comment by Chelsea1 (U22265)
posted 5 hours, 39 minutes ago
Free 37.5 hours a week childcare for 2 years or over
This policy I like the best. Instead of keeping kids in the house on their iPads. Send them to nursery where they will interact with other kids and also learn.
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Agreed this is a very good policy.
Lib Dems have something very similar tho
CONservatives were given the chance of running the country and they’ve practically managed divide it into the super rich and the rest of us. It’s time for a change. Can’t stand all those shenanigans with May in charge and now a buffoon who panders to Trump and makes up lies after lies. Time to vote the tories out!
Patel pretty much disowned any blame on the government for the state of poverty in this country. Its the Toey way to blame others. Never take responsibility for their own actions or policies that have lead to the current situation.
Not sure why I should pay extra income tax so millionaires can have free broadband and universal of course Labour know better than I do how to spend my money
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Anybody who thinks Jeremy Corbyn should be leader of this country and Dianne Abbott Home secretary needs shooting.
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From the current options available, who is better?
Johnson and Patel are much worse.
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They have absolutely nothing to back up their point any more. An actual turrrd would be better than Johnson and Patel for this country.
Now you have Corbyn and McDonnell who've put forward brilliant, costed policies they're really rattled.
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Costed
What's the payback period on nationalising all of the services they are promising? On top of the cost of nationalisation what about investment in these various services that will now have to be paid for by us?
Ah that's right, theyl just take 40-45% of my income. Fackers.
You vote Conservative if you care about yourself.
You vote Labour if you care about others.
Pretty much the long and short of it for me.
Corbyn is exactly what we need to rebalance the politics and finances of the last 20 years. Unfortunately, he hasn't got enough sense to tone it down sometimes so puts people off and therefore will never achieve the things he wants, some of which we desperately need.
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
Not sure why I should pay extra income tax so millionaires can have free broadband and universal of course Labour know better than I do how to spend my money
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it is sometimes cheaper to give a freeby to everyone than to assess who should be getting the freeby.
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 21 seconds ago
You vote Conservative if you care about yourself.
You vote Labour if you care about others.
Pretty much the long and short of it for me.
Corbyn is exactly what we need to rebalance the politics and finances of the last 20 years. Unfortunately, he hasn't got enough sense to tone it down sometimes so puts people off and therefore will never achieve the things he wants, some of which we desperately need.
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Vote Labour if you are jealous that others have more than you and want them punished.
Sums it up for me. I facking hate the Tory party but I'd never ever vote for a policy of nationalisation and increased tax for hard workers.
Costed?
The Institute for Fiscal Studies have called Labour’s plans ‘colossal’ and ‘not credible’.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 14 seconds ago
Costed?
The Institute for Fiscal Studies have called Labour’s plans ‘colossal’ and ‘not credible’.
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I've costed a Ferrari before, doesn't make it affordable
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 21 seconds ago
You vote Conservative if you care about yourself.
You vote Labour if you care about others.
Pretty much the long and short of it for me.
Corbyn is exactly what we need to rebalance the politics and finances of the last 20 years. Unfortunately, he hasn't got enough sense to tone it down sometimes so puts people off and therefore will never achieve the things he wants, some of which we desperately need.
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Vote Labour if you are jealous that others have more than you and want them punished.
Sums it up for me. I facking hate the Tory party but I'd never ever vote for a policy of nationalisation and increased tax for hard workers.
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It is very old economic thinking that it is better to raise the lowest earners and increase the gap to the richest. It has been shown over and over that after a certain point of income (which all developed countries are well past) that most social problems are linked to inequality rather than what the lowest have. Money is relative and human beings are naturally competitive.
Being rich is more linked to how you were born than it is to how hard you have worked. Some people are lucky they are born with the capacity to do a job that earns lots of money. See no reason they should earn vast vast amounts more.
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That is the issue Greatteams. Most people don't vote thinking about society, they think about themselves.
I think we need to limit multi house ownership and introduce rent caps. That would reduce house prices massively. As someone who has not long bought a house and with quite a low LTV, it would decimate my finances really, putting me into negative equity. I would still vote for it as I think it is what is needed.
