And come back to what?
There will be no economy. This will end and it will end in months or at least be manageable.
You can't have worldwide shutting down as everyone runs out of money; people don't get paid and nobody produces. The impact of that would be far more serious.
More serious than a sky high death rate?
The economy will recover, a corpse can't.
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
And we will find treatments and eventually a cure.
We will also be better prepared for next time.
I think its completely mental that somebody actually knew about this before it happened and he was shushed.
There will surely be ramifications regarding that when this is all over
comment by Joe-ny Stokes is my da (U15888)
posted 33 seconds ago
I think its completely mental that somebody actually knew about this before it happened and he was shushed.
There will surely be ramifications regarding that when this is all over
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Who was that?
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
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I don't know much about economy or health but im 100% sure the economy will be easier to save than a dead body
comment by Joe-ny Stokes is my da (U15888)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
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I don't know much about economy or health but im 100% sure the economy will be easier to save than a dead body
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Very droll
We are talking about the impact of closing everything down for an indeterminate amount of time.
comment by Joe-ny Stokes is my da (U15888)
posted 15 seconds ago
Li Wenliang
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The cost of living in a state like China
People are shot there for less
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
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It will recover, it always recovers. People need stuff, stuff has to be made, transported, used.
What I've seen of the general public recently, I would be expecting the worst. Italy had a lockdown for a reason, why good old Boris isn't following suit is astounding.
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
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It will recover, it always recovers. People need stuff, stuff has to be made, transported, used.
What I've seen of the general public recently, I would be expecting the worst. Italy had a lockdown for a reason, why good old Boris isn't following suit is astounding.
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It's never experienced anything like this. To just assume it will recover is thoughtless.
What will recover exactly? The airlines that didn't survive? The manufacturers of goods who closed down? The construction market that doesn't exist? The farmers who don't get paid? The high street shops who can't get supplies and close?
And how will people pay for these things when they've had no money come in for months on end.
This lockdown law going through parliament is being recommended to be in place for 2 years. Most businesses can't survive with no activity for longer than a few months.
Italy is completely different to us in practically every way imaginable.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will recover, it always recovers. People need stuff, stuff has to be made, transported, used.
What I've seen of the general public recently, I would be expecting the worst. Italy had a lockdown for a reason, why good old Boris isn't following suit is astounding.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's never experienced anything like this. To just assume it will recover is thoughtless.
What will recover exactly? The airlines that didn't survive? The manufacturers of goods who closed down? The construction market that doesn't exist? The farmers who don't get paid? The high street shops who can't get supplies and close?
And how will people pay for these things when they've had no money come in for months on end.
This lockdown law going through parliament is being recommended to be in place for 2 years. Most businesses can't survive with no activity for longer than a few months.
Italy is completely different to us in practically every way imaginable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How so?
To your last statement, just curious?
comment by Joe-ny Stokes is my da (U15888)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will recover, it always recovers. People need stuff, stuff has to be made, transported, used.
What I've seen of the general public recently, I would be expecting the worst. Italy had a lockdown for a reason, why good old Boris isn't following suit is astounding.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's never experienced anything like this. To just assume it will recover is thoughtless.
What will recover exactly? The airlines that didn't survive? The manufacturers of goods who closed down? The construction market that doesn't exist? The farmers who don't get paid? The high street shops who can't get supplies and close?
And how will people pay for these things when they've had no money come in for months on end.
This lockdown law going through parliament is being recommended to be in place for 2 years. Most businesses can't survive with no activity for longer than a few months.
Italy is completely different to us in practically every way imaginable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How so?
To your last statement, just curious?
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How so what? I've just explained the situation.
Italy allowed the virus to go unchecked for weeks on end because they misdiagnosed the thing. It's deep seated with over 90% cases in Lombardy. The rest of Italy has nowhere near that number.
Italy and Spain have both been in lockdown for a few weeks now and their death tolls are through the roof , there are reasons why the government is not introducing lockdown
Lock down is coming very soon I think. We will undoubtedly lose businesses that people worked exceptionally hard to build. They'll be replaced by others and the economy will go on. Its going to be hard for a lot of people
comment by WHEREZTHEMUNNEECUMINFAE (U12366)
posted 55 seconds ago
Italy and Spain have both been in lockdown for a few weeks now and their death tolls are through the roof , there are reasons why the government is not introducing lockdown
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Aye but lockdown surely isn't the reason their death tolls are through the roof
That makes no sense
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 3 minutes ago
Lock down is coming very soon I think. We will undoubtedly lose businesses that people worked exceptionally hard to build. They'll be replaced by others and the economy will go on. Its going to be hard for a lot of people
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you're right but this 2 year bill is of grave concern. Are we suggesting we will be in this state for another 24 months or is it a case that it can be brought back out and dusted down if needed again?
I think it was more set it longer as it looks like you don't have control if you need to keep getting extensions.
I suspect they'd need it 9-12 months. But I'm not in the know
^ This.
They did it too late, they let everyone have a last weekend out, at least that wont happen here...
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posted on 23/3/20
Aye nows the time to act
posted on 23/3/20
And come back to what?
There will be no economy. This will end and it will end in months or at least be manageable.
You can't have worldwide shutting down as everyone runs out of money; people don't get paid and nobody produces. The impact of that would be far more serious.
posted on 23/3/20
More serious than a sky high death rate?
posted on 23/3/20
The economy will recover, a corpse can't.
posted on 23/3/20
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
posted on 23/3/20
And we will find treatments and eventually a cure.
