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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Duke (U10059)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by The Duke (U10059)
posted 6 minutes ago
How on earth is striving to do everything humanly possible to prevent, treat, and test (saving feking lives) covid19 tribal?
The UK is woefully short of test kits, and ventilators. People who may not have otherwised die, will.
If the UK can procure this life saving equipment from abroad, why on earth would anyone (in their right mind) object.
Unless they're completely ignorant.
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Say something positive
About anything the government have done on any matter..
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The government has implemented a number of fantastic measures and packages to mitigate the virus impacts.
Does that somehow absolve them of choosing to opt out of the EU EU pandemic procurement system? The point I had initially made.
Your response was to put your head in the sand and cite boredom, rather than ever bother to debate the points I made.
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my boredom only comes from your transparent tribal nonsense
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Duke and WWSPD..
Is now the time?
Pearce is a good NI fan and duke is a sound bear, so forget the plastic politics I wallow in.
Bojo messed up to an extent on timing, but the alternative is Jezza and Abbott.
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Diane Abbott
Can you imagine her giving us daily update on the numbers and figures
https://youtu.be/ZWYIkhJdOZI
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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What is this two week measure, from the first confirmed case, first death?
As someone pointed out, we have a very broad spectrum of demographics across Europe.
Let’s just see in the end and use a percentage death rate to score points over each nation.
USA is my favourite, 40m live in poverty, crap healthcare and welfare system.
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
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I like Morgan and he gets into all parties.
Good way to start your day at 6.30am as BBC is bland and woke imo.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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He is a waste of skin. Same bloke who backed up / encouraged panic buying the brain dead moron.
Colemanballs.
Welcome to my world, with Wwspd.
Not a bad lad,,btw.
Did you hear about Kris Boyd, saying that fans would never watch their team behind closed doors,lol?
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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He is a waste of skin. Same bloke who backed up / encouraged panic buying the brain dead moron.
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Morgan did not.
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
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Partially due to our geographical location, and also due to the number and rate of spread of cases.
This website provides a decent analysis of existing data.
The virus trajectory in the UK is comparable to Italy, which is why we have now seen dramatic changes in policy from the government.
https://datacat.cc/covid/
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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He is a waste of skin. Same bloke who backed up / encouraged panic buying the brain dead moron.
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Morgan did not.
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Must have been duped by the twitter then. My apologies to the curly haired idiot
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
The 2 week measure has been mentioned on here on many occasions by many posters on where the UK sits as regards the spread of the virus.
We are 2 weeks behind the likes of Italy and Spain apparently.Why and how I don't know,but it's a line that has been quoted for a while now.
Why would we be 2 weeks behind when we've been so much more relaxed than others,when we have more people in transit aviation wise than both these countries and we had transatlantic flights beyond these countries also.
Everything cries out we should be in a worse situation than Italy,Spain and France and as a Country we are not.....Why is this?
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
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Partially due to our geographical location, and also due to the number and rate of spread of cases.
This website provides a decent analysis of existing data.
The virus trajectory in the UK is comparable to Italy, which is why we have now seen dramatic changes in policy from the government.
https://datacat.cc/covid/
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We are an Island so I'll give some credence to that,but it doesn't explain why the likes of Poland is fairing far better than Italy and Spain.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
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Partially due to our geographical location, and also due to the number and rate of spread of cases.
This website provides a decent analysis of existing data.
The virus trajectory in the UK is comparable to Italy, which is why we have now seen dramatic changes in policy from the government.
https://datacat.cc/covid/
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And because we are foolish too.
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Partially due to our geographical location, and also due to the number and rate of spread of cases.
This website provides a decent analysis of existing data.
The virus trajectory in the UK is comparable to Italy, which is why we have now seen dramatic changes in policy from the government.
https://datacat.cc/covid/
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We are an Island so I'll give some credence to that,but it doesn't explain why the likes of Poland is fairing far better than Italy and Spain.
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Demographics, government policies etc. I suspect the main reason is a combination of these plus Poland is more sparsely populated.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Partially due to our geographical location, and also due to the number and rate of spread of cases.
This website provides a decent analysis of existing data.
The virus trajectory in the UK is comparable to Italy, which is why we have now seen dramatic changes in policy from the government.
https://datacat.cc/covid/
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We are an Island so I'll give some credence to that,but it doesn't explain why the likes of Poland is fairing far better than Italy and Spain.
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Demographics, government policies etc. I suspect the main reason is a combination of these plus Poland is more sparsely populated.
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So given this reasoning why would you look at Italy as an example of what the UK will be like in 2 weeks time.
Sorry to be pedantic but for a start Italy is not an Island.Why should anyone say we are going down the route of Italy when geographically,socially and politically we are poles apart??
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On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
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Partially due to our geographical location, and also due to the number and rate of spread of cases.
