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Time to bring in Poch

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comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
He should have rebuilt the biggest problem area in the team. The fact he didn’t makes his judgement highly questionable. That and signing Harry facking Maguire.
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We don't really know whether that was Ole or Ed's fault.

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 seconds ago
Ole needs the chance to bring in some midfielders before he can be fully judged
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😂

He could have done that in the summer
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Yep, he should have undertaken the club's biggest rebuild in 30 years in one window.

And we have no idea how much his efforts were hampered by Ed's incompetence
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It’s really not that hard or crazy to sign more than 3 players in a summer.
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Tell that to Ed.

Had Pogba been available we'd likely be in 4th spot right now. Martial being out for a long spell didn't help either.
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Ed has been at the club when we signed more than three players in a summer

And Pogba 😂 - the guy clearly doesn’t want to play for us. Stop hanging your hopes on a dud like him

posted on 1/1/20

comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 16 seconds ago
Ever wonder why Real decided against Poch some seasons back and why even Bayern haven't gone in for him.

Your clamour for Poch is as if the guy is Pep on steriods or a young Ariiggo Sachi.

missing out on Poch is not the end of the world.
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Just masons and Nobbs.

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 1/1/20

It would probably help if Ole had a good quality modern coach on his staff. The current setup doesn't look great.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/1/20

comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 11 seconds ago
Ever wonder why Real decided against Poch some seasons back and why even Bayern haven't gone in for him.

Your clamour for Poch is as if the guy is Pep on steriods or a young Ariiggo Sachi.

missing out on Poch is not the end of the world.
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I don't dislike Poch, but he still hasn't won anything. No guarantee he would at United.

posted on 1/1/20

Both are culpable.

posted on 1/1/20

"Had Pogba been available we'd likely be in 4th spot right now. Martial being out for a long spell didn't help either."

If no one is moving off the ball then it doesn't matter how good Pogba is, he's not fixing that issue by himself.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 seconds ago
Ole needs the chance to bring in some midfielders before he can be fully judged
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😂

He could have done that in the summer
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yep, he should have undertaken the club's biggest rebuild in 30 years in one window.

And we have no idea how much his efforts were hampered by Ed's incompetence
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s really not that hard or crazy to sign more than 3 players in a summer.
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Tell that to Ed.

Had Pogba been available we'd likely be in 4th spot right now. Martial being out for a long spell didn't help either.
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Ed has been at the club when we signed more than three players in a summer

And Pogba 😂 - the guy clearly doesn’t want to play for us. Stop hanging your hopes on a dud like him
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I'm not hanging any hopes on your beloved. But despite his shortcomings we would have won more points with him in the team.

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 11 seconds ago
Ever wonder why Real decided against Poch some seasons back and why even Bayern haven't gone in for him.

Your clamour for Poch is as if the guy is Pep on steriods or a young Ariiggo Sachi.

missing out on Poch is not the end of the world.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't dislike Poch, but he still hasn't won anything. No guarantee he would at United.
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He’s shown that he can get the best out of players which Ole clearly isn’t showing

We don’t need to be too concerned with winning titles anytime soon. What we do need is a manager who can turn water into wine and then see what happens

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 11 seconds ago
Ever wonder why Real decided against Poch some seasons back and why even Bayern haven't gone in for him.

Your clamour for Poch is as if the guy is Pep on steriods or a young Ariiggo Sachi.

missing out on Poch is not the end of the world.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't dislike Poch, but he still hasn't won anything. No guarantee he would at United.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s shown that he can get the best out of players which Ole clearly isn’t showing

We don’t need to be too concerned with winning titles anytime soon. What we do need is a manager who can turn water into wine and then see what happens
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What we need is a manager that can coach a young team, and recruit well.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 3 seconds ago
"Had Pogba been available we'd likely be in 4th spot right now. Martial being out for a long spell didn't help either."

If no one is moving off the ball then it doesn't matter how good Pogba is, he's not fixing that issue by himself.
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I counted at least 4 moments in the game where we were on the edge of the box and a decent ball would have created a great chance, but the pass was messed up. Also Rashford made several runs throughout the game that weren't seen and which Pogba would have spotted.

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 3 seconds ago
"Had Pogba been available we'd likely be in 4th spot right now. Martial being out for a long spell didn't help either."

