comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can't say the entire electorate didn't care.
Some didn't, sure.
But it isn't as simple as that.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remain was sold as money and economics....leave did a silly bus ad too, but for leavers it was not solely based on cash.
If you don't get that you don't understand brexit and British people.
From punk to being an independent island nation to standing up to Hitler and ussr etc.
It's a mindset too...not about wonga
comment by Cal Neva - Lisa For Leader (U11544)
posted 1 minute ago
I wonder who the Brexiteers will turn on when things go wrong. Probably still the EU when they play awkward in the negotiations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh the usual, The EU, immigrants, refugees, people of colour, Muslims, lefties.
It’ll be like the rapture the way sizzle is describing it
Fire and brimstone and the Antichrist
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remain was sold as money and economics....leave did a silly bus ad too, but for leavers it was not solely based on cash.
If you don't get that you don't understand brexit and British people.
From punk to being an independent island nation to standing up to Hitler and ussr etc.
It's a mindset too...not about wonga
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From standing up to Hitler to embracing fascism in our own country.
Have you no shame?
Our war dead will be spinning in their graves today.
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 36 seconds ago
It’ll be like the rapture the way sizzle is describing it
Fire and brimstone and the Antichrist
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it will be a slow steady decline of lost industry, businesses and jobs and an erosion of rights, freedoms and protections.
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remain was sold as money and economics....leave did a silly bus ad too, but for leavers it was not solely based on cash.
If you don't get that you don't understand brexit and British people.
From punk to being an independent island nation to standing up to Hitler and ussr etc.
It's a mindset too...not about wonga
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From standing up to Hitler to embracing fascism in our own country.
Have you no shame?
Our war dead will be spinning in their graves today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our war dead were killed by Germans and Italians the spinning would have been done in 73.
comment by Cal Neva - Lisa For Leader (U11544)
posted 4 minutes ago
I wonder who the Brexiteers will turn on when things go wrong. Probably still the EU when they play awkward in the negotiations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will be the 'remoaners' and the 'looney left's' fault for not believing. Its so predictable.
Says a lot that there's numerous brexit voters on this thread and not one of you have managed to give GT a reason for being happy we're leaving.
Can't be that hard to explain why you voted surely?
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Cal Neva - Lisa For Leader (U11544)
posted 4 minutes ago
I wonder who the Brexiteers will turn on when things go wrong. Probably still the EU when they play awkward in the negotiations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will be the 'remoaners' and the 'looney left's' fault for not believing. Its so predictable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
comment by Cal Neva - Lisa For Leader (U11544)
posted 14 seconds ago
I thought Hitler and the USSR were on different sides.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They were.
History is not a Brexiters strong point.
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comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remain was sold as money and economics....leave did a silly bus ad too, but for leavers it was not solely based on cash.
If you don't get that you don't understand brexit and British people.
From punk to being an independent island nation to standing up to Hitler and ussr etc.
It's a mindset too...not about wonga
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From standing up to Hitler to embracing fascism in our own country.
Have you no shame?
Our war dead will be spinning in their graves today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our war dead were killed by Germans and Italians the spinning would have been done in 73.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually you'll find that the majority of the WWII generation were pro EU because they understood the need to have a Europe that works together without isolationism.
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 8 minutes ago
A nice glass of South American Red mate. None of that European trash
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's your reason for being happy? Genuinely curious.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You have had 3 and a half years to discuss and moan about it.
Today we celebrate
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remain was sold as money and economics....leave did a silly bus ad too, but for leavers it was not solely based on cash.
If you don't get that you don't understand brexit and British people.
From punk to being an independent island nation to standing up to Hitler and ussr etc.
It's a mindset too...not about wonga
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From standing up to Hitler to embracing fascism in our own country.
Have you no shame?
Our war dead will be spinning in their graves today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our war dead were killed by Germans and Italians the spinning would have been done in 73.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually you'll find that the majority of the WWII generation were pro EU because they understood the need to have a Europe that works together without isolationism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Overwhelmingly Pro EU, as they have witnessed Nationalism and fascism first hand.
They literally fought and died for a United Europe.
Cal.
Hey you, don't join the pedantic cabal mate, lol.
We opposed facism, natzis and communism....
Hitler and USSR....not during WW2, you cheeky monkey .♥️
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by TUX (U5315)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TUX (U5315)
posted 1 minute ago
''YOU f*cking make it work. I have no intention of helping to clean up your toxic mess''.
-----------------------------------------------
The EU is also a toxic mess tbf.
