Agree with much of what you say,we have certainly lost early season spark.
Too many players underperforming and as have said before Chilwells value dropping after each performance.
Not creating of scoring enough,worried about Vardy.
Next two matches will tell a lot.could be playing Man city at right time with their problems,and if can't get result against Norwich then really start to worry about Champions league football,it is all in our own hands.
Not sure if we will get much more out of Vardy but could do worse than look at Ivan Twomey at Peterborough,seen him few times and think he has potential at higher level
I don't follow your logic that if you had been playing well it would have been a good point but because you aren't it isn't. Surely the opposite is true?
I watched the game and considering your current situation, I thought the tactics were spot on. It was disappointing that Vardy was feeding of scraps, yes but you would have hoped when Wolves started pushing in the last ten Vardy would have had more support on the counter. This didnt happen as Choudhury was an idiot.
Ultimately you cemented your position a little further and drew away to a team all the top teams in the league have found it difficult against. This builds confidence, from a position where you're bot playing well, rather than draining it from a position of playing well. The opposite to what you say.
Also I find it strange how negative some of you are on here. You're third in the table. You've picked up 50 points with 36 still to play for. These are surely exciting times as you go back into the CL next season. For me you have a much better side than the season you won the league and a much better manager and therefore a better chance to progress further.
“We need Wilf back” is a fine observation but not a solution. If he’s not available then the 4-1-4-1 becomes a problem, with the middle 4 unsure whether to attack or defend. At least 4-2-3-1 gives us some defensive solidity.
I don’t see that Vardy was a problem last night, the whole team so rarely got into a position where he could influence the game. So we do need a change, at least until Wilf’s back. I might actually welcome 3 at the back for a while...
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't follow your logic that if you had been playing well it would have been a good point but because you aren't it isn't. Surely the opposite is true?
I watched the game and considering your current situation, I thought the tactics were spot on. It was disappointing that Vardy was feeding of scraps, yes but you would have hoped when Wolves started pushing in the last ten Vardy would have had more support on the counter. This didnt happen as Choudhury was an idiot.
Ultimately you cemented your position a little further and drew away to a team all the top teams in the league have found it difficult against. This builds confidence, from a position where you're bot playing well, rather than draining it from a position of playing well. The opposite to what you say.
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I understand your reasoning, but what I mean be a bad point is that we didn’t deserve it, and it comes following many bad games, rather than just an off day where we escaped with a point.
Instead it was a a continuation of worrying form. Yes there’s no denying we’re in a great position and Rodgers is doing an amazing job. Nobody is questioning that. All I’m saying though is averaging a point a game for the last 10 is relegation form and if continued, we’d be sliding out of the CL places. After such a wonderful start to the season, you can surely see how frustrating that would be.
Dunge - agree and think we might see Bennett for the first time against Man City. If not I worry about our defence.
IMO leicester have enough points to fall over the line now.
Chilwell's head must have been turned and he must be already thinking of playing in manchester so he needs dropping.
after that you played wolves and got a draw. thats a big result against one of the top 4 rivals in theory.
The reality is leicester had a great run before christmas where the games were of a level and leicester will get a run again where the games are easier by the end.
3rd no problem. Move on and reinvest the chilwell money and keep building.
Where would Chilwell go? City? Not likely. Utd? Doubt it.
Is it the formations that are the issue or the total lack of intensity we're showing recently, during the excellent run we were closing teams down high up the pitch and moving the ball a lot quicker.
It's almost 'Puel ball' these days, retaining possession and passing it along the back line with no movement in front of that back line.
Is that all down to Ndidi missing, I'm quite sure it started before he got injured.
PS - Wolves fans have far more reason to be complaining, what a totally negative game plan they had, with their exciting squad, at home and playing a team like Leicester they should have taken the game to us.
I'd be royally miffed if I was a Wolves fan, the VAR decision just hides their own negativity.
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't follow your logic that if you had been playing well it would have been a good point but because you aren't it isn't. Surely the opposite is true?
I watched the game and considering your current situation, I thought the tactics were spot on. It was disappointing that Vardy was feeding of scraps, yes but you would have hoped when Wolves started pushing in the last ten Vardy would have had more support on the counter. This didnt happen as Choudhury was an idiot.
Ultimately you cemented your position a little further and drew away to a team all the top teams in the league have found it difficult against. This builds confidence, from a position where you're bot playing well, rather than draining it from a position of playing well. The opposite to what you say.
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I understand your reasoning, but what I mean be a bad point is that we didn’t deserve it, and it comes following many bad games, rather than just an off day where we escaped with a point.
Instead it was a a continuation of worrying form. Yes there’s no denying we’re in a great position and Rodgers is doing an amazing job. Nobody is questioning that. All I’m saying though is averaging a point a game for the last 10 is relegation form and if continued, we’d be sliding out of the CL places. After such a wonderful start to the season, you can surely see how frustrating that would be.
