Brutal... Pick the unquestionably successful signings out of that
And people still want a short term, break the bank approach
Whatever has caused it, this is the major reason why we are where we are. Not one club in the world could be in a strong position when such a high percentage - practically all - if its signings over a seven- or eight-year period have been underwhelming at least.
Different managers want and rate different players, that list confirms what we know.
Changing managers often is not the way to build a coherent squad.
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 24 seconds ago
Whatever has caused it, this is the major reason why we are where we are. Not one club in the world could be in a strong position when such a high percentage - practically all - if its signings over a seven- or eight-year period have been underwhelming at least.
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*to say the least
I thought Martial was around £35 mill
what's worse is there's a few that have gone away and been much much better, blind, di maria, depay, falcao(came at the wrong time after his injury)
We should not have signed Di Maria, he did not want to play for us, and his wife didn't want to live in Manchester if rumours are to be believed.
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 2 minutes ago
I thought Martial was around £35 mill
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44 million rising to 58
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 minutes ago
Brutal... Pick the unquestionably successful signings out of that
And people still want a short term, break the bank approach
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Mind boggles mate.
Of course changing managers so regularly will cause problems but the fact is every one that has been appointed post Ferguson has failed and were rightly sacked, had any of them stayed longer they wouldn’t have helped things.
So you have to look higher up and lay most of the blame on Woodward for the mess he’s causing and the fact he seems to have no long term plan or clear path he wants to take the club. If a manager is failing and is the wrong appointment to begin with then they need to be sacked, it’s up to the CEO to make the right decisions on appointments based on a solid strategy and direction they want to take the club and be accountable for, something Woodward has failed to do from day one.
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 3 minutes ago
I thought Martial was around £35 mill
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Goals and appearance clauses... Trophy clauses as well i think... There's even one for winning the Balon D'or.... Should be safe on that one
Ideally we hire the right manager and give him as much money as he needs
So far we’ve not had that combination
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ideally we hire the right manager and give him as much money as he needs
So far we’ve not had that combination
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Jose spent how much again?
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ideally we hire the right manager and give him as much money as he needs
So far we’ve not had that combination
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Jose spent how much again?
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He wasn’t the right manager though
Our recruitment department has been outdated for a while. Apparently they didn't identify proper targets for Moyes, so he goes for what he knows in Felleini.
LVG and Jose had good recruitment before joining us. They probably thought that our scouts were on a par with other top clubs. By the time they realised, it was too late.
All of this could have been fixed if we appointed a DOF.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 2 minutes ago
I thought Martial was around £35 mill
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44 million rising to 58
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Martial's final fee was £43.2m
United paid £36 million up front for Martial, but his contract contains three bonus clauses worth £7.2 million each, taking the potential fee to £57.6 million.
However those clauses needed to be met before the 2018/19 season - and therefore the final two clauses are obsolete.
Paul Mitchell and Pochetino
The dream team. Doubtful that Ed will cede much of his own power though
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
Paul Mitchell and Pochetino
The dream team. Doubtful that Ed will cede much of his own power though
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Which one do you hold responsible for pochettino poor transfer record at spurs.... Mitchell or Poch
And why when it's one or the other do you want them both at United
Not my dream team, but Poch is very good.
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
Paul Mitchell and Pochetino
The dream team. Doubtful that Ed will cede much of his own power though
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Which one do you hold responsible for pochettino poor transfer record at spurs.... Mitchell or Poch
And why when it's one or the other do you want them both at United
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Mitchell left a couple of years or so into the partnership
He did bring Alli, Trippier and Alderwereld
He’s now crushing it at Red Bull Leipzig
Actually I think the RB means something else regarding Leipzig but they still have something to do with red bull
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ideally we hire the right manager and give him as much money as he needs
So far we’ve not had that combination
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose spent how much again?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He wasn’t the right manager though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Finally
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ideally we hire the right manager and give him as much money as he needs
So far we’ve not had that combination
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose spent how much again?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He wasn’t the right manager though
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Finally
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He was our best manager since SAF though and we’ve taken a step backwards with Ole
But I agree with hindsight that he wasn’t the right guy just as I’m sure people who argued day and night can accept that LVg was also not the right guy
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 40 minutes ago
Brutal... Pick the unquestionably successful signings out of that
And people still want a short term, break the bank approach
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Mata, Herrera, Blind, Romero, Zlatan, and James, which was a no-lose scenario signing. It’s a short list.
The jury is still out on some.
But Romero must be one of the club’s best ever signings. The best number two keeper in world football since he’s been at the club, and a free transfer.
Hardworking, professional, not a single complaint from him about not getting games, and has barely ever let us down. His average performance is at least an 8 out of 10.
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posted on 11/1/20
Brutal... Pick the unquestionably successful signings out of that
And people still want a short term, break the bank approach
posted on 11/1/20
Whatever has caused it, this is the major reason why we are where we are. Not one club in the world could be in a strong position when such a high percentage - practically all - if its signings over a seven- or eight-year period have been underwhelming at least.
posted on 11/1/20
Different managers want and rate different players, that list confirms what we know.