It's an economic shiiitfest.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it though?
Based on what? What you read in the Daily Fail?
Educate yourself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm 51.
Been retired around 3yrs.
I follow independent financiers who have no axe to grind ie no bias.
I'm always ''educating myself''.
You appear to know little regarding the EU in all honesty, not the actions of the ECB let alone the problems at Deutshe Bank, so maybe you study the largest economy in the world instead (that would make sense). If so, your thoughts on Sept 17th 2019 regarding the 'Repo-Market', The Feds actions and the financial consequences for us all would be welcome bud.
There are far larger problems ahead for all of us that makes Brexit pretty much an irrelevance.
As i stated earlier, please can we all stop spitting dummies
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well I know it’s provided 70 years of peace, prosperity, citizenship, rights, freedoms and protections for Europe and her people, and we are throwing it away because a bunch of uneducated racists don’t like to hear a foreign accent down the doctors or on the bus.
Prove me wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I have nothing to prove bud.
I didn't vote in the referendum for the same reason that i haven't voted since my mid-twenties, ie nothing changes for the betterment of the public, only ever for the 1%.
We're currently in the biggest 'boom' (pfft) in history yet people are in more debt than ever, reliance on credit (borrowing from your future to pay for your present) is at record levels...............yet the wealth gap continues increase?
Whether in or out is irrelevant. I can understand why many voted 'out' just as i understand why many voted 'in' but ultimately nothing will change for the better/worse for either side.
The wheels that have led us down this indebted path for the past 40yrs or so will continue to grind us all down regardless.
Jeez, i sound like a miserable old fart!!!!
Lots of people stood up to Hitler.
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remain was sold as money and economics....leave did a silly bus ad too, but for leavers it was not solely based on cash.
If you don't get that you don't understand brexit and British people.
From punk to being an independent island nation to standing up to Hitler and ussr etc.
It's a mindset too...not about wonga
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From standing up to Hitler to embracing fascism in our own country.
Have you no shame?
Our war dead will be spinning in their graves today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our war dead were killed by Germans and Italians the spinning would have been done in 73.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually you'll find that the majority of the WWII generation were pro EU because they understood the need to have a Europe that works together without isolationism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Overwhelmingly Pro EU, as they have witnessed Nationalism and fascism first hand.
They literally fought and died for a United Europe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nope, it was to stop Hitler, not create a political union turning into an empire.....losing sovereignty, control, identity etc.
No reason we cannot work with Europe in peace Now.
Drama queens
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
The uncomfortable truth is if you want to be completely *sovereign* (in a globalised world) there will be consequences/trade-offs.
Trade/economics is based on harmonisation, and/or mutual recognition. Currently all goods, services, and capitol throughout the EU are considered as domestic. i.e a consignment from Glasgow to London is treated the same as a consignment from Glasgow to Lisbon.
After Brexit UK goods, services, and capitol will be treated as third country. Rendering them harder to export into the EU’s internal market.
Thus placing UK businesses at a competitive disadvantage compared to their European counterparts, and international businesses based in countries that have preferential market access to the EU's internal market.
This will lead to costs and impediments the majority of UK businesses have never faced before. Smaller businesses may find it harder to cope. Most will have never had to complete customs declarations before, and if paperwork not 100%, produce does not enter the EU.
Those peddling sovereignty have not been forthright in regard to the impact this will have on businesses and communities up and down the country.
comment by Cal Neva - Lisa For Leader (U11544)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 33 seconds ago
Cal.
Hey you, don't join the pedantic cabal mate, lol.
We opposed facism, natzis and communism....
Hitler and USSR....not during WW2, you cheeky monkey .♥️
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How did we oppose the USSR ?
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Cold war NATO with America....Ronnie and Maggie.♥️
UK rejected racism and communism.
Is that simpler?
Are you on the wum, Cal?
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 8 minutes ago
A nice glass of South American Red mate. None of that European trash
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's your reason for being happy? Genuinely curious.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You have had 3 and a half years to discuss and moan about it.
Today we celebrate
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But what is it you're celebrating?
Sign in if you want to comment
Happy Brexit Day
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posted on 31/1/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can't say the entire electorate didn't care.
Some didn't, sure.
But it isn't as simple as that.
posted on 31/1/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remain was sold as money and economics....leave did a silly bus ad too, but for leavers it was not solely based on cash.
If you don't get that you don't understand brexit and British people.
From punk to being an independent island nation to standing up to Hitler and ussr etc.
