Twice as long at the helm as Alan Sugar with Spurs but Levy has overseen the same amount of silverware, even though we've had much better managers in that time.
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you (U7905)
posted 2 minutes ago
Levy and ENIC are the real culprits. We are honestly completely facked until they leave. Don't see us getting back in the champions league again under them.
Jose is a dreadful choice for this situation. Even with a blank cheque book he couldn't build anything at United.
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I don't know how Levy and ENIC could have been expected to predict that Rose, Kane, Eriksen, Dele, Verts, Toby and Dier would regress at such great speed. Then throw in that Son is always suspended or playing in the Asian origami games and Lamela is never fit and you have yourself a situation.
On paper our 3 summer signings looked good players and many supporters rejoiced at the Trips sale because they wanted KWP given a chance at right back.
Of course mistakes have been made but going into this season most pundits and alot of our supporters thought we had the third best squad in the Prem.
Our squad has gone stale, we have had a squad of very good players and many of them have been here throughout their best years and achieved nothing. They were probably told a tale by Levy about how the club was focused on reaching glory, but the dream failed to materialize, which has left us with players feeling disillusioned and no longer giving a shiete.
Add to that, the failure to once again invest properly in the squad and to convince our players the club is serious about its ambition, its probably left many of our longest serving players with a feeling of "whats the point"? We have been a top 6 club making bottom 6 levels of investment in the team.
Levy and the club have let many of these players down, they stayed loyal to Spurs when they could have gone elsewhere for more money, they believed in the project, but the club were not prepared to take the final step. It`s why I don`t blame Eriksen for wanting out, he`s given us years of good service but has seen chances to genuinely kick on squandered by the board. He knows he won`t win trophies with Spurs, so may as well go elsewhere to win them. The same will apply to others unless things change, Kane for example will be one of the next looking for the exit.
Many players maybe feel like they have hit a brick wall with Spurs and years of being nearly men has taken its toll.
It all points to a stale squad and failure to freshen things up regularly enough is coming back to bite us where it hurts
So many things have gone stagnant, and so many things need repairing, it is going to take around £200m and a large turnaround of players just to make us competitive again...... Levy are you listening!
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posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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There's no point trying to make out that Levy only cares about CL in terms of money. We all know it has a much bigger impact in terms of attracting/keeping top players.
Will Levy spend 'correctly' in future? Who knows. Even the best in the business only get around 50% of transfers right. We all know he's tight but he's also shown willing to spend.
I'm not trying to sit here and say Levy is perfect because of the stadium or whatever, obviously he's made mistakes. But no-one is perfect. Short of oil barons and oligarchs any owner we replace ENIC with would be similar imo.
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Willingness to spend when? Only when we've sold players and used those fees. But that's replacing and not adding. They've also been at terrible times instead of taking advantage of the peak and pushing it to next level.
Investing when we are 2nd to go 1st is totally different to letting us decline to 6th and then spending to get 4th.
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
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comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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There's no point trying to make out that Levy only cares about CL in terms of money. We all know it has a much bigger impact in terms of attracting/keeping top players.
Will Levy spend 'correctly' in future? Who knows. Even the best in the business only get around 50% of transfers right. We all know he's tight but he's also shown willing to spend.
I'm not trying to sit here and say Levy is perfect because of the stadium or whatever, obviously he's made mistakes. But no-one is perfect. Short of oil barons and oligarchs any owner we replace ENIC with would be similar imo.
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Willingness to spend when? Only when we've sold players and used those fees. But that's replacing and not adding. They've also been at terrible times instead of taking advantage of the peak and pushing it to next level.
Investing when we are 2nd to go 1st is totally different to letting us decline to 6th and then spending to get 4th.
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We've got a negative net spend under Levy. Granted, it's not all of the profits, and I agree - we should have looked to buy from a position of strength rather than desperation.
Honestly though, I can't help feeling Poch is at least partly to blame for the state of the squad right now. Obviously that's an unpopular opinion, but Levy did give him a lot of say in transfers. Was it enough? Too much? Who knows. We do know they parted amicably. Levy even let him keep the Bentley
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comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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There's no point trying to make out that Levy only cares about CL in terms of money. We all know it has a much bigger impact in terms of attracting/keeping top players.
