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comment by Coutinho's Mirkin - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U22212)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe your players are just crap and have a terrible attitude.
There isn’t a single player in your squad that would go for £40m+!
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Auba, Laca, Pepe for sure. Tho the latter two's form hasn't been good of recent.
My point is there are lots of players crap and have a terrible attitude going for decent price in the market.
Us giving crap players massive contracts hasn’t helped. No clubs will pay their salaries at the level their on here
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Why do you value Xhaka at 30+ million when he is rubbish in every single game? Arsenal got rinsed over him and it's a bit weird to expect another club to do the same.
What are you talking about, we sold Ox and Iwobi for a combined 80m. They've got to be amongst the deals of the century.
Xhaka isn't worth feck all though. We overpaid big time and rightly won't recoup much (he's no more than a 10-15m player when coupling in the salary you'd need to at least match.
We've not done too badly with sales lately in reality, the ones we struggle to sell are usually because we're horribly overpaying them and they're carp... otherwise we wouldn't want to sell them
comment by Dubbed the new Arteta (U21076)
posted 13 minutes ago
What are you talking about, we sold Ox and Iwobi for a combined 80m. They've got to be amongst the deals of the century.
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Ox has been good for us.
Selling Solanke for 20m was ridiculous business.
comment by Coutinho's Mirkin - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U22212)
posted 22 minutes ago
Auba is in the twilight of his career... you won’t get £40m for him.
Lacazette is nothing more than an impact sub
Pepe is a massive flop. Arsenal paid £70m for someone that boosted his figures with penalties in the French league
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Aubameyang would easily go for more than 40 mill. Top 3 highest goalscorer in the PL, marketable name, he would sell shirts. Most of his goals are in the box so he doesn’t rely on his pace. 60-80 mill will def get for him.
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads... WORLD CHAMPIONS (U3979)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Arteta (U21076)
posted 13 minutes ago
What are you talking about, we sold Ox and Iwobi for a combined 80m. They've got to be amongst the deals of the century.
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Ox has been good for us.
Selling Solanke for 20m was ridiculous business.
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Exactly, these types of business always happen while and people tout Xhaka for 15 million
The market has changed and become inflated hence ethe player must be sold at a higher price.
Xhaka is a political animal. Thats an issue for any buying club. Why would any manager take a chance on a player who abused his own fanbase in the middle of a game? So if you ignore that his game has not been suitable for the premier league and many players do well in other countries, so its not uncommon, Xhaka's behaviour on the pitch and in the dressing room means he is a risky buy for any club.
Money laundering in everything but name.
The rumours about Xhaka for a loan thereafter a miserly payment of 25 million is ridiculous.
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Brilliant deal. Baffled some team is prepared to pay that for him . Arsenal couldn’t give him away.
comment by The Power of Now (U20893)
posted 8 minutes ago
The rumours about Xhaka for a loan thereafter a miserly payment of 25 million is ridiculous.
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Brilliant deal. Baffled some team is prepared to pay that for him . Arsenal couldn’t give him away.
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He's the 27-year old captain of a decent international side at the absolute prime of his career.
One man's trash is another's treasure. His value doesn't just disappear because Arsenal don't have a clue on how to get a tune out of him.
So we pay 35 mil for a player whom the manager puts in the wrong position, bringing errors. Then the fans who allegedly support the team spend 2 years doing nothing but slating him game after game, blaming him for everything, his fault or not. The fan venom pushes the player making him lose it at said fans, causing yet more bad media coverage of the player
Why on earth would you expect to get MORE money than you paid, after that sequence of events? Is it that you don't know what a devalued asset is or just don't get how it applies here? You did answer your own question in your OP.
Yes, it is the fans. Our players (fan satisfaction or not) are the assets in the market you're on about. And our substantial trollbase bottom out the prices for our departing players. You can't expect to buy something, spend years telling everyone its utter sh!t, then be demanding profit when you sell it. Even the footy market ain't THAT crazy.
Which manager put him in the 'wrong' position?
Arsene Wenger? Emery? Freddie Ljunberg?
He cost points for all 3!
