I know you want to suck him off, but do you have to back his every decision?

Footballers nowadays are a bunch of pampered pansies and calling them out so early in their career or just after a return from injury is probably unfair.

You don't hear other top managers calling out their players as much as your hero, you need to face facts and realise he's not a top manager anymore #$pecial once

Fack off Wahl

Lets have more of it,these selfish little prats SHOULD be shown up for what they are !

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Because most players don't react well to it making it damaging

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 14 minutes ago
Just sends out the wrong message. Do it behind closed doors. The rest of the players won't like it and it creates an atmosphere of negativity and fear.
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Fear of what? What choice do you have if you are criticised in public? Do you give up or do you keep going? If you give up, no one suffers apart from you so you keep going.

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 9 minutes ago
Because most players don't react well to it making it damaging
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You have a choice. You can give up or you can keep going and try harder.

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 9 minutes ago
Because most players don't react well to it making it damaging
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You have a choice. You can give up or you can keep going and try harder.
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Ok? Just because you think the player should react well to it doesn't make it excusable for a manager to do it regardless of the player's reaction.

Good man managers know how to get the best reaction out of different players. They don't have a blanket strategy and say "if this doesn't work for you than that's your problem"

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 9 minutes ago
Because most players don't react well to it making it damaging
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You have a choice. You can give up or you can keep going and try harder.
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Ok? Just because you think the player should react well to it doesn't make it excusable for a manager to do it regardless of the player's reaction.

Good man managers know how to get the best reaction out of different players. They don't have a blanket strategy and say "if this doesn't work for you than that's your problem"
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What I'm saying is Ndombele now has a choice. He can work harder to improve himself and make Mourinho look like an idiot. Or he can feel sorry for himself, give up, and ruin his own career. It's his call. But the only one who suffers in scenario two is Ndombele.

So I ask again, why is criticising players in public wrong? Does it kill anyone? If a player gives up because they were criticised in public then the player has ruined their own career because they chose to give up instead of to keep going. And that's their problem and their fault.

If you try you hardest and fail, then you have to accept that that was the outcome you faced. But if you give up and fail, then you're the only one to blame. No one else. And no one's going to pity you for that.

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 9 minutes ago
Because most players don't react well to it making it damaging
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You have a choice. You can give up or you can keep going and try harder.
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Ok? Just because you think the player should react well to it doesn't make it excusable for a manager to do it regardless of the player's reaction.

Good man managers know how to get the best reaction out of different players. They don't have a blanket strategy and say "if this doesn't work for you than that's your problem"
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What I'm saying is Ndombele now has a choice. He can work harder to improve himself and make Mourinho look like an idiot. Or he can feel sorry for himself, give up, and ruin his own career. It's his call. But the only one who suffers in scenario two is Ndombele.
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No. Spurs suffer by not getting the most out of a talented player, which means jose suffers. He has to get the most out of his players. If Ndombele reacts well to it, great. Jose managed the situation well. If Ndombele actually needed an arm around the shoulder and patience, jose has made a mess of it and probably broken all bridges with the player, hurting spurs and limiting his own success as manager here

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It doesn't matter if you want an arm around your shoulder, if that arm never comes it's your job to grab your own shoulder and keep going.

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 14 minutes ago
Just sends out the wrong message. Do it behind closed doors. The rest of the players won't like it and it creates an atmosphere of negativity and fear.
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Fear of what? What choice do you have if you are criticised in public? Do you give up or do you keep going? If you give up, no one suffers apart from you so you keep going.
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It undermines confidence. It is not a clever thing to do imo.
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If someone undermines your confidence you can either give up and let them win or you can pick yourself up with your own strength and keep trying to work harder and create the future for yourself that you want.

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If you try your hardest and things don't work out, then you have to accept that it wasn't meant to be and you can accept that because you did everything you could.

But if you give up, then you can only blame yourself.

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
So I ask again, why is criticising players in public wrong? Does it kill anyone? If a player gives up because they were criticised in public then the player has ruined their own career because they chose to give up instead of to keep going. And that's their problem and their fault.

If you try you hardest and fail, then you have to accept that that was the outcome you faced. But if you give up and fail, then you're the only one to blame. No one else. And no one's going to pity you for that.
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You are seeing everything black and white. One size does not fit all.This sort of bullying tactic doesn't work these days as people see through it. Tbh I think you would support Mourinho if he went on the pitch and kicked his own player.
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But Ndombele's life and his career is his own responsibility. if things don't go his way and he gives up because of that, then he hasn't done everything he can to achieve what he wants and that's his fault, there's no getting around that.

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It's ridiculous. In life you'll meet people who don't acknowledge you, don't treat you the way you want to and maybe even don't like you. I'm only young, but I've experience that. But if you just get upset about it and give up as a result, you're the one who suffers, not them.

The only way to win against people like that is to keep working hard and to do the best you can and achieve the most you can.

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 45 minutes ago
It doesn't matter if you want an arm around your shoulder, if that arm never comes it's your job to grab your own shoulder and keep going.
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It's the managers job to get the best out of his players.

What is the deal with all this motivational ballacks you're talking

"Grab your own shoulder and keep going" ffs

It's the player's job to get the best out of himself. If Ndombele decides to give up because of what Mourinho has said then he can lie down and give up, be sold in a season or two, have his career take a big hit and end up having a career that was below what he could have achieved.

Mourinho will move on. Tottenham will move on. The loser with be Ndombele.

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 22 minutes ago
It's the player's job to get the best out of himself. If Ndombele decides to give up because of what Mourinho has said then he can lie down and give up, be sold in a season or two, have his career take a big hit and end up having a career that was below what he could have achieved.

Mourinho will move on. Tottenham will move on. The loser with be Ndombele.
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Or Ndombele can be sold, have a hugely successful career and leaving spurs in a worse position.

Man management is important.

Mate, how do you in life react when you face a difficult situation? Do you cry and give up or do you roll your sleeves up and work through it?

We're not talking about how a player should react. Jose shouldn't base his man management decisions on how players would ideally react to things. There is a reason why SAF didn't scream at all of his players, he knew that different players needed different things

I just don't get it. Why should the manager adapt to the needs of the player instead of the player adapting to the needs of the manager?