to coalesce under Aubamenyang and Emery let alone a new young coach. Thats why I think we need an experienced man to take charge who will quiet any dissenting voices in the dressing room and focus their minds on what needs to be done. I hope that clear.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
I don't get your point.
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I am saying Xhaka's presence is disruptive in the dressing room after his 'performance' in front of the fans. Why? Because obviously the decision for him to move on has been taken and he has been stripped of the captaincy, and if you were to believe some of the reports coming out, against the wishes of some in the dressing room. While Xhaka is at the club he is sideshow, a distraction to what needs to be done. The team will find it hard to coalesce under Aubamenyang and Emery let alone a new young coach. Thats why I think we need an experienced man to take charge who will quiet any dissenting voices in the dressing room and focus their minds on what needs to be done. I hope that clear.
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All of what you've written says to me that the players are behind him but the board / management isn't. Especially you saying that the captaincy was taken away against his team mates' wishes. That's not quite a dressing room issue.
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 24 minutes ago
It’s not a direct comparison between the two. It’s more the case of Arsenal looking at the problems United have had since Fergie retired and trying to avoid repeating them.
Arsenal were in decline before Wenger left, yes, but it doesn’t change the fact he was a huge part of the fabric of the club. It’s a completely new regime now, so while there are differences I can understand United being brought up as we should be an example to all as to how not to run a football club.
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Agreed. But staying still or batoning down the hatches as these lot appear to be doing isn't really an option either under the circumstances.
Allegedly, Emery now has 6 games to get things in order. Good luck to him (but of course I don't mean that!).
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
I don't get your point.
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I am saying Xhaka's presence is disruptive in the dressing room after his 'performance' in front of the fans. Why? Because obviously the decision for him to move on has been taken and he has been stripped of the captaincy, and if you were to believe some of the reports coming out, against the wishes of some in the dressing room. While Xhaka is at the club he is sideshow, a distraction to what needs to be done. The team will find it hard to coalesce under Aubamenyang and Emery let alone a new young coach. Thats why I think we need an experienced man to take charge who will quiet any dissenting voices in the dressing room and focus their minds on what needs to be done. I hope that clear.
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All of what you've written says to me that the players are behind him but the board / management isn't. Especially you saying that the captaincy was taken away against his team mates' wishes. That's not quite a dressing room issue.
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Thats the explicit definition of a dressing room in strife. Do you think players ever called the shots under Fergie, Wenger, George Graham?
Maul, yep which is why I raised the point that you haven’t learnt from our dithering when it comes to sacking coaches.
People have slagged off Chelsea for years when it comes to sacking their coaches. But by and large, they’ve been justified, and they’ve ended up arresting the slide with those decisions.
The one time they didn’t was when they showed too much loyalty to Mourinho. And then they ended up finishing tenth.
If the signs are there that it cannot be recovered, and that’s been the case for a while now, time is the last thing the club should be giving to the manager.
Like United, the worry for Arsenal is what this indicates for the future when the managerial appointment isn’t the right one.
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posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
I don't get your point.
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I am saying Xhaka's presence is disruptive in the dressing room after his 'performance' in front of the fans. Why? Because obviously the decision for him to move on has been taken and he has been stripped of the captaincy, and if you were to believe some of the reports coming out, against the wishes of some in the dressing room. While Xhaka is at the club he is sideshow, a distraction to what needs to be done. The team will find it hard to coalesce under Aubamenyang and Emery let alone a new young coach. Thats why I think we need an experienced man to take charge who will quiet any dissenting voices in the dressing room and focus their minds on what needs to be done. I hope that clear.
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All of what you've written says to me that the players are behind him but the board / management isn't. Especially you saying that the captaincy was taken away against his team mates' wishes. That's not quite a dressing room issue.
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Thats the explicit definition of a dressing room in strife. Do you think players ever called the shots under Fergie, Wenger, George Graham?
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You think the players are calling any shots?!
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
If the signs are there that it cannot be recovered, and that’s been the case for a while now, time is the last thing the club should be giving to the manager.
