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Robbing the guy that said he's pretty hard for his height
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Dangerdog the guy who openly mocked Heysel and Hillsborough then cried until he got banned and had to make a new account.
True story.
Hoody is fuming today
Can someone tell him everything will be ok. Cleaners will still need to be recruited!!
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posted 34 seconds ago
Hoody is fuming today
Can someone tell him everything will be ok. Cleaners will still need to be recruited!!
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The p**sy has filtered me
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posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 34 seconds ago
Hoody is fuming today
Can someone tell him everything will be ok. Cleaners will still need to be recruited!!
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The p**sy has filtered me
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oh that's a bit gay...in a non homophobic way
Is the public stupid?
yes we are
Interesting to see all of the Corbyn criticism coming from Labour stalwarts.
Suppose that makes them a Tory voter according to some people on this thread.
Or maybe, just maybe, the blind defence of Corbyn was illogical?
Couldn't help but recall this thread in light of today's news...
Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has suspended Jeremy Corbyn from the party over his reaction to a highly critical report on anti-Semitism.
The human rights watchdog found Labour responsible for "unlawful" harassment and discrimination during Mr Corbyn's years in charge of the party.
Well, I for one am shocked that the Corbynites on here have suddenly lost their voice.
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well, I for one am shocked that the Corbynites on here have suddenly lost their voice.
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Haha.
Those who sang his name and followed him, almost cult like, now deny him....and say they wanted Starmer to lead etc.
Hypocrites.
Who helped put bojo in charge too.
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
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In what way please?
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 41 seconds ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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Millions of Labour voters Know what Corbyn and the far left who got him in place were about...the media and those in Labour opposed to him simply called Corbyn and Momentum out.
Of course there were people working against him, just as he had Momentum attacking any criticism.
His economic policies were rejected by business experts and voters.
His attitude to the EU was more eurosceptic than most leavers yet he claimed to become Remain.
His foreign policy ideas were largely anri- western Marxist gibberish.
He was close to Hamas and pira, and made no effort to work with Israel or America or unionists, yet he wanted to be a world leader.
I could go on.
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
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In what way please?
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Because whether there’s exaggeration by some parties or not, you can’t use that as an excuse not to criticise Corbyn and accept he’s in the wrong.
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
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In what way please?
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You blame others for Corbyns own failings.
It's the voters fault.
Most Labour mps opposed jezza, but new far left Momentum got him in by joining in 2015.
This created a disconnect between ordinary Labour people and a far left Corbynista sect.
Happy for you to have the views you've just stated although I don't fully agree with most. But if you actually think he is anti-semitic then I'd say you are definitely wrong. And the fact he's been suspended for what he said yesterday is an absurdity in my mind.
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 26 seconds ago
Happy for you to have the views you've just stated although I don't fully agree with most. But if you actually think he is anti-semitic then I'd say you are definitely wrong. And the fact he's been suspended for what he said yesterday is an absurdity in my mind.
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Ffs, I didn’t say that and nor did anyone else.
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posted 59 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
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In what way please?
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Because whether there’s exaggeration by some parties or not, you can’t use that as an excuse not to criticise Corbyn and accept he’s in the wrong.
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Spot on.
Now,,he cannot even admit to or apologize for how female Jewish Labour mps were treated by Labour, on his watch.
Shameful little arrogant fool.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
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In what way please?
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Because whether there’s exaggeration by some parties or not, you can’t use that as an excuse not to criticise Corbyn and accept he’s in the wrong.
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I haven't done that. I'll happily criticise his whole handling of the affair. But it sickens me when an issue like this gets used for political gain. The hypocrisy from some quarters was astounding.
My biggest issue with the whole thing though is the way Israeli criticism was conflated with anti semitism. I agreed with the party trying to draw the distinction and ensure freedom of speech on the issue but then that silly international definition of anti semitism made that impossible and everyone just had to stop mentioning Israel in any way go about being suspended.
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 1 minute ago
Happy for you to have the views you've just stated although I don't fully agree with most. But if you actually think he is anti-semitic then I'd say you are definitely wrong. And the fact he's been suspended for what he said yesterday is an absurdity in my mind.
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Labour became anti-Semitic from 2015 when Corbynista joined and took over.
Corbyn empowered them based on his support for Hamas and hatred of Israel, and so allowed criticism of Israel to also be anti-jewish...aimed at Jewish Labour.