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 11 minutes ago
So we pay 35 mil for a player whom the manager puts in the wrong position, bringing errors. Then the fans who allegedly support the team spend 2 years doing nothing but slating him game after game, blaming him for everything, his fault or not. The fan venom pushes the player making him lose it at said fans, causing yet more bad media coverage of the player
Why on earth would you expect to get MORE money than you paid, after that sequence of events? Is it that you don't know what a devalued asset is or just don't get how it applies here? You did answer your own question in your OP.
Yes, it is the fans. Our players (fan satisfaction or not) are the assets in the market you're on about. And our substantial trollbase bottom out the prices for our departing players. You can't expect to buy something, spend years telling everyone its utter sh!t, then be demanding profit when you sell it. Even the footy market ain't THAT crazy.
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Oh here we go, we are to blame because we’ve criticised an average player that refuses to better himself. Get a life!.
Wenger Jenius, others just kept on. Far as I'm concerned until people want to put Ozil at the top of the list for individual player blame at sackings, then naming other players isn't at all fair. Ozil's constant failure to perform year after year is a massive factor in results contributing to job loss. Even given two of the world's best strikers (the excuse people used for him being sh!t before Auba and Laca), he STILL ain't doing a damn thing. But oh no it was all Xhaka's fault they got sacked. Wasn't even mostly his fault, let alone all.
Henry
Went way beyond "criticism" for Xhaka. People even blame/d him for poor results when he plays well. There's fair criticism and there's venomous bile. Xhaka got the latter. As does any Arsenal player, these days, who isn't invincibles good. Gwen is a prime example. He's been brilliant for us, yes errors and hothead, as kids do. But you see clowns on here saying he's sh!t when he puts in a near MoTM performance. Too many trolls at the club and they take player/manager slating to whole new level of foul. Don't know why ya sat giving it "here we go" as though you aren't aware of the aftv Muppet massive, having totally sh!t up the club atmosphere with their constant stream of toxic. Nor why you'd find it difficult to see how a player having to put up with this atmosphere, when he doesn't have to, might just say stuff this and hand in the request.
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 7 minutes ago
Wenger Jenius, others just kept on. Far as I'm concerned until people want to put Ozil at the top of the list for individual player blame at sackings, then naming other players isn't at all fair. Ozil's constant failure to perform year after year is a massive factor in results contributing to job loss. Even given two of the world's best strikers (the excuse people used for him being sh!t before Auba and Laca), he STILL ain't doing a damn thing. But oh no it was all Xhaka's fault they got sacked. Wasn't even mostly his fault, let alone all.
Henry
Went way beyond "criticism" for Xhaka. People even blame/d him for poor results when he plays well. There's fair criticism and there's venomous bile. Xhaka got the latter. As does any Arsenal player, these days, who isn't invincibles good. Gwen is a prime example. He's been brilliant for us, yes errors and hothead, as kids do. But you see clowns on here saying he's sh!t when he puts in a near MoTM performance. Too many trolls at the club and they take player/manager slating to whole new level of foul. Don't know why ya sat giving it "here we go" as though you aren't aware of the aftv Muppet massive, having totally sh!t up the club atmosphere with their constant stream of toxic. Nor why you'd find it difficult to see how a player having to put up with this atmosphere, when he doesn't have to, might just say stuff this and hand in the request.
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No he was rightly criticised, most of his errors have led to costly goals which have cost us points. This isn’t knee jerk with xhaka, this happens every season and he has never even tried to rectify his game. His attitude has stunk at times. Fans had enough, it came to boiling point when he strolled off the pitch against palace when we needed the points. No the abuse him and his family recieved wasn’t acceptable and that was uncalled for but that was a minority of fans who are stupid. The booing wasn’t knee jerk , this is a player with a terrible attitude.
Lots of sides that have fallen on leaner times will suffer from reactionary fanbases and their impossible "standards". None of this is especially unique to the Arsenal.
It's just unfortunate for whoever ends up being the scapegoat du jour.