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I’ve never really subscribed to it, Sideshow. The only ones I think were wrong were Mourinho first time and Ancelotti.
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I always wonder how things would have panned out at Chelsea had he stayed and done the rebuild. I think he’s the one man that could have actually have had a long term position at Chelsea.
I doubt things would have been as turbulent as it has been the last few years, however, you probably wouldn’t have reached the same highs. I doubt many Chelsea fans would trade that given the choice. That’s part of the fun, right?
Waiting until the window makes more sense than sacking him now. Given that we are still 6th. People are going on as though we're 16th. Wait until then (using time to get a replacement with a plan). If Emery hasn't turned it around by then, boot him and bring the new bloke in with a window to get/get rid of, whomever he needs too.
Much better and more stable than sack him now and rush replacement. I'm hoping dropping Xhaka pays big dividends. A few wins under the teams belt and everyone'll stop complaining.
Doubt it, the problems run deep and a few wins won’t deflect from that.
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 15 hours, 43 minutes ago
It’s not a direct comparison between the two. It’s more the case of Arsenal looking at the problems United have had since Fergie retired and trying to avoid repeating them.
Arsenal were in decline before Wenger left, yes, but it doesn’t change the fact he was a huge part of the fabric of the club. It’s a completely new regime now, so while there are differences I can understand United being brought up as we should be an example to all as to how not to run a football club.
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Our issues were two fold. We not only lost SAF but Gill as well. This led to a new manager and Ed. Ed was a complete novice. Arsenal's issue, while some superficial similarities, aren't the same.
On sacking the coach or not, it depends on how much belief they have in the manager. If he is the wrong guy, they need to act. But as we have seen, Watford have sacked managers much more quickly and they've been up and down for wise despite doing so.
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
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comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
I don't get your point.
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I am saying Xhaka's presence is disruptive in the dressing room after his 'performance' in front of the fans. Why? Because obviously the decision for him to move on has been taken and he has been stripped of the captaincy, and if you were to believe some of the reports coming out, against the wishes of some in the dressing room. While Xhaka is at the club he is sideshow, a distraction to what needs to be done. The team will find it hard to coalesce under Aubamenyang and Emery let alone a new young coach. Thats why I think we need an experienced man to take charge who will quiet any dissenting voices in the dressing room and focus their minds on what needs to be done. I hope that clear.
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All of what you've written says to me that the players are behind him but the board / management isn't. Especially you saying that the captaincy was taken away against his team mates' wishes. That's not quite a dressing room issue.
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Thats the explicit definition of a dressing room in strife. Do you think players ever called the shots under Fergie, Wenger, George Graham?
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You think the players are calling any shots?!
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They obviously were and now Emery et al are trying to regain some control. Who gave them the vote to appoint the captain?
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 10 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 14 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
I don't get your point.
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I am saying Xhaka's presence is disruptive in the dressing room after his 'performance' in front of the fans. Why? Because obviously the decision for him to move on has been taken and he has been stripped of the captaincy, and if you were to believe some of the reports coming out, against the wishes of some in the dressing room. While Xhaka is at the club he is sideshow, a distraction to what needs to be done. The team will find it hard to coalesce under Aubamenyang and Emery let alone a new young coach. Thats why I think we need an experienced man to take charge who will quiet any dissenting voices in the dressing room and focus their minds on what needs to be done. I hope that clear.
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All of what you've written says to me that the players are behind him but the board / management isn't. Especially you saying that the captaincy was taken away against his team mates' wishes. That's not quite a dressing room issue.
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Thats the explicit definition of a dressing room in strife. Do you think players ever called the shots under Fergie, Wenger, George Graham?
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You think the players are calling any shots?!
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They obviously were and now Emery et al are trying to regain some control. Who gave them the vote to appoint the captain?
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How? You still haven't explained how the players were calling the shots. The players when Mourinho left the second time were calling the shot.
