I'm starting to feel like this may even be the worse season in recent times that I can remember for feeling cheated by the referees. I mean it's been pretty consistent for a decade or more now, particularly against the other top sides but this season it has literally been game after game after game of feeling utterly cheated. It's quite incredible to me that any Man Utd fan would dare rear their ugly heads about 'suffering' from corruption when for a very long time it was the exact opposite, obvious Fergie's 'influence' has signed waned but clearly not enough to stop a referee from Manchester cheating his face off when we played them recently.
It's probably a pen, but not stonewall. The shef U lad pulled his leg away and Pepe went down theatrically. I would say there is an element of doubt which makes it not clear and obvious.
*obviously Fergie's 'influence' has since waned.
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you (U7905)
posted 31 seconds ago
It's probably a pen, but not stonewall. The shef U lad pulled his leg away and Pepe went down theatrically. I would say there is an element of doubt which makes it not clear and obvious.
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The defender pulled his leg away after contact. What was he meant to do, keep kicking Pepe until he died?
Nothing theatrical about the fall, that's how you go down when tripped.
Blatant pen for me.
It beggars that VAR did not give it.
Who are these blind people who believe there's any doubt there. Two players converge on Pepe. One trips PEPE, the other (the defender he's just beaten) then gets the ball.
You can't sandwich a player and one of you trip him whilst the other takes the ball. Pepe is running at speed, nowhere else for him to go but forward over a foolishly outstretched leg. NO he did not move it in time, nowhere near.
STONEWALL PENALTY but I'm not moaning about Arsenal or Man U conspiracy. EVERYBODY'S getting fecked by VAR barr Liverpool. And we already know how desperate the football establishment is to see them win a PL trophy.
I guess they figured pool just can't seem to get over the line by themselves and couldn't bare the thought they might feck it up again. VARs intro has handed them the perfect opportunity to make sure that they can't shoot themselves in the foot this year too.
And BOY ARE THEY USING IT!
The defender stuck his leg out and kept it there like a facking turnstile.
As stonewall as it gets.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 24 seconds ago
VAR is a joke. They have made like 12 big decisions wrong in Man Utd games against us and nothing is done. Its like as if there is a Liverpool fan controlling VAR decisions.
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Stop it, its not biased for anyone.
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Stop giving this oxygen thief any attention
https://www.givemesport.com/1536769-how-the-201920-premier-league-table-would-look-if-every-refereeing-decision-was-correct
With todays incident that makes it 11 points!
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 13 minutes ago
https://www.givemesport.com/1536769-how-the-201920-premier-league-table-would-look-if-every-refereeing-decision-was-correct
With todays incident that makes it 11 points!
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I am feeling sick
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 13 minutes ago
https://www.givemesport.com/1536769-how-the-201920-premier-league-table-would-look-if-every-refereeing-decision-was-correct
With todays incident that makes it 11 points!
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I am feeling sick
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we'd have forty points and be fourth without this bs
comment by 4everanarsenalfan (U20629)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 13 minutes ago
https://www.givemesport.com/1536769-how-the-201920-premier-league-table-would-look-if-every-refereeing-decision-was-correct
With todays incident that makes it 11 points!
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I am feeling sick
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we'd have forty points and be fourth without this bs
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Wow, I didn't know it was that bad
Get a grip people. We wouldn't have picked up ALL those points. Not in the form we're in. It's not as though the were all last minute awards given/denied that cost us a nailed on result.
Not saying it didn't have an effect. Just that we need way more than VAR to be correct to fix this teams results. Form we've been in, I honestly don't think the VAR calls made much difference. If we'd gotten them, the team would have just fecked up the lead and blew the game in the same way it has been doing all season regardless. Even where VAR has played no part.
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you (U7905)
posted 13 hours, 27 minutes ago
It's probably a pen, but not stonewall
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Unbelievable.
So VAR ref over reacted with Auba's red card. Realised that it was undermining the ref and then over reacted against by NOT over ruling Mike Dean.
Blatant pen.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by The One (U22189)
posted 2 minutes ago
When I knew for certain var was corrupt was the disallowed winner vs Palace 😂 I still think about that decision and chuckle at how ridiculous it was and how little mention it got
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Define how its corrupt? Like in favour of certain teams?
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Yes you idiot. For spurs and Liverpool etc, against arsenal wolves etc
Auba was also a blatant red card
Plus Palace should have had a player sent off against us too.
The Sokratis disallowed goal against Palace is still the worst for me. To ignore a clear foul is bad, but to fabricate one to influence the result is pure corruption.
I think Arsenal can legitimately claim to be the most hard done by.
At least among the top clubs, if not the whole league.
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
Auba was also a blatant red card
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Not the point. What should have happened, as the protocol requires, the Ref should have gone to the monitor at pitch side for making the decision. You are not really supposed to re-referee the game which is why the VAR system is wrongly setup here. In Europe the ref is required to look at his judgement calls again if he has missed something.
Riley said so afterwards and thats why he was there watching the game. However this time the VAR ref chickened out because of the clarification made by Riley. It was a mistake and I wonder if Riley will have the humility to admit it. I doubt it.