Will Levy spend 'correctly' in future? Who knows. Even the best in the business only get around 50% of transfers right. We all know he's tight but he's also shown willing to spend.
I'm not trying to sit here and say Levy is perfect because of the stadium or whatever, obviously he's made mistakes. But no-one is perfect. Short of oil barons and oligarchs any owner we replace ENIC with would be similar imo.
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Willingness to spend when? Only when we've sold players and used those fees. But that's replacing and not adding. They've also been at terrible times instead of taking advantage of the peak and pushing it to next level.
Investing when we are 2nd to go 1st is totally different to letting us decline to 6th and then spending to get 4th.
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We've got a negative net spend under Levy. Granted, it's not all of the profits, and I agree - we should have looked to buy from a position of strength rather than desperation.
Honestly though, I can't help feeling Poch is at least partly to blame for the state of the squad right now. Obviously that's an unpopular opinion, but Levy did give him a lot of say in transfers. Was it enough? Too much? Who knows. We do know they parted amicably. Levy even let him keep the Bentley
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Poch said we needed a rebuild for the last two years. He wanted to sell Rose and Toby even when the rest of us thought they were still in their prime.
The only thing I blame poch for is falling out with walker.
Giving a manager power in transfers but then telling him you can only spend this much and not always a player he wants is not really giving him power at all.
It's basically telling him "pick your poison". This happened before when Levy brought in Saha and Nelson. Again when AVB wanted Willian, Oscar, Moutinho, Leandro and got none of them. With Pochettino this time no doubt as well.
Its a recurring theme. You'd be blind to believe a manager is given lots of funds at Spurs and even more so believing a manager wouldnt want to use it to make his job easier and achieve something.
Pochettino IMO would rather have gone without a transfer than have to select between a choice of mediocrity offered to him and taking blame when they fail and "Levy backed him"
It's fair to say Poch didn't get all the players he wanted.
I think it's also fair to say that there's not many clubs in world football where that'd be a reality for him.
I find those who exonerate Poch on a par with those Labour mp's and journalists who refuse to accept that Corbyn was unelectable. The level of the denial is staggering!
How can a manager who oversaw so many players go backwards be free from blame? I'm not at all sure whether we've brought in the correct replacement but he ceratinly deserved the sack.
ENIC have invested heavily into the club.... the issue is that the investment has come off the pitch and around the club as a whole, rather than on the pitch..... so what we now have is a crap team, but facilities and probably global profile that set us up for the next 100 years...
with the above in mind it is probably short termist to look on the current situation as a disaster, but i do wonder if a better balance could have been struck allocating funds to the team even if this meant a slightly slower growth and development off the pitch...
due to the quite remarkable uplift in the infrastructure around the club, it is nonsense to say that ENIC don't invest...... but most fans would have preferred to see more investment in the playing staff.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 35 minutes ago
I find those who exonerate Poch on a par with those Labour mp's and journalists who refuse to accept that Corbyn was unelectable. The level of the denial is staggering!
How can a manager who oversaw so many players go backwards be free from blame? I'm not at all sure whether we've brought in the correct replacement but he ceratinly deserved the sack.
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Excellent user name mate but that's a terrible analogy.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 37 minutes ago
I find those who exonerate Poch on a par with those Labour mp's and journalists who refuse to accept that Corbyn was unelectable. The level of the denial is staggering!
How can a manager who oversaw so many players go backwards be free from blame? I'm not at all sure whether we've brought in the correct replacement but he ceratinly deserved the sack.
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Poch has to take his fair share of the blame.... there were too many mistakes that he made, from team selections, to substitutions timings and choice of player, to his poor comments in the media and general poor demeanour..... even if your boss is pissssing you off, you need to stay professional infront of the cameras....
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comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
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posted 43 seconds ago
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posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
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Exactly Chronic.
Some posters on here love Poch so much that they just can't see the wood for the trees.
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comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
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We did the minimum that was required even though they was top players.
What we are seeing atm is the lack of activity for the 18 months beforehand.
Whether that was poch or levy fault everyone will pick their side according to what agenda they have.
its clear we needed full backs... but if you bring in to many then you get the classic comparison to the summer we brought in 7 and couldn't gel into a good team due to too many changes......
i reckon for the next few windows we need to be bringing 3-4 players in each time and get rid of the dead wood.