And who gave them the vote? Emery. You said it yourself... GAVE. If they TOOK it, then I'd understand you're argument of player power. But the weak ass sumbitch GAVE it to them.
Twice.
Waiting until the window makes more sense than sacking him now
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Why? You want the new manager to have time with the squad before the window.
Arsenal's issue, while some superficial similarities, aren't the same.
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True, United just made like for like replacements whereas Arsenal were a lot more radical.
China, you don’t need to list me the differences between the situations as I’m well aware. But that doesn’t change the point about Arsenal trying to avoid the mistakes we’ve made after losing a longstanding manager.
The whole point of my article is to point out that, despite this attitude, Arsenal are actually making the same mistake we’ve been with a lack of ruthlessness and foresight when it comes to sacking a manager that is clearly wrong for them.
It’s arguably the most damaging problem at United. Because it so often leads to stagnation, or regression, among the squad and the season is just wasted.
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posted on 12/11/19
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 27 minutes ago
The players are cool with Xhaka, aren't they? Isn't that why Bellerin was supporting him? So what's this negative influence you're referring to? And what pressure has increased because of him? Obviously this doesn't mean ALL players are in his corner with suggestions that Auba is in favour of him going but it's not all players as you're suggesting...
Truth is, you and I are both throwing out ifs, buts and maybes. Who's to say if Xhaka is damaging the dynamic, or whether it's Auba, Emery or someone else. What we DO know is Emery's management is resulting in terrible results and if we want CL football and to retain players like Laca and Auba, something has to change.
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Who blew up in front of 60k fans?
Clue: It wasn't Aubameyang.
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Lol! That's your proof that he's disrupting in the dressing room. Note, the fans who he has an issue with are not in the dressing room. The players are... the players of which Bellerin is one who came out and supported him.
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So a man on the way out for being disrespectful to fans, refusing to play, has more support in the dressing room by his acolytes than Aubameyang, the golden boot winner. And you think thats not a problem for a young coach?
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You're clutching now. You said Xhaka is disruptive in the dressing room. Your proof is that he clashed with fans. Nothing about his team mates at all. So unless you have an example from within the dressing room (as I gave with Auba), I don't get your point.
What I said re: Auba is based on some of his team mates apparently being unhappy about him being in favour of him wanting Xhaka out and him cosying up to Troopz. Does it mean the team wants Auba out? Not necessarily. I'm just giving an example of friction from within the changing room unlike you.
posted on 12/11/19
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
I don't get your point.
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I am saying Xhaka's presence is disruptive in the dressing room after his 'performance' in front of the fans. Why? Because obviously the decision for him to move on has been taken and he has been stripped of the captaincy, and if you were to believe some of the reports coming out, against the wishes of some in the dressing room. While Xhaka is at the club he is sideshow, a distraction to what needs to be done. The team will find it hard to coalesce under Aubamenyang and Emery let alone a new young coach. Thats why I think we need an experienced man to take charge who will quiet any dissenting voices in the dressing room and focus their minds on what needs to be done. I hope that clear.
posted on 12/11/19
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
I don't get your point.
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I am saying Xhaka's presence is disruptive in the dressing room after his 'performance' in front of the fans. Why? Because obviously the decision for him to move on has been taken and he has been stripped of the captaincy, and if you were to believe some of the reports coming out, against the wishes of some in the dressing room. While Xhaka is at the club he is sideshow, a distraction to what needs to be done. The team will find it hard to coalesce under Aubamenyang and Emery let alone a new young coach. Thats why I think we need an experienced man to take charge who will quiet any dissenting voices in the dressing room and focus their minds on what needs to be done. I hope that clear.
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All of what you've written says to me that the players are behind him but the board / management isn't. Especially you saying that the captaincy was taken away against his team mates' wishes. That's not quite a dressing room issue.
posted on 12/11/19
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 24 minutes ago
It’s not a direct comparison between the two. It’s more the case of Arsenal looking at the problems United have had since Fergie retired and trying to avoid repeating them.