We will also be better prepared for next time.
posted on 23/3/20
I think its completely mental that somebody actually knew about this before it happened and he was shushed.
There will surely be ramifications regarding that when this is all over
posted on 23/3/20
comment by Joe-ny Stokes is my da (U15888)
posted 33 seconds ago
I think its completely mental that somebody actually knew about this before it happened and he was shushed.
There will surely be ramifications regarding that when this is all over
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who was that?
posted on 23/3/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't know much about economy or health but im 100% sure the economy will be easier to save than a dead body
posted on 23/3/20
Li Wenliang
posted on 23/3/20
comment by Joe-ny Stokes is my da (U15888)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't know much about economy or health but im 100% sure the economy will be easier to save than a dead body
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Very droll
We are talking about the impact of closing everything down for an indeterminate amount of time.
posted on 23/3/20
comment by Joe-ny Stokes is my da (U15888)
posted 15 seconds ago
Li Wenliang
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The cost of living in a state like China
People are shot there for less
posted on 23/3/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will recover, it always recovers. People need stuff, stuff has to be made, transported, used.
What I've seen of the general public recently, I would be expecting the worst. Italy had a lockdown for a reason, why good old Boris isn't following suit is astounding.
posted on 23/3/20
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will recover, it always recovers. People need stuff, stuff has to be made, transported, used.
What I've seen of the general public recently, I would be expecting the worst. Italy had a lockdown for a reason, why good old Boris isn't following suit is astounding.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's never experienced anything like this. To just assume it will recover is thoughtless.
What will recover exactly? The airlines that didn't survive? The manufacturers of goods who closed down? The construction market that doesn't exist? The farmers who don't get paid? The high street shops who can't get supplies and close?
And how will people pay for these things when they've had no money come in for months on end.
This lockdown law going through parliament is being recommended to be in place for 2 years. Most businesses can't survive with no activity for longer than a few months.
Italy is completely different to us in practically every way imaginable.
posted on 23/3/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will recover, it always recovers. People need stuff, stuff has to be made, transported, used.
What I've seen of the general public recently, I would be expecting the worst. Italy had a lockdown for a reason, why good old Boris isn't following suit is astounding.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's never experienced anything like this. To just assume it will recover is thoughtless.
What will recover exactly? The airlines that didn't survive? The manufacturers of goods who closed down? The construction market that doesn't exist? The farmers who don't get paid? The high street shops who can't get supplies and close?
And how will people pay for these things when they've had no money come in for months on end.
This lockdown law going through parliament is being recommended to be in place for 2 years. Most businesses can't survive with no activity for longer than a few months.
Italy is completely different to us in practically every way imaginable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How so?
To your last statement, just curious?
posted on 23/3/20
Parlano Italiano
posted on 23/3/20
comment by Joe-ny Stokes is my da (U15888)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Zico 😎 (U21900)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
The death rate from a long term lockdown will be far higher.
The economy won't simply recover.
It was only a few days ago we were expecting 250,000 UK deaths. Now it's around 20,000 (being a "decent" result).
I'm not downplaying the impact or the severity of this but don't think just stopping everything in its tracks will be better. It won't
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It will recover, it always recovers. People need stuff, stuff has to be made, transported, used.
What I've seen of the general public recently, I would be expecting the worst. Italy had a lockdown for a reason, why good old Boris isn't following suit is astounding.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's never experienced anything like this. To just assume it will recover is thoughtless.
What will recover exactly? The airlines that didn't survive? The manufacturers of goods who closed down? The construction market that doesn't exist? The farmers who don't get paid? The high street shops who can't get supplies and close?
And how will people pay for these things when they've had no money come in for months on end.
This lockdown law going through parliament is being recommended to be in place for 2 years. Most businesses can't survive with no activity for longer than a few months.
Italy is completely different to us in practically every way imaginable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How so?
To your last statement, just curious?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How so what? I've just explained the situation.
Italy allowed the virus to go unchecked for weeks on end because they misdiagnosed the thing. It's deep seated with over 90% cases in Lombardy. The rest of Italy has nowhere near that number.
posted on 23/3/20
Italy and Spain have both been in lockdown for a few weeks now and their death tolls are through the roof , there are reasons why the government is not introducing lockdown
posted on 23/3/20
Lock down is coming very soon I think. We will undoubtedly lose businesses that people worked exceptionally hard to build. They'll be replaced by others and the economy will go on. Its going to be hard for a lot of people
posted on 23/3/20
comment by WHEREZTHEMUNNEECUMINFAE (U12366)
posted 55 seconds ago
Italy and Spain have both been in lockdown for a few weeks now and their death tolls are through the roof , there are reasons why the government is not introducing lockdown
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Aye but lockdown surely isn't the reason their death tolls are through the roof
That makes no sense
posted on 23/3/20
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 3 minutes ago
Lock down is coming very soon I think. We will undoubtedly lose businesses that people worked exceptionally hard to build. They'll be replaced by others and the economy will go on. Its going to be hard for a lot of people
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you're right but this 2 year bill is of grave concern. Are we suggesting we will be in this state for another 24 months or is it a case that it can be brought back out and dusted down if needed again?
posted on 23/3/20
I think it was more set it longer as it looks like you don't have control if you need to keep getting extensions.
posted on 23/3/20
I suspect they'd need it 9-12 months. But I'm not in the know
posted on 23/3/20
^ This.
They did it too late, they let everyone have a last weekend out, at least that wont happen here...
posted on 23/3/20
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