comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'll just throw a grenade into the debate - didn't we have Saiz until December '18 ?
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Yep and we never replaced him.
This season we've used a lot players and scored more points, thus far. No sign of fatigue yet either and we're mid Jan with the xmas period and cup games behind us.
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'll just throw a grenade into the debate - didn't we have Saiz until December '18 ?
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Yep and we never replaced him.
This season we've used a lot players and scored more points, thus far. No sign of fatigue yet either and we're mid Jan with the xmas period and cup games behind us.
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#a lot LESS
apologies
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'll just throw a grenade into the debate - didn't we have Saiz until December '18 ?
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Yep and we never replaced him.
This season we've used a lot players and scored more points, thus far. No sign of fatigue yet either and we're mid Jan with the xmas period and cup games behind us.
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Mate, Klich looks as though he's going to drop dead, KP over the last few games has looked as though he needs a rest too I think?
We came through a patch of 10 games (same as everyone else) what they call the dreaded xmas period and we were top of the form table.
No Phillips hasn't looked like he needs a rest. Theyn will have had a week after sheff weds. Is that enough for you?
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 2 minutes ago
No milky
Am talking about the high press on phillips and our keeper.
Makes phillips look like a pub player and more and more teams doing it.
Preston did us, arsenal second half did it, sheff wed second half did.
Don’t get where this other teams setting back has come from
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I'm referring to all the comments for example, when we lost to wigan last year about how fast wingers running the channels on the break was this amazing new strategy... but yeh it's a fair point that a few more teams are trying to do to us what we do to them (without the ball at least).
That wasn't the issue last year... our chance conversion rate fell off a cliff and and suicide defending became the norm. Why?
Individual errors cost us in the Derby game, teams found us out though, no doubt. Especially mobile long ball teams like Wigan. We got done that day and all our own fault.
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 6 minutes ago
omment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 34 minutes ago
Milky, completely agree... for me, I train for 8 weeks, with 1 or two rest days in between, then have the 9th as a full rest.. not only does that provide me the physical recovery, but mentally, it does me the world of good knowing I have that week where I don't have to cart around changes of cloths, don't have to prep so much in terms of food / meals.. also, what I find it that when I get to week 6 or 7 and I'm tiring in terms of performance, it gives me the added motivation to keep going as I know the rest period is just around the corner.
Usually about half way through the rest week I'm looking forward to getting back to it.... by the time I'm back to week 1 of training, I feel fresher, re-motivated, and I can categorically hand on heart say my performance is right back up there... this is my whole point ref the Leeds players..
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You see highly tuned athletes like ourselves would understand this... the beer and pie club just don't get it.
for the record, I'm a fat fck at the moment... but i have vague memories of what it was like to be fit!
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Milky, simply look at it as an extended recovery period
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yeh... i'm taking the buster douglas school of recovery periods... Hamburgers for a year
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 35 seconds ago
Individual errors cost us in the Derby game, teams found us out though, no doubt. Especially mobile long ball teams like Wigan. We got done that day and all our own fault.
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if it had only been the derby game, we wouldn't have been in the play-offs.
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 7 minutes ago
We came through a patch of 10 games (same as everyone else) what they call the dreaded xmas period and we were top of the form table.
No Phillips hasn't looked like he needs a rest. Theyn will have had a week after sheff weds. Is that enough for you?
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personally, after the QPR game, I think we have 10 days until the next game.. if I was Beilsa, I wouldn't have them training for a few days to rest up...
I do think KP looks a little jaded, and klich looks dead on his feet to me.. I'd imagine they;d be in training this week after the sheff wed game, so no, I don't think that is enough for me.. but, as stated, we do have a little time frame after the QPR game to rest up..
lets hope we use it well
no need to get rattled pal, we all have different views mate
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 6 minutes ago
omment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 34 minutes ago
Milky, completely agree... for me, I train for 8 weeks, with 1 or two rest days in between, then have the 9th as a full rest.. not only does that provide me the physical recovery, but mentally, it does me the world of good knowing I have that week where I don't have to cart around changes of cloths, don't have to prep so much in terms of food / meals.. also, what I find it that when I get to week 6 or 7 and I'm tiring in terms of performance, it gives me the added motivation to keep going as I know the rest period is just around the corner.