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posted 12 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 35 minutes ago
I find those who exonerate Poch on a par with those Labour mp's and journalists who refuse to accept that Corbyn was unelectable. The level of the denial is staggering!
How can a manager who oversaw so many players go backwards be free from blame? I'm not at all sure whether we've brought in the correct replacement but he ceratinly deserved the sack.
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Excellent user name mate but that's a terrible analogy.
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The 4th best nightclub in Hull.
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comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
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We did the minimum that was required even though they was top players.
What we are seeing atm is the lack of activity for the 18 months beforehand.
Whether that was poch or levy fault everyone will pick their side according to what agenda they have.
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Instead of picking sides and calling for heads how about we act like adults and apportion responsibility to everyone involved. As much as Levy is a handy target he's not a scout or even particularly hands-on in negotiations.
Poch was brilliant for us, and probably did deserve a bit more money behind him earlier. His picks weren't always great, though. Foyth, i'm looking at you saan.
Results on the pitch will always result in the manger going. It's certainly easier than sacking the board or squad.
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comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
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We did the minimum that was required even though they was top players.
What we are seeing atm is the lack of activity for the 18 months beforehand.
Whether that was poch or levy fault everyone will pick their side according to what agenda they have.
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Instead of picking sides and calling for heads how about we act like adults and apportion responsibility to everyone involved. As much as Levy is a handy target he's not a scout or even particularly hands-on in negotiations.
Poch was brilliant for us, and probably did deserve a bit more money behind him earlier. His picks weren't always great, though. Foyth, i'm looking at you saan.
Results on the pitch will always result in the manger going. It's certainly easier than sacking the board or squad.
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I’m pretty certain he’s very hands on in negotiations.
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comment by Bales (U22081)
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Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
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We did the minimum that was required even though they was top players.
What we are seeing atm is the lack of activity for the 18 months beforehand.
Whether that was poch or levy fault everyone will pick their side according to what agenda they have.
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Instead of picking sides and calling for heads how about we act like adults and apportion responsibility to everyone involved. As much as Levy is a handy target he's not a scout or even particularly hands-on in negotiations.
Poch was brilliant for us, and probably did deserve a bit more money behind him earlier. His picks weren't always great, though. Foyth, i'm looking at you saan.
Results on the pitch will always result in the manger going. It's certainly easier than sacking the board or squad.
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I’m pretty certain he’s very hands on in negotiations.
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I thought he was in Miami at the end of the window when we were getting our business done.
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comment by Bales (U22081)
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Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
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We did the minimum that was required even though they was top players.
What we are seeing atm is the lack of activity for the 18 months beforehand.
Whether that was poch or levy fault everyone will pick their side according to what agenda they have.
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Instead of picking sides and calling for heads how about we act like adults and apportion responsibility to everyone involved. As much as Levy is a handy target he's not a scout or even particularly hands-on in negotiations.
Poch was brilliant for us, and probably did deserve a bit more money behind him earlier. His picks weren't always great, though. Foyth, i'm looking at you saan.
Results on the pitch will always result in the manger going. It's certainly easier than sacking the board or squad.
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I’m pretty certain he’s very hands on in negotiations.
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I thought he was in Miami at the end of the window when we were getting our business done.
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You think all the negotiating is happening at lilywhite house?
Going by what the Lyon ceo and Pretty much everyone else in the business it’s levy who deals with everything on the buying and selling of players
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comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 35 minutes ago
I find those who exonerate Poch on a par with those Labour mp's and journalists who refuse to accept that Corbyn was unelectable. The level of the denial is staggering!
How can a manager who oversaw so many players go backwards be free from blame? I'm not at all sure whether we've brought in the correct replacement but he ceratinly deserved the sack.
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Excellent user name mate but that's a terrible analogy.
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The 4th best nightclub in Hull.
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"...it could just be rats"
Anyway, never forget that whoever has the press, Google, the BBC, and the richest people in the country behind them is electable whether or not they're the last person on earth fit to hold office - just look at Boris Johnson.
But back to the matter in hand; Poch was mentally-shot unfortunately and obviously could no longer motivate the players. But he should at least have been given until the end of the season (if the club's financial situation is such that a season out of the CL is catastrophic enough to cause Levy to panic in that manner then maybe Levy hasn't got all his bases covered after all).
