Have we ever had a newly promoted side that hasn't spent big being above many big clubs at this stage before? I doubt it. You know why? Because the big clubs are as bad as they have ever been
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
Ah okay, so you think the big clubs are struggling because the quality of other teams in the league has improved?
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Yes to an extent, the overall spread of talent is better now so smaller clubs are closer to the bigger ones now, and it's not only the level of the players it's the overall approach that has helped this, clubs are far more professional than they once were, players are fitter and look after themselves far better at all levels.
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Interesting view.
Not sure I agree entirely but I am leaning towards the United situation, and of course any United fan can tell you that we're just worse at the moment!
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Yeah that's a fair point too, there's many variables at play to point to a single thing. Like united are clearly behind where they were at their best under Fergie but have a bigger wage bill than ever for example which means raly they should be in a better position.
But then Sheffield United. Wihh a far smaller budget are flying. It suggests to me anyway that the players are simply better than they were at the lower levels and overall coaching has improved. United have just not been well coached since Fergie, but have actually employed some well experienced coaches so that's odd if you get me.
I just think it's easy to say the league is weaker and really haven't seen anything tangible to back up the claims being made.
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019--... (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
Have we ever had a newly promoted side that hasn't spent big being above many big clubs at this stage before? I doubt it. You know why? Because the big clubs are as bad as they have ever been
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You're talking about three specific clubs here in United arsenal and Chelsea, we are literally setting records this season so how are Liverpool as bad as we've ever been,. I mean seriously use some logic here.
This city sqaud is as strong as any they have had with the world's best manager at the helm and spurs squad is the best they've had in the PL arguably.
So arsenal and united have slumped having lost managers that were there for so long they were the clubs heartbeat, Chelsea have eased off on spending and went with Lampard as he's a club legend, also a transfer ban. There's actual reasons the 3 clubs are not as strong as they were at their best, it does not mean that overall the league is weaker.
kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
Absolutely - I suppose the lesson there is that these generalised comments are over simplified.
Some teams are weaker, some teams aren't.
Yeah exactly Winston, and it's not that much of a shock that Arsenal and United dipped post wenger and fergie really, Chelsea are a bit of an odd one but they are not spending like they once did so it makes sense they would be a bit weaker.
kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
What a league it would be if United recaptured the SAF days whilst Liverpool and Man City were at this level.
League is as weak as it has ever been. Just not the quality there now. Still lots of exciting games, but the real quality players in the Prem you can count on one hand now. Lots of wannabee George Bests or Jimmy Greaves, but none really capable of replacing truly world class players like those two.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019--... (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
Have we ever had a newly promoted side that hasn't spent big being above many big clubs at this stage before? I doubt it. You know why? Because the big clubs are as bad as they have ever been
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You're talking about three specific clubs here in United arsenal and Chelsea, we are literally setting records this season so how are Liverpool as bad as we've ever been,. I mean seriously use some logic here.
This city sqaud is as strong as any they have had with the world's best manager at the helm and spurs squad is the best they've had in the PL arguably.
So arsenal and united have slumped having lost managers that were there for so long they were the clubs heartbeat, Chelsea have eased off on spending and went with Lampard as he's a club legend, also a transfer ban. There's actual reasons the 3 clubs are not as strong as they were at their best, it does not mean that overall the league is weaker.
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Clearly Liverpool are very good. But the others are not and the two in city and Spurs you mention are clearly terrible right now and presumably way down on their last five year averages.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 28 minutes ago
kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
What a league it would be if United recaptured the SAF days whilst Liverpool and Man City were at this level.
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My hope is we win it this year and next then go toe to toe with United the following season to see who is first to reach 21
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 28 minutes ago
kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
What a league it would be if United recaptured the SAF days whilst Liverpool and Man City were at this level.
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My hope is we win it this year and next then go toe to toe with United the following season to see who is first to reach 21
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If United are back challenging that soon then I'd probably take that!
