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comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 5/3/20

This will be Mourinho's 6th trophyless season in his last 8 seasons. Nothing about that suggests he's still a winner and primed to win trophies with us.

posted on 5/3/20

we've got a brewery in the ground and still can't organize
a pi$$ up

posted on 5/3/20

Sissoko getting better and better as each day goes by

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 5/3/20

Still don’t get how Jose thought playing a GK who hasn’t played for 18 months and was retired and only back to boost numbers?

Baffling selection

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 5/3/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Don, are you at all coming around to the idea that Mourinho may not win us anything mate?

I know he's been hit with injuries, but it's kind of showing he's just as beatable as a manager when he doesn't have the tools at Spurs, as anyone else.

He had improved second seasons at United and Chelsea however with us it looks like too much of a gap to bridge, and that's with Levy probably not willing to spend the sort of money that those clubs did.
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Hiw can you possibly judge Mourinho when since he has come in, Kane, Son and Sissoko are all injured, and Eriksen had gone. Just about Spurs best four players all missing or no longer at Spurs.

The time to judge him will be next season, when all the better players are back, and new faces come in.
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You might not be able to judge him properly until next season but you can still look for improvements in the side even without some of these players. Where's the improvement in the defence? Or the performances? There is none. Even Ancelotti and Arteta have got their teams to improve in some ways.

posted on 5/3/20

We've had 4 games under Jose where we've limited a team to less than 10 shots

Olympiakos
Burnley
Norwich
Middlesbrough

The main issue isn't even that the football is turgid. It's that it is turgid without doing what it is supposed to achieve.

posted on 5/3/20

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Don, are you at all coming around to the idea that Mourinho may not win us anything mate?

I know he's been hit with injuries, but it's kind of showing he's just as beatable as a manager when he doesn't have the tools at Spurs, as anyone else.

He had improved second seasons at United and Chelsea however with us it looks like too much of a gap to bridge, and that's with Levy probably not willing to spend the sort of money that those clubs did.
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Hiw can you possibly judge Mourinho when since he has come in, Kane, Son and Sissoko are all injured, and Eriksen had gone. Just about Spurs best four players all missing or no longer at Spurs.

The time to judge him will be next season, when all the better players are back, and new faces come in.
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You might not be able to judge him properly until next season but you can still look for improvements in the side even without some of these players. Where's the improvement in the defence? Or the performances? There is none. Even Ancelotti and Arteta have got their teams to improve in some ways.
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How can you look for improvement when all the best players are missing. Did you demand the same from the previous manager?

posted on 5/3/20

Where has this notion come from that they’ve let us down? They don’t owe us anything. They’re paid employees doing a job. The only people they’ve let down are themselves.

You support the CLUB. Doesn’t mean it’s not frustrating, or that the football can be awful - and there is no reason why these things can’t affect your “interest” - but we’re not let down - they have no responsibility towards us, results wise.

If you choose to support a club, take the rough with the smooth.

posted on 5/3/20

comment by Genius of Nielsen (U9059)
posted 31 seconds ago
Where has this notion come from that they’ve let us down? They don’t owe us anything. They’re paid employees doing a job. The only people they’ve let down are themselves.

You support the CLUB. Doesn’t mean it’s not frustrating, or that the football can be awful - and there is no reason why these things can’t affect your “interest” - but we’re not let down - they have no responsibility towards us, results wise.

If you choose to support a club, take the rough with the smooth.
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comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 5/3/20

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 28 minutes ago
We've had 4 games under Jose where we've limited a team to less than 10 shots

Olympiakos
Burnley
Norwich
Middlesbrough

The main issue isn't even that the football is turgid. It's that it is turgid without doing what it is supposed to achieve.
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Bus with no windows

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 5/3/20

Everyone is for sale as far as I am concerned. Kane reluctantly but we probably need to fund a rebuild. Absolutely fed up with seeing the caaaaants every week pull on the jersey and produce shytttteeee. Been going on 15 months now. They couldn’t even turn up for the CL final ffs. The facking CL final and not one caaant turned up.

