Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
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posted 10 minutes ago
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posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 45 seconds ago
“Reckless” means that the player has acted with
complete disregard of the danger to, or consequences
for, his opponent:
a player who plays in a reckless manner shall be
cautioned
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I suppose what they’re saying is you can recklessly fly into a tackle with no thought about endangering your opponent, snap his leg in two, and you’ll be booked
Fair enough
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Yes, if you weren't using excessive force and you were making a genuine attempt for the ball. Which is fair enough in my book.
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How on Earth do you measure excessive force?
If his leg snaps, surely that’s excessive enough
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Any time a player adds additional force apart from the natural action they are doing. So for example, jumping off the ground or keeping the leg raised after the natural follow through. A leg snap isn't always just about that though.
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But how would you know if a player is holding back or not, only the player himself knows if he’s putting everything into the challenge or pulling back a little
It was a genuine attempt for the ball, no malice and his studs wern't up.
Shouldn't have even been a yellow unlike the Aurier lunge on Mahrez that didn't even get a mention.
Haha, “shouldn’t have even been a yellow”
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comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 45 seconds ago
“Reckless” means that the player has acted with
complete disregard of the danger to, or consequences
for, his opponent:
a player who plays in a reckless manner shall be
cautioned
———
I suppose what they’re saying is you can recklessly fly into a tackle with no thought about endangering your opponent, snap his leg in two, and you’ll be booked
Fair enough
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Yes, if you weren't using excessive force and you were making a genuine attempt for the ball. Which is fair enough in my book.
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How on Earth do you measure excessive force?
If his leg snaps, surely that’s excessive enough
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Any time a player adds additional force apart from the natural action they are doing. So for example, jumping off the ground or keeping the leg raised after the natural follow through. A leg snap isn't always just about that though.
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But how would you know if a player is holding back or not, only the player himself knows if he’s putting everything into the challenge or pulling back a little
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Yes, which is why it's always subjective. Some are obvious, some aren't, but that's part of what people don't realise with these kinds of debates. It's valid to think either and that's why VAR will never overturn a challenge like that - it's not clear and obvious.
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
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Just watched the replay and it looks a penalty to me. Certainly not a yellow card for a dive as there is clear contact.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
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Just watched the replay and it looks a penalty to me. Certainly not a yellow card for a dive as there is clear contact.
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Didn't see anything from those match of the day replays that showed clear contact.
Either way, it doesn't alter the ridiculous nature of what Jenas said, which was basically even though you haven't been touched, which he thought Sterling hadn't been, you should go down anyway.
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
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Just watched the replay and it looks a penalty to me. Certainly not a yellow card for a dive as there is clear contact.
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Didn't see anything from those match of the day replays that showed clear contact.
Either way, it doesn't alter the ridiculous nature of what Jenas said, which was basically even though you haven't been touched, which he thought Sterling hadn't been, you should go down anyway.
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Yeah Jenas is the worst pundit out there. Can't stand the stuff he comes out with. Seems like a nice guy but talks absolute rubbish.
It was a nailed on red card just like Aubameyang’s red. Why are all the same pundits who said Auba’s red was the correct decision are now saying that Sterling’s foul wasn’t
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson #TaintedTitle (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It was a genuine attempt for the ball, no malice and his studs wern't up.
Shouldn't have even been a yellow unlike the Aurier lunge on Mahrez that didn't even get a mention.
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Studs weren't up?
They firmly implanted in Dele's leg. I'm not sure it should be a straight red, though you'll see some refs give it. It was clearly a bad foul - late and reckless. Very lucky not to do more damage, although it did eventually lead to him coming off so we'll see.
Not a red card for me.
Just because someone’s foot ends up connecting with the opposition player’s ankle doesn’t make it serious foul play.
Slow motion and images make it look bad but in real time I struggle to see how anyone can make a case for that being serious foul play.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
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Just watched the replay and it looks a penalty to me. Certainly not a yellow card for a dive as there is clear contact.
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Yeah, it looked like a penalty to me too. What a spectacle it would have been
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posted 17 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
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Just watched the replay and it looks a penalty to me. Certainly not a yellow card for a dive as there is clear contact.
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Yeah, it looked like a penalty to me too. What a spectacle it would have been
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It would look like one to Liverpool fans I understand. Years of watching their players fall over like being shot at whenever they are touched in the box, the latest one is on sat where Origi fell over in a heap in a crowded box to earn a nice pen? Of course Liverpool favs think any contact in the box merits a pen for them?
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson #TaintedTitle (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It was a genuine attempt for the ball, no malice and his studs wern't up.
Shouldn't have even been a yellow unlike the Aurier lunge on Mahrez that didn't even get a mention.
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Studs weren't up?
