What do Arsenal need to do to get into this elite club?
Would help if VAR would work properly.
Luck? No it's corruption we are fighting against and have been for over a decade now.
A referee from Manchester officiating the match we played against Man Utd and letting their players get away with murder without even considering to show a yellow card was just yet another example of hundreds.
comment by ArtetaTorrent-Torreira Lord Pepe. (U21751)
posted 4 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 11 minutes ago
OP
I've passed your concerns onto a handful of departments as I think you have a genuine case...
Expect some action soon
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You can’t stop Chelsea diving or fouling it’s contiguous and the ref are always blindsided by the likes of Chelsea.
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Oh dear, the tin foil hat brigade is out
I'm struggling to think of any PL manager who hasn't called out a bad VAR/VAR not used, decision at some point this season. I think this has been a season where you can truly say it's balancing out. Because the refs are unanimously fecking EVERYONE with apparently little discrimination. It's a debacle FGS, thus total pot luck whose getting/not getting what. Pool WILL get more benefit of the doubt, same way leading team always does. They're getting no more leeway ATM than anyone that far ahead would.
We really can't moan too much. We've got away with plenty. Christ Xhaka and Gwen alone could have been off the pitch more than once a piece in just the last month. Balances out the pen's we never got. And Jorginho didn't get red because Gwen didn't. Ref let LOADS slide both ways in that game.
Its been gin on for years. When Leicester won the league there were lots of reports that whn clear refs errors were corrected we should ve won it and fairly clearly. That lead to the PL forcing the media to stop reporting that. Its also well now that Mike Riley who heads up the refs professional association hates Arsenal.
comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 4 minutes ago
Its been gin on for years. When Leicester won the league there were lots of reports that whn clear refs errors were corrected we should ve won it and fairly clearly. That lead to the PL forcing the media to stop reporting that. Its also well now that Mike Riley who heads up the refs professional association hates Arsenal.
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Nothing to do with this particular argument because the refs aren't interested in the clubs at present. They couldn't really care less who they're stuffing at any given time. Certain refs/officials no doubt hold grudges against or affection for one particular club. That is true in the PL for sure. So I'm not trying to argue that with you. Just the point that our VAR issues aren't part of a grand club-based agenda. But more an overall, largely indiscriminate, ANTI VAR agenda.
Their agenda is discrediting VAR. Lousy decisions all around, make the fans sick of the VAR. They want it gone or (more obtainable) it's use massively restricted. Current format highlights any bad decision hugely, whilst taking away the refs autonomy to change it. As the ref that leaves you just asking to get hammered, since being only human, in r/t you WILL get things wrong. That's why they need to go check the monitors themselves. If they do, they can be seen to reverse their own bad decision. Whether it was a genuine mistake or they were trying to pull a swifty. Their safe because they fixed it before the man off the pitch did. Or worse before the pundits and fans slated both of them for being blind, after the game.
If they'd just simple sent the damned thing properly then we'd not be dealing with this rubbish. But their too busy sweating their poor decisions being noticed, to realise VAR can be their very own "Bad decision get out of jail free card."
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 4 minutes ago
Its been gin on for years. When Leicester won the league there were lots of reports that whn clear refs errors were corrected we should ve won it and fairly clearly. That lead to the PL forcing the media to stop reporting that. Its also well now that Mike Riley who heads up the refs professional association hates Arsenal.
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Nothing to do with this particular argument because the refs aren't interested in the clubs at present. They couldn't really care less who they're stuffing at any given time. Certain refs/officials no doubt hold grudges against or affection for one particular club. That is true in the PL for sure. So I'm not trying to argue that with you. Just the point that our VAR issues aren't part of a grand club-based agenda. But more an overall, largely indiscriminate, ANTI VAR agenda.
Their agenda is discrediting VAR. Lousy decisions all around, make the fans sick of the VAR. They want it gone or (more obtainable) it's use massively restricted. Current format highlights any bad decision hugely, whilst taking away the refs autonomy to change it. As the ref that leaves you just asking to get hammered, since being only human, in r/t you WILL get things wrong. That's why they need to go check the monitors themselves. If they do, they can be seen to reverse their own bad decision. Whether it was a genuine mistake or they were trying to pull a swifty. Their safe because they fixed it before the man off the pitch did. Or worse before the pundits and fans slated both of them for being blind, after the game.
If they'd just simple sent the damned thing properly then we'd not be dealing with this rubbish. But their too busy sweating their poor decisions being noticed, to realise VAR can be their very own "Bad decision get out of jail free card."
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Couldn’t agree more the referees in England are all biased that’s why they’re scared of VAR exposing their biases.
https://www.givemesport.com/1536769-how-the-201920-premier-league-table-would-look-if-every-refereeing-decision-was-correct
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posted on 9/1/20
What do Arsenal need to do to get into this elite club?
Would help if VAR would work properly.
posted on 9/1/20
Luck? No it's corruption we are fighting against and have been for over a decade now.