Dunge - agree and think we might see Bennett for the first time against Man City. If not I worry about our defence.
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That's fair but early in a build you're gonna have tough periods in a season and it's always the first couple of months in a new year when that's most likely. Only the team that wins the league, or in a season when there's a tight race the second placed team also, do you get a team who doesnt really have a poor period. Leicester weren't going to win the league and the position you're in, is where you should be and where you deserve to be.
The summer is the test, when you need to build on what you have, improve the squad so you can negate the poor periods and compete in Europe. You need to spend at least £100m and keep your big players. The likes of Albrighton, Morgan etc. need improved upon. Perhaps even a big name keeper who can play football to come in. You have a good balanced defence, same in midfield. You need a wide player or two and you'll be set.
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Where would Chilwell go? City? Not likely. Utd? Doubt it.
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Chelsea.
Can’t disagree with any of that TOORs. It’s only Rodgers first season so it was always going to be a transition. Klopp didn’t pull up trees until season 3 I don’t think? Time is critical for a manager.
True - agree with your views on the lack of intensity. It was totally Puel ball with no intensity. It looked tactical rather than lethargy/lack of idea.
Some good points above and totally agree with them,
I saw l Evens go to 2 players and it was handshake and smiles
So I think what we saw yesterday was
Keep it tight, sit back as in not press with intensity keep a clean sheet
It was a tactical play,
Yesterday we said about change of formation ect but we really don't have the players,
We need 4 positions, winger, defender, another defensive mid and attacking mid all European standard
top end premier league and a couple of squad players better than what we have,
And see how that develops
I'd like to see Ricardo moved further forward into the Perez position. Bring Justin into the RB slot.
comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 7 hours, 5 minutes ago
PS - Wolves fans have far more reason to be complaining, what a totally negative game plan they had, with their exciting squad, at home and playing a team like Leicester they should have taken the game to us.
I'd be royally miffed if I was a Wolves fan, the VAR decision just hides their own negativity.
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This. Exactly what I've been thinking. We were the away side and even with playing the last 20 with 10 men still managed 59% possession. Yes Wolves could have won with better finishing but it must be frustrating to see the opposition dominating the ball. It's not as if we were Liverpool, we've been poor recently and shown up as struggling if a high press is used against us.
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posted on 15/2/20
Agree with much of what you say,we have certainly lost early season spark.
Too many players underperforming and as have said before Chilwells value dropping after each performance.
Not creating of scoring enough,worried about Vardy.
Next two matches will tell a lot.could be playing Man city at right time with their problems,and if can't get result against Norwich then really start to worry about Champions league football,it is all in our own hands.
Not sure if we will get much more out of Vardy but could do worse than look at Ivan Twomey at Peterborough,seen him few times and think he has potential at higher level
posted on 15/2/20
I don't follow your logic that if you had been playing well it would have been a good point but because you aren't it isn't. Surely the opposite is true?
I watched the game and considering your current situation, I thought the tactics were spot on. It was disappointing that Vardy was feeding of scraps, yes but you would have hoped when Wolves started pushing in the last ten Vardy would have had more support on the counter. This didnt happen as Choudhury was an idiot.
Ultimately you cemented your position a little further and drew away to a team all the top teams in the league have found it difficult against. This builds confidence, from a position where you're bot playing well, rather than draining it from a position of playing well. The opposite to what you say.
posted on 15/2/20
Also I find it strange how negative some of you are on here. You're third in the table. You've picked up 50 points with 36 still to play for. These are surely exciting times as you go back into the CL next season. For me you have a much better side than the season you won the league and a much better manager and therefore a better chance to progress further.
posted on 15/2/20
“We need Wilf back” is a fine observation but not a solution. If he’s not available then the 4-1-4-1 becomes a problem, with the middle 4 unsure whether to attack or defend. At least 4-2-3-1 gives us some defensive solidity.
I don’t see that Vardy was a problem last night, the whole team so rarely got into a position where he could influence the game. So we do need a change, at least until Wilf’s back. I might actually welcome 3 at the back for a while...
posted on 15/2/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't follow your logic that if you had been playing well it would have been a good point but because you aren't it isn't. Surely the opposite is true?
I watched the game and considering your current situation, I thought the tactics were spot on. It was disappointing that Vardy was feeding of scraps, yes but you would have hoped when Wolves started pushing in the last ten Vardy would have had more support on the counter. This didnt happen as Choudhury was an idiot.
Ultimately you cemented your position a little further and drew away to a team all the top teams in the league have found it difficult against. This builds confidence, from a position where you're bot playing well, rather than draining it from a position of playing well. The opposite to what you say.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I understand your reasoning, but what I mean be a bad point is that we didn’t deserve it, and it comes following many bad games, rather than just an off day where we escaped with a point.