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
ENIC have invested heavily into the club.... the issue is that the investment has come off the pitch and around the club as a whole, rather than on the pitch..... so what we now have is a crap team, but facilities and probably global profile that set us up for the next 100 years...
with the above in mind it is probably short termist to look on the current situation as a disaster, but i do wonder if a better balance could have been struck allocating funds to the team even if this meant a slightly slower growth and development off the pitch...
due to the quite remarkable uplift in the infrastructure around the club, it is nonsense to say that ENIC don't invest...... but most fans would have preferred to see more investment in the playing staff.
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Set us up for the next 100 years is not a guarantee. In a few years time our stadium will be above average but not as glamorous as it currently is. Clubs will build better or improve on their current ones.
The revenue from extra season tickets etc. is not going to be the game changer here. Our net spend has been atrocious during ENICs tenure (and historically).
The problem hasn't even been us not matching Man City et co. It's been consecutively poor decisions from Levy to not support our managers when they've shown progress.
Redknapp didn't get the extra two or three quality players needed. Pochettino in an even better position didn't. Looking at this summer of Ndombele, Lo Celso and Sessegnon is pointless.
Firstly, the damage was done. Secondly, it was nowhere near what was required. On top of those signings we needed proper full backs and a striker.
We now (yet again) have no proper striker available.
Not on a wind up here but the difference between Leicester and Spurs at the moment is quite remarkable and illustrates just how poorly run Spurs are as a football club and how lucky we are to have our owners.
We've had a few seasons of rebuilding, moving on older players, selling a few of our stand out players from the 2015/16 season and now with the exception of Schmeichel and Vardy, have a completely different team and style of football. Our rejuvenation also cost relatively little too and we are developing into a team that could and should be around the top of the league for several seasons to come, providing our best players don't get picked off again of course and we continue to strengthen, which is highly likely given our ambition to cement ourselves towards the top of the league.
Evans, Soyuncu, Ricardo, Ndidi, Maddison, Tielemans Praet, Perez and Iheanacho cost us £197.5m and we sold Kante, Drinky, Mahrez and Maguire for £220m. On top of that we've brought through Chilwell, Choudhury and Barnes from our academy.
There is no excuse for Spurs not being able to do what we've done because you're a bigger club, have more money, a bigger stadium and then there's the draw of London. I think it's fair to blame Levy for the fact that you've become stale with disillusioned players. I think the lack of ambition rubbed off on to Poch and the rest of the squad and that's why you find yourselves in the position you're currently in.
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 7 hours, 34 minutes ago
ENIC have invested heavily into the club.... the issue is that the investment has come off the pitch and around the club as a whole, rather than on the pitch..... so what we now have is a crap team, but facilities and probably global profile that set us up for the next 100 years...
with the above in mind it is probably short termist to look on the current situation as a disaster, but i do wonder if a better balance could have been struck allocating funds to the team even if this meant a slightly slower growth and development off the pitch...
due to the quite remarkable uplift in the infrastructure around the club, it is nonsense to say that ENIC don't invest...... but most fans would have preferred to see more investment in the playing staff.
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Disagree that they have invested that much. The stadium has mainly been funded through debt and 10 years of transfer kitties. The additional unexpected champions league income went straight back into the stadium.
They haven't invested their own money. If they were interested in the football club's success on the pitch they would have invested more of ENIC's money into the stadium and not hamstring the club with a lack of transfers/wages.
From ENIC's perspective they have done a wonderful job. Bought us for £80m and we're probably worth £2bn now. From a fan's perspective they have delivered us a great stadium but not delivered much on the pitch.
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posted on 2/1/20
Twice as long at the helm as Alan Sugar with Spurs but Levy has overseen the same amount of silverware, even though we've had much better managers in that time.
posted on 2/1/20
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you (U7905)
posted 2 minutes ago
Levy and ENIC are the real culprits. We are honestly completely facked until they leave. Don't see us getting back in the champions league again under them.
Jose is a dreadful choice for this situation. Even with a blank cheque book he couldn't build anything at United.