It's a mindset too...not about wonga
posted on 31/1/20
comment by Cal Neva - Lisa For Leader (U11544)
posted 1 minute ago
I wonder who the Brexiteers will turn on when things go wrong. Probably still the EU when they play awkward in the negotiations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh the usual, The EU, immigrants, refugees, people of colour, Muslims, lefties.
posted on 31/1/20
It’ll be like the rapture the way sizzle is describing it
Fire and brimstone and the Antichrist
posted on 31/1/20
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remain was sold as money and economics....leave did a silly bus ad too, but for leavers it was not solely based on cash.
If you don't get that you don't understand brexit and British people.
From punk to being an independent island nation to standing up to Hitler and ussr etc.
It's a mindset too...not about wonga
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From standing up to Hitler to embracing fascism in our own country.
Have you no shame?
Our war dead will be spinning in their graves today.
posted on 31/1/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 36 seconds ago
It’ll be like the rapture the way sizzle is describing it
Fire and brimstone and the Antichrist
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No it will be a slow steady decline of lost industry, businesses and jobs and an erosion of rights, freedoms and protections.
posted on 31/1/20
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remain was sold as money and economics....leave did a silly bus ad too, but for leavers it was not solely based on cash.
If you don't get that you don't understand brexit and British people.
From punk to being an independent island nation to standing up to Hitler and ussr etc.
It's a mindset too...not about wonga
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From standing up to Hitler to embracing fascism in our own country.
Have you no shame?
Our war dead will be spinning in their graves today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our war dead were killed by Germans and Italians the spinning would have been done in 73.
posted on 31/1/20
comment by Cal Neva - Lisa For Leader (U11544)
posted 4 minutes ago
I wonder who the Brexiteers will turn on when things go wrong. Probably still the EU when they play awkward in the negotiations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will be the 'remoaners' and the 'looney left's' fault for not believing. Its so predictable.
posted on 31/1/20
Says a lot that there's numerous brexit voters on this thread and not one of you have managed to give GT a reason for being happy we're leaving.
Can't be that hard to explain why you voted surely?
posted on 31/1/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 31/1/20
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Cal Neva - Lisa For Leader (U11544)
posted 4 minutes ago
I wonder who the Brexiteers will turn on when things go wrong. Probably still the EU when they play awkward in the negotiations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will be the 'remoaners' and the 'looney left's' fault for not believing. Its so predictable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 31/1/20
comment by Cal Neva - Lisa For Leader (U11544)
posted 14 seconds ago
I thought Hitler and the USSR were on different sides.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They were.
History is not a Brexiters strong point.
posted on 31/1/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 31/1/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remain was sold as money and economics....leave did a silly bus ad too, but for leavers it was not solely based on cash.
If you don't get that you don't understand brexit and British people.
From punk to being an independent island nation to standing up to Hitler and ussr etc.
It's a mindset too...not about wonga
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From standing up to Hitler to embracing fascism in our own country.
Have you no shame?
Our war dead will be spinning in their graves today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our war dead were killed by Germans and Italians the spinning would have been done in 73.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually you'll find that the majority of the WWII generation were pro EU because they understood the need to have a Europe that works together without isolationism.
posted on 31/1/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 8 minutes ago
A nice glass of South American Red mate. None of that European trash
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's your reason for being happy? Genuinely curious.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You have had 3 and a half years to discuss and moan about it.
Today we celebrate
posted on 31/1/20
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remain was sold as money and economics....leave did a silly bus ad too, but for leavers it was not solely based on cash.
If you don't get that you don't understand brexit and British people.
From punk to being an independent island nation to standing up to Hitler and ussr etc.
It's a mindset too...not about wonga
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From standing up to Hitler to embracing fascism in our own country.
Have you no shame?
Our war dead will be spinning in their graves today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our war dead were killed by Germans and Italians the spinning would have been done in 73.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually you'll find that the majority of the WWII generation were pro EU because they understood the need to have a Europe that works together without isolationism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Overwhelmingly Pro EU, as they have witnessed Nationalism and fascism first hand.
They literally fought and died for a United Europe.
posted on 31/1/20
Cal.
Hey you, don't join the pedantic cabal mate, lol.
We opposed facism, natzis and communism....
Hitler and USSR....not during WW2, you cheeky monkey .♥️
posted on 31/1/20
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by TUX (U5315)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TUX (U5315)
posted 1 minute ago
''YOU f*cking make it work. I have no intention of helping to clean up your toxic mess''.
-----------------------------------------------
The EU is also a toxic mess tbf.