Embarrassing.

posted on 5/3/20

comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone is for sale as far as I am concerned. Kane reluctantly but we probably need to fund a rebuild. Absolutely fed up with seeing the caaaaants every week pull on the jersey and produce shytttteeee. Been going on 15 months now. They couldn’t even turn up for the CL final ffs. The facking CL final and not one caaant turned up.

Embarrassing.
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Ever thought they ain't actually good enough. I have. I long ago realised that the players are just not up to it. Big clear out this summer needed, should have happened last summer, but better late than never.

posted on 5/3/20

comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 3 minutes ago
Everyone is for sale as far as I am concerned. Kane reluctantly but we probably need to fund a rebuild. Absolutely fed up with seeing the caaaaants every week pull on the jersey and produce shytttteeee. Been going on 15 months now. They couldn’t even turn up for the CL final ffs. The facking CL final and not one caaant turned up.

Embarrassing.
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Kane stays Chronic. Under no circumstances should Kane be funded for new players. Kane goes, then I think the Spurs fans will give up on the club and to right. I won’t pay to see Spurs again with Levy etc in charge If Kane is sold. He stays, end of story along with Sonny.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 5/3/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Don, are you at all coming around to the idea that Mourinho may not win us anything mate?

I know he's been hit with injuries, but it's kind of showing he's just as beatable as a manager when he doesn't have the tools at Spurs, as anyone else.

He had improved second seasons at United and Chelsea however with us it looks like too much of a gap to bridge, and that's with Levy probably not willing to spend the sort of money that those clubs did.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hiw can you possibly judge Mourinho when since he has come in, Kane, Son and Sissoko are all injured, and Eriksen had gone. Just about Spurs best four players all missing or no longer at Spurs.

The time to judge him will be next season, when all the better players are back, and new faces come in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You might not be able to judge him properly until next season but you can still look for improvements in the side even without some of these players. Where's the improvement in the defence? Or the performances? There is none. Even Ancelotti and Arteta have got their teams to improve in some ways.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

How can you look for improvement when all the best players are missing. Did you demand the same from the previous manager?
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We don't have any of our best players missing from the defence and yet it's got worse if anything under Mourinho. Fewer clean sheets under him than under Poch.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 5/3/20

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 3 minutes ago
Everyone is for sale as far as I am concerned. Kane reluctantly but we probably need to fund a rebuild. Absolutely fed up with seeing the caaaaants every week pull on the jersey and produce shytttteeee. Been going on 15 months now. They couldn’t even turn up for the CL final ffs. The facking CL final and not one caaant turned up.

Embarrassing.
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Kane stays Chronic. Under no circumstances should Kane be funded for new players. Kane goes, then I think the Spurs fans will give up on the club and to right. I won’t pay to see Spurs again with Levy etc in charge If Kane is sold. He stays, end of story along with Sonny.
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What if Kane wants to go? I don't want to sell him either though he might be at that age now contemplating moving away after another trophyless season. He's at the age that Walker moved I think. Walker already has 6 trophies and counting.

posted on 5/3/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone is for sale as far as I am concerned. Kane reluctantly but we probably need to fund a rebuild. Absolutely fed up with seeing the caaaaants every week pull on the jersey and produce shytttteeee. Been going on 15 months now. They couldn’t even turn up for the CL final ffs. The facking CL final and not one caaant turned up.

Embarrassing.
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Ever thought they ain't actually good enough. I have. I long ago realised that the players are just not up to it. Big clear out this summer needed, should have happened last summer, but better late than never.
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Now Sandy your telling porkys again, you said that the players are all experienced internationals, this was early this season and that the manager was the problem and had to go, most supporters knew the real issues, but you babbled on with this Sack Pochettino agenda, now it seems that you realise that you could have been wrong

posted on 5/3/20

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Don, are you at all coming around to the idea that Mourinho may not win us anything mate?

I know he's been hit with injuries, but it's kind of showing he's just as beatable as a manager when he doesn't have the tools at Spurs, as anyone else.

He had improved second seasons at United and Chelsea however with us it looks like too much of a gap to bridge, and that's with Levy probably not willing to spend the sort of money that those clubs did.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hiw can you possibly judge Mourinho when since he has come in, Kane, Son and Sissoko are all injured, and Eriksen had gone. Just about Spurs best four players all missing or no longer at Spurs.