It is currently the strongest league in Europe and topped by the strongest team in world club football. I'm not sure what metrics can be used to determine whether or not it is stronger or weaker than 5, 10 or 15 years ago.
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Have we ever had a newly promoted side that hasn't spent big being above many big clubs at this stage before? I doubt it. You know why? Because the big clubs are as bad as they have ever been
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Could be down to the management and coaching, have you thought of that? I'd say it's unprecedented that a number of what you would class as big clubs have rookie managers. United, Chelsea and, Arsenal, classed as big clubs have inexperienced managers at the highest level.
So I'd say that also has a lot to do with it as well. This isn't all down to player quality and teams transitioning season upon season.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 52 minutes ago
League is as weak as it has ever been. Just not the quality there now. Still lots of exciting games, but the real quality players in the Prem you can count on one hand now. Lots of wannabee George Bests or Jimmy Greaves, but none really capable of replacing truly world class players like those two.
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posted 41 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 52 minutes ago
League is as weak as it has ever been. Just not the quality there now. Still lots of exciting games, but the real quality players in the Prem you can count on one hand now. Lots of wannabee George Bests or Jimmy Greaves, but none really capable of replacing truly world class players like those two.
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You know he can't help himself. 🤣
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir (U13373)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 52 minutes ago
League is as weak as it has ever been. Just not the quality there now. Still lots of exciting games, but the real quality players in the Prem you can count on one hand now. Lots of wannabee George Bests or Jimmy Greaves, but none really capable of replacing truly world class players like those two.
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As always, Sandy focusing on the only thing he knows anything about...Spurs.
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comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir (U13373)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 52 minutes ago
League is as weak as it has ever been. Just not the quality there now. Still lots of exciting games, but the real quality players in the Prem you can count on one hand now. Lots of wannabee George Bests or Jimmy Greaves, but none really capable of replacing truly world class players like those two.
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comedy gold, the bitter old fool
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posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Have we ever had a newly promoted side that hasn't spent big being above many big clubs at this stage before? I doubt it. You know why? Because the big clubs are as bad as they have ever been
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Could be down to the management and coaching, have you thought of that? I'd say it's unprecedented that a number of what you would class as big clubs have rookie managers. United, Chelsea and, Arsenal, classed as big clubs have inexperienced managers at the highest level.
So I'd say that also has a lot to do with it as well. This isn't all down to player quality and teams transitioning season upon season.
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Sheff United spent £62m which is a lot for a newly promoted side.
I remember Ipswich getting promoted and finishing 5th when United won title in 2001 so yes it has happened before.
Liverpool and City of the last 2 years are the best team the Premier League has ever seen.
Most teams would look weak in a league with those 2 teams.
But is this the best 20th placed side in PL history? I think it is. Saints who were bottom only a few months ago are now playing football you’d expect to see from a top 6 side. Wolves are a tough nut and doing excellent in Europe.
The so called lesser teams have improved making points harder to come by - Liverpool aside.
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 3 hours, 35 minutes ago
It's only normal to look back and romanticise over the teams of yesteryear.
Look at 98/99 and the treble winning United side. A fantastic achievement of course but a quick scan over the squads in the lower end of the league and you'll see that the quality was appalling. Forrest, Wimbledon, Charlton etc.
These teams would get blitzed by the sides in the lower regions of todays PL.
I honestly believe that the Norwich City of 19/20 could be a top half team in 98/99 table.
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Without a doubt.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019--... (U11551)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 14 minutes ago
If the league is weaker then you're essentially saying football isn't as good now s it once was, which is of course complete nonsense.
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Yeah but yet newbies like wolves and Sheff utd are peeing the league immediately.
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Well coached sides with talented players, hardly that shocking that a good football team are doing well.
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Also Wolves have spent an absolute fortune over the last 5 years.
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019--... (U11551)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 14 minutes ago
If the league is weaker then you're essentially saying football isn't as good now s it once was, which is of course complete nonsense.
