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posted on 9/12/19

Purely coincidental that most Western Union offices are in high immigration areas.

posted on 9/12/19

comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm not going to challenge anyone's beliefs about the EU but I will add the following quote from Jean Monnet:

European nations should be guided towards the super-state without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.

In a letter to a friend on April 30th 1952, founding father of the EU.

It is my belief that the EU is nothing more than the consolidation and centralisation of power. This is not sovereignty, freedom, or tye free will of the people of any country, yet it is exactly what is happening. I can see the benefits of the EU, but it is not being used for the purposes of what people believe, it is far more malevolent, it's a dictatorship heading towards a fascist state. My two pence worth only.
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70 odd year old quote...
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And why should it not be relevant?
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Because of treaties which followed; Maastricht, Amsterdam, Nice and Lisbon proclaiming there cannot be changes to the EU 'constitution' without universal consent of member states.

All of whom have an executive veto.

posted on 9/12/19

And when Edward heath took us into the EU we were told it was only a trading area, but little by little we have given more and more away. Money, laws, immigration, our waters, trading restrictions etc. I don't see why a line is going to be drawn anytime soon just because of those agreements. Before we left and maybe after, they were talking about taking control of our forces and forging an EU army, which I find very alarming.

Listen I'm all with the idea of it, I just don't think it's being used as you think it is, but it really isn't for me to tell you what to believe.

posted on 9/12/19

comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm not going to challenge anyone's beliefs about the EU but I will add the following quote from Jean Monnet:

European nations should be guided towards the super-state without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation.

In a letter to a friend on April 30th 1952, founding father of the EU.

It is my belief that the EU is nothing more than the consolidation and centralisation of power. This is not sovereignty, freedom, or tye free will of the people of any country, yet it is exactly what is happening. I can see the benefits of the EU, but it is not being used for the purposes of what people believe, it is far more malevolent, it's a dictatorship heading towards a fascist state. My two pence worth only.
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70 odd year old quote...
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And why should it not be relevant?
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is it actually what has happened?

posted on 9/12/19

Little by little yes. Can't make wholesale changes in one go, everyone would go nuts.

posted on 9/12/19

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 59 minutes ago
Purely coincidental that most Western Union offices are in high immigration areas.
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Ok so are western union in on the great take down the uk conspiracy too?

Genuinely dismayed that anyone in the north of England could consider voting Tory. It’s like you’re blind to what they have done to your cities

posted on 9/12/19

comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 5 minutes ago
And when Edward heath took us into the EU we were told it was only a trading area, but little by little we have given more and more away. Money, laws, immigration, our waters, trading restrictions etc. I don't see why a line is going to be drawn anytime soon just because of those agreements. Before we left and maybe after, they were talking about taking control of our forces and forging an EU army, which I find very alarming.

Listen I'm all with the idea of it, I just don't think it's being used as you think it is, but it really isn't for me to tell you what to believe.
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So a mythical EU army worries you but I assume you fully support the British army who have attacked nations based on lies?

posted on 9/12/19

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 5 minutes ago
And when Edward heath took us into the EU we were told it was only a trading area, but little by little we have given more and more away. Money, laws, immigration, our waters, trading restrictions etc. I don't see why a line is going to be drawn anytime soon just because of those agreements. Before we left and maybe after, they were talking about taking control of our forces and forging an EU army, which I find very alarming.

Listen I'm all with the idea of it, I just don't think it's being used as you think it is, but it really isn't for me to tell you what to believe.
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So a mythical EU army worries you but I assume you fully support the British army who have attacked nations based on lies?
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Nope, I absolutely don't. They're all corrupt, and how Blair hasn't been arrested for war crimes is disgraceful.

posted on 9/12/19

And I completely disagree that the EU isn’t doing what it is supposed to, living in Ireland I have seen first hand what EU grants have done for building essential infrastructure because over here we actually display the fact that the EU contributed to building these things, this doesn’t happen in the UK, despite massive amounts of EU funding going into Projects across the UK.
Instead you’ve been drip fed anti EU propaganda like this EU army you’re talking about.

posted on 9/12/19

comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 5 minutes ago
And when Edward heath took us into the EU we were told it was only a trading area, but little by little we have given more and more away. Money, laws, immigration, our waters, trading restrictions etc. I don't see why a line is going to be drawn anytime soon just because of those agreements. Before we left and maybe after, they were talking about taking control of our forces and forging an EU army, which I find very alarming.

