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How Should the Season End?

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posted on 16/3/20

comment by Scarf (U21116)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
The season should resume with a proviso to finish asap.

If it eats into next season's timetable consider the below steps.

- reduce the number of international breaks (each one is about ten days

- cancel the midseason break for 20/21 season

- cancel the league cup for 20/21 season

- scrap FA cup replays for 20/21 season

There are plenty of levers available to compact the 20/21 season by 3 months minimum.

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So your answer us wreck something else to save something that is already wrecked ?

Scrap it, start afresh in the Autumn
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So you're saying wreck something completely for something that may never start in time?

Yeah ok, even Boris Johnson will want you in briefing room B

posted on 16/3/20

comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 16 minutes ago
Whatever happens with the remainder of this season it will always be tainted, truncating a season simply would not work, once you go past the end of June and players become out of contract you are compromising the integrity of the football league, and as such if becomes meaningless.
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Yeah because acting to nullify the results, efforts and competitions played in since August 2019 isn't compromising those competitions at all

You need to review what you've written.

posted on 16/3/20

My preferable solution is to get this season finished. Anytime before September would be good enough IMO as the issues of contracts can be got around I'm sure.

As much as I don't want to see Liverpool win the league I'd much rather see my own team (hopefully) continue their recent upturn. Even if games have to be played behind closed doors it's better than any other alternative IMO. I don't think we should finish this season now though and award championships when nothing is mathematically settled as of yet.

posted on 16/3/20

comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
By the way, it would be totally unfair and terrible bad luck if this happens as Liverpool will clearly win the title this season. However, handing them the title with 9 games left isn't what sport and competitions are about,
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We're one game away from being handed it with eight games left.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 16/3/20

finish the season when safe to do so. you cannot give Liverpool the title if they can still be caught in the league, just makes a mockery of the whole thing. have to complete the season. and maybe adjust next season accordingly

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 16/3/20

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
Null and void is not an option IMO.

The best option I've heard is for existing league positions to stand, but no relegations. Top 2 teams promoted from the Championship downwards, and a 5 team relegation from the PL next season.
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makes no sense. reward those doing well in the usual way, but not the same normal treatment for those who have done badly....

just finish the league when possible. maybe season 20/21 cannot exist...

posted on 16/3/20

comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 26 minutes ago
Whatever happens with the remainder of this season it will always be tainted, truncating a season simply would not work, once you go past the end of June and players become out of contract you are compromising the integrity of the football league, and as such if becomes meaningless.
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The year of the WC in Qatar will mean the season is interrupted in 21/22. I assume this compromises the integrity of the league in the same way?

Finish the season when the game is dare to resume. You can’t just write off 3/4 of a season like that. Even if Spurs get another crack at the CL as a result.

posted on 16/3/20

#Null&Void

posted on 16/3/20

comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 9 seconds ago
finish the season when safe to do so. you cannot give Liverpool the title if they can still be caught in the league, just makes a mockery of the whole thing. have to complete the season. and maybe adjust next season accordingly
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Agree in principal but this season might not be completed until late summer. this means that next season will also be affected. The Euros has already been delayed and is now due to be played in 2021 so season 21-22 has got to finish on time which won't be possible if this season is delayed longer than a month to 6 weeks.

Unless a vaccine is found, tested and vast quantities produced in the next few weeks then I reckon the only thing we can do is to cancel this season and either carry over the points totals into next season or start afresh

posted on 16/3/20

I mean 20-21 obviously for next season

posted on 16/3/20

comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 9 seconds ago
finish the season when safe to do so. you cannot give Liverpool the title if they can still be caught in the league, just makes a mockery of the whole thing. have to complete the season. and maybe adjust next season accordingly
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Agree in principal but this season might not be completed until late summer. this means that next season will also be affected. The Euros has already been delayed and is now due to be played in 2021 so season 21-22 has got to finish on time which won't be possible if this season is delayed longer than a month to 6 weeks.

Unless a vaccine is found, tested and vast quantities produced in the next few weeks then I reckon the only thing we can do is to cancel this season and either carry over the points totals into next season or start afresh
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Or truncate the new season, retaining the integrity of this season.

