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The difference is that Auba didn't get the ball first. Shouldn't really be a consideration, but VAR tend to go with the on-field ref in that sort of thing (apart from with us).
If you dive in like a torpedo and brush the ball does the leg need to snap for a red card to be brandished or does that only apply to Arsenal players
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comment by Coutinho's Merkin (U22212)
posted 26 minutes ago
I’ve felt the same way all season.
Teams like Arsenal and Liverpool have been suffering with poor Ref decisions for years and VAR has done nothing to help them. It almost feels personal
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Agree
I don’t agree that they were identical at all.
I think Sterling was trying to kick the ball - much like Robertson against Spurs.
Auba came in with a downward challenge that wasn’t remotely like kicking the ball.
It’s all about opinions but nothing actually wrong with the decisions. Ultimately VAR can’t change the fact that we won’t all agree.
comment by (U21781)
posted 17 minutes ago
https://untold-arsenal.com/archives/79312
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Good article. I hadn't actually thought about this before usually I just focus on the obvious on pitch cheating against our team
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don’t agree that they were identical at all.
I think Sterling was trying to kick the ball - much like Robertson against Spurs.
Auba came in with a downward challenge that wasn’t remotely like kicking the ball.
It’s all about opinions but nothing actually wrong with the decisions. Ultimately VAR can’t change the fact that we won’t all agree.
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Agree 100%. Sterling was still standing upright.
I’d send him off just for generally being a diving wee fvd though.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
I don’t agree that they were identical at all.
I think Sterling was trying to kick the ball - much like Robertson against Spurs.
Auba came in with a downward challenge that wasn’t remotely like kicking the ball.
It’s all about opinions but nothing actually wrong with the decisions. Ultimately VAR can’t change the fact that we won’t all agree.
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comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
I don’t agree that they were identical at all.
I think Sterling was trying to kick the ball - much like Robertson against Spurs.
Auba came in with a downward challenge that wasn’t remotely like kicking the ball.
It’s all about opinions but nothing actually wrong with the decisions. Ultimately VAR can’t change the fact that we won’t all agree.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/tsf/status/1224022766594207745?s=21
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Stills don’t change my point and can be very misleading.
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don’t agree that they were identical at all.
I think Sterling was trying to kick the ball - much like Robertson against Spurs.
Auba came in with a downward challenge that wasn’t remotely like kicking the ball.
It’s all about opinions but nothing actually wrong with the decisions. Ultimately VAR can’t change the fact that we won’t all agree.
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Agree 100%. Sterling was still standing upright.
I’d send him off just for generally being a diving wee fvd though.
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Good point well made
Kind of does but whatever
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Kind of does but whatever
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No it doesn’t. The law is far more than just where the foot is when the challenge takes place.
I know your game bro. I’m not becoming a statistic on longest running argument with Winston on ja
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 22 seconds ago
I know your game bro. I’m not becoming a statistic on longest running argument with Winston on ja
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There’s no game - I’m just correcting you.
It’s simply not correct to imply that just because Sterling’s foot ended up where it did, it has to be a red card.
Thought it was all about opinions? Now you are ‘correcting’ me? Exposed
It is all about opinions.
But it’s incorrect that the position of the foot means it is a red card, which is why still images are of little use.
That part isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact.
By all means have the opinion that it was a red but back it up with some knowledge of the law.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 47 minutes ago
It is all about opinions.
But it’s incorrect that the position of the foot means it is a red card, which is why still images are of little use.
That part isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact.
By all means have the opinion that it was a red but back it up with some knowledge of the law.
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That was a straight red to me. I have seen VAR give reds for less.
Why do you think it was a straight red?
With respect, posting still images is mostly irrelevant.
"The VAR looked at the incident and determined that the point of contact and the intensity of the challenge endangered the safety of the opponent and recommended upgrading the yellow card to a red card for serious foul play.”
Similar point of contact today, similar intensity.
For me, both reds.
Ultimately it’s futile trying to compare two completely different incidents.
But I do think it’s fair to say that Sterling swung a leg to kick the ball where is Auba planted his foot in a downward challenge.
It’s futile comparing 2 completely different incidents.
Good thing the OP is comparing 2 pretty much identical incidents
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 6 hours, 4 minutes ago
It’s futile comparing 2 completely different incidents.
Good thing the OP is comparing 2 pretty much identical incidents
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They’re not remotely identical - challenges in football never are.
Sterling's tackle is more similar to Auba for me.
Should have been a straight red IMO.
If anyone cares to watch a video of the two, Sterling tries to kick the ball and as his foot comes up it plants onto Alli’s leg.
Similar to Robertson vs Spurs. Looked a genuine attempt at playing the ball and in control.
Aubameyang seemed to have his foot coming down in the challenge - no swing for the ball, a dangerous downward motion and not in control imo.
Whether you think yesterday was a red, it’s clear there are quite obvious differences between the two.
Of course, still images make them look similar and are misleading.
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posted on 2/2/20
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posted on 2/2/20
The difference is that Auba didn't get the ball first. Shouldn't really be a consideration, but VAR tend to go with the on-field ref in that sort of thing (apart from with us).
posted on 2/2/20
If you dive in like a torpedo and brush the ball does the leg need to snap for a red card to be brandished or does that only apply to Arsenal players
posted on 2/2/20
https://untold-arsenal.com/archives/79312
posted on 2/2/20
comment by Coutinho's Merkin (U22212)
posted 26 minutes ago
I’ve felt the same way all season.