EHRC found him and his Labour guilty.
Not the papers or right wing.
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
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In what way please?
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Because whether there’s exaggeration by some parties or not, you can’t use that as an excuse not to criticise Corbyn and accept he’s in the wrong.
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I haven't done that. I'll happily criticise his whole handling of the affair. But it sickens me when an issue like this gets used for political gain. The hypocrisy from some quarters was astounding.
My biggest issue with the whole thing though is the way Israeli criticism was conflated with anti semitism. I agreed with the party trying to draw the distinction and ensure freedom of speech on the issue but then that silly international definition of anti semitism made that impossible and everyone just had to stop mentioning Israel in any way go about being suspended.
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So even the independent EHRC findings are biased and wrong?
KingKenny, you say you’ll happily criticise him but above you didn’t.
Instead, you try to twist the debate into something else in order to avoid criticising him.
This thread sums it all up nicely.
I'd have to read the EHRC findings fully before I can comment there.
But at the time I really struggled to see incidents of actual anti Jewish criticism of Israel. Have you got examples as to be fair I may have missed them.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 seconds ago
KingKenny, you say you’ll happily criticise him but above you didn’t.
Instead, you try to twist the debate into something else in order to avoid criticising him.
This thread sums it all up nicely.
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No I was specifically just talking about why he's been suspended. He did a shocking job of managing the whole thing but I also failed to see much in the way of anti semitism from him or even any support for it. He just didn't go gung ho and tried to leave room for opinions which then got him labelled imo.
I think at heart he's a good person but was never suitable to leading a political party.
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posted on 13/12/19
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 6 minutes ago
Robbing the guy that said he's pretty hard for his height
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posted on 13/12/19
Dangerdog the guy who openly mocked Heysel and Hillsborough then cried until he got banned and had to make a new account.
True story.
posted on 13/12/19
Hoody is fuming today
Can someone tell him everything will be ok. Cleaners will still need to be recruited!!
posted on 13/12/19
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 34 seconds ago
Hoody is fuming today
Can someone tell him everything will be ok. Cleaners will still need to be recruited!!
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The p**sy has filtered me
posted on 13/12/19
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by dangerdog2 (U22234)
posted 34 seconds ago
Hoody is fuming today
Can someone tell him everything will be ok. Cleaners will still need to be recruited!!
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The p**sy has filtered me
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oh that's a bit gay...in a non homophobic way
posted on 13/12/19
Is the public stupid?
yes we are
posted on 19/12/19
Interesting to see all of the Corbyn criticism coming from Labour stalwarts.
Suppose that makes them a Tory voter according to some people on this thread.
Or maybe, just maybe, the blind defence of Corbyn was illogical?
posted on 29/10/20
Couldn't help but recall this thread in light of today's news...
Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has suspended Jeremy Corbyn from the party over his reaction to a highly critical report on anti-Semitism.
The human rights watchdog found Labour responsible for "unlawful" harassment and discrimination during Mr Corbyn's years in charge of the party.
posted on 1/11/20
Well, I for one am shocked that the Corbynites on here have suddenly lost their voice.
posted on 1/11/20
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
posted on 1/11/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well, I for one am shocked that the Corbynites on here have suddenly lost their voice.
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Haha.
Those who sang his name and followed him, almost cult like, now deny him....and say they wanted Starmer to lead etc.
Hypocrites.
Who helped put bojo in charge too.
posted on 1/11/20
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
posted on 1/11/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
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In what way please?
posted on 1/11/20
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 41 seconds ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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Millions of Labour voters Know what Corbyn and the far left who got him in place were about...the media and those in Labour opposed to him simply called Corbyn and Momentum out.
Of course there were people working against him, just as he had Momentum attacking any criticism.
His economic policies were rejected by business experts and voters.
His attitude to the EU was more eurosceptic than most leavers yet he claimed to become Remain.
His foreign policy ideas were largely anri- western Marxist gibberish.
He was close to Hamas and pira, and made no effort to work with Israel or America or unionists, yet he wanted to be a world leader.
I could go on.
posted on 1/11/20
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
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In what way please?
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Because whether there’s exaggeration by some parties or not, you can’t use that as an excuse not to criticise Corbyn and accept he’s in the wrong.
posted on 1/11/20
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
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In what way please?