If they reduced the games next season to 19 for each team, and agreed on deciding who should be the home / away team for each tie (perhaps based on historic records between the teams) then you all start afresh knowing where you stand, and games already played retain that integrity.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 16/3/20

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 9 seconds ago
finish the season when safe to do so. you cannot give Liverpool the title if they can still be caught in the league, just makes a mockery of the whole thing. have to complete the season. and maybe adjust next season accordingly
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Agree in principal but this season might not be completed until late summer. this means that next season will also be affected. The Euros has already been delayed and is now due to be played in 2021 so season 21-22 has got to finish on time which won't be possible if this season is delayed longer than a month to 6 weeks.

Unless a vaccine is found, tested and vast quantities produced in the next few weeks then I reckon the only thing we can do is to cancel this season and either carry over the points totals into next season or start afresh
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Or truncate the new season, retaining the integrity of this season.

If they reduced the games next season to 19 for each team, and agreed on deciding who should be the home / away team for each tie (perhaps based on historic records between the teams) then you all start afresh knowing where you stand, and games already played retain that integrity.

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yeah i would suggest a shortened league season next year.. or scrap the domestic cups and play two games a week for most of the seasons. 25 man squad.. up to the teams to manager their squads accordingly.


lets say new season starts in November, you could probably stretch it out to the end of May and get all 38 fixtures in if you scrap one or both of the domestic cups... lower league too. just scrap the lower league cup competition too, and the playoffs... just make it top 3 in each division goes up for one season only.

posted on 16/3/20

comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
Null and void is not an option IMO.

The best option I've heard is for existing league positions to stand, but no relegations. Top 2 teams promoted from the Championship downwards, and a 5 team relegation from the PL next season.
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makes no sense. reward those doing well in the usual way, but not the same normal treatment for those who have done badly....

just finish the league when possible. maybe season 20/21 cannot exist...
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At the end of the day, promotion and relegation really comes down to a vote held by the clubs that make up a league.

PL clubs could declare the season over and vote to send no one down and that would be the end of the matter. They could also decide to vote in 5 EFL clubs from the Championship if they felt like it.

It will all come down to a hard-nosed business decision in the end.

comment by Neo (U9135)

posted on 16/3/20

Finishing the 19/20 season and starting the next one later whilst scrapping the domestic cups is clearly the best option and the fairest on all teams.

Can easily get through the next season in 5/6 months if you do that.

posted on 16/3/20

You can't play a season over two seasons, once players become out of contract and transfer windows are open etc, the whole thing becomes compromised. If it can't be completed before the end of June, then the only option is to void the whole shabang.

posted on 16/3/20

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 9 seconds ago
finish the season when safe to do so. you cannot give Liverpool the title if they can still be caught in the league, just makes a mockery of the whole thing. have to complete the season. and maybe adjust next season accordingly
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Agree in principal but this season might not be completed until late summer. this means that next season will also be affected. The Euros has already been delayed and is now due to be played in 2021 so season 21-22 has got to finish on time which won't be possible if this season is delayed longer than a month to 6 weeks.

Unless a vaccine is found, tested and vast quantities produced in the next few weeks then I reckon the only thing we can do is to cancel this season and either carry over the points totals into next season or start afresh
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Or truncate the new season, retaining the integrity of this season.

If they reduced the games next season to 19 for each team, and agreed on deciding who should be the home / away team for each tie (perhaps based on historic records between the teams) then you all start afresh knowing where you stand, and games already played retain that integrity.

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What an absolute total nonsense. How would it retain integrity, when teams are not playing each other home and away, like they have been doing since 1888?

Everything needs to be voided this season, then play a full season next season, however late it starts. Just pandering to one or two clubs to try to finish the season, is a complete and utter joke.

posted on 16/3/20

Sandy

“ Everything needs to be voided this season, then play a full season next season, however late it starts. Just pandering to one or two clubs to try to finish the season, is a complete and utter joke.”

Really?

If the season is voided the following teams lose out based on probable outcomes had the comp continued;

Liverpool - PL champions
Leicester - CL football
Sheff United - European football
The 3 teams that will get relegated in the next full season played, wouldn’t it be ironic if Sheff Utd were one of them.
Leeds, West Brom + another via playoffs - won’t be promoted and miss out on £100m windfall.

