comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 40 minutes ago
There is also the point of whether Poch is currently interested.
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That's a most valid point, and most of the board is missing it. WTF would anyone want this mess right now? And at a very steep financial cost to Paunch. A no-brainer among no-brainers.
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 30 minutes ago
Inferior squads can beat superior ones when they are more coherently in their assembly and when they benefit from the stability of tactics, training and recruitment being aligned to a consistent strategy over a period of time.
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We have NONE of that.
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In all probability the dippers and berties will already have in place plans and strategies which will cover the next five years or even more. After all it's not as though that's anything unusual in any competently run organisation.
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
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They did bottle it or never turned up as devilsknight put it
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand people wanting Ole gone, but what’s the fixation with Poch? Surely there’s better out there if the club pulls the trigger on Ole?
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He knows how to build a good squad, reached a CL final a few months ago and is available
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And he hadn’t won a game away from home since January. Is reaching a CL final and being available the barometer? Shouldn’t we be aiming higher?
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He’s considered one of the best managers in the game. And while the away record was poor last year, it as down to a culmination of things. In 2018 Spurs had the second best away record in Europe behind Bayern
I just listed the surface reasons. But this is a guy who knows how to build a very good side who can compete with anyone. Has a clearly identifiable style of play and gets the best out of his players.
A poor final few months doesn’t really tell the whole story considering very few managers stay as long as 5 years these days
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Considered by who?
So he builds a nice team and achieves what. Bottled the league in 2015/16, bottled the CL final.
In my humblest of opinions, there is absolutely no point in changing the manager while Billy Smart is in charge. That has to change first. It’s the very definition of madness, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
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They did bottle it or never turned up as devilsknight put it
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Does every team who loses a final bottle it?
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posted 38 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 5 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand people wanting Ole gone, but what’s the fixation with Poch? Surely there’s better out there if the club pulls the trigger on Ole?
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He knows how to build a good squad, reached a CL final a few months ago and is available
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And he hadn’t won a game away from home since January. Is reaching a CL final and being available the barometer? Shouldn’t we be aiming higher?
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He’s considered one of the best managers in the game. And while the away record was poor last year, it as down to a culmination of things. In 2018 Spurs had the second best away record in Europe behind Bayern
I just listed the surface reasons. But this is a guy who knows how to build a very good side who can compete with anyone. Has a clearly identifiable style of play and gets the best out of his players.
A poor final few months doesn’t really tell the whole story considering very few managers stay as long as 5 years these days
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Considered by who?
So he builds a nice team and achieves what. Bottled the league in 2015/16, bottled the CL final.
In my humblest of opinions, there is absolutely no point in changing the manager while Billy Smart is in charge. That has to change first. It’s the very definition of madness, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
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Do you think Ole is the very best manager we can get right now?
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
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They did bottle it or never turned up as devilsknight put it
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Does every team who loses a final bottle it?
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Did I say that ?
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 49 seconds ago
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posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
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They did bottle it or never turned up as devilsknight put it
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Does every team who loses a final bottle it?
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Did I say that ?
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Then how do you know they bottled it?
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posted 57 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
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They did bottle it or never turned up as devilsknight put it
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Does every team who loses a final bottle it?
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Did I say that ?
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Then how do you know they bottled it?
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How do you know they didn't ?
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand people wanting Ole gone, but what’s the fixation with Poch? Surely there’s better out there if the club pulls the trigger on Ole?
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He knows how to build a good squad, reached a CL final a few months ago and is available
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And he hadn’t won a game away from home since January. Is reaching a CL final and being available the barometer? Shouldn’t we be aiming higher?
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Tbf that's a lot higher than we aimed when appointing the current manager. Whom many people still seem to think should keep his job. So Poch must be a shoe in
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posted 16 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 57 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 49 seconds ago
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posted 0 seconds ago
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posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
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They did bottle it or never turned up as devilsknight put it
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Does every team who loses a final bottle it?
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Did I say that ?
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Then how do you know they bottled it?
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How do you know they didn't ?
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I don’t which is why I don’t throw words like ‘bottle’ around
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand people wanting Ole gone, but what’s the fixation with Poch? Surely there’s better out there if the club pulls the trigger on Ole?