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 7 minutes ago
Wenger Jenius, others just kept on. Far as I'm concerned until people want to put Ozil at the top of the list for individual player blame at sackings, then naming other players isn't at all fair. Ozil's constant failure to perform year after year is a massive factor in results contributing to job loss. Even given two of the world's best strikers (the excuse people used for him being sh!t before Auba and Laca), he STILL ain't doing a damn thing. But oh no it was all Xhaka's fault they got sacked. Wasn't even mostly his fault, let alone all.
Henry
Went way beyond "criticism" for Xhaka. People even blame/d him for poor results when he plays well. There's fair criticism and there's venomous bile. Xhaka got the latter. As does any Arsenal player, these days, who isn't invincibles good. Gwen is a prime example. He's been brilliant for us, yes errors and hothead, as kids do. But you see clowns on here saying he's sh!t when he puts in a near MoTM performance. Too many trolls at the club and they take player/manager slating to whole new level of foul. Don't know why ya sat giving it "here we go" as though you aren't aware of the aftv Muppet massive, having totally sh!t up the club atmosphere with their constant stream of toxic. Nor why you'd find it difficult to see how a player having to put up with this atmosphere, when he doesn't have to, might just say stuff this and hand in the request.
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No he was rightly criticised, most of his errors have led to costly goals which have cost us points. This isn’t knee jerk with xhaka, this happens every season and he has never even tried to rectify his game. His attitude has stunk at times. Fans had enough, it came to boiling point when he strolled off the pitch against palace when we needed the points. No the abuse him and his family recieved wasn’t acceptable and that was uncalled for but that was a minority of fans who are stupid. The booing wasn’t knee jerk , this is a player with a terrible attitude.
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So where is that same hatred for Ozil? He has been worse than Xhaka (in relative terms) and for longer. Can't be right/fair criticism when you're not dishing it out fairly among ALL responsible. Both have been poor but Xhaka has served the club better than Ozil, for half the money. At least he made an effort ffs, cared enough to try his best in face of pure venom all the time. Unlike Ozil who gets his ass kissed and still CBA to play for you. So why aren't hating Ozil with just as much conviction, when he is more deserving of it?
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 7 minutes ago
Wenger Jenius, others just kept on. Far as I'm concerned until people want to put Ozil at the top of the list for individual player blame at sackings, then naming other players isn't at all fair. Ozil's constant failure to perform year after year is a massive factor in results contributing to job loss. Even given two of the world's best strikers (the excuse people used for him being sh!t before Auba and Laca), he STILL ain't doing a damn thing. But oh no it was all Xhaka's fault they got sacked. Wasn't even mostly his fault, let alone all.
Henry
Went way beyond "criticism" for Xhaka. People even blame/d him for poor results when he plays well. There's fair criticism and there's venomous bile. Xhaka got the latter. As does any Arsenal player, these days, who isn't invincibles good. Gwen is a prime example. He's been brilliant for us, yes errors and hothead, as kids do. But you see clowns on here saying he's sh!t when he puts in a near MoTM performance. Too many trolls at the club and they take player/manager slating to whole new level of foul. Don't know why ya sat giving it "here we go" as though you aren't aware of the aftv Muppet massive, having totally sh!t up the club atmosphere with their constant stream of toxic. Nor why you'd find it difficult to see how a player having to put up with this atmosphere, when he doesn't have to, might just say stuff this and hand in the request.
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No he was rightly criticised, most of his errors have led to costly goals which have cost us points. This isn’t knee jerk with xhaka, this happens every season and he has never even tried to rectify his game. His attitude has stunk at times. Fans had enough, it came to boiling point when he strolled off the pitch against palace when we needed the points. No the abuse him and his family recieved wasn’t acceptable and that was uncalled for but that was a minority of fans who are stupid. The booing wasn’t knee jerk , this is a player with a terrible attitude.
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So where is that same hatred for Ozil? He has been worse than Xhaka (in relative terms) and for longer. Can't be right/fair criticism when you're not dishing it out fairly among ALL responsible. Both have been poor but Xhaka has served the club better than Ozil, for half the money. At least he made an effort ffs, cared enough to try his best in face of pure venom all the time. Unlike Ozil who gets his ass kissed and still CBA to play for you. So why aren't hating Ozil with just as much conviction, when he is more deserving of it?