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I don't know how Levy and ENIC could have been expected to predict that Rose, Kane, Eriksen, Dele, Verts, Toby and Dier would regress at such great speed. Then throw in that Son is always suspended or playing in the Asian origami games and Lamela is never fit and you have yourself a situation.
On paper our 3 summer signings looked good players and many supporters rejoiced at the Trips sale because they wanted KWP given a chance at right back.
Of course mistakes have been made but going into this season most pundits and alot of our supporters thought we had the third best squad in the Prem.
posted on 2/1/20
Our squad has gone stale, we have had a squad of very good players and many of them have been here throughout their best years and achieved nothing. They were probably told a tale by Levy about how the club was focused on reaching glory, but the dream failed to materialize, which has left us with players feeling disillusioned and no longer giving a shiete.
Add to that, the failure to once again invest properly in the squad and to convince our players the club is serious about its ambition, its probably left many of our longest serving players with a feeling of "whats the point"? We have been a top 6 club making bottom 6 levels of investment in the team.
Levy and the club have let many of these players down, they stayed loyal to Spurs when they could have gone elsewhere for more money, they believed in the project, but the club were not prepared to take the final step. It`s why I don`t blame Eriksen for wanting out, he`s given us years of good service but has seen chances to genuinely kick on squandered by the board. He knows he won`t win trophies with Spurs, so may as well go elsewhere to win them. The same will apply to others unless things change, Kane for example will be one of the next looking for the exit.
Many players maybe feel like they have hit a brick wall with Spurs and years of being nearly men has taken its toll.
It all points to a stale squad and failure to freshen things up regularly enough is coming back to bite us where it hurts
So many things have gone stagnant, and so many things need repairing, it is going to take around £200m and a large turnaround of players just to make us competitive again...... Levy are you listening!
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posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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There's no point trying to make out that Levy only cares about CL in terms of money. We all know it has a much bigger impact in terms of attracting/keeping top players.
Will Levy spend 'correctly' in future? Who knows. Even the best in the business only get around 50% of transfers right. We all know he's tight but he's also shown willing to spend.
I'm not trying to sit here and say Levy is perfect because of the stadium or whatever, obviously he's made mistakes. But no-one is perfect. Short of oil barons and oligarchs any owner we replace ENIC with would be similar imo.
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Willingness to spend when? Only when we've sold players and used those fees. But that's replacing and not adding. They've also been at terrible times instead of taking advantage of the peak and pushing it to next level.
Investing when we are 2nd to go 1st is totally different to letting us decline to 6th and then spending to get 4th.
posted on 2/1/20
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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There's no point trying to make out that Levy only cares about CL in terms of money. We all know it has a much bigger impact in terms of attracting/keeping top players.
Will Levy spend 'correctly' in future? Who knows. Even the best in the business only get around 50% of transfers right. We all know he's tight but he's also shown willing to spend.
I'm not trying to sit here and say Levy is perfect because of the stadium or whatever, obviously he's made mistakes. But no-one is perfect. Short of oil barons and oligarchs any owner we replace ENIC with would be similar imo.
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Willingness to spend when? Only when we've sold players and used those fees. But that's replacing and not adding. They've also been at terrible times instead of taking advantage of the peak and pushing it to next level.
Investing when we are 2nd to go 1st is totally different to letting us decline to 6th and then spending to get 4th.
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We've got a negative net spend under Levy. Granted, it's not all of the profits, and I agree - we should have looked to buy from a position of strength rather than desperation.
Honestly though, I can't help feeling Poch is at least partly to blame for the state of the squad right now. Obviously that's an unpopular opinion, but Levy did give him a lot of say in transfers. Was it enough? Too much? Who knows. We do know they parted amicably. Levy even let him keep the Bentley
posted on 2/1/20
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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There's no point trying to make out that Levy only cares about CL in terms of money. We all know it has a much bigger impact in terms of attracting/keeping top players.
Will Levy spend 'correctly' in future? Who knows. Even the best in the business only get around 50% of transfers right. We all know he's tight but he's also shown willing to spend.
I'm not trying to sit here and say Levy is perfect because of the stadium or whatever, obviously he's made mistakes. But no-one is perfect. Short of oil barons and oligarchs any owner we replace ENIC with would be similar imo.
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Willingness to spend when? Only when we've sold players and used those fees. But that's replacing and not adding. They've also been at terrible times instead of taking advantage of the peak and pushing it to next level.