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You blame others for Corbyns own failings.
It's the voters fault.
Most Labour mps opposed jezza, but new far left Momentum got him in by joining in 2015.
This created a disconnect between ordinary Labour people and a far left Corbynista sect.
posted on 1/11/20
Happy for you to have the views you've just stated although I don't fully agree with most. But if you actually think he is anti-semitic then I'd say you are definitely wrong. And the fact he's been suspended for what he said yesterday is an absurdity in my mind.
posted on 1/11/20
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 26 seconds ago
Happy for you to have the views you've just stated although I don't fully agree with most. But if you actually think he is anti-semitic then I'd say you are definitely wrong. And the fact he's been suspended for what he said yesterday is an absurdity in my mind.
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Ffs, I didn’t say that and nor did anyone else.
posted on 1/11/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
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In what way please?
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Because whether there’s exaggeration by some parties or not, you can’t use that as an excuse not to criticise Corbyn and accept he’s in the wrong.
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Spot on.
Now,,he cannot even admit to or apologize for how female Jewish Labour mps were treated by Labour, on his watch.
Shameful little arrogant fool.
posted on 1/11/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
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In what way please?
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Because whether there’s exaggeration by some parties or not, you can’t use that as an excuse not to criticise Corbyn and accept he’s in the wrong.
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I haven't done that. I'll happily criticise his whole handling of the affair. But it sickens me when an issue like this gets used for political gain. The hypocrisy from some quarters was astounding.
My biggest issue with the whole thing though is the way Israeli criticism was conflated with anti semitism. I agreed with the party trying to draw the distinction and ensure freedom of speech on the issue but then that silly international definition of anti semitism made that impossible and everyone just had to stop mentioning Israel in any way go about being suspended.
posted on 1/11/20
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 1 minute ago
Happy for you to have the views you've just stated although I don't fully agree with most. But if you actually think he is anti-semitic then I'd say you are definitely wrong. And the fact he's been suspended for what he said yesterday is an absurdity in my mind.
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Labour became anti-Semitic from 2015 when Corbynista joined and took over.
Corbyn empowered them based on his support for Hamas and hatred of Israel, and so allowed criticism of Israel to also be anti-jewish...aimed at Jewish Labour.
EHRC found him and his Labour guilty.
Not the papers or right wing.
posted on 1/11/20
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sorry but if anyone looks back and doesn't agree there were political elements both in and outside of labour trying to make the whole thing look worse for political motives then I think they are being dishonest with themselves. In that, Corbyn is right. I'm not saying there weren't any anti-Semitic elements or incidents but at times you'd have been forgiven for thinking the whole bunch of them were doing Nazzi salutes and goose stepping around the place.
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That’s a cop out of a post.
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In what way please?
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Because whether there’s exaggeration by some parties or not, you can’t use that as an excuse not to criticise Corbyn and accept he’s in the wrong.
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I haven't done that. I'll happily criticise his whole handling of the affair. But it sickens me when an issue like this gets used for political gain. The hypocrisy from some quarters was astounding.
My biggest issue with the whole thing though is the way Israeli criticism was conflated with anti semitism. I agreed with the party trying to draw the distinction and ensure freedom of speech on the issue but then that silly international definition of anti semitism made that impossible and everyone just had to stop mentioning Israel in any way go about being suspended.
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So even the independent EHRC findings are biased and wrong?
posted on 1/11/20
KingKenny, you say you’ll happily criticise him but above you didn’t.
Instead, you try to twist the debate into something else in order to avoid criticising him.
This thread sums it all up nicely.
posted on 1/11/20
I'd have to read the EHRC findings fully before I can comment there.
But at the time I really struggled to see incidents of actual anti Jewish criticism of Israel. Have you got examples as to be fair I may have missed them.
posted on 1/11/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 seconds ago
KingKenny, you say you’ll happily criticise him but above you didn’t.
Instead, you try to twist the debate into something else in order to avoid criticising him.
This thread sums it all up nicely.
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No I was specifically just talking about why he's been suspended. He did a shocking job of managing the whole thing but I also failed to see much in the way of anti semitism from him or even any support for it. He just didn't go gung ho and tried to leave room for opinions which then got him labelled imo.
I think at heart he's a good person but was never suitable to leading a political party.
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