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Yeah but yet newbies like wolves and Sheff utd are peeing the league immediately.
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Well coached sides with talented players, hardly that shocking that a good football team are doing well.
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Also Wolves have spent an absolute fortune over the last 5 years.
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As have Everton
Put the top 8 teams from England, Spain and Italy in a league. Which country would average the most points? I'm going for England.
Unless we are saying generally across Europe the quality has dropped, which is insane.
Pl teams dominate the current transfer market in terms of spending.
I think ffp has allowed weaker teams to still use the pullof the Pl to attract much better players than in previous seasons/decades.
Nearly all teams in the Pl have players that can hurt you now.
I've never seen Pl teams spend more than now and tbh I think most assume the leagues weak simply because certain big teams are under performing.
What most ignore is that these teams are largely the ones that have spent crazy sums of money badly, or not at all, which is why the usual suspects don't dominate the top 6.
I've always thought it was a weak marker tbh and had little logic applied to it.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
Put the top 8 teams from England, Spain and Italy in a league. Which country would average the most points? I'm going for England.
Unless we are saying generally across Europe the quality has dropped, which is insane.
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I don’t agree with Poyet but don’t agree with this either.
The top eight in England feels pretty weak right now.
England would come out top in that scenario TOOR. In my opinion.
As far as this topic, it’s pointless in my opinion.
It can’t be measured in any conclusive way. Nothing wrong with having an opinion on it, but the opinion - irrespective of whatever your opinion is - can’t be confirmed.
Winning is the goal of every single sport.
So just celebrate the winners? No need to say that the winner of year x is better or worse than the winner of year y.
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posted on 17/2/20
Have we ever had a newly promoted side that hasn't spent big being above many big clubs at this stage before? I doubt it. You know why? Because the big clubs are as bad as they have ever been
posted on 17/2/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
Ah okay, so you think the big clubs are struggling because the quality of other teams in the league has improved?
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Yes to an extent, the overall spread of talent is better now so smaller clubs are closer to the bigger ones now, and it's not only the level of the players it's the overall approach that has helped this, clubs are far more professional than they once were, players are fitter and look after themselves far better at all levels.
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Interesting view.
Not sure I agree entirely but I am leaning towards the United situation, and of course any United fan can tell you that we're just worse at the moment!
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Yeah that's a fair point too, there's many variables at play to point to a single thing. Like united are clearly behind where they were at their best under Fergie but have a bigger wage bill than ever for example which means raly they should be in a better position.
But then Sheffield United. Wihh a far smaller budget are flying. It suggests to me anyway that the players are simply better than they were at the lower levels and overall coaching has improved. United have just not been well coached since Fergie, but have actually employed some well experienced coaches so that's odd if you get me.
I just think it's easy to say the league is weaker and really haven't seen anything tangible to back up the claims being made.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019--... (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
Have we ever had a newly promoted side that hasn't spent big being above many big clubs at this stage before? I doubt it. You know why? Because the big clubs are as bad as they have ever been
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You're talking about three specific clubs here in United arsenal and Chelsea, we are literally setting records this season so how are Liverpool as bad as we've ever been,. I mean seriously use some logic here.
This city sqaud is as strong as any they have had with the world's best manager at the helm and spurs squad is the best they've had in the PL arguably.
So arsenal and united have slumped having lost managers that were there for so long they were the clubs heartbeat, Chelsea have eased off on spending and went with Lampard as he's a club legend, also a transfer ban. There's actual reasons the 3 clubs are not as strong as they were at their best, it does not mean that overall the league is weaker.
posted on 17/2/20
kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
Absolutely - I suppose the lesson there is that these generalised comments are over simplified.