This website provides a decent analysis of existing data.
The virus trajectory in the UK is comparable to Italy, which is why we have now seen dramatic changes in policy from the government.
https://datacat.cc/covid/
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We are an Island so I'll give some credence to that,but it doesn't explain why the likes of Poland is fairing far better than Italy and Spain.
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Demographics, government policies etc. I suspect the main reason is a combination of these plus Poland is more sparsely populated.
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So given this reasoning why would you look at Italy as an example of what the UK will be like in 2 weeks time.
Sorry to be pedantic but for a start Italy is not an Island.Why should anyone say we are going down the route of Italy when geographically,socially and politically we are poles apart??
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Just basing my views on existing trajectory modeling by the WHO etc.
Did you see pics from the London tube services today? Thousands of commuters still packed into tubes.
This disease is said to be considerably more contagious than previous coronavirus, which is particularly scary. Understand symptoms are not too severe if healthy but if you're vulnerable or elderly it can be deadly.
This is a decent resource page on the WHO website.
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd
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Latest figures put the death toll approaching 19,000 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The thing with Italy is that it's localised mostly to the North of the country.I would say society wise more pensioners live with their children in family groups than the likes of the UK(If I am wrong then I will hold my hands up) so the chances of them self isolating is less,also the chances of them catching the virus from family members increases.
I think comparing the UK to Italy is a bit lazy to say the least,similar sized population and globally close to each other,but other than that then the similarities become more tenuous imo
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comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
Latest figures put the death toll approaching 19,000 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The thing with Italy is that it's localised mostly to the North of the country.I would say society wise more pensioners live with their children in family groups than the likes of the UK(If I am wrong then I will hold my hands up) so the chances of them self isolating is less,also the chances of them catching the virus from family members increases.
I think comparing the UK to Italy is a bit lazy to say the least,similar sized population and globally close to each other,but other than that then the similarities become more tenuous imo
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London being the most population dense city in Europe has a factor too. Not in a good way sadly.
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Maybe I’m being stupid *caveat*
But surely the reason we are nth number of weeks behind whatever country you mention is international travel and testing and response and how those guessing are working the figures out
Dunno ...funnily enough
Otherwise we should all be working to amount of weeks since China discovered it
We’ve been warned
I thought we might be able to slightly better Italy’s count 2 weeks ago
Sadly I think ours will be worse
Enjoy your bbqs in car parks and trips to the seaside(that they’re still doing today apparently) and don’t ask for sympathy when you’ve condemned your own Nan to death by drowning alone
It’s a cheery time
Tbh most people alive in 4 weeks had never seen real war time before.
Stay safe all
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comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
Latest figures put the death toll approaching 19,000 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The thing with Italy is that it's localised mostly to the North of the country.I would say society wise more pensioners live with their children in family groups than the likes of the UK(If I am wrong then I will hold my hands up) so the chances of them self isolating is less,also the chances of them catching the virus from family members increases.
I think comparing the UK to Italy is a bit lazy to say the least,similar sized population and globally close to each other,but other than that then the similarities become more tenuous imo
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London being the most population dense city in Europe has a factor too. Not in a good way sadly.
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London should have been restricted in movement of population within the Greater London area and movement in and out of London at least a week ago.
It's a perfect breeding ground for the virus and should have been targeted so by the government.
The ban on movement and more than 2 person's socialising should have been implemented in London first.
Other parts of the Country the spread of the virus will be far less due to population density.The government has implemented a one size fits all scenario for the whole of the UK,which in the long run could do more damage than good
I think plenty are confusing doing well with not doing large numbers of tests.
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I think plenty are confusing doing well with not doing large numbers of tests.
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If you go solely on deaths per capita as a perameter then we are around average for Europe excluding small populated counties that are hotspots.
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How on earth is striving to do everything humanly possible to prevent, treat, and test (saving feking lives) covid19 tribal?
The UK is woefully short of test kits, and ventilators. People who may not have otherwised die, will.
If the UK can procure this life saving equipment from abroad, why on earth would anyone (in their right mind) object.
Unless they're completely ignorant.
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Say something positive
About anything the government have done on any matter..
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The government has implemented a number of fantastic measures and packages to mitigate the virus impacts.
Does that somehow absolve them of choosing to opt out of the EU EU pandemic procurement system? The point I had initially made.
Your response was to put your head in the sand and cite boredom, rather than ever bother to debate the points I made.
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my boredom only comes from your transparent tribal nonsense
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Duke and WWSPD..
Is now the time?
Pearce is a good NI fan and duke is a sound bear, so forget the plastic politics I wallow in.
Bojo messed up to an extent on timing, but the alternative is Jezza and Abbott.