If no one is moving off the ball then it doesn't matter how good Pogba is, he's not fixing that issue by himself.
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I counted at least 4 moments in the game where we were on the edge of the box and a decent ball would have created a great chance, but the pass was messed up. Also Rashford made several runs throughout the game that weren't seen and which Pogba would have spotted.
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If you saw them the fair enough Elvis, i watched it and thought your movement was non existent.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 11 seconds ago
Ever wonder why Real decided against Poch some seasons back and why even Bayern haven't gone in for him.

Your clamour for Poch is as if the guy is Pep on steriods or a young Ariiggo Sachi.

missing out on Poch is not the end of the world.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't dislike Poch, but he still hasn't won anything. No guarantee he would at United.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s shown that he can get the best out of players which Ole clearly isn’t showing

We don’t need to be too concerned with winning titles anytime soon. What we do need is a manager who can turn water into wine and then see what happens
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly how good do you think this squad is then? Considering we have been missing Pogba all season. 4th best in the league? 3rd best?

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 3 seconds ago
"Had Pogba been available we'd likely be in 4th spot right now. Martial being out for a long spell didn't help either."

If no one is moving off the ball then it doesn't matter how good Pogba is, he's not fixing that issue by himself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I counted at least 4 moments in the game where we were on the edge of the box and a decent ball would have created a great chance, but the pass was messed up. Also Rashford made several runs throughout the game that weren't seen and which Pogba would have spotted.
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We have an incredible lack of passing ability in this team. No one other than pogba has the confidence/ability to make those key passes.

posted on 1/1/20

Our forward do have an issue with their movement, but it has been getting better. Mata is one who is good at these but just lacks the speed to do it.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Techno (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 11 seconds ago
Ever wonder why Real decided against Poch some seasons back and why even Bayern haven't gone in for him.

Your clamour for Poch is as if the guy is Pep on steriods or a young Ariiggo Sachi.

missing out on Poch is not the end of the world.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't dislike Poch, but he still hasn't won anything. No guarantee he would at United.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s shown that he can get the best out of players which Ole clearly isn’t showing

We don’t need to be too concerned with winning titles anytime soon. What we do need is a manager who can turn water into wine and then see what happens
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What we need is a manager that can coach a young team, and recruit well.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is exactly what Ole did at Molde. He also coached our youth team.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 3 seconds ago
"Had Pogba been available we'd likely be in 4th spot right now. Martial being out for a long spell didn't help either."

If no one is moving off the ball then it doesn't matter how good Pogba is, he's not fixing that issue by himself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I counted at least 4 moments in the game where we were on the edge of the box and a decent ball would have created a great chance, but the pass was messed up. Also Rashford made several runs throughout the game that weren't seen and which Pogba would have spotted.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you saw them the fair enough Elvis, i watched it and thought your movement was non existent.
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Even the commentators were talking about how many good runs rashford had made and which hadn't been spotted. We are just lacking any real creativity in midfield

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 11 seconds ago
Ever wonder why Real decided against Poch some seasons back and why even Bayern haven't gone in for him.

Your clamour for Poch is as if the guy is Pep on steriods or a young Ariiggo Sachi.

missing out on Poch is not the end of the world.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't dislike Poch, but he still hasn't won anything. No guarantee he would at United.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s shown that he can get the best out of players which Ole clearly isn’t showing

We don’t need to be too concerned with winning titles anytime soon. What we do need is a manager who can turn water into wine and then see what happens
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly how good do you think this squad is then? Considering we have been missing Pogba all season. 4th best in the league? 3rd best?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You have a short memory as to how was being misused by Ole when he was fit. Please don’t forget what a poor use of Pogba there was back before Pogba decided to take a holiday

As to what position in the table we should be, it’s hard to say considering how poor the league has been this season underneath Liverpool and to an extent Leicester

But we are better than our results have shown in terms of what our squad should be doing.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/1/20

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
Our forward do have an issue with their movement, but it has been getting better. Mata is one who is good at these but just lacks the speed to do it.
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I think that if you have a player or two in the midfield that can make a pass then your forwards are likely to make more runs.

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Techno (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 11 seconds ago
Ever wonder why Real decided against Poch some seasons back and why even Bayern haven't gone in for him.

