Disappointing sandy. We seem to be playing the same failure of a side like last season. All that money spent on those 3 and they barely get in the team. NDombele gets in, but can’t seem to get a consistent run of games going. Was an issue with Pochettino and now Mourinho needs to start integrating the new boys.
As much as I want to see a stronger midfield I don't think Ndombele and LoCelso are physically up to the demands of the league.
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 8 minutes ago
As much as I want to see a stronger midfield I don't think Ndombele and LoCelso are physically up to the demands of the league.
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Then why were they purchased?
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 8 minutes ago
As much as I want to see a stronger midfield I don't think Ndombele and LoCelso are physically up to the demands of the league.
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Then why were they purchased?
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Why was Soldado , Paulinho ? Don't get me wrong there good players but maybe just not suited to the English game
They have all had injury issues. Unfortunately now they're fit the man that wanted them is gone and has been replaced with someone who doesn't like play playing footballers.
If lo celso and Ndombele don't start on Sunday then Jose really is clueless.
Should be a midfield 3 of those two plus Dier/Foyth with a DM being brought in on Jan 1. Not holding my breath though.
Spurs recruitment /scouting system has been rubbish for years now just look at the N.koudou, Ninja, Janson, and will include Aurier, dont think these can all be blamed on the manager at the time even going back to Harry when we got Saha signings have left a lot to be desired something wrong within the system
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. LEVY OUT. (U7905)
posted 26 minutes ago
They have all had injury issues. Unfortunately now they're fit the man that wanted them is gone and has been replaced with someone who doesn't like play playing footballers.
If lo celso and Ndombele don't start on Sunday then Jose really is clueless.
Should be a midfield 3 of those two plus Dier/Foyth with a DM being brought in on Jan 1. Not holding my breath though.
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They were injured for a bit, but the previous manager did not play them much either, so not just down to the current manager.
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bad management
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More like bad recruitment, although could I suppose be bad management, as the previous manager brought all three players, that cannot now get in the starting XI.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. LEVY OUT. (U7905)
posted 26 minutes ago
They have all had injury issues. Unfortunately now they're fit the man that wanted them is gone and has been replaced with someone who doesn't like play playing footballers.
If lo celso and Ndombele don't start on Sunday then Jose really is clueless.
Should be a midfield 3 of those two plus Dier/Foyth with a DM being brought in on Jan 1. Not holding my breath though.
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They were injured for a bit, but the previous manager did not play them much either, so not just down to the current manager.
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Ndombele was pretty much a guaranteed starter rotation aside and Lo Celso started the last 2 games under Poch once has was fully fit. They had worked their way into the team, unfortunately Jose has taken them out.
Sessegnon imo was a very bad signing and I blame Poch for that. At £25m we could have bought somebody we actually need in the squad, ie a DM or RB. If Sessegnon was a left back I could understand, but he's not. Don't blame Jose for not using him when we have the likes of Son and Moura there but the other two have to start on Saturday.
Lo Celso looked despondent coming on with 5 minutes left.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bad management
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More like bad recruitment, although could I suppose be bad management, as the previous manager brought all three players, that cannot now get in the starting XI.
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All 3 are highly rated players it was great recruitment
It’s been bad management by poch, José and in case of Ndombele and GLC their respective international managers calling them up when clearly weren’t fit enough for it
“ Sessegnon imo was a very bad signing and I blame Poch for that. At £25m we could have bought somebody we actually need in the squad, ie a DM or RB. If Sessegnon was a left back I could understand, but he's not. Don't blame Jose for not using him when we have the likes of Son and Moura there but the other two have to start on Saturday.”
Sessegnon should be on the bench as the only real alternative to Son or Lucas.
Our bench last night while great on paper had no pace on at all.
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. LEVY OUT. (U7905)
posted 57 minutes ago
They have all had injury issues. Unfortunately now they're fit the man that wanted them is gone and has been replaced with someone who doesn't like play playing footballers.
If lo celso and Ndombele don't start on Sunday then Jose really is clueless.
Should be a midfield 3 of those two plus Dier/Foyth with a DM being brought in on Jan 1. Not holding my breath though.
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agreed. 3 man midfield needed. Especially away from home against bigger teams.
i don't think we can play with SoN, Moura , Kane and Alli in the same team with our current midfield options.
My guess is, Jose is still figuring the team out.
He is with a new group of players. Most of them though, he will have seen play for Spurs plenty of times, and will know their strengths/weaknesses, and knows they are already familiar with the team and the league.
Players such as Ndombele and Lo Celso are unknowns. So he’s playing it relatively safe by going with what’s already established, rather than be in the position is being a new manager with a new team featuring new players unfamiliar with the tram and league.
That said, it’s not working, because our midfield last night was rubbish. So hopefully he realises he needs to take bigger risks.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bad management
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More like bad recruitment, although could I suppose be bad management, as the previous manager brought all three players, that cannot now get in the starting XI.
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Still blaming Poch
As a United fan, it was a lot more daunting watching N'Dombele power forward than Winks, I must say.
From what I've seen from him, I think there could be a good player in there (similar to Dembele, who I was always envious of).
I can only assume its a fitness thing; didn't Dembele once admit to being too tired to play EPL football week-in, week-out? It wasn't like he was old too; think he'd just hit 30!