Investing when we are 2nd to go 1st is totally different to letting us decline to 6th and then spending to get 4th.
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We've got a negative net spend under Levy. Granted, it's not all of the profits, and I agree - we should have looked to buy from a position of strength rather than desperation.
Honestly though, I can't help feeling Poch is at least partly to blame for the state of the squad right now. Obviously that's an unpopular opinion, but Levy did give him a lot of say in transfers. Was it enough? Too much? Who knows. We do know they parted amicably. Levy even let him keep the Bentley
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Poch said we needed a rebuild for the last two years. He wanted to sell Rose and Toby even when the rest of us thought they were still in their prime.
The only thing I blame poch for is falling out with walker.
posted on 2/1/20
Giving a manager power in transfers but then telling him you can only spend this much and not always a player he wants is not really giving him power at all.
It's basically telling him "pick your poison". This happened before when Levy brought in Saha and Nelson. Again when AVB wanted Willian, Oscar, Moutinho, Leandro and got none of them. With Pochettino this time no doubt as well.
Its a recurring theme. You'd be blind to believe a manager is given lots of funds at Spurs and even more so believing a manager wouldnt want to use it to make his job easier and achieve something.
Pochettino IMO would rather have gone without a transfer than have to select between a choice of mediocrity offered to him and taking blame when they fail and "Levy backed him"
posted on 2/1/20
It's fair to say Poch didn't get all the players he wanted.
I think it's also fair to say that there's not many clubs in world football where that'd be a reality for him.
posted on 2/1/20
I find those who exonerate Poch on a par with those Labour mp's and journalists who refuse to accept that Corbyn was unelectable. The level of the denial is staggering!
How can a manager who oversaw so many players go backwards be free from blame? I'm not at all sure whether we've brought in the correct replacement but he ceratinly deserved the sack.
posted on 2/1/20
ENIC have invested heavily into the club.... the issue is that the investment has come off the pitch and around the club as a whole, rather than on the pitch..... so what we now have is a crap team, but facilities and probably global profile that set us up for the next 100 years...
with the above in mind it is probably short termist to look on the current situation as a disaster, but i do wonder if a better balance could have been struck allocating funds to the team even if this meant a slightly slower growth and development off the pitch...
due to the quite remarkable uplift in the infrastructure around the club, it is nonsense to say that ENIC don't invest...... but most fans would have preferred to see more investment in the playing staff.
posted on 2/1/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 35 minutes ago
I find those who exonerate Poch on a par with those Labour mp's and journalists who refuse to accept that Corbyn was unelectable. The level of the denial is staggering!
How can a manager who oversaw so many players go backwards be free from blame? I'm not at all sure whether we've brought in the correct replacement but he ceratinly deserved the sack.
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Excellent user name mate but that's a terrible analogy.
posted on 2/1/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 37 minutes ago
I find those who exonerate Poch on a par with those Labour mp's and journalists who refuse to accept that Corbyn was unelectable. The level of the denial is staggering!
How can a manager who oversaw so many players go backwards be free from blame? I'm not at all sure whether we've brought in the correct replacement but he ceratinly deserved the sack.
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Poch has to take his fair share of the blame.... there were too many mistakes that he made, from team selections, to substitutions timings and choice of player, to his poor comments in the media and general poor demeanour..... even if your boss is pissssing you off, you need to stay professional infront of the cameras....
posted on 2/1/20
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
posted on 2/1/20
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
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Exactly Chronic.
Some posters on here love Poch so much that they just can't see the wood for the trees.
posted on 2/1/20
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
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We did the minimum that was required even though they was top players.
What we are seeing atm is the lack of activity for the 18 months beforehand.
Whether that was poch or levy fault everyone will pick their side according to what agenda they have.
posted on 2/1/20
its clear we needed full backs... but if you bring in to many then you get the classic comparison to the summer we brought in 7 and couldn't gel into a good team due to too many changes......
i reckon for the next few windows we need to be bringing 3-4 players in each time and get rid of the dead wood.
posted on 3/1/20
comment by Fireside Favourites (U22293)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 35 minutes ago
I find those who exonerate Poch on a par with those Labour mp's and journalists who refuse to accept that Corbyn was unelectable. The level of the denial is staggering!