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He knows how to build a good squad, reached a CL final a few months ago and is available
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And he hadn’t won a game away from home since January. Is reaching a CL final and being available the barometer? Shouldn’t we be aiming higher?
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Tbf that's a lot higher than we aimed when appointing the current manager. Whom many people still seem to think should keep his job. So Poch must be a shoe in
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It is weird logic 😂
‘I don’t want someone who made a CL final, we should keep the guy who relegated Cardiff’
Bottled it , didnt turn up were some of the words used to describe their performance in that final
Playing an unfit kane and dropping moura didn't help.
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posted 25 seconds ago
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posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand people wanting Ole gone, but what’s the fixation with Poch? Surely there’s better out there if the club pulls the trigger on Ole?
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He knows how to build a good squad, reached a CL final a few months ago and is available
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And he hadn’t won a game away from home since January. Is reaching a CL final and being available the barometer? Shouldn’t we be aiming higher?
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He’s considered one of the best managers in the game. And while the away record was poor last year, it as down to a culmination of things. In 2018 Spurs had the second best away record in Europe behind Bayern
I just listed the surface reasons. But this is a guy who knows how to build a very good side who can compete with anyone. Has a clearly identifiable style of play and gets the best out of his players.
A poor final few months doesn’t really tell the whole story considering very few managers stay as long as 5 years these days
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Considered by who?
So he builds a nice team and achieves what. Bottled the league in 2015/16, bottled the CL final.
In my humblest of opinions, there is absolutely no point in changing the manager while Billy Smart is in charge. That has to change first. It’s the very definition of madness, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
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Do you think Ole is the very best manager we can get right now?
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Absolutely not. But the managerial Merry-go-round has to stop. And unless changes are made at the top, then this will just be a rinse and repeat forum as it has been for the last 6 years.
I’ve no doubt Poch is a decent manager, but he belongs at clubs like Tottenham. We should aspire to better than that. But unless changes are made, then we might as well copy and paste all this bollox for next week/month/year........
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 35 seconds ago
Bottled it , didnt turn up were some of the words used to describe their performance in that final
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Those are just words used when sides lose finals
Doesn’t ever take into account the other side were just better on the day
It is weird logic 😂
‘I don’t want someone who made a CL final, we should keep the guy who relegated Cardiff
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Who said that
Right now we need a manager to build a team and style of play. Poch is one of the top candidates for that.
comment by Technobotnik ☢ (U22280)
posted 1 second ago
Right now we need a manager to build a team and style of play. Poch is one of the top candidates for that.
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Exactly
I remember some of these doubts back in 2015 about Klopp when people said he should take over from LVG
‘He bottles finals’ etc as if that told the whole story about his quality
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Technobotnik ☢ (U22280)
posted 1 second ago
Right now we need a manager to build a team and style of play. Poch is one of the top candidates for that.
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Exactly
I remember some of these doubts back in 2015 about Klopp when people said he should take over from LVG
‘He bottles finals’ etc as if that told the whole story about his quality
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Klopp had and has a different mentality to that. He broke BM monopoly in Germany. He’s made of similar stuff to SAF. You can see that in him. That’s what we should aspire to, that type of manager. Not Poch.
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Technobotnik ☢ (U22280)
posted 1 second ago
Right now we need a manager to build a team and style of play. Poch is one of the top candidates for that.
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Exactly
I remember some of these doubts back in 2015 about Klopp when people said he should take over from LVG
‘He bottles finals’ etc as if that told the whole story about his quality
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Just look at Barca. They have just hired a coach who I think has won nothing. They are more interested in coaching ability. Add some good players, and success should follow.
Poch is the best manager to build a team and also improve individual players.
He has a clear style of play and good tactics.
Spurs will regret what they have done.
This will be the best decision in years if Woodward appoint Poch.
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The problem with Ole
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posted on 23/1/20
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 40 minutes ago
There is also the point of whether Poch is currently interested.
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That's a most valid point, and most of the board is missing it. WTF would anyone want this mess right now? And at a very steep financial cost to Paunch. A no-brainer among no-brainers.
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 30 minutes ago
Inferior squads can beat superior ones when they are more coherently in their assembly and when they benefit from the stability of tactics, training and recruitment being aligned to a consistent strategy over a period of time.
