Yeah it’ll still be attractive but we’ve had troubles getting the right managers for years now, which makes the job more and more unattractive.
Allegri’s an interesting one. The squad building could be a problem but he’s actually a good fit for a club that has the squad balance issues and lack of quality we do. He’s very good at adapting to the team and creating multiple systems to suit the squad. I just don’t like the defensive football, but as far as pragmatic coaches go he’s arguably the best around right now.
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 39 minutes ago
Top lad how have you been man! Been ages. Can’t get access to my old Twitter.
Regarding your article. The fact is unfortunately Ole isn’t qualified to manage us and for his sake it’s best we move on. The issues ain’t really him as it’s way bigger than Ole but he’s also not up to it and his leaving will expose our owners and Ed as our frustrations will be on them fully. They will have to change this model
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Been a while mate, make a new twitter? Much better DM'ing on there to keep up
I don't think Ole will ever be elite, but he just might be what we need right now.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 28 minutes ago
I get what the OP is saying but for me there’s just very little to suggest Ole is showing signs of making the right changes and taking us further. If you give a manager a few years that doesn’t mean he’ll eventually turn it around, you still have to be a very good manager which I just don’t see in Ole, he’s tactically poor and our play is so predictable and not even enjoyable.
I’m not sure bringing in someone mid season helps us either so for the time being I dont mind us sticking with Ole and at least seeing what he can do.
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I will never think Ole is the best manager available, only a fool would think this. I'm happy for the deadwood to be gotten rid off and younger players being introduced, which Ole is doing. Yes the football is awful right now, but when Ole ultimately gets sacked, we might just look back and see he has changed things for us.
Should have taken Paul Slade or Warnock if random Cardiff managers was the aim.
comment by Cinciwolf---- jealous little scottish to$$er (U11551)
posted 42 seconds ago
Should have taken Paul Slade or Warnock if random Cardiff managers was the aim.
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It's hard to rebuild and compete at the same time, only a few in history could ever manage it. We aren't settling for Ole. Every United fan knows he's not going to be good enough long-term.
Maybe it was random ex players. Perhaps Lee Sharpe is available or Mike Duxbury?
Should have taken Paul Slade or Warnock if random Cardiff managers was the aim.
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It wasn't so we shouldn't.
I look forward to your next stupid comment.
comment by Cinciwolf---- jealous little scottish to$$er (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe it was random ex players. Perhaps Lee Sharpe is available or Mike Duxbury?
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You would give RDD a run for his money today. He defeated KLS yesterday in a JA606 thick-off competition before the article was taken down.
But I’m not convinced the way he’s trying to go about things will work or ever has done in the past? We saw something similar when LVG was bringing through players like Blackett and McNair, they weren’t good enough no matter how much game time you give them. Add the fact there aren’t many experienced players in our squad to help bring through youth and I think it’s quite a naive strategy by Ole that so far isn’t working.
But I’m not convinced the way he’s trying to go about things will work or ever has done in the past? We saw something similar when LVG was bringing through players like Blackett and McNair, they weren’t good enough no matter how much game time you give them. Add the fact there aren’t many experienced players in our squad to help bring through youth and I think it’s quite a naive strategy by Ole that so far isn’t working.
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That is the issue right there.
Nothing wrong with clearing out the squad but you have to have some experienced players who are going to feature with the youngsters.
The failure to replace Herrera and Lukaku was criminal to be honest.
I think we have to remember this current crop of youth aren’t some once in a lifetime group like the Class of 92, aren’t our u23s currently in the second division? There’s some talent there no doubt but throwing so many in at the deep end is a very risky and naive thing to do, especially considering the state of our squad at the moment.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---- jealous little scottish to$$er (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe it was random ex players. Perhaps Lee Sharpe is available or Mike Duxbury?
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You would give RDD a run for his money today. He defeated KLS yesterday in a JA606 thick-off competition before the article was taken down.
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Trust me, I have this one won.
I'm embarrassed for you guys
I don't think any of us would be surprised if Ole were to get the sack this month and I don't think many, based on what we are seeing on the pitch, would really be able to say it's massively unfair.