They firmly implanted in Dele's leg. I'm not sure it should be a straight red, though you'll see some refs give it. It was clearly a bad foul - late and reckless. Very lucky not to do more damage, although it did eventually lead to him coming off so we'll see.
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Definate foul but he got him with his instep.
Not quite in the same league as Alli's assault on KdB a while back which was deliberate and put him out of the game for 6 weeks.
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
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Just watched the replay and it looks a penalty to me. Certainly not a yellow card for a dive as there is clear contact.
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Yeah, it looked like a penalty to me too. What a spectacle it would have been
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It would look like one to Liverpool fans I understand. Years of watching their players fall over like being shot at whenever they are touched in the box, the latest one is on sat where Origi fell over in a heap in a crowded box to earn a nice pen? Of course Liverpool favs think any contact in the box merits a pen for them?
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& Morespunk
If you look up a picture of unbiased in the dictionary there’s a picture of Boris.
I love the way he’s so fair and balanced on every subject.
There was quite obviously contact, Jenas is a biased twonk
In real time i thought Sterling would walk.
After watching the slo-mo's i thought Sterling would walk.
Red for me.
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 7 hours, 54 minutes ago
It was a nailed on red card just like Aubameyang’s red. Why are all the same pundits who said Auba’s red was the correct decision are now saying that Sterling’s foul wasn’t
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Nowhere near the same as the Aubameyang one for me. Aubameyang comes in very late, nowhere near the ball and to be honest it looks to me like he could have pulled out of it but chose to keep his foot in.
clear as day red imo. not in control, over the top, studs up. Thought it straight away, was proved right on the replays.
Proved right?
VAR disagreed, so clearly not.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 21 seconds ago
Proved right?
VAR disagreed, so clearly not.
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baffling isn't it.
Either way, should have walked.
By letter of the law it was a yellow and both the on-field ref and VAR-ref thought that.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 minute ago
By letter of the law it was a yellow and both the on-field ref and VAR-ref thought that.
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what is the letter of the law? If you could send me a link to where it says it is a yellow?
I thought dangerous play was a red.
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posted on 2/2/20
Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
posted on 2/2/20
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 45 seconds ago
“Reckless” means that the player has acted with
complete disregard of the danger to, or consequences
for, his opponent:
a player who plays in a reckless manner shall be
cautioned
———
I suppose what they’re saying is you can recklessly fly into a tackle with no thought about endangering your opponent, snap his leg in two, and you’ll be booked
Fair enough
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, if you weren't using excessive force and you were making a genuine attempt for the ball. Which is fair enough in my book.
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How on Earth do you measure excessive force?
If his leg snaps, surely that’s excessive enough
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Any time a player adds additional force apart from the natural action they are doing. So for example, jumping off the ground or keeping the leg raised after the natural follow through. A leg snap isn't always just about that though.
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But how would you know if a player is holding back or not, only the player himself knows if he’s putting everything into the challenge or pulling back a little
posted on 2/2/20
It was a genuine attempt for the ball, no malice and his studs wern't up.
Shouldn't have even been a yellow unlike the Aurier lunge on Mahrez that didn't even get a mention.
posted on 2/2/20
Haha, “shouldn’t have even been a yellow”
posted on 2/2/20
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 45 seconds ago
“Reckless” means that the player has acted with
complete disregard of the danger to, or consequences
for, his opponent:
a player who plays in a reckless manner shall be
cautioned
———
I suppose what they’re saying is you can recklessly fly into a tackle with no thought about endangering your opponent, snap his leg in two, and you’ll be booked
Fair enough
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, if you weren't using excessive force and you were making a genuine attempt for the ball. Which is fair enough in my book.
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How on Earth do you measure excessive force?
If his leg snaps, surely that’s excessive enough
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Any time a player adds additional force apart from the natural action they are doing. So for example, jumping off the ground or keeping the leg raised after the natural follow through. A leg snap isn't always just about that though.
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But how would you know if a player is holding back or not, only the player himself knows if he’s putting everything into the challenge or pulling back a little
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Yes, which is why it's always subjective. Some are obvious, some aren't, but that's part of what people don't realise with these kinds of debates. It's valid to think either and that's why VAR will never overturn a challenge like that - it's not clear and obvious.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
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Just watched the replay and it looks a penalty to me. Certainly not a yellow card for a dive as there is clear contact.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
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Just watched the replay and it looks a penalty to me. Certainly not a yellow card for a dive as there is clear contact.
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Didn't see anything from those match of the day replays that showed clear contact.
Either way, it doesn't alter the ridiculous nature of what Jenas said, which was basically even though you haven't been touched, which he thought Sterling hadn't been, you should go down anyway.
posted on 3/2/20
I thought was pen too
posted on 3/2/20
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
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Just watched the replay and it looks a penalty to me. Certainly not a yellow card for a dive as there is clear contact.