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We have NONE of that.
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In all probability the dippers and berties will already have in place plans and strategies which will cover the next five years or even more. After all it's not as though that's anything unusual in any competently run organisation.
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 49 seconds ago
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posted 0 seconds ago
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posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
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They did bottle it or never turned up as devilsknight put it
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand people wanting Ole gone, but what’s the fixation with Poch? Surely there’s better out there if the club pulls the trigger on Ole?
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He knows how to build a good squad, reached a CL final a few months ago and is available
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And he hadn’t won a game away from home since January. Is reaching a CL final and being available the barometer? Shouldn’t we be aiming higher?
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He’s considered one of the best managers in the game. And while the away record was poor last year, it as down to a culmination of things. In 2018 Spurs had the second best away record in Europe behind Bayern
I just listed the surface reasons. But this is a guy who knows how to build a very good side who can compete with anyone. Has a clearly identifiable style of play and gets the best out of his players.
A poor final few months doesn’t really tell the whole story considering very few managers stay as long as 5 years these days
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Considered by who?
So he builds a nice team and achieves what. Bottled the league in 2015/16, bottled the CL final.
In my humblest of opinions, there is absolutely no point in changing the manager while Billy Smart is in charge. That has to change first. It’s the very definition of madness, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 49 seconds ago
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posted 0 seconds ago
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posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
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They did bottle it or never turned up as devilsknight put it
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Does every team who loses a final bottle it?
posted on 23/1/20
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand people wanting Ole gone, but what’s the fixation with Poch? Surely there’s better out there if the club pulls the trigger on Ole?
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He knows how to build a good squad, reached a CL final a few months ago and is available
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And he hadn’t won a game away from home since January. Is reaching a CL final and being available the barometer? Shouldn’t we be aiming higher?
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He’s considered one of the best managers in the game. And while the away record was poor last year, it as down to a culmination of things. In 2018 Spurs had the second best away record in Europe behind Bayern
I just listed the surface reasons. But this is a guy who knows how to build a very good side who can compete with anyone. Has a clearly identifiable style of play and gets the best out of his players.
A poor final few months doesn’t really tell the whole story considering very few managers stay as long as 5 years these days
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Considered by who?
So he builds a nice team and achieves what. Bottled the league in 2015/16, bottled the CL final.
In my humblest of opinions, there is absolutely no point in changing the manager while Billy Smart is in charge. That has to change first. It’s the very definition of madness, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
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Do you think Ole is the very best manager we can get right now?
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
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posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
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They did bottle it or never turned up as devilsknight put it
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Does every team who loses a final bottle it?
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Did I say that ?
posted on 23/1/20
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comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
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comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
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They did bottle it or never turned up as devilsknight put it
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Does every team who loses a final bottle it?
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Did I say that ?
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Then how do you know they bottled it?
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
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comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
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comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
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comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
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comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
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They did bottle it or never turned up as devilsknight put it
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Does every team who loses a final bottle it?
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Did I say that ?
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Then how do you know they bottled it?
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How do you know they didn't ?
posted on 23/1/20
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand people wanting Ole gone, but what’s the fixation with Poch? Surely there’s better out there if the club pulls the trigger on Ole?
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He knows how to build a good squad, reached a CL final a few months ago and is available
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And he hadn’t won a game away from home since January. Is reaching a CL final and being available the barometer? Shouldn’t we be aiming higher?
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Tbf that's a lot higher than we aimed when appointing the current manager. Whom many people still seem to think should keep his job. So Poch must be a shoe in
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 3 minutes ago
Reached a CL final is a huge acheivement apparently
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It’s a shame they never turned up though........
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No they bottled it
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Bottled it/lost to a side everyone is losing to now
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A ready made excuse if he arrives so
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It’s a strange way to look at things
Seeing a manager take a club to a CL final after a summer where his club spent a grand total of £0 and playing the vast majority of the campaign with no home ground and calling it ‘bottling it’
Very strange
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They did bottle it or never turned up as devilsknight put it
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Does every team who loses a final bottle it?
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Did I say that ?
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Then how do you know they bottled it?
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How do you know they didn't ?