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Making who your vote for a personal slight is absurd and adds nothing to the debate.
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comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Making who your vote for a personal slight is absurd and adds nothing to the debate.
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Who has done that?
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Read the posts above that start ‘vote Labour...’ above. People from both sides at it.
Interesting thought experiment for me is this scenario:
IF it could be PROVEN beyond any doubt that increasing benefits reduced the overall bill for the country and lifted people into work would it get passed. It absolutely would not. People have got such a thing against the idea of "freeloaders" that they would rather take the worst option economically. Cognitive bias at its finest.
So in the real world where you can't prove these things there is no chance of any sort of different approach. Just the same old work placement and fine people's benefits bull
Instead of aspiring to be well paid Labour want you to be jealous of those who are.
Because most of the decent Labour mps won't sit in a Corbyn led cabinet the shadow front bench is full of idiots like Ashworth, Gardiner and Burgon. It all started to go really belly up when they choose the wrong Miliband courtesy of the unions.
One to watch out for the future is Laura Pidcock she was almost in tears she was so overcome with emotion and joy at Labours election manifesto.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Making who your vote for a personal slight is absurd and adds nothing to the debate.
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Who has done that?
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Read the posts above that start ‘vote Labour...’ above. People from both sides at it.
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How can who you vote for not be a personal slight?? Politics is all about morality at its core. I am disgusted by the extreme anti-immigration politics and the awful way we talk about people on benefits in this country. Some people have lost all empathy it seems. I think less of a person if they vote for somebody based on those issues. Surely that is inherent?
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 5 seconds ago
Instead of aspiring to be well paid Labour want you to be jealous of those who are.
Because most of the decent Labour mps won't sit in a Corbyn led cabinet the shadow front bench is full of idiots like Ashworth, Gardiner and Burgon. It all started to go really belly up when they choose the wrong Miliband courtesy of the unions.
One to watch out for the future is Laura Pidcock she was almost in tears she was so overcome with emotion and joy at Labours election manifesto.
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The problem with that is all the barriers lots of people face in "aspiring to be well paid". The reality for a huge amount of people is that there is a cap on what is realistic or at least a huge amount stacked against them. Whereas those born rich enough to go to private school for example are pretty much guaranteed it.
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Making who your vote for a personal slight is absurd and adds nothing to the debate.
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Who has done that?
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Read the posts above that start ‘vote Labour...’ above. People from both sides at it.
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How can who you vote for not be a personal slight?? Politics is all about morality at its core. I am disgusted by the extreme anti-immigration politics and the awful way we talk about people on benefits in this country. Some people have lost all empathy it seems. I think less of a person if they vote for somebody based on those issues. Surely that is inherent?
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If you think you can label someone’s motives on the basis of who they vote for then it’s you who needs to take a look at himself, not the person voting.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Making who your vote for a personal slight is absurd and adds nothing to the debate.
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Who has done that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Read the posts above that start ‘vote Labour...’ above. People from both sides at it.
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How can who you vote for not be a personal slight?? Politics is all about morality at its core. I am disgusted by the extreme anti-immigration politics and the awful way we talk about people on benefits in this country. Some people have lost all empathy it seems. I think less of a person if they vote for somebody based on those issues. Surely that is inherent?
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If you think you can label someone’s motives on the basis of who they vote for then it’s you who needs to take a look at himself, not the person voting.
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it was implied in my response that there are different motives behind votes. Hence why I said "if they vote for someone based on those issues". The reality is though that polls show that the main issues for people are usually things that directly impact them than more general issues.
KingKenny (U1961)
Well, then you're debating something I haven't said nor disagreed with.
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posted on 22/11/19
comment by Chelsea1 (U22265)
posted 5 hours, 39 minutes ago
Free 37.5 hours a week childcare for 2 years or over
This policy I like the best. Instead of keeping kids in the house on their iPads. Send them to nursery where they will interact with other kids and also learn.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed this is a very good policy.