A referee from Manchester officiating the match we played against Man Utd and letting their players get away with murder without even considering to show a yellow card was just yet another example of hundreds.
posted on 9/1/20
comment by ArtetaTorrent-Torreira Lord Pepe. (U21751)
posted 4 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 11 minutes ago
OP
I've passed your concerns onto a handful of departments as I think you have a genuine case...
Expect some action soon
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You can’t stop Chelsea diving or fouling it’s contiguous and the ref are always blindsided by the likes of Chelsea.
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contiguous
posted on 9/1/20
contagious typo
posted on 9/1/20
Oh dear, the tin foil hat brigade is out
I'm struggling to think of any PL manager who hasn't called out a bad VAR/VAR not used, decision at some point this season. I think this has been a season where you can truly say it's balancing out. Because the refs are unanimously fecking EVERYONE with apparently little discrimination. It's a debacle FGS, thus total pot luck whose getting/not getting what. Pool WILL get more benefit of the doubt, same way leading team always does. They're getting no more leeway ATM than anyone that far ahead would.
We really can't moan too much. We've got away with plenty. Christ Xhaka and Gwen alone could have been off the pitch more than once a piece in just the last month. Balances out the pen's we never got. And Jorginho didn't get red because Gwen didn't. Ref let LOADS slide both ways in that game.
posted on 9/1/20
Its been gin on for years. When Leicester won the league there were lots of reports that whn clear refs errors were corrected we should ve won it and fairly clearly. That lead to the PL forcing the media to stop reporting that. Its also well now that Mike Riley who heads up the refs professional association hates Arsenal.
posted on 9/1/20
comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 4 minutes ago
Its been gin on for years. When Leicester won the league there were lots of reports that whn clear refs errors were corrected we should ve won it and fairly clearly. That lead to the PL forcing the media to stop reporting that. Its also well now that Mike Riley who heads up the refs professional association hates Arsenal.
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Nothing to do with this particular argument because the refs aren't interested in the clubs at present. They couldn't really care less who they're stuffing at any given time. Certain refs/officials no doubt hold grudges against or affection for one particular club. That is true in the PL for sure. So I'm not trying to argue that with you. Just the point that our VAR issues aren't part of a grand club-based agenda. But more an overall, largely indiscriminate, ANTI VAR agenda.
Their agenda is discrediting VAR. Lousy decisions all around, make the fans sick of the VAR. They want it gone or (more obtainable) it's use massively restricted. Current format highlights any bad decision hugely, whilst taking away the refs autonomy to change it. As the ref that leaves you just asking to get hammered, since being only human, in r/t you WILL get things wrong. That's why they need to go check the monitors themselves. If they do, they can be seen to reverse their own bad decision. Whether it was a genuine mistake or they were trying to pull a swifty. Their safe because they fixed it before the man off the pitch did. Or worse before the pundits and fans slated both of them for being blind, after the game.
If they'd just simple sent the damned thing properly then we'd not be dealing with this rubbish. But their too busy sweating their poor decisions being noticed, to realise VAR can be their very own "Bad decision get out of jail free card."
posted on 10/1/20
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by The Wonky Kronke (U16927)
posted 4 minutes ago
Its been gin on for years. When Leicester won the league there were lots of reports that whn clear refs errors were corrected we should ve won it and fairly clearly. That lead to the PL forcing the media to stop reporting that. Its also well now that Mike Riley who heads up the refs professional association hates Arsenal.
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Nothing to do with this particular argument because the refs aren't interested in the clubs at present. They couldn't really care less who they're stuffing at any given time. Certain refs/officials no doubt hold grudges against or affection for one particular club. That is true in the PL for sure. So I'm not trying to argue that with you. Just the point that our VAR issues aren't part of a grand club-based agenda. But more an overall, largely indiscriminate, ANTI VAR agenda.
Their agenda is discrediting VAR. Lousy decisions all around, make the fans sick of the VAR. They want it gone or (more obtainable) it's use massively restricted. Current format highlights any bad decision hugely, whilst taking away the refs autonomy to change it. As the ref that leaves you just asking to get hammered, since being only human, in r/t you WILL get things wrong. That's why they need to go check the monitors themselves. If they do, they can be seen to reverse their own bad decision. Whether it was a genuine mistake or they were trying to pull a swifty. Their safe because they fixed it before the man off the pitch did. Or worse before the pundits and fans slated both of them for being blind, after the game.
If they'd just simple sent the damned thing properly then we'd not be dealing with this rubbish. But their too busy sweating their poor decisions being noticed, to realise VAR can be their very own "Bad decision get out of jail free card."
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Couldn’t agree more the referees in England are all biased that’s why they’re scared of VAR exposing their biases.
posted on 10/1/20
https://www.givemesport.com/1536769-how-the-201920-premier-league-table-would-look-if-every-refereeing-decision-was-correct
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