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Diane Abbott
Can you imagine her giving us daily update on the numbers and figures
https://youtu.be/ZWYIkhJdOZI
posted on 24/3/20
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On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
posted on 24/3/20
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On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
posted on 24/3/20
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On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
posted on 24/3/20
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comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
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On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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What is this two week measure, from the first confirmed case, first death?
As someone pointed out, we have a very broad spectrum of demographics across Europe.
Let’s just see in the end and use a percentage death rate to score points over each nation.
USA is my favourite, 40m live in poverty, crap healthcare and welfare system.
posted on 24/3/20
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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
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comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
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I like Morgan and he gets into all parties.
Good way to start your day at 6.30am as BBC is bland and woke imo.
posted on 24/3/20
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comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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He is a waste of skin. Same bloke who backed up / encouraged panic buying the brain dead moron.
posted on 24/3/20
Colemanballs.
Welcome to my world, with Wwspd.
Not a bad lad,,btw.
Did you hear about Kris Boyd, saying that fans would never watch their team behind closed doors,lol?
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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He is a waste of skin. Same bloke who backed up / encouraged panic buying the brain dead moron.
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Morgan did not.
posted on 24/3/20
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posted 10 minutes ago
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posted 31 seconds ago
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
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Partially due to our geographical location, and also due to the number and rate of spread of cases.
This website provides a decent analysis of existing data.
The virus trajectory in the UK is comparable to Italy, which is why we have now seen dramatic changes in policy from the government.
https://datacat.cc/covid/
posted on 24/3/20
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posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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He is a waste of skin. Same bloke who backed up / encouraged panic buying the brain dead moron.
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Morgan did not.
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Must have been duped by the twitter then. My apologies to the curly haired idiot
posted on 24/3/20
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
The 2 week measure has been mentioned on here on many occasions by many posters on where the UK sits as regards the spread of the virus.
We are 2 weeks behind the likes of Italy and Spain apparently.Why and how I don't know,but it's a line that has been quoted for a while now.
Why would we be 2 weeks behind when we've been so much more relaxed than others,when we have more people in transit aviation wise than both these countries and we had transatlantic flights beyond these countries also.
Everything cries out we should be in a worse situation than Italy,Spain and France and as a Country we are not.....Why is this?
posted on 24/3/20
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comment by Holland's big brother Europe (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
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Partially due to our geographical location, and also due to the number and rate of spread of cases.
This website provides a decent analysis of existing data.
The virus trajectory in the UK is comparable to Italy, which is why we have now seen dramatic changes in policy from the government.
https://datacat.cc/covid/
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We are an Island so I'll give some credence to that,but it doesn't explain why the likes of Poland is fairing far better than Italy and Spain.
posted on 24/3/20
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On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
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Partially due to our geographical location, and also due to the number and rate of spread of cases.
This website provides a decent analysis of existing data.
The virus trajectory in the UK is comparable to Italy, which is why we have now seen dramatic changes in policy from the government.
https://datacat.cc/covid/
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And because we are foolish too.
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On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
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Partially due to our geographical location, and also due to the number and rate of spread of cases.
This website provides a decent analysis of existing data.
The virus trajectory in the UK is comparable to Italy, which is why we have now seen dramatic changes in policy from the government.
https://datacat.cc/covid/
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We are an Island so I'll give some credence to that,but it doesn't explain why the likes of Poland is fairing far better than Italy and Spain.
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Demographics, government policies etc. I suspect the main reason is a combination of these plus Poland is more sparsely populated.
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On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
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Partially due to our geographical location, and also due to the number and rate of spread of cases.
This website provides a decent analysis of existing data.
The virus trajectory in the UK is comparable to Italy, which is why we have now seen dramatic changes in policy from the government.
https://datacat.cc/covid/
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We are an Island so I'll give some credence to that,but it doesn't explain why the likes of Poland is fairing far better than Italy and Spain.
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Demographics, government policies etc. I suspect the main reason is a combination of these plus Poland is more sparsely populated.
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So given this reasoning why would you look at Italy as an example of what the UK will be like in 2 weeks time.
Sorry to be pedantic but for a start Italy is not an Island.Why should anyone say we are going down the route of Italy when geographically,socially and politically we are poles apart??
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On 12 March the UK and the Netherlands had roughly the same amount of cases, 111 v 130. Today the UK had 1400 cases, Netherlands 800. I would say in a week time the UK will look a lot different, and it wont be positive.
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You do realise that the Netherlands has about a quarter of the population of the UK?
It's faring far worse than the UK per capita at the moment and has done since the outbreak
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Just under 19m. So about a 1/3 of the U.K. population and they have that many cases!
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Another country that is 2 weeks ahead of the UK apparently. For some reason the UK is 2 to 3 weeks behind almost every Country in Europe,has anyone explained the reason behind this.I could be flippant and say it's due to Brexit,but cab anyone here give a reason why we seem to be lagging behind so much?