Your clamour for Poch is as if the guy is Pep on steriods or a young Ariiggo Sachi.

missing out on Poch is not the end of the world.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't dislike Poch, but he still hasn't won anything. No guarantee he would at United.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s shown that he can get the best out of players which Ole clearly isn’t showing

We don’t need to be too concerned with winning titles anytime soon. What we do need is a manager who can turn water into wine and then see what happens
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What we need is a manager that can coach a young team, and recruit well.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is exactly what Ole did at Molde. He also coached our youth team.
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I was referring to coaching technical ability, pass and move, making the right pass, etc.

We have fallen behind other teams in this. Even some lower teams are better at it.

posted on 1/1/20

Poch is obviously a much more suitable manager for United than Ole. I don’t think that’s up for debate. But I don’t think that means we’ll sack Ole now and appoint Poch. We’d have done it already if that was an option.

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 3 seconds ago
"Had Pogba been available we'd likely be in 4th spot right now. Martial being out for a long spell didn't help either."

If no one is moving off the ball then it doesn't matter how good Pogba is, he's not fixing that issue by himself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I counted at least 4 moments in the game where we were on the edge of the box and a decent ball would have created a great chance, but the pass was messed up. Also Rashford made several runs throughout the game that weren't seen and which Pogba would have spotted.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you saw them the fair enough Elvis, i watched it and thought your movement was non existent.
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Even the commentators were talking about how many good runs rashford had made and which hadn't been spotted. We are just lacking any real creativity in midfield

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Fair enough, I didn't see them myself but i'll take your word for it.

You guys need to do something about your fullbacks offering something going forward though, particularly Shaw. At least AWB occasionally knocks in a good cross and makes a good run now and then, Shaw doesn't even attempt to overlap his winger.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 11 seconds ago
Ever wonder why Real decided against Poch some seasons back and why even Bayern haven't gone in for him.

Your clamour for Poch is as if the guy is Pep on steriods or a young Ariiggo Sachi.

missing out on Poch is not the end of the world.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't dislike Poch, but he still hasn't won anything. No guarantee he would at United.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s shown that he can get the best out of players which Ole clearly isn’t showing

We don’t need to be too concerned with winning titles anytime soon. What we do need is a manager who can turn water into wine and then see what happens
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly how good do you think this squad is then? Considering we have been missing Pogba all season. 4th best in the league? 3rd best?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You have a short memory as to how was being misused by Ole when he was fit. Please don’t forget what a poor use of Pogba there was back before Pogba decided to take a holiday

As to what position in the table we should be, it’s hard to say considering how poor the league has been this season underneath Liverpool and to an extent Leicester

But we are better than our results have shown in terms of what our squad should be doing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Way to avoid the question. At best we should be one place higher for me based on this squad. We possibly have a better squad than Chelsea.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Poch is obviously a much more suitable manager for United than Ole. I don’t think that’s up for debate. But I don’t think that means we’ll sack Ole now and appoint Poch. We’d have done it already if that was an option.
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Of course it is up for debate. Otherwise everyone would be agreeing with you.

posted on 1/1/20

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 11 seconds ago
Ever wonder why Real decided against Poch some seasons back and why even Bayern haven't gone in for him.

Your clamour for Poch is as if the guy is Pep on steriods or a young Ariiggo Sachi.

missing out on Poch is not the end of the world.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't dislike Poch, but he still hasn't won anything. No guarantee he would at United.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s shown that he can get the best out of players which Ole clearly isn’t showing

We don’t need to be too concerned with winning titles anytime soon. What we do need is a manager who can turn water into wine and then see what happens
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly how good do you think this squad is then? Considering we have been missing Pogba all season. 4th best in the league? 3rd best?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You have a short memory as to how was being misused by Ole when he was fit. Please don’t forget what a poor use of Pogba there was back before Pogba decided to take a holiday

As to what position in the table we should be, it’s hard to say considering how poor the league has been this season underneath Liverpool and to an extent Leicester

But we are better than our results have shown in terms of what our squad should be doing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Way to avoid the question. At best we should be one place higher for me based on this squad. We possibly have a better squad than Chelsea.
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It’s not just about league placing though

There’s an argument to say that we’re where we are because so many sides have actually been as poor as us.

It’s about what we’re seeing on the pitch and it’s a joke.

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