Usually about half way through the rest week I'm looking forward to getting back to it.... by the time I'm back to week 1 of training, I feel fresher, re-motivated, and I can categorically hand on heart say my performance is right back up there... this is my whole point ref the Leeds players..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You see highly tuned athletes like ourselves would understand this... the beer and pie club just don't get it.
for the record, I'm a fat fck at the moment... but i have vague memories of what it was like to be fit!
--------------------
Milky, simply look at it as an extended recovery period
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yeh... i'm taking the buster douglas school of recovery periods... Hamburgers for a year
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- a Tyson Fury rest period of 3 years has done him the world of good too
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 7 minutes ago
We came through a patch of 10 games (same as everyone else) what they call the dreaded xmas period and we were top of the form table.
No Phillips hasn't looked like he needs a rest. Theyn will have had a week after sheff weds. Is that enough for you?
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personally, after the QPR game, I think we have 10 days until the next game.. if I was Beilsa, I wouldn't have them training for a few days to rest up...
I do think KP looks a little jaded, and klich looks dead on his feet to me.. I'd imagine they;d be in training this week after the sheff wed game, so no, I don't think that is enough for me.. but, as stated, we do have a little time frame after the QPR game to rest up..
lets hope we use it well
no need to get rattled pal, we all have different views mate
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Huh?
Form is irrelevant as unlike everybody else in the league,
we can't rest or drop out of form players. Bamford will have to play the 90 against QPR no matter how tired he is or how many shots he misses.
comment by Shaun M - I can't see me loving nobody but Leeds! (U9955)
posted 18 minutes ago
Form is irrelevant as unlike everybody else in the league,
we can't rest or drop out of form players. Bamford will have to play the 90 against QPR no matter how tired he is or how many shots he misses.
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if he scores his hat trick by halftime i'm sure we can stick berardi up front for the second half.
Shaun, what weight are you ?
Do you have weight categories in kickboxing or is it ‘belt levels?’ .. as I’ve said it wasn’t for me, prob too set in my ways as a boxer.. couldn’t get my balance right using kicks etc, ty boxing the same.. all knees and elbows.. enjoyed the sessions though, had a cameo instructor come down to the gym once!
Top of the form?
We have only won 1 in our last 6 games - Brentford are currently the in form club.
As for money side of things, our revenue streams are the best in this league by long way yet we have very little to spend in the next 2 weeks?
AR is an improvement on the previous motley crew in recent years but I still don't think his ownership or handling of the club gets anything more than average.
And one could advocate he looks better because the previous were so bad.
For me personally, MB is the centre of all real progression at the club and even he can't do much more than he has with the present crop.
comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 7 minutes ago
Top of the form?
We have only won 1 in our last 6 games - Brentford are currently the in form club.
As for money side of things, our revenue streams are the best in this league by long way yet we have very little to spend in the next 2 weeks?
AR is an improvement on the previous motley crew in recent years but I still don't think his ownership or handling of the club gets anything more than average.
And one could advocate he looks better because the previous were so bad.
For me personally, MB is the centre of all real progression at the club and even he can't do much more than he has with the present crop.
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Well said!
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 7 hours, 50 minutes ago
You play one way and one way only, teams will find a way to neutralise you.
Teams like Man City and Liverpool can get away with because the players are miles better than everyone else’s.
Our players aren’t, it the manager which carries the team
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Agree on being found out early, no plan B. However, if results aren't going our way then the manager isn't carrying us. Manager needs to look at alternate systems.
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posted on 15/1/20
comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'll just throw a grenade into the debate - didn't we have Saiz until December '18 ?
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Yep and we never replaced him.