Listen I'm all with the idea of it, I just don't think it's being used as you think it is, but it really isn't for me to tell you what to believe.
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So a mythical EU army worries you but I assume you fully support the British army who have attacked nations based on lies?
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Nope, I absolutely don't. They're all corrupt, and how Blair hasn't been arrested for war crimes is disgraceful.
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Fair enough

posted on 9/12/19

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Purely coincidental that most Western Union offices are in high immigration areas.
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Its an international money transfer business.

Of course most Western Union offices are in high immigration areas because it's closer to their customers. This is the nature of business FFS.

With logic like this no wonder people are easily brainwashed.

posted on 9/12/19

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 5 minutes ago
And when Edward heath took us into the EU we were told it was only a trading area, but little by little we have given more and more away. Money, laws, immigration, our waters, trading restrictions etc. I don't see why a line is going to be drawn anytime soon just because of those agreements. Before we left and maybe after, they were talking about taking control of our forces and forging an EU army, which I find very alarming.

Listen I'm all with the idea of it, I just don't think it's being used as you think it is, but it really isn't for me to tell you what to believe.
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So a mythical EU army worries you but I assume you fully support the British army who have attacked nations based on lies?
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They don't need Britain to form an army anyway.

Also, proposals like forming an army were bound to be floated at some point. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen or that you should up and leave the union.

posted on 9/12/19

comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Purely coincidental that most Western Union offices are in high immigration areas.
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Its an international money transfer business.

Of course most Western Union offices are in high immigration areas because it's closer to their customers. This is the nature of business FFS.

With logic like this no wonder people are easily brainwashed.
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You'd also have to be a complete idiot to use WU to transfer money to another EU country.

posted on 9/12/19

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Purely coincidental that most Western Union offices are in high immigration areas.
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Its an international money transfer business.

Of course most Western Union offices are in high immigration areas because it's closer to their customers. This is the nature of business FFS.

With logic like this no wonder people are easily brainwashed.
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You'd also have to be a complete idiot to use WU to transfer money to another EU country.
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Yeah, this too.

posted on 9/12/19

comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 5 minutes ago
And when Edward heath took us into the EU we were told it was only a trading area, but little by little we have given more and more away. Money, laws, immigration, our waters, trading restrictions etc. I don't see why a line is going to be drawn anytime soon just because of those agreements. Before we left and maybe after, they were talking about taking control of our forces and forging an EU army, which I find very alarming.

Listen I'm all with the idea of it, I just don't think it's being used as you think it is, but it really isn't for me to tell you what to believe.
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So a mythical EU army worries you but I assume you fully support the British army who have attacked nations based on lies?
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They don't need Britain to form an army anyway.

Also, proposals like forming an army were bound to be floated at some point. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen or that you should up and leave the union.
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Don't disagree, but I don't even believe we'll even leave the EU. The fact that we've been stuck in limbo and all the while it's been making us poorer and weaker economically, we'll be begging to be let back in, and most likely to the detriment of the previously mentioned treaties, probably kiss them goodbye, we'll have to dance to their probably.

posted on 9/12/19

Their tune#

posted on 9/12/19

comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 5 minutes ago
And when Edward heath took us into the EU we were told it was only a trading area, but little by little we have given more and more away. Money, laws, immigration, our waters, trading restrictions etc. I don't see why a line is going to be drawn anytime soon just because of those agreements. Before we left and maybe after, they were talking about taking control of our forces and forging an EU army, which I find very alarming.

Listen I'm all with the idea of it, I just don't think it's being used as you think it is, but it really isn't for me to tell you what to believe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So a mythical EU army worries you but I assume you fully support the British army who have attacked nations based on lies?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They don't need Britain to form an army anyway.