Instead it was a a continuation of worrying form. Yes there’s no denying we’re in a great position and Rodgers is doing an amazing job. Nobody is questioning that. All I’m saying though is averaging a point a game for the last 10 is relegation form and if continued, we’d be sliding out of the CL places. After such a wonderful start to the season, you can surely see how frustrating that would be.
Dunge - agree and think we might see Bennett for the first time against Man City. If not I worry about our defence.
posted on 15/2/20
IMO leicester have enough points to fall over the line now.
Chilwell's head must have been turned and he must be already thinking of playing in manchester so he needs dropping.
after that you played wolves and got a draw. thats a big result against one of the top 4 rivals in theory.
The reality is leicester had a great run before christmas where the games were of a level and leicester will get a run again where the games are easier by the end.
3rd no problem. Move on and reinvest the chilwell money and keep building.
posted on 15/2/20
Where would Chilwell go? City? Not likely. Utd? Doubt it.
posted on 15/2/20
Is it the formations that are the issue or the total lack of intensity we're showing recently, during the excellent run we were closing teams down high up the pitch and moving the ball a lot quicker.
It's almost 'Puel ball' these days, retaining possession and passing it along the back line with no movement in front of that back line.
Is that all down to Ndidi missing, I'm quite sure it started before he got injured.
posted on 15/2/20
PS - Wolves fans have far more reason to be complaining, what a totally negative game plan they had, with their exciting squad, at home and playing a team like Leicester they should have taken the game to us.
I'd be royally miffed if I was a Wolves fan, the VAR decision just hides their own negativity.
posted on 15/2/20
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 minutes ago
I don't follow your logic that if you had been playing well it would have been a good point but because you aren't it isn't. Surely the opposite is true?
I watched the game and considering your current situation, I thought the tactics were spot on. It was disappointing that Vardy was feeding of scraps, yes but you would have hoped when Wolves started pushing in the last ten Vardy would have had more support on the counter. This didnt happen as Choudhury was an idiot.
Ultimately you cemented your position a little further and drew away to a team all the top teams in the league have found it difficult against. This builds confidence, from a position where you're bot playing well, rather than draining it from a position of playing well. The opposite to what you say.
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I understand your reasoning, but what I mean be a bad point is that we didn’t deserve it, and it comes following many bad games, rather than just an off day where we escaped with a point.
Instead it was a a continuation of worrying form. Yes there’s no denying we’re in a great position and Rodgers is doing an amazing job. Nobody is questioning that. All I’m saying though is averaging a point a game for the last 10 is relegation form and if continued, we’d be sliding out of the CL places. After such a wonderful start to the season, you can surely see how frustrating that would be.
Dunge - agree and think we might see Bennett for the first time against Man City. If not I worry about our defence.
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That's fair but early in a build you're gonna have tough periods in a season and it's always the first couple of months in a new year when that's most likely. Only the team that wins the league, or in a season when there's a tight race the second placed team also, do you get a team who doesnt really have a poor period. Leicester weren't going to win the league and the position you're in, is where you should be and where you deserve to be.
The summer is the test, when you need to build on what you have, improve the squad so you can negate the poor periods and compete in Europe. You need to spend at least £100m and keep your big players. The likes of Albrighton, Morgan etc. need improved upon. Perhaps even a big name keeper who can play football to come in. You have a good balanced defence, same in midfield. You need a wide player or two and you'll be set.
posted on 15/2/20
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Where would Chilwell go? City? Not likely. Utd? Doubt it.
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Chelsea.
posted on 15/2/20
Can’t disagree with any of that TOORs. It’s only Rodgers first season so it was always going to be a transition. Klopp didn’t pull up trees until season 3 I don’t think? Time is critical for a manager.
True - agree with your views on the lack of intensity. It was totally Puel ball with no intensity. It looked tactical rather than lethargy/lack of idea.
posted on 15/2/20
Some good points above and totally agree with them,
I saw l Evens go to 2 players and it was handshake and smiles
So I think what we saw yesterday was
Keep it tight, sit back as in not press with intensity keep a clean sheet
It was a tactical play,
Yesterday we said about change of formation ect but we really don't have the players,
We need 4 positions, winger, defender, another defensive mid and attacking mid all European standard
top end premier league and a couple of squad players better than what we have,
And see how that develops
posted on 15/2/20
I'd like to see Ricardo moved further forward into the Perez position. Bring Justin into the RB slot.
posted on 15/2/20
comment by True Blue (U9486)
posted 7 hours, 5 minutes ago
PS - Wolves fans have far more reason to be complaining, what a totally negative game plan they had, with their exciting squad, at home and playing a team like Leicester they should have taken the game to us.
I'd be royally miffed if I was a Wolves fan, the VAR decision just hides their own negativity.
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This. Exactly what I've been thinking. We were the away side and even with playing the last 20 with 10 men still managed 59% possession. Yes Wolves could have won with better finishing but it must be frustrating to see the opposition dominating the ball. It's not as if we were Liverpool, we've been poor recently and shown up as struggling if a high press is used against us.
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