Voiding the season benefits the following teams;

Man City - retain the PL until new season has been played.
Spurs - assuming CL is decided on the 18/19 table
Arsenal - finished 5th in 18/19. If City fail in their appeal and are banned from CL
Bournemouth, Villa and Norwich - all avoid relegation.
West Ham - avoid probable relegation battle this season.

Hardly think it’s fair that 9 teams lose out but 6 should benefit from this.

posted on 16/3/20

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 11 minutes ago
Sandy

“ Everything needs to be voided this season, then play a full season next season, however late it starts. Just pandering to one or two clubs to try to finish the season, is a complete and utter joke.”

Really?

If the season is voided the following teams lose out based on probable outcomes had the comp continued;

Liverpool - PL champions
Leicester - CL football
Sheff United - European football
The 3 teams that will get relegated in the next full season played, wouldn’t it be ironic if Sheff Utd were one of them.
Leeds, West Brom + another via playoffs - won’t be promoted and miss out on £100m windfall.

Voiding the season benefits the following teams;

Man City - retain the PL until new season has been played.
Spurs - assuming CL is decided on the 18/19 table
Arsenal - finished 5th in 18/19. If City fail in their appeal and are banned from CL
Bournemouth, Villa and Norwich - all avoid relegation.
West Ham - avoid probable relegation battle this season.

Hardly think it’s fair that 9 teams lose out but 6 should benefit from this.
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Don't think it's a benefit to City really.

posted on 16/3/20

How about finishing this season come what may and then splitting the league into two next season if we only have 4/5 months to play with? Top 10 plays for the League and European places with the bottom 10 playing to avoid relegation.

posted on 16/3/20

Mahomes

Have you just learned the word truncated?

posted on 16/3/20

comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
How about finishing this season come what may and then splitting the league into two next season if we only have 4/5 months to play with? Top 10 plays for the League and European places with the bottom 10 playing to avoid relegation.
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Why not just finish the season when it finishes and then make the call on what comes after?

posted on 16/3/20

comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 4 minutes ago
Mahomes

Have you just learned the word truncated?
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haha yeah I thought that. Bet he's said it at work several times today and will fit it in to a conversation with his missus when he gets home.

Truncunted

posted on 16/3/20

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
How about finishing this season come what may and then splitting the league into two next season if we only have 4/5 months to play with? Top 10 plays for the League and European places with the bottom 10 playing to avoid relegation.
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Why not just finish the season when it finishes and then make the call on what comes after?
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I was only kidding! Hopefully this season does get completed and we can move on from there.

posted on 16/3/20

comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 4 minutes ago
Mahomes

Have you just learned the word truncated?
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haha yeah I thought that. Bet he's said it at work several times today and will fit it in to a conversation with his missus when he gets home.

Truncunted
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Now an article.

Only said it once in the article though.

posted on 16/3/20

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 49 minutes ago
Sandy

“ Everything needs to be voided this season, then play a full season next season, however late it starts. Just pandering to one or two clubs to try to finish the season, is a complete and utter joke.”

Really?

If the season is voided the following teams lose out based on probable outcomes had the comp continued;

Liverpool - PL champions
Leicester - CL football
Sheff United - European football
The 3 teams that will get relegated in the next full season played, wouldn’t it be ironic if Sheff Utd were one of them.
Leeds, West Brom + another via playoffs - won’t be promoted and miss out on £100m windfall.

Voiding the season benefits the following teams;

Man City - retain the PL until new season has been played.
Spurs - assuming CL is decided on the 18/19 table
Arsenal - finished 5th in 18/19. If City fail in their appeal and are banned from CL
Bournemouth, Villa and Norwich - all avoid relegation.
West Ham - avoid probable relegation battle this season.

Hardly think it’s fair that 9 teams lose out but 6 should benefit from this.
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Well nobody misses out on anything, because the season never finished, and nothing was decided.

Who knows if Liverpool would win the Prem, they may lose all their remaining games?

Who knows if Leicester would finish in the top four?

Who knows if Sheffield United would get European football, they may not.

Cannot just say based on probability of outcomes. Plenty of outcomes have changed over the last 10 games of a season. Absolutely no guarantee that Leeds and WBA would finish in the top two, they may not.


Only way is just to abandon the season. Any other way opens up a massive can of worms. Nobody wins and nobody loses if the season ends now. You can only have a loser if Leagues have actually been finished.

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