I could stir the pot a bit and say the a factor is that they all have different leaders and strategies and some have fared better than others.But I'm not as tribal as some on here.
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Initially the plan was to put the economy first, (as per Cummings herd mentality approach). Which was roundly criticised (if not explicitly) by the WHO.
Can't abide Piers Morgan but credit where it's due for his dismantling of Hancock here:
https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1242035892719702017?s=19
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Cheers for the reply but it doesn't answer the question as to why we are 2-3 weeks behind most European countries.
Any idea for the reason why this is so.Why would such a Country be behind everyone else when it has been so lax in doing anything to prevent the spread.
It makes no sense that the UK is 2-3 weeks behind,if we as a Country been so lax we should be ahead not behind surely?
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Partially due to our geographical location, and also due to the number and rate of spread of cases.
This website provides a decent analysis of existing data.
The virus trajectory in the UK is comparable to Italy, which is why we have now seen dramatic changes in policy from the government.
https://datacat.cc/covid/
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We are an Island so I'll give some credence to that,but it doesn't explain why the likes of Poland is fairing far better than Italy and Spain.
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Demographics, government policies etc. I suspect the main reason is a combination of these plus Poland is more sparsely populated.
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So given this reasoning why would you look at Italy as an example of what the UK will be like in 2 weeks time.
Sorry to be pedantic but for a start Italy is not an Island.Why should anyone say we are going down the route of Italy when geographically,socially and politically we are poles apart??
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Just basing my views on existing trajectory modeling by the WHO etc.
Did you see pics from the London tube services today? Thousands of commuters still packed into tubes.
This disease is said to be considerably more contagious than previous coronavirus, which is particularly scary. Understand symptoms are not too severe if healthy but if you're vulnerable or elderly it can be deadly.
This is a decent resource page on the WHO website.
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd
posted on 24/3/20
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
Latest figures put the death toll approaching 19,000 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The thing with Italy is that it's localised mostly to the North of the country.I would say society wise more pensioners live with their children in family groups than the likes of the UK(If I am wrong then I will hold my hands up) so the chances of them self isolating is less,also the chances of them catching the virus from family members increases.
I think comparing the UK to Italy is a bit lazy to say the least,similar sized population and globally close to each other,but other than that then the similarities become more tenuous imo
posted on 24/3/20
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comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
Latest figures put the death toll approaching 19,000 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The thing with Italy is that it's localised mostly to the North of the country.I would say society wise more pensioners live with their children in family groups than the likes of the UK(If I am wrong then I will hold my hands up) so the chances of them self isolating is less,also the chances of them catching the virus from family members increases.
I think comparing the UK to Italy is a bit lazy to say the least,similar sized population and globally close to each other,but other than that then the similarities become more tenuous imo
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London being the most population dense city in Europe has a factor too. Not in a good way sadly.
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posted on 24/3/20
Maybe I’m being stupid *caveat*
But surely the reason we are nth number of weeks behind whatever country you mention is international travel and testing and response and how those guessing are working the figures out
Dunno ...funnily enough
Otherwise we should all be working to amount of weeks since China discovered it
We’ve been warned
I thought we might be able to slightly better Italy’s count 2 weeks ago
Sadly I think ours will be worse
Enjoy your bbqs in car parks and trips to the seaside(that they’re still doing today apparently) and don’t ask for sympathy when you’ve condemned your own Nan to death by drowning alone
It’s a cheery time
Tbh most people alive in 4 weeks had never seen real war time before.
Stay safe all
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Latest figures put the death toll approaching 19,000 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The thing with Italy is that it's localised mostly to the North of the country.I would say society wise more pensioners live with their children in family groups than the likes of the UK(If I am wrong then I will hold my hands up) so the chances of them self isolating is less,also the chances of them catching the virus from family members increases.
I think comparing the UK to Italy is a bit lazy to say the least,similar sized population and globally close to each other,but other than that then the similarities become more tenuous imo
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London being the most population dense city in Europe has a factor too. Not in a good way sadly.
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London should have been restricted in movement of population within the Greater London area and movement in and out of London at least a week ago.
It's a perfect breeding ground for the virus and should have been targeted so by the government.
The ban on movement and more than 2 person's socialising should have been implemented in London first.
Other parts of the Country the spread of the virus will be far less due to population density.The government has implemented a one size fits all scenario for the whole of the UK,which in the long run could do more damage than good
posted on 24/3/20
I think plenty are confusing doing well with not doing large numbers of tests.
posted on 24/3/20
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I think plenty are confusing doing well with not doing large numbers of tests.
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If you go solely on deaths per capita as a perameter then we are around average for Europe excluding small populated counties that are hotspots.
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