Some teams are weaker, some teams aren't.
posted on 17/2/20
Yeah exactly Winston, and it's not that much of a shock that Arsenal and United dipped post wenger and fergie really, Chelsea are a bit of an odd one but they are not spending like they once did so it makes sense they would be a bit weaker.
posted on 17/2/20
kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
What a league it would be if United recaptured the SAF days whilst Liverpool and Man City were at this level.
posted on 17/2/20
League is as weak as it has ever been. Just not the quality there now. Still lots of exciting games, but the real quality players in the Prem you can count on one hand now. Lots of wannabee George Bests or Jimmy Greaves, but none really capable of replacing truly world class players like those two.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019--... (U11551)
posted 4 minutes ago
Have we ever had a newly promoted side that hasn't spent big being above many big clubs at this stage before? I doubt it. You know why? Because the big clubs are as bad as they have ever been
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You're talking about three specific clubs here in United arsenal and Chelsea, we are literally setting records this season so how are Liverpool as bad as we've ever been,. I mean seriously use some logic here.
This city sqaud is as strong as any they have had with the world's best manager at the helm and spurs squad is the best they've had in the PL arguably.
So arsenal and united have slumped having lost managers that were there for so long they were the clubs heartbeat, Chelsea have eased off on spending and went with Lampard as he's a club legend, also a transfer ban. There's actual reasons the 3 clubs are not as strong as they were at their best, it does not mean that overall the league is weaker.
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Clearly Liverpool are very good. But the others are not and the two in city and Spurs you mention are clearly terrible right now and presumably way down on their last five year averages.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 28 minutes ago
kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
What a league it would be if United recaptured the SAF days whilst Liverpool and Man City were at this level.
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My hope is we win it this year and next then go toe to toe with United the following season to see who is first to reach 21
posted on 17/2/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 28 minutes ago
kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
What a league it would be if United recaptured the SAF days whilst Liverpool and Man City were at this level.
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My hope is we win it this year and next then go toe to toe with United the following season to see who is first to reach 21
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If United are back challenging that soon then I'd probably take that!
posted on 17/2/20
It is currently the strongest league in Europe and topped by the strongest team in world club football. I'm not sure what metrics can be used to determine whether or not it is stronger or weaker than 5, 10 or 15 years ago.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Have we ever had a newly promoted side that hasn't spent big being above many big clubs at this stage before? I doubt it. You know why? Because the big clubs are as bad as they have ever been
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Could be down to the management and coaching, have you thought of that? I'd say it's unprecedented that a number of what you would class as big clubs have rookie managers. United, Chelsea and, Arsenal, classed as big clubs have inexperienced managers at the highest level.
So I'd say that also has a lot to do with it as well. This isn't all down to player quality and teams transitioning season upon season.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 52 minutes ago
League is as weak as it has ever been. Just not the quality there now. Still lots of exciting games, but the real quality players in the Prem you can count on one hand now. Lots of wannabee George Bests or Jimmy Greaves, but none really capable of replacing truly world class players like those two.
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posted on 17/2/20
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir (U13373)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 52 minutes ago
League is as weak as it has ever been. Just not the quality there now. Still lots of exciting games, but the real quality players in the Prem you can count on one hand now. Lots of wannabee George Bests or Jimmy Greaves, but none really capable of replacing truly world class players like those two.
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You know he can't help himself. 🤣
posted on 17/2/20
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir (U13373)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 52 minutes ago
League is as weak as it has ever been. Just not the quality there now. Still lots of exciting games, but the real quality players in the Prem you can count on one hand now. Lots of wannabee George Bests or Jimmy Greaves, but none really capable of replacing truly world class players like those two.
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As always, Sandy focusing on the only thing he knows anything about...Spurs.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD CHAMPIONS (U10893)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by der kloppites Hi, wie geht es dir (U13373)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 52 minutes ago
League is as weak as it has ever been. Just not the quality there now. Still lots of exciting games, but the real quality players in the Prem you can count on one hand now. Lots of wannabee George Bests or Jimmy Greaves, but none really capable of replacing truly world class players like those two.
