comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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You're assuming football will start again by May'
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I'm not at all. Even if it can't start until August, same applies.
The only way you will get a sensible debate on this issue is if you don't include Liverpool supporters.
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This is true of most subjects relating to football.
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 38 seconds ago
Realistically you’d need this timeframe to get the season started, finished and the next season started
Let’s take July as when people are allowed to start training (may be before, maybe after)
July 1st - August 1st - pre season
August 1st - October 1st - finish season, do play offs, do fixtures for the new season.
October 1st - November 1st - pre season, transfer window etc
November 1st - new season starts
If that is acceptable to the powers that be maybe that will happen. But I’m not sure the National league can wait that long and as their league is tied to what happens in the actual league system I’d imagine November is too late to re-start this season
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Exactly rob, people are forgetting there's a pre season to be had before restarting the season.
How is the season gonna be finished in 4 weeks as some idiot stated? There's the FA Cup only at QF stage, CL and Europa too.
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 18 minutes ago
The only way you will get a sensible debate on this issue is if you don't include Liverpool supporters.
The ones on this forum cannot bring themselves to even contemplate it happening regardless of how sensible and likely it might be.
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We I'm a wolves fan and I think it would be a disgrace to just abandon a season three quarters of the way through. There isn't a single reason why it would need to happen. Yeah but next season gets ruined? Does it? Why can't we play all this seasons games and next seasons? Surely that is the best for everyone, we all get ALL the games played so financially clubs will be better off and fans will get more football.
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You're not wrong in any of that, but contracts are key. There'll be a mixture of players hell bent on leaving their current contract regardless on 30th June even without having a club to go to. As a free agent, they'll be in a great position to negotiate a new club when a new season resumes. Similarly clubs will have players they don't want to pay wages to after 30th June, as is their right. Once clubs have different rosters from when the league was postponed then the "integrity of the competition", something I keep hearing a lot about in the argument to resume whenever, will be completely lost.
It's done by the 30th June or it's done. I really don't see how it can't be.
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Players can leave mid season then if they can't reach an agreement with their current club. Hardly a massive issue.
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Of course it's an issue. As a free agent they can sign for whomever they please. So you could technically have a player who played for one club upon postponement, now signed on for another. That's against the integrity of the competition.
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That may be so, but it's an unprecedented situation so the usual rules will not apply. Voiding a three quarters complete season is hardly preserving the integrity either.
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What are you basing that on though, who has said they will happily change the rules?
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 18 minutes ago
The only way you will get a sensible debate on this issue is if you don't include Liverpool supporters.
The ones on this forum cannot bring themselves to even contemplate it happening regardless of how sensible and likely it might be.
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We I'm a wolves fan and I think it would be a disgrace to just abandon a season three quarters of the way through. There isn't a single reason why it would need to happen. Yeah but next season gets ruined? Does it? Why can't we play all this seasons games and next seasons? Surely that is the best for everyone, we all get ALL the games played so financially clubs will be better off and fans will get more football.
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You're not wrong in any of that, but contracts are key. There'll be a mixture of players hell bent on leaving their current contract regardless on 30th June even without having a club to go to. As a free agent, they'll be in a great position to negotiate a new club when a new season resumes. Similarly clubs will have players they don't want to pay wages to after 30th June, as is their right. Once clubs have different rosters from when the league was postponed then the "integrity of the competition", something I keep hearing a lot about in the argument to resume whenever, will be completely lost.
It's done by the 30th June or it's done. I really don't see how it can't be.
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Players can leave mid season then if they can't reach an agreement with their current club. Hardly a massive issue.
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So if a club makes a massive signing leading them to a CL spot or avoiding relegation, that's fair?
Alternatively we delay next season, then what? Euros camp's start in June.
Engage your brain.
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Like I said, it's an unprecedented situation so we will be deviating from the usual way of doing things. My brain is engaged thanks.
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 36 seconds ago
Realistically you’d need this timeframe to get the season started, finished and the next season started
Let’s take July as when people are allowed to start training (may be before, maybe after)
July 1st - August 1st - pre season
August 1st - October 1st - finish season, do play offs, do fixtures for the new season.
October 1st - November 1st - pre season, transfer window etc
November 1st - new season starts
If that is acceptable to the powers that be maybe that will happen. But I’m not sure the National league can wait that long and as their league is tied to what happens in the actual league system I’d imagine November is too late to re-start this season
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Same issue.
Example, say Aston Villa have an out of contract player on 30th June who they want to keep, but he says no, I'm gone. 1st July he signs for another Premier League side, then goes on to score a goal that relegates Villa on the final day. Would that be upholding the "integrity of thebcompetition"?
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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You're assuming football will start again by May'
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I'm not at all. Even if it can't start until August, same applies.
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Okay, give me your time line form August, considering Utd for example, have a potential 18 games to play and euro camps will start in June 21.