Lib Dems have something very similar tho
posted on 22/11/19
CONservatives were given the chance of running the country and they’ve practically managed divide it into the super rich and the rest of us. It’s time for a change. Can’t stand all those shenanigans with May in charge and now a buffoon who panders to Trump and makes up lies after lies. Time to vote the tories out!
posted on 22/11/19
Patel pretty much disowned any blame on the government for the state of poverty in this country. Its the Toey way to blame others. Never take responsibility for their own actions or policies that have lead to the current situation.
posted on 22/11/19
Not sure why I should pay extra income tax so millionaires can have free broadband and universal of course Labour know better than I do how to spend my money
posted on 22/11/19
*universal basic income
posted on 22/11/19
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Anybody who thinks Jeremy Corbyn should be leader of this country and Dianne Abbott Home secretary needs shooting.
-------
From the current options available, who is better?
Johnson and Patel are much worse.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They have absolutely nothing to back up their point any more. An actual turrrd would be better than Johnson and Patel for this country.
Now you have Corbyn and McDonnell who've put forward brilliant, costed policies they're really rattled.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Costed
What's the payback period on nationalising all of the services they are promising? On top of the cost of nationalisation what about investment in these various services that will now have to be paid for by us?
Ah that's right, theyl just take 40-45% of my income. Fackers.
posted on 22/11/19
You vote Conservative if you care about yourself.
You vote Labour if you care about others.
Pretty much the long and short of it for me.
Corbyn is exactly what we need to rebalance the politics and finances of the last 20 years. Unfortunately, he hasn't got enough sense to tone it down sometimes so puts people off and therefore will never achieve the things he wants, some of which we desperately need.
posted on 22/11/19
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
Not sure why I should pay extra income tax so millionaires can have free broadband and universal of course Labour know better than I do how to spend my money
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it is sometimes cheaper to give a freeby to everyone than to assess who should be getting the freeby.
posted on 22/11/19
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 21 seconds ago
You vote Conservative if you care about yourself.
You vote Labour if you care about others.
Pretty much the long and short of it for me.
Corbyn is exactly what we need to rebalance the politics and finances of the last 20 years. Unfortunately, he hasn't got enough sense to tone it down sometimes so puts people off and therefore will never achieve the things he wants, some of which we desperately need.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Vote Labour if you are jealous that others have more than you and want them punished.
Sums it up for me. I facking hate the Tory party but I'd never ever vote for a policy of nationalisation and increased tax for hard workers.
posted on 22/11/19
Costed?
The Institute for Fiscal Studies have called Labour’s plans ‘colossal’ and ‘not credible’.
posted on 22/11/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 14 seconds ago
Costed?
The Institute for Fiscal Studies have called Labour’s plans ‘colossal’ and ‘not credible’.
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I've costed a Ferrari before, doesn't make it affordable
posted on 22/11/19
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 21 seconds ago
You vote Conservative if you care about yourself.
You vote Labour if you care about others.
Pretty much the long and short of it for me.
Corbyn is exactly what we need to rebalance the politics and finances of the last 20 years. Unfortunately, he hasn't got enough sense to tone it down sometimes so puts people off and therefore will never achieve the things he wants, some of which we desperately need.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Vote Labour if you are jealous that others have more than you and want them punished.
Sums it up for me. I facking hate the Tory party but I'd never ever vote for a policy of nationalisation and increased tax for hard workers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is very old economic thinking that it is better to raise the lowest earners and increase the gap to the richest. It has been shown over and over that after a certain point of income (which all developed countries are well past) that most social problems are linked to inequality rather than what the lowest have. Money is relative and human beings are naturally competitive.
Being rich is more linked to how you were born than it is to how hard you have worked. Some people are lucky they are born with the capacity to do a job that earns lots of money. See no reason they should earn vast vast amounts more.
posted on 22/11/19
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posted on 22/11/19
That is the issue Greatteams. Most people don't vote thinking about society, they think about themselves.