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Where have you been?!. Ozil is massively criticised and blows hot and cold with fans. Lots of fans were calling for him to be sold. Are you serious?!. Ozils attitude is always called into question every season, don’t know what you’re on about. Xhaka has served the club better . What evidence do you base that ridiculous statement on!. They both haven’t given 100% to this club since they arrived. Compare our top 6 rivals including Leicester and pick a side where Xhaka gets in? He doesn’t get in any top 8 team. Hel give you 3 or 4 gd games a season, I’m fed up of his inconsistency and Ozil is the same.
You must watch different games to me because the games I watch Xhaka gives 100%. As in busts his ass as if he is actually at work getting paid to be there and wants to win the game. You can accuse him of a lot of things but generally, not making a damned effort to play and swanning about doing nothing game in game out, isn't one of them. Ozil has been every bit as poor technically with the added insult that he actually isn't even putting in basic effort.
And no way has there been the same lvl of noise about getting Ozil out of the team. Ffs we had/have fans demanding he play (sure you're one of em). The Chelsea game was a shining beacon of what a Ozil is. Jorginho ain't better than him and shoulda been handed his ass by our alleged superstar playmaker. The man lacks basic competitiveness and the will to win yet most still say he should be played and keep stinking up the CAM position. I don't remember you ever asserting Xhaka should be a starter until we can sell him. Seen you say Ozil should though. Paying more attention to what he's paid than the repeated and escalating damage he does to the team and club around him.
You’re deluded. You must be a relative or friend of xhaka to think that. As I said where have you been to not have seen the Ozil criticism , seems you just see things to fit your narrative. Xhaka will give you a few 3 or 4 very gd games a season, he might even play well tonight. The majority of fans have slated his attitude, you’re in a minority with Xhaka. Answer my question which over top 8 side does he get in? You obviously avoided that. Delusional
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comment by Coutinho's Mirkin - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U22212)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe your players are just crap and have a terrible attitude.
There isn’t a single player in your squad that would go for £40m+!
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Auba, Laca, Pepe for sure. Tho the latter two's form hasn't been good of recent.
My point is there are lots of players crap and have a terrible attitude going for decent price in the market.
posted on 1/1/20
Us giving crap players massive contracts hasn’t helped. No clubs will pay their salaries at the level their on here
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posted on 1/1/20
Why do you value Xhaka at 30+ million when he is rubbish in every single game? Arsenal got rinsed over him and it's a bit weird to expect another club to do the same.
posted on 1/1/20
What are you talking about, we sold Ox and Iwobi for a combined 80m. They've got to be amongst the deals of the century.
posted on 1/1/20
Xhaka isn't worth feck all though. We overpaid big time and rightly won't recoup much (he's no more than a 10-15m player when coupling in the salary you'd need to at least match.
We've not done too badly with sales lately in reality, the ones we struggle to sell are usually because we're horribly overpaying them and they're carp... otherwise we wouldn't want to sell them
posted on 1/1/20
comment by Dubbed the new Arteta (U21076)
posted 13 minutes ago
What are you talking about, we sold Ox and Iwobi for a combined 80m. They've got to be amongst the deals of the century.
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Ox has been good for us.
Selling Solanke for 20m was ridiculous business.
posted on 1/1/20
comment by Coutinho's Mirkin - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U22212)
posted 22 minutes ago
Auba is in the twilight of his career... you won’t get £40m for him.
Lacazette is nothing more than an impact sub
Pepe is a massive flop. Arsenal paid £70m for someone that boosted his figures with penalties in the French league
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Aubameyang would easily go for more than 40 mill. Top 3 highest goalscorer in the PL, marketable name, he would sell shirts. Most of his goals are in the box so he doesn’t rely on his pace. 60-80 mill will def get for him.
posted on 1/1/20
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads... WORLD CHAMPIONS (U3979)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Dubbed the new Arteta (U21076)
posted 13 minutes ago
What are you talking about, we sold Ox and Iwobi for a combined 80m. They've got to be amongst the deals of the century.
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Ox has been good for us.
Selling Solanke for 20m was ridiculous business.