This season we've used a lot players and scored more points, thus far. No sign of fatigue yet either and we're mid Jan with the xmas period and cup games behind us.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'll just throw a grenade into the debate - didn't we have Saiz until December '18 ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep and we never replaced him.
This season we've used a lot players and scored more points, thus far. No sign of fatigue yet either and we're mid Jan with the xmas period and cup games behind us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
#a lot LESS
apologies
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'll just throw a grenade into the debate - didn't we have Saiz until December '18 ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep and we never replaced him.
This season we've used a lot players and scored more points, thus far. No sign of fatigue yet either and we're mid Jan with the xmas period and cup games behind us.
------------
Mate, Klich looks as though he's going to drop dead, KP over the last few games has looked as though he needs a rest too I think?
posted on 15/1/20
We came through a patch of 10 games (same as everyone else) what they call the dreaded xmas period and we were top of the form table.
No Phillips hasn't looked like he needs a rest. Theyn will have had a week after sheff weds. Is that enough for you?
posted on 15/1/20
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 2 minutes ago
No milky
Am talking about the high press on phillips and our keeper.
Makes phillips look like a pub player and more and more teams doing it.
Preston did us, arsenal second half did it, sheff wed second half did.
Don’t get where this other teams setting back has come from
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm referring to all the comments for example, when we lost to wigan last year about how fast wingers running the channels on the break was this amazing new strategy... but yeh it's a fair point that a few more teams are trying to do to us what we do to them (without the ball at least).
That wasn't the issue last year... our chance conversion rate fell off a cliff and and suicide defending became the norm. Why?
posted on 15/1/20
Individual errors cost us in the Derby game, teams found us out though, no doubt. Especially mobile long ball teams like Wigan. We got done that day and all our own fault.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 6 minutes ago
omment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 34 minutes ago
Milky, completely agree... for me, I train for 8 weeks, with 1 or two rest days in between, then have the 9th as a full rest.. not only does that provide me the physical recovery, but mentally, it does me the world of good knowing I have that week where I don't have to cart around changes of cloths, don't have to prep so much in terms of food / meals.. also, what I find it that when I get to week 6 or 7 and I'm tiring in terms of performance, it gives me the added motivation to keep going as I know the rest period is just around the corner.
Usually about half way through the rest week I'm looking forward to getting back to it.... by the time I'm back to week 1 of training, I feel fresher, re-motivated, and I can categorically hand on heart say my performance is right back up there... this is my whole point ref the Leeds players..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You see highly tuned athletes like ourselves would understand this... the beer and pie club just don't get it.
for the record, I'm a fat fck at the moment... but i have vague memories of what it was like to be fit!
--------------------
Milky, simply look at it as an extended recovery period
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yeh... i'm taking the buster douglas school of recovery periods... Hamburgers for a year
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 35 seconds ago
Individual errors cost us in the Derby game, teams found us out though, no doubt. Especially mobile long ball teams like Wigan. We got done that day and all our own fault.
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if it had only been the derby game, we wouldn't have been in the play-offs.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 7 minutes ago
We came through a patch of 10 games (same as everyone else) what they call the dreaded xmas period and we were top of the form table.
No Phillips hasn't looked like he needs a rest. Theyn will have had a week after sheff weds. Is that enough for you?
-------------
personally, after the QPR game, I think we have 10 days until the next game.. if I was Beilsa, I wouldn't have them training for a few days to rest up...
I do think KP looks a little jaded, and klich looks dead on his feet to me.. I'd imagine they;d be in training this week after the sheff wed game, so no, I don't think that is enough for me.. but, as stated, we do have a little time frame after the QPR game to rest up..
lets hope we use it well
no need to get rattled pal, we all have different views mate
posted on 15/1/20
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 6 minutes ago
omment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 34 minutes ago
Milky, completely agree... for me, I train for 8 weeks, with 1 or two rest days in between, then have the 9th as a full rest.. not only does that provide me the physical recovery, but mentally, it does me the world of good knowing I have that week where I don't have to cart around changes of cloths, don't have to prep so much in terms of food / meals.. also, what I find it that when I get to week 6 or 7 and I'm tiring in terms of performance, it gives me the added motivation to keep going as I know the rest period is just around the corner.