How can a manager who oversaw so many players go backwards be free from blame? I'm not at all sure whether we've brought in the correct replacement but he ceratinly deserved the sack.
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Excellent user name mate but that's a terrible analogy.
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The 4th best nightclub in Hull.
posted on 3/1/20
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
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We did the minimum that was required even though they was top players.
What we are seeing atm is the lack of activity for the 18 months beforehand.
Whether that was poch or levy fault everyone will pick their side according to what agenda they have.
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Instead of picking sides and calling for heads how about we act like adults and apportion responsibility to everyone involved. As much as Levy is a handy target he's not a scout or even particularly hands-on in negotiations.
Poch was brilliant for us, and probably did deserve a bit more money behind him earlier. His picks weren't always great, though. Foyth, i'm looking at you saan.
Results on the pitch will always result in the manger going. It's certainly easier than sacking the board or squad.
posted on 3/1/20
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
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We did the minimum that was required even though they was top players.
What we are seeing atm is the lack of activity for the 18 months beforehand.
Whether that was poch or levy fault everyone will pick their side according to what agenda they have.
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Instead of picking sides and calling for heads how about we act like adults and apportion responsibility to everyone involved. As much as Levy is a handy target he's not a scout or even particularly hands-on in negotiations.
Poch was brilliant for us, and probably did deserve a bit more money behind him earlier. His picks weren't always great, though. Foyth, i'm looking at you saan.
Results on the pitch will always result in the manger going. It's certainly easier than sacking the board or squad.
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I’m pretty certain he’s very hands on in negotiations.
posted on 3/1/20
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
---
You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
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We did the minimum that was required even though they was top players.
What we are seeing atm is the lack of activity for the 18 months beforehand.
Whether that was poch or levy fault everyone will pick their side according to what agenda they have.
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Instead of picking sides and calling for heads how about we act like adults and apportion responsibility to everyone involved. As much as Levy is a handy target he's not a scout or even particularly hands-on in negotiations.
Poch was brilliant for us, and probably did deserve a bit more money behind him earlier. His picks weren't always great, though. Foyth, i'm looking at you saan.
Results on the pitch will always result in the manger going. It's certainly easier than sacking the board or squad.
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I’m pretty certain he’s very hands on in negotiations.
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I thought he was in Miami at the end of the window when we were getting our business done.
posted on 3/1/20
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
Levy will say the new stadium was built to help move Spurs forward and win titles but it only masks the real reason that it's a business venture to make Levy more money.
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You can't separate the two, though. The better we do on the field, the more we'll be worth. If he wasn't bothered about performances or results why sack Poch?
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Yeah but can we be sure Levy will bother spending the money correctly the more we make?
Poch was sacked because money making CL football was in jeopardy next season.
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hang on... Levy spent a large sum of money in summer on the exact players the manager wanted.......
those three signings have so far been a load of bollox if truth be told.....
cannot blame levy for this summers incoming transfer work - for once he actually did what was required.
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We did the minimum that was required even though they was top players.
What we are seeing atm is the lack of activity for the 18 months beforehand.
Whether that was poch or levy fault everyone will pick their side according to what agenda they have.
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Instead of picking sides and calling for heads how about we act like adults and apportion responsibility to everyone involved. As much as Levy is a handy target he's not a scout or even particularly hands-on in negotiations.
Poch was brilliant for us, and probably did deserve a bit more money behind him earlier. His picks weren't always great, though. Foyth, i'm looking at you saan.
Results on the pitch will always result in the manger going. It's certainly easier than sacking the board or squad.
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I’m pretty certain he’s very hands on in negotiations.
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I thought he was in Miami at the end of the window when we were getting our business done.
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You think all the negotiating is happening at lilywhite house?
Going by what the Lyon ceo and Pretty much everyone else in the business it’s levy who deals with everything on the buying and selling of players
posted on 3/1/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Fireside Favourites (U22293)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 35 minutes ago
I find those who exonerate Poch on a par with those Labour mp's and journalists who refuse to accept that Corbyn was unelectable. The level of the denial is staggering!
How can a manager who oversaw so many players go backwards be free from blame? I'm not at all sure whether we've brought in the correct replacement but he ceratinly deserved the sack.