Arsenal were in decline before Wenger left, yes, but it doesn’t change the fact he was a huge part of the fabric of the club. It’s a completely new regime now, so while there are differences I can understand United being brought up as we should be an example to all as to how not to run a football club.
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Agreed. But staying still or batoning down the hatches as these lot appear to be doing isn't really an option either under the circumstances.
Allegedly, Emery now has 6 games to get things in order. Good luck to him (but of course I don't mean that!).
posted on 12/11/19
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
I don't get your point.
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I am saying Xhaka's presence is disruptive in the dressing room after his 'performance' in front of the fans. Why? Because obviously the decision for him to move on has been taken and he has been stripped of the captaincy, and if you were to believe some of the reports coming out, against the wishes of some in the dressing room. While Xhaka is at the club he is sideshow, a distraction to what needs to be done. The team will find it hard to coalesce under Aubamenyang and Emery let alone a new young coach. Thats why I think we need an experienced man to take charge who will quiet any dissenting voices in the dressing room and focus their minds on what needs to be done. I hope that clear.
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All of what you've written says to me that the players are behind him but the board / management isn't. Especially you saying that the captaincy was taken away against his team mates' wishes. That's not quite a dressing room issue.
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Thats the explicit definition of a dressing room in strife. Do you think players ever called the shots under Fergie, Wenger, George Graham?
posted on 12/11/19
Maul, yep which is why I raised the point that you haven’t learnt from our dithering when it comes to sacking coaches.
People have slagged off Chelsea for years when it comes to sacking their coaches. But by and large, they’ve been justified, and they’ve ended up arresting the slide with those decisions.
The one time they didn’t was when they showed too much loyalty to Mourinho. And then they ended up finishing tenth.
If the signs are there that it cannot be recovered, and that’s been the case for a while now, time is the last thing the club should be giving to the manager.
Like United, the worry for Arsenal is what this indicates for the future when the managerial appointment isn’t the right one.
posted on 12/11/19
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
I don't get your point.
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I am saying Xhaka's presence is disruptive in the dressing room after his 'performance' in front of the fans. Why? Because obviously the decision for him to move on has been taken and he has been stripped of the captaincy, and if you were to believe some of the reports coming out, against the wishes of some in the dressing room. While Xhaka is at the club he is sideshow, a distraction to what needs to be done. The team will find it hard to coalesce under Aubamenyang and Emery let alone a new young coach. Thats why I think we need an experienced man to take charge who will quiet any dissenting voices in the dressing room and focus their minds on what needs to be done. I hope that clear.
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All of what you've written says to me that the players are behind him but the board / management isn't. Especially you saying that the captaincy was taken away against his team mates' wishes. That's not quite a dressing room issue.
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Thats the explicit definition of a dressing room in strife. Do you think players ever called the shots under Fergie, Wenger, George Graham?
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You think the players are calling any shots?!
posted on 12/11/19
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
If the signs are there that it cannot be recovered, and that’s been the case for a while now, time is the last thing the club should be giving to the manager.
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This...
posted on 12/11/19
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posted on 12/11/19
I’ve never really subscribed to it, Sideshow. The only ones I think were wrong were Mourinho first time and Ancelotti.
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posted on 12/11/19
I always wonder how things would have panned out at Chelsea had he stayed and done the rebuild. I think he’s the one man that could have actually have had a long term position at Chelsea.
I doubt things would have been as turbulent as it has been the last few years, however, you probably wouldn’t have reached the same highs. I doubt many Chelsea fans would trade that given the choice. That’s part of the fun, right?
posted on 12/11/19
Waiting until the window makes more sense than sacking him now. Given that we are still 6th. People are going on as though we're 16th. Wait until then (using time to get a replacement with a plan). If Emery hasn't turned it around by then, boot him and bring the new bloke in with a window to get/get rid of, whomever he needs too.
Much better and more stable than sack him now and rush replacement. I'm hoping dropping Xhaka pays big dividends. A few wins under the teams belt and everyone'll stop complaining.
posted on 12/11/19
Doubt it, the problems run deep and a few wins won’t deflect from that.
posted on 13/11/19
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 15 hours, 43 minutes ago
It’s not a direct comparison between the two. It’s more the case of Arsenal looking at the problems United have had since Fergie retired and trying to avoid repeating them.