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Exactly, these types of business always happen while and people tout Xhaka for 15 million
The market has changed and become inflated hence ethe player must be sold at a higher price.
posted on 1/1/20
Xhaka is a political animal. Thats an issue for any buying club. Why would any manager take a chance on a player who abused his own fanbase in the middle of a game? So if you ignore that his game has not been suitable for the premier league and many players do well in other countries, so its not uncommon, Xhaka's behaviour on the pitch and in the dressing room means he is a risky buy for any club.
posted on 1/1/20
Money laundering in everything but name.
posted on 1/1/20
The rumours about Xhaka for a loan thereafter a miserly payment of 25 million is ridiculous.
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Brilliant deal. Baffled some team is prepared to pay that for him . Arsenal couldn’t give him away.
posted on 1/1/20
comment by The Power of Now (U20893)
posted 8 minutes ago
The rumours about Xhaka for a loan thereafter a miserly payment of 25 million is ridiculous.
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Brilliant deal. Baffled some team is prepared to pay that for him . Arsenal couldn’t give him away.
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He's the 27-year old captain of a decent international side at the absolute prime of his career.
One man's trash is another's treasure. His value doesn't just disappear because Arsenal don't have a clue on how to get a tune out of him.
posted on 1/1/20
So we pay 35 mil for a player whom the manager puts in the wrong position, bringing errors. Then the fans who allegedly support the team spend 2 years doing nothing but slating him game after game, blaming him for everything, his fault or not. The fan venom pushes the player making him lose it at said fans, causing yet more bad media coverage of the player
Why on earth would you expect to get MORE money than you paid, after that sequence of events? Is it that you don't know what a devalued asset is or just don't get how it applies here? You did answer your own question in your OP.
Yes, it is the fans. Our players (fan satisfaction or not) are the assets in the market you're on about. And our substantial trollbase bottom out the prices for our departing players. You can't expect to buy something, spend years telling everyone its utter sh!t, then be demanding profit when you sell it. Even the footy market ain't THAT crazy.
posted on 1/1/20
Which manager put him in the 'wrong' position?
Arsene Wenger? Emery? Freddie Ljunberg?
He cost points for all 3!
posted on 1/1/20
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 11 minutes ago
So we pay 35 mil for a player whom the manager puts in the wrong position, bringing errors. Then the fans who allegedly support the team spend 2 years doing nothing but slating him game after game, blaming him for everything, his fault or not. The fan venom pushes the player making him lose it at said fans, causing yet more bad media coverage of the player
Why on earth would you expect to get MORE money than you paid, after that sequence of events? Is it that you don't know what a devalued asset is or just don't get how it applies here? You did answer your own question in your OP.
Yes, it is the fans. Our players (fan satisfaction or not) are the assets in the market you're on about. And our substantial trollbase bottom out the prices for our departing players. You can't expect to buy something, spend years telling everyone its utter sh!t, then be demanding profit when you sell it. Even the footy market ain't THAT crazy.
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Oh here we go, we are to blame because we’ve criticised an average player that refuses to better himself. Get a life!.
posted on 1/1/20
Wenger Jenius, others just kept on. Far as I'm concerned until people want to put Ozil at the top of the list for individual player blame at sackings, then naming other players isn't at all fair. Ozil's constant failure to perform year after year is a massive factor in results contributing to job loss. Even given two of the world's best strikers (the excuse people used for him being sh!t before Auba and Laca), he STILL ain't doing a damn thing. But oh no it was all Xhaka's fault they got sacked. Wasn't even mostly his fault, let alone all.
Henry
Went way beyond "criticism" for Xhaka. People even blame/d him for poor results when he plays well. There's fair criticism and there's venomous bile. Xhaka got the latter. As does any Arsenal player, these days, who isn't invincibles good. Gwen is a prime example. He's been brilliant for us, yes errors and hothead, as kids do. But you see clowns on here saying he's sh!t when he puts in a near MoTM performance. Too many trolls at the club and they take player/manager slating to whole new level of foul. Don't know why ya sat giving it "here we go" as though you aren't aware of the aftv Muppet massive, having totally sh!t up the club atmosphere with their constant stream of toxic. Nor why you'd find it difficult to see how a player having to put up with this atmosphere, when he doesn't have to, might just say stuff this and hand in the request.
posted on 1/1/20
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 7 minutes ago
Wenger Jenius, others just kept on. Far as I'm concerned until people want to put Ozil at the top of the list for individual player blame at sackings, then naming other players isn't at all fair. Ozil's constant failure to perform year after year is a massive factor in results contributing to job loss. Even given two of the world's best strikers (the excuse people used for him being sh!t before Auba and Laca), he STILL ain't doing a damn thing. But oh no it was all Xhaka's fault they got sacked. Wasn't even mostly his fault, let alone all.