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You know he can't help himself. 🤣
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comedy gold, the bitter old fool
posted on 17/2/20
comment by Going Loco Like Sissoko - SUPER EUROPEAN WORLD... (U10893)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Have we ever had a newly promoted side that hasn't spent big being above many big clubs at this stage before? I doubt it. You know why? Because the big clubs are as bad as they have ever been
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Could be down to the management and coaching, have you thought of that? I'd say it's unprecedented that a number of what you would class as big clubs have rookie managers. United, Chelsea and, Arsenal, classed as big clubs have inexperienced managers at the highest level.
So I'd say that also has a lot to do with it as well. This isn't all down to player quality and teams transitioning season upon season.
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Sheff United spent £62m which is a lot for a newly promoted side.
I remember Ipswich getting promoted and finishing 5th when United won title in 2001 so yes it has happened before.
posted on 17/2/20
Liverpool and City of the last 2 years are the best team the Premier League has ever seen.
Most teams would look weak in a league with those 2 teams.
But is this the best 20th placed side in PL history? I think it is. Saints who were bottom only a few months ago are now playing football you’d expect to see from a top 6 side. Wolves are a tough nut and doing excellent in Europe.
The so called lesser teams have improved making points harder to come by - Liverpool aside.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 3 hours, 35 minutes ago
It's only normal to look back and romanticise over the teams of yesteryear.
Look at 98/99 and the treble winning United side. A fantastic achievement of course but a quick scan over the squads in the lower end of the league and you'll see that the quality was appalling. Forrest, Wimbledon, Charlton etc.
These teams would get blitzed by the sides in the lower regions of todays PL.
I honestly believe that the Norwich City of 19/20 could be a top half team in 98/99 table.
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Without a doubt.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019--... (U11551)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 14 minutes ago
If the league is weaker then you're essentially saying football isn't as good now s it once was, which is of course complete nonsense.
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Yeah but yet newbies like wolves and Sheff utd are peeing the league immediately.
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Well coached sides with talented players, hardly that shocking that a good football team are doing well.
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Also Wolves have spent an absolute fortune over the last 5 years.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019--... (U11551)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 14 minutes ago
If the league is weaker then you're essentially saying football isn't as good now s it once was, which is of course complete nonsense.
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Yeah but yet newbies like wolves and Sheff utd are peeing the league immediately.
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Well coached sides with talented players, hardly that shocking that a good football team are doing well.
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Also Wolves have spent an absolute fortune over the last 5 years.
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As have Everton
posted on 17/2/20
Put the top 8 teams from England, Spain and Italy in a league. Which country would average the most points? I'm going for England.
Unless we are saying generally across Europe the quality has dropped, which is insane.
posted on 17/2/20
Pl teams dominate the current transfer market in terms of spending.
I think ffp has allowed weaker teams to still use the pullof the Pl to attract much better players than in previous seasons/decades.
Nearly all teams in the Pl have players that can hurt you now.
I've never seen Pl teams spend more than now and tbh I think most assume the leagues weak simply because certain big teams are under performing.
What most ignore is that these teams are largely the ones that have spent crazy sums of money badly, or not at all, which is why the usual suspects don't dominate the top 6.
I've always thought it was a weak marker tbh and had little logic applied to it.
posted on 17/2/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
Put the top 8 teams from England, Spain and Italy in a league. Which country would average the most points? I'm going for England.
Unless we are saying generally across Europe the quality has dropped, which is insane.
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I don’t agree with Poyet but don’t agree with this either.
The top eight in England feels pretty weak right now.
posted on 17/2/20
England would come out top in that scenario TOOR. In my opinion.
As far as this topic, it’s pointless in my opinion.
It can’t be measured in any conclusive way. Nothing wrong with having an opinion on it, but the opinion - irrespective of whatever your opinion is - can’t be confirmed.
Winning is the goal of every single sport.
So just celebrate the winners? No need to say that the winner of year x is better or worse than the winner of year y.
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