Arsenal were in decline before Wenger left, yes, but it doesn’t change the fact he was a huge part of the fabric of the club. It’s a completely new regime now, so while there are differences I can understand United being brought up as we should be an example to all as to how not to run a football club.
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Our issues were two fold. We not only lost SAF but Gill as well. This led to a new manager and Ed. Ed was a complete novice. Arsenal's issue, while some superficial similarities, aren't the same.
On sacking the coach or not, it depends on how much belief they have in the manager. If he is the wrong guy, they need to act. But as we have seen, Watford have sacked managers much more quickly and they've been up and down for wise despite doing so.
posted on 13/11/19
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 14 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
I don't get your point.
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I am saying Xhaka's presence is disruptive in the dressing room after his 'performance' in front of the fans. Why? Because obviously the decision for him to move on has been taken and he has been stripped of the captaincy, and if you were to believe some of the reports coming out, against the wishes of some in the dressing room. While Xhaka is at the club he is sideshow, a distraction to what needs to be done. The team will find it hard to coalesce under Aubamenyang and Emery let alone a new young coach. Thats why I think we need an experienced man to take charge who will quiet any dissenting voices in the dressing room and focus their minds on what needs to be done. I hope that clear.
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All of what you've written says to me that the players are behind him but the board / management isn't. Especially you saying that the captaincy was taken away against his team mates' wishes. That's not quite a dressing room issue.
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Thats the explicit definition of a dressing room in strife. Do you think players ever called the shots under Fergie, Wenger, George Graham?
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You think the players are calling any shots?!
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They obviously were and now Emery et al are trying to regain some control. Who gave them the vote to appoint the captain?
posted on 13/11/19
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 10 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 14 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 42 seconds ago
I don't get your point.
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I am saying Xhaka's presence is disruptive in the dressing room after his 'performance' in front of the fans. Why? Because obviously the decision for him to move on has been taken and he has been stripped of the captaincy, and if you were to believe some of the reports coming out, against the wishes of some in the dressing room. While Xhaka is at the club he is sideshow, a distraction to what needs to be done. The team will find it hard to coalesce under Aubamenyang and Emery let alone a new young coach. Thats why I think we need an experienced man to take charge who will quiet any dissenting voices in the dressing room and focus their minds on what needs to be done. I hope that clear.
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All of what you've written says to me that the players are behind him but the board / management isn't. Especially you saying that the captaincy was taken away against his team mates' wishes. That's not quite a dressing room issue.
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Thats the explicit definition of a dressing room in strife. Do you think players ever called the shots under Fergie, Wenger, George Graham?
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You think the players are calling any shots?!
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They obviously were and now Emery et al are trying to regain some control. Who gave them the vote to appoint the captain?
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How? You still haven't explained how the players were calling the shots. The players when Mourinho left the second time were calling the shot.
And who gave them the vote? Emery. You said it yourself... GAVE. If they TOOK it, then I'd understand you're argument of player power. But the weak ass sumbitch GAVE it to them.
Twice.
posted on 13/11/19
Waiting until the window makes more sense than sacking him now
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Why? You want the new manager to have time with the squad before the window.
Arsenal's issue, while some superficial similarities, aren't the same.
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True, United just made like for like replacements whereas Arsenal were a lot more radical.
posted on 13/11/19
China, you don’t need to list me the differences between the situations as I’m well aware. But that doesn’t change the point about Arsenal trying to avoid the mistakes we’ve made after losing a longstanding manager.
The whole point of my article is to point out that, despite this attitude, Arsenal are actually making the same mistake we’ve been with a lack of ruthlessness and foresight when it comes to sacking a manager that is clearly wrong for them.
It’s arguably the most damaging problem at United. Because it so often leads to stagnation, or regression, among the squad and the season is just wasted.
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