However, if the club has given Ole the brief of seeing this period through with the intention of being stronger in a year or two then it would be a failing on their part not to let him continue.
Ole hasn't helped himself at times with strange team selections and tactics but he is also doing a lot of what a lot on here said needed to be done. The main problem I have with him is that he, IMO, isn't getting the best out of the players he has at his disposal. Football is a simple game and Ole just needs to get his players playing to their strengths in a formation that suits them best (Klopp does this at Liverpool with tremendous effect and it isn't tactical mastery just common sense).
I think Ole deserves the next couple of windows to get it right (as even if he doesn't on the pitch I'm certain the players he would sign would fit into what we hope to achieve playing style wise) before we cast him off for good.
For the rest of the season now, with top 4 looking unlikely, I'd like to see the return of the pressing game we saw in pre-season on a much more regular basis and for us to be a bit braver in attacking games from the start. Yes, that may lead us to lose some games heavily but I also think it would mean more wins as well. Get that ethos in the squad and we could be in a much better position in a year's time. Of course better players will also help with that as well. A proper striker and a midfielder or two, at a minimum, could transform the side.
I'm embarrassed for you guys
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Why? None of us give a $hit about your club.
I think the best thing about this rebuild is that the idea seemed to be to move away from the set up that Mourinho was instilling into the team, only to sign three players that are better suited to a low block, counter attacking style of football, and then to implement that style fairly regularly.
This is the worry with Pochettino taking over, this squad is unsuited to how he wants his teams to play. We haven’t got the back five for a highline and the starting full backs are shiiiiiiit going forward.
ou would give RDD a run for his money today. He defeated KLS yesterday in a JA606 thick-off competition before the article was taken down.
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Trust me, I have this one won.
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Did RDD admit defeat again?
As our fullbacks aren't great going forward I don't think we need to be as defensive in midfield. Someone sitting in front of the back four, IMO, would allow us to play two more attacking midfielders ahead of them. Not every team has to be like Liverpool with their attacking full backs creating chance after chance.
If we could get Pogba and McT playing the forward two positions in midfield (with McT more box to box and Pogba staying forward) then we should look much better. Dare I say it but probably Matic is best suited at present to fulfil that role. You never know after a break from the team he may give us another spurt of form? We do need better of course but Ole should be able to get more from this squad even though it has it's clear limitations.
Someone sitting in front of the back four, IMO, would allow us to play two more attacking midfielders ahead of them.
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I can only think of one person who can not see this.
And it isn't RDD.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 seconds ago
As our fullbacks aren't great going forward I don't think we need to be as defensive in midfield. Someone sitting in front of the back four, IMO, would allow us to play two more attacking midfielders ahead of them. Not every team has to be like Liverpool with their attacking full backs creating chance after chance.
If we could get Pogba and McT playing the forward two positions in midfield (with McT more box to box and Pogba staying forward) then we should look much better. Dare I say it but probably Matic is best suited at present to fulfil that role. You never know after a break from the team he may give us another spurt of form? We do need better of course but Ole should be able to get more from this squad even though it has it's clear limitations.
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This
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 11 minutes ago
I'm embarrassed for you guys
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Why? None of us give a $hit about your club.
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And I think that speaks volumes for your current predicament that you are not concerned with your direct rivals for those top six spots currently
Ole clearly doesn’t want to play 4123 though for whatever reason.
What are Olé's tactics? I don't watch them every week but united fans how would you describe and Olé team?
Ole clearly doesn’t want to play 4123 though for whatever reason.
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It will be his downfall.
And I think that speaks volumes for your current predicament that you are not concerned with your direct rivals for those top six spots currently
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I was never concerned about any other team in our dominant years either.
Allegri doesn't impress me that much. Felt he should have won a CL with that Juve squad and after his first season in Milan he didn't do much there.
Good manager but I wouldn't trust him with a rebuild or a squad as light as ours.
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posted on 3/12/19
Yeah it’ll still be attractive but we’ve had troubles getting the right managers for years now, which makes the job more and more unattractive.