Changing managers often is not the way to build a coherent squad.
posted on 11/1/20
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 24 seconds ago
Whatever has caused it, this is the major reason why we are where we are. Not one club in the world could be in a strong position when such a high percentage - practically all - if its signings over a seven- or eight-year period have been underwhelming at least.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
*to say the least
posted on 11/1/20
I thought Martial was around £35 mill
posted on 11/1/20
what's worse is there's a few that have gone away and been much much better, blind, di maria, depay, falcao(came at the wrong time after his injury)
posted on 11/1/20
We should not have signed Di Maria, he did not want to play for us, and his wife didn't want to live in Manchester if rumours are to be believed.
posted on 11/1/20
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 2 minutes ago
I thought Martial was around £35 mill
----------------------------------------------------------------------
44 million rising to 58
posted on 11/1/20
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 8 minutes ago
Brutal... Pick the unquestionably successful signings out of that
And people still want a short term, break the bank approach
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mind boggles mate.
posted on 11/1/20
Of course changing managers so regularly will cause problems but the fact is every one that has been appointed post Ferguson has failed and were rightly sacked, had any of them stayed longer they wouldn’t have helped things.
So you have to look higher up and lay most of the blame on Woodward for the mess he’s causing and the fact he seems to have no long term plan or clear path he wants to take the club. If a manager is failing and is the wrong appointment to begin with then they need to be sacked, it’s up to the CEO to make the right decisions on appointments based on a solid strategy and direction they want to take the club and be accountable for, something Woodward has failed to do from day one.
posted on 11/1/20
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 3 minutes ago
I thought Martial was around £35 mill
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Goals and appearance clauses... Trophy clauses as well i think... There's even one for winning the Balon D'or.... Should be safe on that one
posted on 11/1/20
Ideally we hire the right manager and give him as much money as he needs
So far we’ve not had that combination
posted on 11/1/20
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ideally we hire the right manager and give him as much money as he needs
So far we’ve not had that combination
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose spent how much again?
posted on 11/1/20
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ideally we hire the right manager and give him as much money as he needs
So far we’ve not had that combination
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose spent how much again?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He wasn’t the right manager though
posted on 11/1/20
Our recruitment department has been outdated for a while. Apparently they didn't identify proper targets for Moyes, so he goes for what he knows in Felleini.
LVG and Jose had good recruitment before joining us. They probably thought that our scouts were on a par with other top clubs. By the time they realised, it was too late.
All of this could have been fixed if we appointed a DOF.
posted on 11/1/20
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 2 minutes ago
I thought Martial was around £35 mill
----------------------------------------------------------------------
44 million rising to 58
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Martial's final fee was £43.2m
United paid £36 million up front for Martial, but his contract contains three bonus clauses worth £7.2 million each, taking the potential fee to £57.6 million.
However those clauses needed to be met before the 2018/19 season - and therefore the final two clauses are obsolete.
posted on 11/1/20
£881,500,000
posted on 11/1/20
Paul Mitchell and Pochetino
The dream team. Doubtful that Ed will cede much of his own power though
posted on 11/1/20
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
Paul Mitchell and Pochetino
The dream team. Doubtful that Ed will cede much of his own power though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which one do you hold responsible for pochettino poor transfer record at spurs.... Mitchell or Poch
And why when it's one or the other do you want them both at United
posted on 11/1/20
Not my dream team, but Poch is very good.
posted on 11/1/20
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
Paul Mitchell and Pochetino
The dream team. Doubtful that Ed will cede much of his own power though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which one do you hold responsible for pochettino poor transfer record at spurs.... Mitchell or Poch
And why when it's one or the other do you want them both at United
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mitchell left a couple of years or so into the partnership
He did bring Alli, Trippier and Alderwereld
He’s now crushing it at Red Bull Leipzig
posted on 11/1/20
Actually I think the RB means something else regarding Leipzig but they still have something to do with red bull
posted on 11/1/20
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ideally we hire the right manager and give him as much money as he needs
So far we’ve not had that combination
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose spent how much again?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He wasn’t the right manager though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Finally
posted on 11/1/20
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 5 minutes ago
Ideally we hire the right manager and give him as much money as he needs
So far we’ve not had that combination
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jose spent how much again?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He wasn’t the right manager though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Finally
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was our best manager since SAF though and we’ve taken a step backwards with Ole
But I agree with hindsight that he wasn’t the right guy just as I’m sure people who argued day and night can accept that LVg was also not the right guy
posted on 11/1/20
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 40 minutes ago
Brutal... Pick the unquestionably successful signings out of that
And people still want a short term, break the bank approach
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mata, Herrera, Blind, Romero, Zlatan, and James, which was a no-lose scenario signing. It’s a short list.
The jury is still out on some.
But Romero must be one of the club’s best ever signings. The best number two keeper in world football since he’s been at the club, and a free transfer.
Hardworking, professional, not a single complaint from him about not getting games, and has barely ever let us down. His average performance is at least an 8 out of 10.
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