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posted on 5/12/19
Disappointing sandy. We seem to be playing the same failure of a side like last season. All that money spent on those 3 and they barely get in the team. NDombele gets in, but can’t seem to get a consistent run of games going. Was an issue with Pochettino and now Mourinho needs to start integrating the new boys.
posted on 5/12/19
As much as I want to see a stronger midfield I don't think Ndombele and LoCelso are physically up to the demands of the league.
posted on 5/12/19
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 8 minutes ago
As much as I want to see a stronger midfield I don't think Ndombele and LoCelso are physically up to the demands of the league.
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Then why were they purchased?
posted on 5/12/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 8 minutes ago
As much as I want to see a stronger midfield I don't think Ndombele and LoCelso are physically up to the demands of the league.
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Then why were they purchased?
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Why was Soldado , Paulinho ? Don't get me wrong there good players but maybe just not suited to the English game
posted on 5/12/19
They have all had injury issues. Unfortunately now they're fit the man that wanted them is gone and has been replaced with someone who doesn't like play playing footballers.
If lo celso and Ndombele don't start on Sunday then Jose really is clueless.
Should be a midfield 3 of those two plus Dier/Foyth with a DM being brought in on Jan 1. Not holding my breath though.
posted on 5/12/19
Spurs recruitment /scouting system has been rubbish for years now just look at the N.koudou, Ninja, Janson, and will include Aurier, dont think these can all be blamed on the manager at the time even going back to Harry when we got Saha signings have left a lot to be desired something wrong within the system
posted on 5/12/19
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. LEVY OUT. (U7905)
posted 26 minutes ago
They have all had injury issues. Unfortunately now they're fit the man that wanted them is gone and has been replaced with someone who doesn't like play playing footballers.
If lo celso and Ndombele don't start on Sunday then Jose really is clueless.
Should be a midfield 3 of those two plus Dier/Foyth with a DM being brought in on Jan 1. Not holding my breath though.
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They were injured for a bit, but the previous manager did not play them much either, so not just down to the current manager.
posted on 5/12/19
Bad management
posted on 5/12/19
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bad management
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More like bad recruitment, although could I suppose be bad management, as the previous manager brought all three players, that cannot now get in the starting XI.
posted on 5/12/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. LEVY OUT. (U7905)
posted 26 minutes ago
They have all had injury issues. Unfortunately now they're fit the man that wanted them is gone and has been replaced with someone who doesn't like play playing footballers.
If lo celso and Ndombele don't start on Sunday then Jose really is clueless.
Should be a midfield 3 of those two plus Dier/Foyth with a DM being brought in on Jan 1. Not holding my breath though.
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They were injured for a bit, but the previous manager did not play them much either, so not just down to the current manager.
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Ndombele was pretty much a guaranteed starter rotation aside and Lo Celso started the last 2 games under Poch once has was fully fit. They had worked their way into the team, unfortunately Jose has taken them out.
Sessegnon imo was a very bad signing and I blame Poch for that. At £25m we could have bought somebody we actually need in the squad, ie a DM or RB. If Sessegnon was a left back I could understand, but he's not. Don't blame Jose for not using him when we have the likes of Son and Moura there but the other two have to start on Saturday.
posted on 5/12/19
Lo Celso looked despondent coming on with 5 minutes left.
posted on 5/12/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bad management
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More like bad recruitment, although could I suppose be bad management, as the previous manager brought all three players, that cannot now get in the starting XI.
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All 3 are highly rated players it was great recruitment
It’s been bad management by poch, José and in case of Ndombele and GLC their respective international managers calling them up when clearly weren’t fit enough for it
posted on 5/12/19
“ Sessegnon imo was a very bad signing and I blame Poch for that. At £25m we could have bought somebody we actually need in the squad, ie a DM or RB. If Sessegnon was a left back I could understand, but he's not. Don't blame Jose for not using him when we have the likes of Son and Moura there but the other two have to start on Saturday.”
Sessegnon should be on the bench as the only real alternative to Son or Lucas.
Our bench last night while great on paper had no pace on at all.
posted on 5/12/19
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. LEVY OUT. (U7905)
posted 57 minutes ago
They have all had injury issues. Unfortunately now they're fit the man that wanted them is gone and has been replaced with someone who doesn't like play playing footballers.
If lo celso and Ndombele don't start on Sunday then Jose really is clueless.
Should be a midfield 3 of those two plus Dier/Foyth with a DM being brought in on Jan 1. Not holding my breath though.
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agreed. 3 man midfield needed. Especially away from home against bigger teams.
posted on 5/12/19
i don't think we can play with SoN, Moura , Kane and Alli in the same team with our current midfield options.
posted on 5/12/19
My guess is, Jose is still figuring the team out.
He is with a new group of players. Most of them though, he will have seen play for Spurs plenty of times, and will know their strengths/weaknesses, and knows they are already familiar with the team and the league.
Players such as Ndombele and Lo Celso are unknowns. So he’s playing it relatively safe by going with what’s already established, rather than be in the position is being a new manager with a new team featuring new players unfamiliar with the tram and league.
That said, it’s not working, because our midfield last night was rubbish. So hopefully he realises he needs to take bigger risks.
posted on 5/12/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bad management
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More like bad recruitment, although could I suppose be bad management, as the previous manager brought all three players, that cannot now get in the starting XI.
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Still blaming Poch
posted on 5/12/19
Poch's fault, obviously
posted on 5/12/19
As a United fan, it was a lot more daunting watching N'Dombele power forward than Winks, I must say.
From what I've seen from him, I think there could be a good player in there (similar to Dembele, who I was always envious of).
I can only assume its a fitness thing; didn't Dembele once admit to being too tired to play EPL football week-in, week-out? It wasn't like he was old too; think he'd just hit 30!
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