Teams like Arsenal and Liverpool have been suffering with poor Ref decisions for years and VAR has done nothing to help them. It almost feels personal
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Agree
posted on 2/2/20
I don’t agree that they were identical at all.
I think Sterling was trying to kick the ball - much like Robertson against Spurs.
Auba came in with a downward challenge that wasn’t remotely like kicking the ball.
It’s all about opinions but nothing actually wrong with the decisions. Ultimately VAR can’t change the fact that we won’t all agree.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by (U21781)
posted 17 minutes ago
https://untold-arsenal.com/archives/79312
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Good article. I hadn't actually thought about this before usually I just focus on the obvious on pitch cheating against our team
posted on 2/2/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don’t agree that they were identical at all.
I think Sterling was trying to kick the ball - much like Robertson against Spurs.
Auba came in with a downward challenge that wasn’t remotely like kicking the ball.
It’s all about opinions but nothing actually wrong with the decisions. Ultimately VAR can’t change the fact that we won’t all agree.
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Agree 100%. Sterling was still standing upright.
I’d send him off just for generally being a diving wee fvd though.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
I don’t agree that they were identical at all.
I think Sterling was trying to kick the ball - much like Robertson against Spurs.
Auba came in with a downward challenge that wasn’t remotely like kicking the ball.
It’s all about opinions but nothing actually wrong with the decisions. Ultimately VAR can’t change the fact that we won’t all agree.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/tsf/status/1224022766594207745?s=21
posted on 2/2/20
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
I don’t agree that they were identical at all.
I think Sterling was trying to kick the ball - much like Robertson against Spurs.
Auba came in with a downward challenge that wasn’t remotely like kicking the ball.
It’s all about opinions but nothing actually wrong with the decisions. Ultimately VAR can’t change the fact that we won’t all agree.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/tsf/status/1224022766594207745?s=21
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Stills don’t change my point and can be very misleading.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don’t agree that they were identical at all.
I think Sterling was trying to kick the ball - much like Robertson against Spurs.
Auba came in with a downward challenge that wasn’t remotely like kicking the ball.
It’s all about opinions but nothing actually wrong with the decisions. Ultimately VAR can’t change the fact that we won’t all agree.
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Agree 100%. Sterling was still standing upright.
I’d send him off just for generally being a diving wee fvd though.
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Good point well made
posted on 2/2/20
Kind of does but whatever
posted on 2/2/20
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
Kind of does but whatever
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No it doesn’t. The law is far more than just where the foot is when the challenge takes place.
posted on 2/2/20
I know your game bro. I’m not becoming a statistic on longest running argument with Winston on ja
posted on 2/2/20
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 22 seconds ago
I know your game bro. I’m not becoming a statistic on longest running argument with Winston on ja
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There’s no game - I’m just correcting you.
It’s simply not correct to imply that just because Sterling’s foot ended up where it did, it has to be a red card.
posted on 2/2/20
Thought it was all about opinions? Now you are ‘correcting’ me? Exposed
posted on 2/2/20
It is all about opinions.
But it’s incorrect that the position of the foot means it is a red card, which is why still images are of little use.
That part isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact.
By all means have the opinion that it was a red but back it up with some knowledge of the law.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 47 minutes ago
It is all about opinions.
But it’s incorrect that the position of the foot means it is a red card, which is why still images are of little use.
That part isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact.
By all means have the opinion that it was a red but back it up with some knowledge of the law.
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That was a straight red to me. I have seen VAR give reds for less.
posted on 2/2/20
Why do you think it was a straight red?
With respect, posting still images is mostly irrelevant.
posted on 2/2/20
"The VAR looked at the incident and determined that the point of contact and the intensity of the challenge endangered the safety of the opponent and recommended upgrading the yellow card to a red card for serious foul play.”
Similar point of contact today, similar intensity.
For me, both reds.
posted on 2/2/20
Ultimately it’s futile trying to compare two completely different incidents.
But I do think it’s fair to say that Sterling swung a leg to kick the ball where is Auba planted his foot in a downward challenge.
posted on 3/2/20
It’s futile comparing 2 completely different incidents.
Good thing the OP is comparing 2 pretty much identical incidents
posted on 3/2/20
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 6 hours, 4 minutes ago
It’s futile comparing 2 completely different incidents.
Good thing the OP is comparing 2 pretty much identical incidents
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They’re not remotely identical - challenges in football never are.
posted on 3/2/20
Sterling's tackle is more similar to Auba for me.
Should have been a straight red IMO.
posted on 3/2/20
If anyone cares to watch a video of the two, Sterling tries to kick the ball and as his foot comes up it plants onto Alli’s leg.
Similar to Robertson vs Spurs. Looked a genuine attempt at playing the ball and in control.
Aubameyang seemed to have his foot coming down in the challenge - no swing for the ball, a dangerous downward motion and not in control imo.
Whether you think yesterday was a red, it’s clear there are quite obvious differences between the two.
Of course, still images make them look similar and are misleading.
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