Usually about half way through the rest week I'm looking forward to getting back to it.... by the time I'm back to week 1 of training, I feel fresher, re-motivated, and I can categorically hand on heart say my performance is right back up there... this is my whole point ref the Leeds players..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You see highly tuned athletes like ourselves would understand this... the beer and pie club just don't get it.
for the record, I'm a fat fck at the moment... but i have vague memories of what it was like to be fit!
--------------------
Milky, simply look at it as an extended recovery period
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yeh... i'm taking the buster douglas school of recovery periods... Hamburgers for a year
----------------------
- a Tyson Fury rest period of 3 years has done him the world of good too
posted on 15/1/20
comment by The Spanish Italians (U21595)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 7 minutes ago
We came through a patch of 10 games (same as everyone else) what they call the dreaded xmas period and we were top of the form table.
No Phillips hasn't looked like he needs a rest. Theyn will have had a week after sheff weds. Is that enough for you?
-------------
personally, after the QPR game, I think we have 10 days until the next game.. if I was Beilsa, I wouldn't have them training for a few days to rest up...
I do think KP looks a little jaded, and klich looks dead on his feet to me.. I'd imagine they;d be in training this week after the sheff wed game, so no, I don't think that is enough for me.. but, as stated, we do have a little time frame after the QPR game to rest up..
lets hope we use it well
no need to get rattled pal, we all have different views mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Huh?
posted on 15/1/20
Form is irrelevant as unlike everybody else in the league,
we can't rest or drop out of form players. Bamford will have to play the 90 against QPR no matter how tired he is or how many shots he misses.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Shaun M - I can't see me loving nobody but Leeds! (U9955)
posted 18 minutes ago
Form is irrelevant as unlike everybody else in the league,
we can't rest or drop out of form players. Bamford will have to play the 90 against QPR no matter how tired he is or how many shots he misses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
if he scores his hat trick by halftime i'm sure we can stick berardi up front for the second half.
posted on 15/1/20
Shaun, what weight are you ?
Do you have weight categories in kickboxing or is it ‘belt levels?’ .. as I’ve said it wasn’t for me, prob too set in my ways as a boxer.. couldn’t get my balance right using kicks etc, ty boxing the same.. all knees and elbows.. enjoyed the sessions though, had a cameo instructor come down to the gym once!
posted on 15/1/20
Thai*
posted on 15/1/20
Top of the form?
We have only won 1 in our last 6 games - Brentford are currently the in form club.
As for money side of things, our revenue streams are the best in this league by long way yet we have very little to spend in the next 2 weeks?
AR is an improvement on the previous motley crew in recent years but I still don't think his ownership or handling of the club gets anything more than average.
And one could advocate he looks better because the previous were so bad.
For me personally, MB is the centre of all real progression at the club and even he can't do much more than he has with the present crop.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 7 minutes ago
Top of the form?
We have only won 1 in our last 6 games - Brentford are currently the in form club.
As for money side of things, our revenue streams are the best in this league by long way yet we have very little to spend in the next 2 weeks?
AR is an improvement on the previous motley crew in recent years but I still don't think his ownership or handling of the club gets anything more than average.
And one could advocate he looks better because the previous were so bad.
For me personally, MB is the centre of all real progression at the club and even he can't do much more than he has with the present crop.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well said!
posted on 15/1/20
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 7 hours, 50 minutes ago
You play one way and one way only, teams will find a way to neutralise you.
Teams like Man City and Liverpool can get away with because the players are miles better than everyone else’s.
Our players aren’t, it the manager which carries the team
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Agree on being found out early, no plan B. However, if results aren't going our way then the manager isn't carrying us. Manager needs to look at alternate systems.
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