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I don’t which is why I don’t throw words like ‘bottle’ around
posted on 23/1/20
comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't be our Special One? (U1132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand people wanting Ole gone, but what’s the fixation with Poch? Surely there’s better out there if the club pulls the trigger on Ole?
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He knows how to build a good squad, reached a CL final a few months ago and is available
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And he hadn’t won a game away from home since January. Is reaching a CL final and being available the barometer? Shouldn’t we be aiming higher?
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Tbf that's a lot higher than we aimed when appointing the current manager. Whom many people still seem to think should keep his job. So Poch must be a shoe in
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It is weird logic 😂
‘I don’t want someone who made a CL final, we should keep the guy who relegated Cardiff’
posted on 23/1/20
Bottled it , didnt turn up were some of the words used to describe their performance in that final
posted on 23/1/20
Playing an unfit kane and dropping moura didn't help.
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
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comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
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comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
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comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
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comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 2 minutes ago
I can understand people wanting Ole gone, but what’s the fixation with Poch? Surely there’s better out there if the club pulls the trigger on Ole?
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He knows how to build a good squad, reached a CL final a few months ago and is available
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And he hadn’t won a game away from home since January. Is reaching a CL final and being available the barometer? Shouldn’t we be aiming higher?
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He’s considered one of the best managers in the game. And while the away record was poor last year, it as down to a culmination of things. In 2018 Spurs had the second best away record in Europe behind Bayern
I just listed the surface reasons. But this is a guy who knows how to build a very good side who can compete with anyone. Has a clearly identifiable style of play and gets the best out of his players.
A poor final few months doesn’t really tell the whole story considering very few managers stay as long as 5 years these days
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Considered by who?
So he builds a nice team and achieves what. Bottled the league in 2015/16, bottled the CL final.
In my humblest of opinions, there is absolutely no point in changing the manager while Billy Smart is in charge. That has to change first. It’s the very definition of madness, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
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Do you think Ole is the very best manager we can get right now?
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Absolutely not. But the managerial Merry-go-round has to stop. And unless changes are made at the top, then this will just be a rinse and repeat forum as it has been for the last 6 years.
I’ve no doubt Poch is a decent manager, but he belongs at clubs like Tottenham. We should aspire to better than that. But unless changes are made, then we might as well copy and paste all this bollox for next week/month/year........
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 35 seconds ago
Bottled it , didnt turn up were some of the words used to describe their performance in that final
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Those are just words used when sides lose finals
Doesn’t ever take into account the other side were just better on the day
posted on 23/1/20
It is weird logic 😂
‘I don’t want someone who made a CL final, we should keep the guy who relegated Cardiff
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Who said that
posted on 23/1/20
Right now we need a manager to build a team and style of play. Poch is one of the top candidates for that.
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Technobotnik ☢ (U22280)
posted 1 second ago
Right now we need a manager to build a team and style of play. Poch is one of the top candidates for that.
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Exactly
I remember some of these doubts back in 2015 about Klopp when people said he should take over from LVG
‘He bottles finals’ etc as if that told the whole story about his quality
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Technobotnik ☢ (U22280)
posted 1 second ago
Right now we need a manager to build a team and style of play. Poch is one of the top candidates for that.
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Exactly
I remember some of these doubts back in 2015 about Klopp when people said he should take over from LVG
‘He bottles finals’ etc as if that told the whole story about his quality
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Klopp had and has a different mentality to that. He broke BM monopoly in Germany. He’s made of similar stuff to SAF. You can see that in him. That’s what we should aspire to, that type of manager. Not Poch.
posted on 23/1/20
comment by Robb Fernandes (U22311)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Technobotnik ☢ (U22280)
posted 1 second ago
Right now we need a manager to build a team and style of play. Poch is one of the top candidates for that.
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Exactly
I remember some of these doubts back in 2015 about Klopp when people said he should take over from LVG
‘He bottles finals’ etc as if that told the whole story about his quality
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Just look at Barca. They have just hired a coach who I think has won nothing. They are more interested in coaching ability. Add some good players, and success should follow.
posted on 23/1/20
Poch is the best manager to build a team and also improve individual players.
He has a clear style of play and good tactics.
Spurs will regret what they have done.
This will be the best decision in years if Woodward appoint Poch.
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