I think we need to limit multi house ownership and introduce rent caps. That would reduce house prices massively. As someone who has not long bought a house and with quite a low LTV, it would decimate my finances really, putting me into negative equity. I would still vote for it as I think it is what is needed.
posted on 22/11/19
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posted on 22/11/19
Making who your vote for a personal slight is absurd and adds nothing to the debate.
posted on 22/11/19
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posted on 22/11/19
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Making who your vote for a personal slight is absurd and adds nothing to the debate.
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Who has done that?
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Read the posts above that start ‘vote Labour...’ above. People from both sides at it.
posted on 22/11/19
Interesting thought experiment for me is this scenario:
IF it could be PROVEN beyond any doubt that increasing benefits reduced the overall bill for the country and lifted people into work would it get passed. It absolutely would not. People have got such a thing against the idea of "freeloaders" that they would rather take the worst option economically. Cognitive bias at its finest.
So in the real world where you can't prove these things there is no chance of any sort of different approach. Just the same old work placement and fine people's benefits bull
posted on 22/11/19
Instead of aspiring to be well paid Labour want you to be jealous of those who are.
Because most of the decent Labour mps won't sit in a Corbyn led cabinet the shadow front bench is full of idiots like Ashworth, Gardiner and Burgon. It all started to go really belly up when they choose the wrong Miliband courtesy of the unions.
One to watch out for the future is Laura Pidcock she was almost in tears she was so overcome with emotion and joy at Labours election manifesto.
posted on 22/11/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Making who your vote for a personal slight is absurd and adds nothing to the debate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who has done that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Read the posts above that start ‘vote Labour...’ above. People from both sides at it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How can who you vote for not be a personal slight?? Politics is all about morality at its core. I am disgusted by the extreme anti-immigration politics and the awful way we talk about people on benefits in this country. Some people have lost all empathy it seems. I think less of a person if they vote for somebody based on those issues. Surely that is inherent?
posted on 22/11/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 5 seconds ago
Instead of aspiring to be well paid Labour want you to be jealous of those who are.
Because most of the decent Labour mps won't sit in a Corbyn led cabinet the shadow front bench is full of idiots like Ashworth, Gardiner and Burgon. It all started to go really belly up when they choose the wrong Miliband courtesy of the unions.
One to watch out for the future is Laura Pidcock she was almost in tears she was so overcome with emotion and joy at Labours election manifesto.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem with that is all the barriers lots of people face in "aspiring to be well paid". The reality for a huge amount of people is that there is a cap on what is realistic or at least a huge amount stacked against them. Whereas those born rich enough to go to private school for example are pretty much guaranteed it.
posted on 22/11/19
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Making who your vote for a personal slight is absurd and adds nothing to the debate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who has done that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Read the posts above that start ‘vote Labour...’ above. People from both sides at it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How can who you vote for not be a personal slight?? Politics is all about morality at its core. I am disgusted by the extreme anti-immigration politics and the awful way we talk about people on benefits in this country. Some people have lost all empathy it seems. I think less of a person if they vote for somebody based on those issues. Surely that is inherent?
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If you think you can label someone’s motives on the basis of who they vote for then it’s you who needs to take a look at himself, not the person voting.
posted on 22/11/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by KingKenny (U1961)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 seconds ago
Making who your vote for a personal slight is absurd and adds nothing to the debate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who has done that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Read the posts above that start ‘vote Labour...’ above. People from both sides at it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How can who you vote for not be a personal slight?? Politics is all about morality at its core. I am disgusted by the extreme anti-immigration politics and the awful way we talk about people on benefits in this country. Some people have lost all empathy it seems. I think less of a person if they vote for somebody based on those issues. Surely that is inherent?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you think you can label someone’s motives on the basis of who they vote for then it’s you who needs to take a look at himself, not the person voting.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
it was implied in my response that there are different motives behind votes. Hence why I said "if they vote for someone based on those issues". The reality is though that polls show that the main issues for people are usually things that directly impact them than more general issues.
posted on 22/11/19
KingKenny (U1961)
Well, then you're debating something I haven't said nor disagreed with.
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