People are forgetting that footballers have never been as inactive in their entire careers as they will be between the season ending the other week and when they come back
And then people expect them to jump into two games a week? đđđ
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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Don't some teams potentially have 20 games left? You can't do that in 28 days.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 18 minutes ago
The only way you will get a sensible debate on this issue is if you don't include Liverpool supporters.
The ones on this forum cannot bring themselves to even contemplate it happening regardless of how sensible and likely it might be.
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We I'm a wolves fan and I think it would be a disgrace to just abandon a season three quarters of the way through. There isn't a single reason why it would need to happen. Yeah but next season gets ruined? Does it? Why can't we play all this seasons games and next seasons? Surely that is the best for everyone, we all get ALL the games played so financially clubs will be better off and fans will get more football.
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You're not wrong in any of that, but contracts are key. There'll be a mixture of players hell bent on leaving their current contract regardless on 30th June even without having a club to go to. As a free agent, they'll be in a great position to negotiate a new club when a new season resumes. Similarly clubs will have players they don't want to pay wages to after 30th June, as is their right. Once clubs have different rosters from when the league was postponed then the "integrity of the competition", something I keep hearing a lot about in the argument to resume whenever, will be completely lost.
It's done by the 30th June or it's done. I really don't see how it can't be.
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Players can leave mid season then if they can't reach an agreement with their current club. Hardly a massive issue.
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Of course it's an issue. As a free agent they can sign for whomever they please. So you could technically have a player who played for one club upon postponement, now signed on for another. That's against the integrity of the competition.
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That may be so, but it's an unprecedented situation so the usual rules will not apply. Voiding a three quarters complete season is hardly preserving the integrity either.
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What are you basing that on though, who has said they will happily change the rules?
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Well whatever happens, we will not be abiding by usual rules. There are no rules in place for this kind of situation.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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Don't some teams potentially have 20 games left? You can't do that in 28 days.
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Time to engage that brain firm
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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Don't some teams potentially have 20 games left? You can't do that in 28 days.
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They've already talked about turning the CL into a mini competition to finish it off.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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Don't some teams potentially have 20 games left? You can't do that in 28 days.
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Time to engage that brain firm
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comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 18 minutes ago
The only way you will get a sensible debate on this issue is if you don't include Liverpool supporters.
The ones on this forum cannot bring themselves to even contemplate it happening regardless of how sensible and likely it might be.
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We I'm a wolves fan and I think it would be a disgrace to just abandon a season three quarters of the way through. There isn't a single reason why it would need to happen. Yeah but next season gets ruined? Does it? Why can't we play all this seasons games and next seasons? Surely that is the best for everyone, we all get ALL the games played so financially clubs will be better off and fans will get more football.
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You're not wrong in any of that, but contracts are key. There'll be a mixture of players hell bent on leaving their current contract regardless on 30th June even without having a club to go to. As a free agent, they'll be in a great position to negotiate a new club when a new season resumes. Similarly clubs will have players they don't want to pay wages to after 30th June, as is their right. Once clubs have different rosters from when the league was postponed then the "integrity of the competition", something I keep hearing a lot about in the argument to resume whenever, will be completely lost.
It's done by the 30th June or it's done. I really don't see how it can't be.
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Players can leave mid season then if they can't reach an agreement with their current club. Hardly a massive issue.
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Of course it's an issue. As a free agent they can sign for whomever they please. So you could technically have a player who played for one club upon postponement, now signed on for another. That's against the integrity of the competition.
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That may be so, but it's an unprecedented situation so the usual rules will not apply. Voiding a three quarters complete season is hardly preserving the integrity either.
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Once the contracts become an issue it's a whole new ball game. I agree voiding a season that's 75-80% done isn't great, but you said it yourself, it's an unprecedented situation.
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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Don't some teams potentially have 20 games left? You can't do that in 28 days.
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They've already talked about turning the CL into a mini competition to finish it off.
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So say that's 2 weeks, 2.5 for europa, now where does the FA Cup and PL fit in?
You said 4 weeks....
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He has a point. The longer this goes on the more ridiculous it is to finish a season.
Players will be in pre season mode and it'll be a bit of a farce.
All the teams who got into good form have lost momentum and visa versa. Any accomplishment or failure will be with an asterisk next to it.
Just give Liverpool their title to shut them up and move ob.
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‘To shut up’ if it was any club any other fan supported you would all be saying exactly the same. You’re all so pathetic finding anyway for us not to win it. We literally need 2 more wins, why should we agree to finish the season, when it’s almost finished!
This happened in Chile
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world/chile-protests-chilean-primera-division-universidad-catolica-latest-update-champions-league-season-a9227411.html%3Famp
Might be an idea - might not
But leagues have been abandoned before
As a United fan I want to see the season finished to see if we can have a crack at top 4, FACup and Europa League. Still a lot to play for.
However, we must also accept this may not be possible and that we'll be playing Europa League football next season as well.
If that's the case so be it but it would be pretty disappointing after we looked to have found a bit of form. Having said that this is an unprecedented situation so the best thing to do is accept the resolution that's best for the health of everyone.
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 51 seconds ago
I dont really care anymore. I think people will show more and more apathy about finishing this season the longer we go on.