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posted on 18/1/20
I'm starting to feel like this may even be the worse season in recent times that I can remember for feeling cheated by the referees. I mean it's been pretty consistent for a decade or more now, particularly against the other top sides but this season it has literally been game after game after game of feeling utterly cheated. It's quite incredible to me that any Man Utd fan would dare rear their ugly heads about 'suffering' from corruption when for a very long time it was the exact opposite, obvious Fergie's 'influence' has signed waned but clearly not enough to stop a referee from Manchester cheating his face off when we played them recently.
posted on 18/1/20
It's probably a pen, but not stonewall. The shef U lad pulled his leg away and Pepe went down theatrically. I would say there is an element of doubt which makes it not clear and obvious.
posted on 18/1/20
*obviously Fergie's 'influence' has since waned.
posted on 18/1/20
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you (U7905)
posted 31 seconds ago
It's probably a pen, but not stonewall. The shef U lad pulled his leg away and Pepe went down theatrically. I would say there is an element of doubt which makes it not clear and obvious.
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The defender pulled his leg away after contact. What was he meant to do, keep kicking Pepe until he died?
Nothing theatrical about the fall, that's how you go down when tripped.
posted on 18/1/20
Blatant pen for me.
It beggars that VAR did not give it.
posted on 18/1/20
Who are these blind people who believe there's any doubt there. Two players converge on Pepe. One trips PEPE, the other (the defender he's just beaten) then gets the ball.
You can't sandwich a player and one of you trip him whilst the other takes the ball. Pepe is running at speed, nowhere else for him to go but forward over a foolishly outstretched leg. NO he did not move it in time, nowhere near.
STONEWALL PENALTY but I'm not moaning about Arsenal or Man U conspiracy. EVERYBODY'S getting fecked by VAR barr Liverpool. And we already know how desperate the football establishment is to see them win a PL trophy.
I guess they figured pool just can't seem to get over the line by themselves and couldn't bare the thought they might feck it up again. VARs intro has handed them the perfect opportunity to make sure that they can't shoot themselves in the foot this year too.
And BOY ARE THEY USING IT!
posted on 18/1/20
The defender stuck his leg out and kept it there like a facking turnstile.
As stonewall as it gets.
posted on 18/1/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 24 seconds ago
VAR is a joke. They have made like 12 big decisions wrong in Man Utd games against us and nothing is done. Its like as if there is a Liverpool fan controlling VAR decisions.
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Stop it, its not biased for anyone.
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Stop giving this oxygen thief any attention
posted on 18/1/20
https://www.givemesport.com/1536769-how-the-201920-premier-league-table-would-look-if-every-refereeing-decision-was-correct
With todays incident that makes it 11 points!
posted on 18/1/20
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 13 minutes ago
https://www.givemesport.com/1536769-how-the-201920-premier-league-table-would-look-if-every-refereeing-decision-was-correct
With todays incident that makes it 11 points!
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I am feeling sick
posted on 18/1/20
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 13 minutes ago
https://www.givemesport.com/1536769-how-the-201920-premier-league-table-would-look-if-every-refereeing-decision-was-correct
With todays incident that makes it 11 points!
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I am feeling sick
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we'd have forty points and be fourth without this bs
posted on 18/1/20
comment by 4everanarsenalfan (U20629)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Arsenal_49 (U10665)
posted 13 minutes ago
https://www.givemesport.com/1536769-how-the-201920-premier-league-table-would-look-if-every-refereeing-decision-was-correct
With todays incident that makes it 11 points!
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I am feeling sick
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we'd have forty points and be fourth without this bs
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Wow, I didn't know it was that bad
posted on 19/1/20
Get a grip people. We wouldn't have picked up ALL those points. Not in the form we're in. It's not as though the were all last minute awards given/denied that cost us a nailed on result.
Not saying it didn't have an effect. Just that we need way more than VAR to be correct to fix this teams results. Form we've been in, I honestly don't think the VAR calls made much difference. If we'd gotten them, the team would have just fecked up the lead and blew the game in the same way it has been doing all season regardless. Even where VAR has played no part.
posted on 19/1/20
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you (U7905)
posted 13 hours, 27 minutes ago
It's probably a pen, but not stonewall
------
Unbelievable.
posted on 19/1/20
So VAR ref over reacted with Auba's red card. Realised that it was undermining the ref and then over reacted against by NOT over ruling Mike Dean.
Blatant pen.
posted on 19/1/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 17 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by The One (U22189)
posted 2 minutes ago
When I knew for certain var was corrupt was the disallowed winner vs Palace 😂 I still think about that decision and chuckle at how ridiculous it was and how little mention it got
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Define how its corrupt? Like in favour of certain teams?
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Yes you idiot. For spurs and Liverpool etc, against arsenal wolves etc
posted on 19/1/20
Auba was also a blatant red card
posted on 19/1/20
Plus Palace should have had a player sent off against us too.
posted on 19/1/20
The Sokratis disallowed goal against Palace is still the worst for me. To ignore a clear foul is bad, but to fabricate one to influence the result is pure corruption.
posted on 19/1/20
I think Arsenal can legitimately claim to be the most hard done by.
At least among the top clubs, if not the whole league.
posted on 19/1/20
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
Auba was also a blatant red card
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Not the point. What should have happened, as the protocol requires, the Ref should have gone to the monitor at pitch side for making the decision. You are not really supposed to re-referee the game which is why the VAR system is wrongly setup here. In Europe the ref is required to look at his judgement calls again if he has missed something.
Riley said so afterwards and thats why he was there watching the game. However this time the VAR ref chickened out because of the clarification made by Riley. It was a mistake and I wonder if Riley will have the humility to admit it. I doubt it.
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