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Didn't see anything from those match of the day replays that showed clear contact.
Either way, it doesn't alter the ridiculous nature of what Jenas said, which was basically even though you haven't been touched, which he thought Sterling hadn't been, you should go down anyway.
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Yeah Jenas is the worst pundit out there. Can't stand the stuff he comes out with. Seems like a nice guy but talks absolute rubbish.
posted on 3/2/20
It was a nailed on red card just like Aubameyang’s red. Why are all the same pundits who said Auba’s red was the correct decision are now saying that Sterling’s foul wasn’t
posted on 3/2/20
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson #TaintedTitle (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It was a genuine attempt for the ball, no malice and his studs wern't up.
Shouldn't have even been a yellow unlike the Aurier lunge on Mahrez that didn't even get a mention.
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Studs weren't up?
They firmly implanted in Dele's leg. I'm not sure it should be a straight red, though you'll see some refs give it. It was clearly a bad foul - late and reckless. Very lucky not to do more damage, although it did eventually lead to him coming off so we'll see.
posted on 3/2/20
Not a red card for me.
Just because someone’s foot ends up connecting with the opposition player’s ankle doesn’t make it serious foul play.
Slow motion and images make it look bad but in real time I struggle to see how anyone can make a case for that being serious foul play.
posted on 3/2/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
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Just watched the replay and it looks a penalty to me. Certainly not a yellow card for a dive as there is clear contact.
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Yeah, it looked like a penalty to me too. What a spectacle it would have been
posted on 3/2/20
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
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Just watched the replay and it looks a penalty to me. Certainly not a yellow card for a dive as there is clear contact.
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Yeah, it looked like a penalty to me too. What a spectacle it would have been
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It would look like one to Liverpool fans I understand. Years of watching their players fall over like being shot at whenever they are touched in the box, the latest one is on sat where Origi fell over in a heap in a crowded box to earn a nice pen? Of course Liverpool favs think any contact in the box merits a pen for them?
posted on 3/2/20
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 5 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson #TaintedTitle (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
It was a genuine attempt for the ball, no malice and his studs wern't up.
Shouldn't have even been a yellow unlike the Aurier lunge on Mahrez that didn't even get a mention.
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Studs weren't up?
They firmly implanted in Dele's leg. I'm not sure it should be a straight red, though you'll see some refs give it. It was clearly a bad foul - late and reckless. Very lucky not to do more damage, although it did eventually lead to him coming off so we'll see.
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Definate foul but he got him with his instep.
Not quite in the same league as Alli's assault on KdB a while back which was deliberate and put him out of the game for 6 weeks.
posted on 3/2/20
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Klopptimus Prime (U1282)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 6 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
Jenas talks some b0ll0x.
In regard to the penalty fracas, Jenas said Sterling was going down without contact with lloris, because in that position you have to ask the question, which in itself is the very definition of a dive, then in the next breathe, he said it wasn't a dive.πππ
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Just watched the replay and it looks a penalty to me. Certainly not a yellow card for a dive as there is clear contact.
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Yeah, it looked like a penalty to me too. What a spectacle it would have been
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It would look like one to Liverpool fans I understand. Years of watching their players fall over like being shot at whenever they are touched in the box, the latest one is on sat where Origi fell over in a heap in a crowded box to earn a nice pen? Of course Liverpool favs think any contact in the box merits a pen for them?
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& Morespunk
posted on 3/2/20
If you look up a picture of unbiased in the dictionary there’s a picture of Boris.
I love the way he’s so fair and balanced on every subject.
posted on 3/2/20
There was quite obviously contact, Jenas is a biased twonk
posted on 3/2/20
In real time i thought Sterling would walk.
After watching the slo-mo's i thought Sterling would walk.
Red for me.
posted on 3/2/20
comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 7 hours, 54 minutes ago
It was a nailed on red card just like Aubameyang’s red. Why are all the same pundits who said Auba’s red was the correct decision are now saying that Sterling’s foul wasn’t
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Nowhere near the same as the Aubameyang one for me. Aubameyang comes in very late, nowhere near the ball and to be honest it looks to me like he could have pulled out of it but chose to keep his foot in.
posted on 3/2/20
clear as day red imo. not in control, over the top, studs up. Thought it straight away, was proved right on the replays.
posted on 3/2/20
Proved right?
VAR disagreed, so clearly not.
posted on 3/2/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 21 seconds ago
Proved right?
VAR disagreed, so clearly not.
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baffling isn't it.
Either way, should have walked.
posted on 3/2/20
By letter of the law it was a yellow and both the on-field ref and VAR-ref thought that.
posted on 3/2/20
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 minute ago
By letter of the law it was a yellow and both the on-field ref and VAR-ref thought that.
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what is the letter of the law? If you could send me a link to where it says it is a yellow?
I thought dangerous play was a red.
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