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Excellent user name mate but that's a terrible analogy.
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The 4th best nightclub in Hull.
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"...it could just be rats"
Anyway, never forget that whoever has the press, Google, the BBC, and the richest people in the country behind them is electable whether or not they're the last person on earth fit to hold office - just look at Boris Johnson.
But back to the matter in hand; Poch was mentally-shot unfortunately and obviously could no longer motivate the players. But he should at least have been given until the end of the season (if the club's financial situation is such that a season out of the CL is catastrophic enough to cause Levy to panic in that manner then maybe Levy hasn't got all his bases covered after all).
posted on 3/1/20
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
ENIC have invested heavily into the club.... the issue is that the investment has come off the pitch and around the club as a whole, rather than on the pitch..... so what we now have is a crap team, but facilities and probably global profile that set us up for the next 100 years...
with the above in mind it is probably short termist to look on the current situation as a disaster, but i do wonder if a better balance could have been struck allocating funds to the team even if this meant a slightly slower growth and development off the pitch...
due to the quite remarkable uplift in the infrastructure around the club, it is nonsense to say that ENIC don't invest...... but most fans would have preferred to see more investment in the playing staff.
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Set us up for the next 100 years is not a guarantee. In a few years time our stadium will be above average but not as glamorous as it currently is. Clubs will build better or improve on their current ones.
The revenue from extra season tickets etc. is not going to be the game changer here. Our net spend has been atrocious during ENICs tenure (and historically).
The problem hasn't even been us not matching Man City et co. It's been consecutively poor decisions from Levy to not support our managers when they've shown progress.
Redknapp didn't get the extra two or three quality players needed. Pochettino in an even better position didn't. Looking at this summer of Ndombele, Lo Celso and Sessegnon is pointless.
Firstly, the damage was done. Secondly, it was nowhere near what was required. On top of those signings we needed proper full backs and a striker.
We now (yet again) have no proper striker available.
posted on 3/1/20
Not on a wind up here but the difference between Leicester and Spurs at the moment is quite remarkable and illustrates just how poorly run Spurs are as a football club and how lucky we are to have our owners.
We've had a few seasons of rebuilding, moving on older players, selling a few of our stand out players from the 2015/16 season and now with the exception of Schmeichel and Vardy, have a completely different team and style of football. Our rejuvenation also cost relatively little too and we are developing into a team that could and should be around the top of the league for several seasons to come, providing our best players don't get picked off again of course and we continue to strengthen, which is highly likely given our ambition to cement ourselves towards the top of the league.
Evans, Soyuncu, Ricardo, Ndidi, Maddison, Tielemans Praet, Perez and Iheanacho cost us £197.5m and we sold Kante, Drinky, Mahrez and Maguire for £220m. On top of that we've brought through Chilwell, Choudhury and Barnes from our academy.
There is no excuse for Spurs not being able to do what we've done because you're a bigger club, have more money, a bigger stadium and then there's the draw of London. I think it's fair to blame Levy for the fact that you've become stale with disillusioned players. I think the lack of ambition rubbed off on to Poch and the rest of the squad and that's why you find yourselves in the position you're currently in.
posted on 3/1/20
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 7 hours, 34 minutes ago
ENIC have invested heavily into the club.... the issue is that the investment has come off the pitch and around the club as a whole, rather than on the pitch..... so what we now have is a crap team, but facilities and probably global profile that set us up for the next 100 years...
with the above in mind it is probably short termist to look on the current situation as a disaster, but i do wonder if a better balance could have been struck allocating funds to the team even if this meant a slightly slower growth and development off the pitch...
due to the quite remarkable uplift in the infrastructure around the club, it is nonsense to say that ENIC don't invest...... but most fans would have preferred to see more investment in the playing staff.
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Disagree that they have invested that much. The stadium has mainly been funded through debt and 10 years of transfer kitties. The additional unexpected champions league income went straight back into the stadium.
They haven't invested their own money. If they were interested in the football club's success on the pitch they would have invested more of ENIC's money into the stadium and not hamstring the club with a lack of transfers/wages.
From ENIC's perspective they have done a wonderful job. Bought us for £80m and we're probably worth £2bn now. From a fan's perspective they have delivered us a great stadium but not delivered much on the pitch.
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