Allegri’s an interesting one. The squad building could be a problem but he’s actually a good fit for a club that has the squad balance issues and lack of quality we do. He’s very good at adapting to the team and creating multiple systems to suit the squad. I just don’t like the defensive football, but as far as pragmatic coaches go he’s arguably the best around right now.
posted on 3/12/19
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 39 minutes ago
Top lad how have you been man! Been ages. Can’t get access to my old Twitter.
Regarding your article. The fact is unfortunately Ole isn’t qualified to manage us and for his sake it’s best we move on. The issues ain’t really him as it’s way bigger than Ole but he’s also not up to it and his leaving will expose our owners and Ed as our frustrations will be on them fully. They will have to change this model
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Been a while mate, make a new twitter? Much better DM'ing on there to keep up
I don't think Ole will ever be elite, but he just might be what we need right now.
posted on 3/12/19
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 28 minutes ago
I get what the OP is saying but for me there’s just very little to suggest Ole is showing signs of making the right changes and taking us further. If you give a manager a few years that doesn’t mean he’ll eventually turn it around, you still have to be a very good manager which I just don’t see in Ole, he’s tactically poor and our play is so predictable and not even enjoyable.
I’m not sure bringing in someone mid season helps us either so for the time being I dont mind us sticking with Ole and at least seeing what he can do.
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I will never think Ole is the best manager available, only a fool would think this. I'm happy for the deadwood to be gotten rid off and younger players being introduced, which Ole is doing. Yes the football is awful right now, but when Ole ultimately gets sacked, we might just look back and see he has changed things for us.
posted on 3/12/19
Should have taken Paul Slade or Warnock if random Cardiff managers was the aim.
posted on 3/12/19
comment by Cinciwolf---- jealous little scottish to$$er (U11551)
posted 42 seconds ago
Should have taken Paul Slade or Warnock if random Cardiff managers was the aim.
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It's hard to rebuild and compete at the same time, only a few in history could ever manage it. We aren't settling for Ole. Every United fan knows he's not going to be good enough long-term.
posted on 3/12/19
Maybe it was random ex players. Perhaps Lee Sharpe is available or Mike Duxbury?
posted on 3/12/19
Should have taken Paul Slade or Warnock if random Cardiff managers was the aim.
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It wasn't so we shouldn't.
I look forward to your next stupid comment.
posted on 3/12/19
comment by Cinciwolf---- jealous little scottish to$$er (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe it was random ex players. Perhaps Lee Sharpe is available or Mike Duxbury?
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You would give RDD a run for his money today. He defeated KLS yesterday in a JA606 thick-off competition before the article was taken down.
posted on 3/12/19
But I’m not convinced the way he’s trying to go about things will work or ever has done in the past? We saw something similar when LVG was bringing through players like Blackett and McNair, they weren’t good enough no matter how much game time you give them. Add the fact there aren’t many experienced players in our squad to help bring through youth and I think it’s quite a naive strategy by Ole that so far isn’t working.
posted on 3/12/19
But I’m not convinced the way he’s trying to go about things will work or ever has done in the past? We saw something similar when LVG was bringing through players like Blackett and McNair, they weren’t good enough no matter how much game time you give them. Add the fact there aren’t many experienced players in our squad to help bring through youth and I think it’s quite a naive strategy by Ole that so far isn’t working.
................
That is the issue right there.
Nothing wrong with clearing out the squad but you have to have some experienced players who are going to feature with the youngsters.
The failure to replace Herrera and Lukaku was criminal to be honest.
posted on 3/12/19
I think we have to remember this current crop of youth aren’t some once in a lifetime group like the Class of 92, aren’t our u23s currently in the second division? There’s some talent there no doubt but throwing so many in at the deep end is a very risky and naive thing to do, especially considering the state of our squad at the moment.
posted on 3/12/19
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---- jealous little scottish to$$er (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe it was random ex players. Perhaps Lee Sharpe is available or Mike Duxbury?
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You would give RDD a run for his money today. He defeated KLS yesterday in a JA606 thick-off competition before the article was taken down.
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Trust me, I have this one won.
I'm embarrassed for you guys
posted on 3/12/19
I don't think any of us would be surprised if Ole were to get the sack this month and I don't think many, based on what we are seeing on the pitch, would really be able to say it's massively unfair.