Henry
Went way beyond "criticism" for Xhaka. People even blame/d him for poor results when he plays well. There's fair criticism and there's venomous bile. Xhaka got the latter. As does any Arsenal player, these days, who isn't invincibles good. Gwen is a prime example. He's been brilliant for us, yes errors and hothead, as kids do. But you see clowns on here saying he's sh!t when he puts in a near MoTM performance. Too many trolls at the club and they take player/manager slating to whole new level of foul. Don't know why ya sat giving it "here we go" as though you aren't aware of the aftv Muppet massive, having totally sh!t up the club atmosphere with their constant stream of toxic. Nor why you'd find it difficult to see how a player having to put up with this atmosphere, when he doesn't have to, might just say stuff this and hand in the request.
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No he was rightly criticised, most of his errors have led to costly goals which have cost us points. This isn’t knee jerk with xhaka, this happens every season and he has never even tried to rectify his game. His attitude has stunk at times. Fans had enough, it came to boiling point when he strolled off the pitch against palace when we needed the points. No the abuse him and his family recieved wasn’t acceptable and that was uncalled for but that was a minority of fans who are stupid. The booing wasn’t knee jerk , this is a player with a terrible attitude.
posted on 1/1/20
Lots of sides that have fallen on leaner times will suffer from reactionary fanbases and their impossible "standards". None of this is especially unique to the Arsenal.
It's just unfortunate for whoever ends up being the scapegoat du jour.
posted on 1/1/20
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 7 minutes ago
Wenger Jenius, others just kept on. Far as I'm concerned until people want to put Ozil at the top of the list for individual player blame at sackings, then naming other players isn't at all fair. Ozil's constant failure to perform year after year is a massive factor in results contributing to job loss. Even given two of the world's best strikers (the excuse people used for him being sh!t before Auba and Laca), he STILL ain't doing a damn thing. But oh no it was all Xhaka's fault they got sacked. Wasn't even mostly his fault, let alone all.
Henry
Went way beyond "criticism" for Xhaka. People even blame/d him for poor results when he plays well. There's fair criticism and there's venomous bile. Xhaka got the latter. As does any Arsenal player, these days, who isn't invincibles good. Gwen is a prime example. He's been brilliant for us, yes errors and hothead, as kids do. But you see clowns on here saying he's sh!t when he puts in a near MoTM performance. Too many trolls at the club and they take player/manager slating to whole new level of foul. Don't know why ya sat giving it "here we go" as though you aren't aware of the aftv Muppet massive, having totally sh!t up the club atmosphere with their constant stream of toxic. Nor why you'd find it difficult to see how a player having to put up with this atmosphere, when he doesn't have to, might just say stuff this and hand in the request.
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No he was rightly criticised, most of his errors have led to costly goals which have cost us points. This isn’t knee jerk with xhaka, this happens every season and he has never even tried to rectify his game. His attitude has stunk at times. Fans had enough, it came to boiling point when he strolled off the pitch against palace when we needed the points. No the abuse him and his family recieved wasn’t acceptable and that was uncalled for but that was a minority of fans who are stupid. The booing wasn’t knee jerk , this is a player with a terrible attitude.
