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Ballon d'Or: van Dijk deserves it?

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The award is going to Messi it has already been leaked.

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i don't know why VVD is even going there tonight. He should just chill at home we have a game on Wednesday.

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08: Ronaldo
09: Messi
10: Messi
11: Messi
12: Messi
13: Ronaldo
14: Ronaldo
15: Messi
16: Ronaldo
17: Ronaldo
18: Modric
19: ?

Ronaldo: 5 times
Messi: 5 times

Is Messi wins it again then that proves that Messi is marginally the best ever?

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1. Messi
2. VVD
3. Salah
4. Ronaldo
5. Mane
6. Becker

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The thing is, defenders have a tough time with it because their job isn't as statistically pleasing. It isn't often you get a defender who literally raises the level of a team and not only doing that but winning the biggest club competition going.

Van Dijk has performed at a level for his role that arguably surpasses what others achieved in their given roles. As much as I don't like saying it, I do think he deserves it and it's fair to see other players recognised for significant contributions that aren't simply goals and assists.

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What did Messi do in the Copa America?

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Reason why defender won’t win it’s because they’re rarely headline grabbers. See last night Barca vs Atletico. Barca were second best but it took a moment of magic from Messi to rob them of all 3 points. Goals win games and Messi has done it better than anyone. VVD a brilliant player shouldn’t get the award as great as he’s been. If he does it’ll be because of voters fatigue.

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What did Van Dijk do in the Copa America?

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comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 5 minutes ago
The thing is, defenders have a tough time with it because their job isn't as statistically pleasing. It isn't often you get a defender who literally raises the level of a team and not only doing that but winning the biggest club competition going.

Van Dijk has performed at a level for his role that arguably surpasses what others achieved in their given roles. As much as I don't like saying it, I do think he deserves it and it's fair to see other players recognised for significant contributions that aren't simply goals and assists.
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Nobody is ever gonna brainwash me that what Van Dijk does is more difficult or more influential than what Messi does. It's not about defenders vs attackers. Messi was just better than him. I'd wager Barcelona would have struggled a lot more without Messi last season than Liverpool without Van Dijk. Even in a team with talented players like Barca, Messi is head, shoulders and waist above every other teammate (other than maybe Ter Stergen who is Barca's 2nd best player).

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comment by 50... (U1147)
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Reason why defender won’t win it’s because they’re rarely headline grabbers. See last night Barca vs Atletico. Barca were second best but it took a moment of magic from Messi to rob them of all 3 points. Goals win games and Messi has done it better than anyone. VVD a brilliant player shouldn’t get the award as great as he’s been. If he does it’ll be because of voters fatigue.
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Defenders also win games.

I personally believe VVD deserves it. Superb player and I'd even go as far as to say he will be the best ever PL defender if he carries on how he is. The amount Liverpool paid for him was a steal.

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And yes, it takes more footballing talent to be an attacker than a defender. So yes, attackers are better than defenders. If defenders were any more gifted as footballers, they wouldn't be defending in the first place.

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Messi was just better than him. I'd wager Barcelona would have struggled a lot more without Messi last season than Liverpool without Van Dijk

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Disagree.

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Van Dijk only looks good because he is playing for a world class Liverpool team. Why did he not win titles at Southampton? Why has he not led Holland to international success? 2 clean sheets this season? Is he just not doing his job? Are the club still paying his wages?

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This is a good point, Messi is still miles ahead of the pack

Van Dijk has been brilliant though, second spot would be fair and I'd not lose any sleep if he got the big prize

When Modric and Cannavaro won theirs, that was a joke

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You just have to watch Cool Runnings to understand really. I'd have the Jamaican driver above the Swiss brake man. As it takes way more talent to be the driver. Even Sanka was a brake man and he was an idiot.

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comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
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You just have to watch Cool Runnings to understand really. I'd have the Jamaican driver above the Swiss brake man. As it takes way more talent to be the driver. Even Sanka was a brake man and he was an idiot.
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comment by Roberto Tomkins (U1116)
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What did Van Dijk do in the Copa America?
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Watched a poor Messi while sat on the beach

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I’d understand the argument if Messi scored 30 and got 10 assists. But the guy got outlandish results last year in a pretty crap Barca team. He was also the sole reason Liverpool didn’t smash Barca about 7-0 over two legs. If jordi alba or someone finished one of the chances he put on a plate in the second leg then they would have gone through.

Ridiculous season from Messi.

John Terry won the pfa player of the year, was he better than Ronaldinho? No. So he didn’t win ballon dor.

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Has raps pc frozen? Just laughing at perfectly valid point s

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