Also, proposals like forming an army were bound to be floated at some point. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen or that you should up and leave the union.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't disagree, but I don't even believe we'll even leave the EU. The fact that we've been stuck in limbo and all the while it's been making us poorer and weaker economically, we'll be begging to be let back in, and most likely to the detriment of the previously mentioned treaties, probably kiss them goodbye, we'll have to dance to their probably.
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The money wasted to date on Brexit should be a massive red flag, if a party so determined to leave hasn’t been able to by now we’ll what does this say about their ability to get things done..

posted on 9/12/19

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 5 minutes ago
And when Edward heath took us into the EU we were told it was only a trading area, but little by little we have given more and more away. Money, laws, immigration, our waters, trading restrictions etc. I don't see why a line is going to be drawn anytime soon just because of those agreements. Before we left and maybe after, they were talking about taking control of our forces and forging an EU army, which I find very alarming.

Listen I'm all with the idea of it, I just don't think it's being used as you think it is, but it really isn't for me to tell you what to believe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So a mythical EU army worries you but I assume you fully support the British army who have attacked nations based on lies?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They don't need Britain to form an army anyway.

Also, proposals like forming an army were bound to be floated at some point. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen or that you should up and leave the union.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't disagree, but I don't even believe we'll even leave the EU. The fact that we've been stuck in limbo and all the while it's been making us poorer and weaker economically, we'll be begging to be let back in, and most likely to the detriment of the previously mentioned treaties, probably kiss them goodbye, we'll have to dance to their probably.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The money wasted to date on Brexit should be a massive red flag, if a party so determined to leave hasn’t been able to by now we’ll what does this say about their ability to get things done..
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It's their punishment for us daring to leave. We're all being fooked as a result of it.

posted on 9/12/19

If the EU is such a good thing, why is is being made so difficult to leave?

posted on 9/12/19

comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko (U10893)
posted 5 minutes ago
And when Edward heath took us into the EU we were told it was only a trading area, but little by little we have given more and more away. Money, laws, immigration, our waters, trading restrictions etc. I don't see why a line is going to be drawn anytime soon just because of those agreements. Before we left and maybe after, they were talking about taking control of our forces and forging an EU army, which I find very alarming.

Listen I'm all with the idea of it, I just don't think it's being used as you think it is, but it really isn't for me to tell you what to believe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So a mythical EU army worries you but I assume you fully support the British army who have attacked nations based on lies?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They don't need Britain to form an army anyway.

Also, proposals like forming an army were bound to be floated at some point. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen or that you should up and leave the union.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't disagree, but I don't even believe we'll even leave the EU. The fact that we've been stuck in limbo and all the while it's been making us poorer and weaker economically, we'll be begging to be let back in, and most likely to the detriment of the previously mentioned treaties, probably kiss them goodbye, we'll have to dance to their probably.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The money wasted to date on Brexit should be a massive red flag, if a party so determined to leave hasn’t been able to by now we’ll what does this say about their ability to get things done..
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It's their punishment for us daring to leave. We're all being fooked as a result of it.
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It's more a case if them trying to get the best deal they can, with them having a much better position to negotiate from. Trying to get other parties in the UK to agree to crap deals is proving difficult but then we knew this was going to be the case but not enough people listened.

posted on 9/12/19

comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 24 minutes ago
If the EU is such a good thing, why is is being made so difficult to leave?
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The difficulty is trying to shape an arrangement that benefits the UK even half as much as the current one we've spent over 40 years forming in our favour

posted on 9/12/19

Where we are a net importer of EU goods?

Perfect. So I’m sure EU goods will go up and possibly non eu goods possibly reduced in price.

posted on 9/12/19

comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 26 minutes ago
Where we are a net importer of EU goods?

Perfect. So I’m sure EU goods will go up and possibly non eu goods possibly reduced in price.
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Wow it is truly unfortunate you feel so strongly about something you clearly can't comprehend even in the most simplest terms.

posted on 9/12/19

comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 4 hours, 45 minutes ago
Guess he doesn't like Salah, Bobby, Fabinho, Mane, Keita etc treating the UK as their own country either.

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How do you know, his comment was based on EU migrants. Some using the UK as a cash point and sending money home.
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You mean like English people and companies are doing all over the world?

You are brainwashed by lies.
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Hasn’t Arouna been working in China? I assume he spent all his earnings in China and sent nothing to his family in Britain?

posted on 10/12/19

comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 10 hours, 55 minutes ago
If the EU is such a good thing, why is is being made so difficult to leave?
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It's not.

The UK government's decision to seek a version of Brexit (leaving the CU and SM) without completing the most basic due diligence (shock horror NI shares a land border with a member state) and gaining parliamentary support, has caused this mess.

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