The time to judge him will be next season, when all the better players are back, and new faces come in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You might not be able to judge him properly until next season but you can still look for improvements in the side even without some of these players. Where's the improvement in the defence? Or the performances? There is none. Even Ancelotti and Arteta have got their teams to improve in some ways.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

How can you look for improvement when all the best players are missing. Did you demand the same from the previous manager?
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We don't have any of our best players missing from the defence and yet it's got worse if anything under Mourinho. Fewer clean sheets under him than under Poch.
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A team plays as a unit, Sissoko missing from midfield means the defence is easily got at, and with no strikers, means the ball comes back much quicker. With both Kane and Son playing opposition have so much more to worry about, so less pressure on the defence. It ain't rocket science.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 5/3/20

Kane is our best player but he is another one who doesn’t show up for semi finals and finals. The real real crunch games he fades into obscurity like the rest of them. However, he’s still a top striker and we couldn’t get anyone better.

comment by Kano (U20144)

posted on 6/3/20

comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 9 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone is for sale as far as I am concerned. Kane reluctantly but we probably need to fund a rebuild. Absolutely fed up with seeing the caaaaants every week pull on the jersey and produce shytttteeee. Been going on 15 months now. They couldn’t even turn up for the CL final ffs. The facking CL final and not one caaant turned up.

Embarrassing.
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Ever thought they ain't actually good enough. I have. I long ago realised that the players are just not up to it. Big clear out this summer needed, should have happened last summer, but better late than never.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now Sandy your telling porkys again, you said that the players are all experienced internationals, this was early this season and that the manager was the problem and had to go, most supporters knew the real issues, but you babbled on with this Sack Pochettino agenda, now it seems that you realise that you could have been wrong
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, you're not going to get a response from Sandy nor from the cult of Mourinho

posted on 6/3/20

comment by Kano (U20144)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 9 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 minute ago
Everyone is for sale as far as I am concerned. Kane reluctantly but we probably need to fund a rebuild. Absolutely fed up with seeing the caaaaants every week pull on the jersey and produce shytttteeee. Been going on 15 months now. They couldn’t even turn up for the CL final ffs. The facking CL final and not one caaant turned up.

Embarrassing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Ever thought they ain't actually good enough. I have. I long ago realised that the players are just not up to it. Big clear out this summer needed, should have happened last summer, but better late than never.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Now Sandy your telling porkys again, you said that the players are all experienced internationals, this was early this season and that the manager was the problem and had to go, most supporters knew the real issues, but you babbled on with this Sack Pochettino agenda, now it seems that you realise that you could have been wrong
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, you're not going to get a response from Sandy nor from the cult of Mourinho
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Realise that, I'm on his hit list

posted on 6/3/20

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posted on 6/3/20

You will feel more positive next season when Mourinho has brought in three or four 6ft+ anti-footballers and turned you into one-season flat track bullies who will no doubt make top four and possibly have a couple of cup runs - might win the Europa League?

Then you’re in for a real world of despair the following year when he complains that the players he has haven’t got what it takes to make the step up to the next level.

posted on 6/3/20

Great article.

The attachment to the team does fade over time as you get older, my attachment was to great players like Gazza, Lineker, Mabbutt, Ginola, King etc etc, players that actually won things for us and got us over the line.

Someone made a great point earlier about Kane, he’s played in massive games for us to get us over the line, he hasn’t done it but yes a great player and it looks like we need better players around him to try to get rid of this bottle job tag.

Problem is how long will he wait? That’s why players have left spurs in the last 12 years, to win things, as much as it hurt why did Sol Campbell leave????

We’re not a winning team, and yes we are heading to be on a par with Everton, starved for success for even longer than us, we are heading in that direction.

Couple of seasons ago we needed a couple of players that would have possible got over the line but we never had that belief to want to push to that final step.

We should always stand behind our team but I can see why fans are frustrated, so close to achieving something now we seem to be going backwards.

One trophy in 21 years.............you can’t be classified as a big team with that haul of trophies sorry..........

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