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So where is that same hatred for Ozil? He has been worse than Xhaka (in relative terms) and for longer. Can't be right/fair criticism when you're not dishing it out fairly among ALL responsible. Both have been poor but Xhaka has served the club better than Ozil, for half the money. At least he made an effort ffs, cared enough to try his best in face of pure venom all the time. Unlike Ozil who gets his ass kissed and still CBA to play for you. So why aren't hating Ozil with just as much conviction, when he is more deserving of it?
posted on 1/1/20
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PowerkingHenry27 (U18930)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 7 minutes ago
Wenger Jenius, others just kept on. Far as I'm concerned until people want to put Ozil at the top of the list for individual player blame at sackings, then naming other players isn't at all fair. Ozil's constant failure to perform year after year is a massive factor in results contributing to job loss. Even given two of the world's best strikers (the excuse people used for him being sh!t before Auba and Laca), he STILL ain't doing a damn thing. But oh no it was all Xhaka's fault they got sacked. Wasn't even mostly his fault, let alone all.
Henry
Went way beyond "criticism" for Xhaka. People even blame/d him for poor results when he plays well. There's fair criticism and there's venomous bile. Xhaka got the latter. As does any Arsenal player, these days, who isn't invincibles good. Gwen is a prime example. He's been brilliant for us, yes errors and hothead, as kids do. But you see clowns on here saying he's sh!t when he puts in a near MoTM performance. Too many trolls at the club and they take player/manager slating to whole new level of foul. Don't know why ya sat giving it "here we go" as though you aren't aware of the aftv Muppet massive, having totally sh!t up the club atmosphere with their constant stream of toxic. Nor why you'd find it difficult to see how a player having to put up with this atmosphere, when he doesn't have to, might just say stuff this and hand in the request.
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No he was rightly criticised, most of his errors have led to costly goals which have cost us points. This isn’t knee jerk with xhaka, this happens every season and he has never even tried to rectify his game. His attitude has stunk at times. Fans had enough, it came to boiling point when he strolled off the pitch against palace when we needed the points. No the abuse him and his family recieved wasn’t acceptable and that was uncalled for but that was a minority of fans who are stupid. The booing wasn’t knee jerk , this is a player with a terrible attitude.
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So where is that same hatred for Ozil? He has been worse than Xhaka (in relative terms) and for longer. Can't be right/fair criticism when you're not dishing it out fairly among ALL responsible. Both have been poor but Xhaka has served the club better than Ozil, for half the money. At least he made an effort ffs, cared enough to try his best in face of pure venom all the time. Unlike Ozil who gets his ass kissed and still CBA to play for you. So why aren't hating Ozil with just as much conviction, when he is more deserving of it?
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Where have you been?!. Ozil is massively criticised and blows hot and cold with fans. Lots of fans were calling for him to be sold. Are you serious?!. Ozils attitude is always called into question every season, don’t know what you’re on about. Xhaka has served the club better . What evidence do you base that ridiculous statement on!. They both haven’t given 100% to this club since they arrived. Compare our top 6 rivals including Leicester and pick a side where Xhaka gets in? He doesn’t get in any top 8 team. Hel give you 3 or 4 gd games a season, I’m fed up of his inconsistency and Ozil is the same.
posted on 1/1/20
You must watch different games to me because the games I watch Xhaka gives 100%. As in busts his ass as if he is actually at work getting paid to be there and wants to win the game. You can accuse him of a lot of things but generally, not making a damned effort to play and swanning about doing nothing game in game out, isn't one of them. Ozil has been every bit as poor technically with the added insult that he actually isn't even putting in basic effort.
And no way has there been the same lvl of noise about getting Ozil out of the team. Ffs we had/have fans demanding he play (sure you're one of em). The Chelsea game was a shining beacon of what a Ozil is. Jorginho ain't better than him and shoulda been handed his ass by our alleged superstar playmaker. The man lacks basic competitiveness and the will to win yet most still say he should be played and keep stinking up the CAM position. I don't remember you ever asserting Xhaka should be a starter until we can sell him. Seen you say Ozil should though. Paying more attention to what he's paid than the repeated and escalating damage he does to the team and club around him.
posted on 1/1/20
You’re deluded. You must be a relative or friend of xhaka to think that. As I said where have you been to not have seen the Ozil criticism , seems you just see things to fit your narrative. Xhaka will give you a few 3 or 4 very gd games a season, he might even play well tonight. The majority of fans have slated his attitude, you’re in a minority with Xhaka. Answer my question which over top 8 side does he get in? You obviously avoided that. Delusional
posted on 1/1/20
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