However, if the club has given Ole the brief of seeing this period through with the intention of being stronger in a year or two then it would be a failing on their part not to let him continue.
Ole hasn't helped himself at times with strange team selections and tactics but he is also doing a lot of what a lot on here said needed to be done. The main problem I have with him is that he, IMO, isn't getting the best out of the players he has at his disposal. Football is a simple game and Ole just needs to get his players playing to their strengths in a formation that suits them best (Klopp does this at Liverpool with tremendous effect and it isn't tactical mastery just common sense).
I think Ole deserves the next couple of windows to get it right (as even if he doesn't on the pitch I'm certain the players he would sign would fit into what we hope to achieve playing style wise) before we cast him off for good.
For the rest of the season now, with top 4 looking unlikely, I'd like to see the return of the pressing game we saw in pre-season on a much more regular basis and for us to be a bit braver in attacking games from the start. Yes, that may lead us to lose some games heavily but I also think it would mean more wins as well. Get that ethos in the squad and we could be in a much better position in a year's time. Of course better players will also help with that as well. A proper striker and a midfielder or two, at a minimum, could transform the side.
posted on 3/12/19
I'm embarrassed for you guys
.............
Why? None of us give a $hit about your club.
posted on 3/12/19
I think the best thing about this rebuild is that the idea seemed to be to move away from the set up that Mourinho was instilling into the team, only to sign three players that are better suited to a low block, counter attacking style of football, and then to implement that style fairly regularly.
This is the worry with Pochettino taking over, this squad is unsuited to how he wants his teams to play. We haven’t got the back five for a highline and the starting full backs are shiiiiiiit going forward.
posted on 3/12/19
ou would give RDD a run for his money today. He defeated KLS yesterday in a JA606 thick-off competition before the article was taken down.
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Trust me, I have this one won.
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Did RDD admit defeat again?
posted on 3/12/19
As our fullbacks aren't great going forward I don't think we need to be as defensive in midfield. Someone sitting in front of the back four, IMO, would allow us to play two more attacking midfielders ahead of them. Not every team has to be like Liverpool with their attacking full backs creating chance after chance.
If we could get Pogba and McT playing the forward two positions in midfield (with McT more box to box and Pogba staying forward) then we should look much better. Dare I say it but probably Matic is best suited at present to fulfil that role. You never know after a break from the team he may give us another spurt of form? We do need better of course but Ole should be able to get more from this squad even though it has it's clear limitations.
posted on 3/12/19
Someone sitting in front of the back four, IMO, would allow us to play two more attacking midfielders ahead of them.
......................
I can only think of one person who can not see this.
And it isn't RDD.
posted on 3/12/19
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 seconds ago
As our fullbacks aren't great going forward I don't think we need to be as defensive in midfield. Someone sitting in front of the back four, IMO, would allow us to play two more attacking midfielders ahead of them. Not every team has to be like Liverpool with their attacking full backs creating chance after chance.
If we could get Pogba and McT playing the forward two positions in midfield (with McT more box to box and Pogba staying forward) then we should look much better. Dare I say it but probably Matic is best suited at present to fulfil that role. You never know after a break from the team he may give us another spurt of form? We do need better of course but Ole should be able to get more from this squad even though it has it's clear limitations.
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posted on 3/12/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 11 minutes ago
I'm embarrassed for you guys
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Why? None of us give a $hit about your club.
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And I think that speaks volumes for your current predicament that you are not concerned with your direct rivals for those top six spots currently
posted on 3/12/19
Ole clearly doesn’t want to play 4123 though for whatever reason.
posted on 3/12/19
What are Olé's tactics? I don't watch them every week but united fans how would you describe and Olé team?
posted on 3/12/19
Ole clearly doesn’t want to play 4123 though for whatever reason.
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It will be his downfall.
posted on 3/12/19
And I think that speaks volumes for your current predicament that you are not concerned with your direct rivals for those top six spots currently
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I was never concerned about any other team in our dominant years either.
posted on 3/12/19
Allegri doesn't impress me that much. Felt he should have won a CL with that Juve squad and after his first season in Milan he didn't do much there.
Good manager but I wouldn't trust him with a rebuild or a squad as light as ours.
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