It's an economic shiiitfest.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it though?
Based on what? What you read in the Daily Fail?
Educate yourself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm 51.
Been retired around 3yrs.
I follow independent financiers who have no axe to grind ie no bias.
I'm always ''educating myself''.
You appear to know little regarding the EU in all honesty, not the actions of the ECB let alone the problems at Deutshe Bank, so maybe you study the largest economy in the world instead (that would make sense). If so, your thoughts on Sept 17th 2019 regarding the 'Repo-Market', The Feds actions and the financial consequences for us all would be welcome bud.
There are far larger problems ahead for all of us that makes Brexit pretty much an irrelevance.
As i stated earlier, please can we all stop spitting dummies
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well I know it’s provided 70 years of peace, prosperity, citizenship, rights, freedoms and protections for Europe and her people, and we are throwing it away because a bunch of uneducated racists don’t like to hear a foreign accent down the doctors or on the bus.
Prove me wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I have nothing to prove bud.
I didn't vote in the referendum for the same reason that i haven't voted since my mid-twenties, ie nothing changes for the betterment of the public, only ever for the 1%.
We're currently in the biggest 'boom' (pfft) in history yet people are in more debt than ever, reliance on credit (borrowing from your future to pay for your present) is at record levels...............yet the wealth gap continues increase?
Whether in or out is irrelevant. I can understand why many voted 'out' just as i understand why many voted 'in' but ultimately nothing will change for the better/worse for either side.
The wheels that have led us down this indebted path for the past 40yrs or so will continue to grind us all down regardless.
Jeez, i sound like a miserable old fart!!!!
posted on 31/1/20
Lots of people stood up to Hitler.
posted on 31/1/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 31/1/20
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The EU (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
PawlBawron (U1055)
That's one reason of many.
One of the biggest cons was to convince people that the reason they're poor is because of immigration.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thirds of Nissan workers in Sunderland voted leave putting their jobs at risk (which they were told would happen if the UK voted leave) they weren't conned they just didn't care.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Remain was sold as money and economics....leave did a silly bus ad too, but for leavers it was not solely based on cash.
If you don't get that you don't understand brexit and British people.
From punk to being an independent island nation to standing up to Hitler and ussr etc.
It's a mindset too...not about wonga
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From standing up to Hitler to embracing fascism in our own country.
Have you no shame?
Our war dead will be spinning in their graves today.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Our war dead were killed by Germans and Italians the spinning would have been done in 73.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually you'll find that the majority of the WWII generation were pro EU because they understood the need to have a Europe that works together without isolationism.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Overwhelmingly Pro EU, as they have witnessed Nationalism and fascism first hand.
They literally fought and died for a United Europe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nope, it was to stop Hitler, not create a political union turning into an empire.....losing sovereignty, control, identity etc.
No reason we cannot work with Europe in peace Now.
Drama queens
posted on 31/1/20
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 31/1/20
The uncomfortable truth is if you want to be completely *sovereign* (in a globalised world) there will be consequences/trade-offs.
Trade/economics is based on harmonisation, and/or mutual recognition. Currently all goods, services, and capitol throughout the EU are considered as domestic. i.e a consignment from Glasgow to London is treated the same as a consignment from Glasgow to Lisbon.
After Brexit UK goods, services, and capitol will be treated as third country. Rendering them harder to export into the EU’s internal market.
Thus placing UK businesses at a competitive disadvantage compared to their European counterparts, and international businesses based in countries that have preferential market access to the EU's internal market.
This will lead to costs and impediments the majority of UK businesses have never faced before. Smaller businesses may find it harder to cope. Most will have never had to complete customs declarations before, and if paperwork not 100%, produce does not enter the EU.
Those peddling sovereignty have not been forthright in regard to the impact this will have on businesses and communities up and down the country.
posted on 31/1/20
comment by Cal Neva - Lisa For Leader (U11544)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 33 seconds ago
Cal.
Hey you, don't join the pedantic cabal mate, lol.
We opposed facism, natzis and communism....
Hitler and USSR....not during WW2, you cheeky monkey .♥️
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How did we oppose the USSR ?
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Cold war NATO with America....Ronnie and Maggie.♥️
UK rejected racism and communism.
Is that simpler?
Are you on the wum, Cal?
posted on 31/1/20
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 8 minutes ago
A nice glass of South American Red mate. None of that European trash
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What's your reason for being happy? Genuinely curious.
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You have had 3 and a half years to discuss and moan about it.
Today we celebrate
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But what is it you're celebrating?
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