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Fair play, that's your feelings toward the situation.
Many others though, can't wait to get back to some sort of normality.
Maybe you personally could take a 18 month hiatus from football, which would seemingly be best for you.
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Yeah because me not caring whether we finish this season means I dont want normality.
Of course I want normality. I just don't care one bit whether returning to normal involves carrying on the season or starting again. There are much more important things to be concerned about.
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 18 minutes ago
The only way you will get a sensible debate on this issue is if you don't include Liverpool supporters.
The ones on this forum cannot bring themselves to even contemplate it happening regardless of how sensible and likely it might be.
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We I'm a wolves fan and I think it would be a disgrace to just abandon a season three quarters of the way through. There isn't a single reason why it would need to happen. Yeah but next season gets ruined? Does it? Why can't we play all this seasons games and next seasons? Surely that is the best for everyone, we all get ALL the games played so financially clubs will be better off and fans will get more football.
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You're not wrong in any of that, but contracts are key. There'll be a mixture of players hell bent on leaving their current contract regardless on 30th June even without having a club to go to. As a free agent, they'll be in a great position to negotiate a new club when a new season resumes. Similarly clubs will have players they don't want to pay wages to after 30th June, as is their right. Once clubs have different rosters from when the league was postponed then the "integrity of the competition", something I keep hearing a lot about in the argument to resume whenever, will be completely lost.
It's done by the 30th June or it's done. I really don't see how it can't be.
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Players can leave mid season then if they can't reach an agreement with their current club. Hardly a massive issue.
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Of course it's an issue. As a free agent they can sign for whomever they please. So you could technically have a player who played for one club upon postponement, now signed on for another. That's against the integrity of the competition.
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That may be so, but it's an unprecedented situation so the usual rules will not apply. Voiding a three quarters complete season is hardly preserving the integrity either.
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Once the contracts become an issue it's a whole new ball game. I agree voiding a season that's 75-80% done isn't great, but you said it yourself, it's an unprecedented situation.
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Yeah, might see players' contracts expiring mid season which hasn't happened before. But if that happens, so be it. It's hardly impossible.
Surprised people are downplaying players contracts as well. It is a massive issue, one that becomes greater as you go down the leagues.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
As a United fan I want to see the season finished to see if we can have a crack at top 4, FACup and Europa League. Still a lot to play for.
However, we must also accept this may not be possible and that we'll be playing Europa League football next season as well.
If that's the case so be it but it would be pretty disappointing after we looked to have found a bit of form. Having said that this is an unprecedented situation so the best thing to do is accept the resolution that's best for the health of everyone.
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Or we could jump up and down screaming it’s not fair like Liverpool fans?
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 8 seconds ago
Surprised people are downplaying players contracts as well. It is a massive issue, one that becomes greater as you go down the leagues.
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It sure is. I've seen Liverpool fans say that teams could just extend them, completely ignoring that a contract is a two way agreement.
With a vaccine at least a year or so away can anyone actually see people being allowed to attend games for at least a year?
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 43 seconds ago
With a vaccine at least a year or so away can anyone actually see people being allowed to attend games for at least a year?
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Can’t see it anytime soon
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posted on 28/3/20
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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You're assuming football will start again by May'
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I'm not at all. Even if it can't start until August, same applies.
posted on 28/3/20
The only way you will get a sensible debate on this issue is if you don't include Liverpool supporters.
———
This is true of most subjects relating to football.
posted on 28/3/20
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 38 seconds ago
Realistically you’d need this timeframe to get the season started, finished and the next season started
Let’s take July as when people are allowed to start training (may be before, maybe after)
July 1st - August 1st - pre season
August 1st - October 1st - finish season, do play offs, do fixtures for the new season.
October 1st - November 1st - pre season, transfer window etc
November 1st - new season starts
If that is acceptable to the powers that be maybe that will happen. But I’m not sure the National league can wait that long and as their league is tied to what happens in the actual league system I’d imagine November is too late to re-start this season
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Exactly rob, people are forgetting there's a pre season to be had before restarting the season.
How is the season gonna be finished in 4 weeks as some idiot stated? There's the FA Cup only at QF stage, CL and Europa too.
posted on 28/3/20
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 18 minutes ago
The only way you will get a sensible debate on this issue is if you don't include Liverpool supporters.
The ones on this forum cannot bring themselves to even contemplate it happening regardless of how sensible and likely it might be.
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We I'm a wolves fan and I think it would be a disgrace to just abandon a season three quarters of the way through. There isn't a single reason why it would need to happen. Yeah but next season gets ruined? Does it? Why can't we play all this seasons games and next seasons? Surely that is the best for everyone, we all get ALL the games played so financially clubs will be better off and fans will get more football.
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You're not wrong in any of that, but contracts are key. There'll be a mixture of players hell bent on leaving their current contract regardless on 30th June even without having a club to go to. As a free agent, they'll be in a great position to negotiate a new club when a new season resumes. Similarly clubs will have players they don't want to pay wages to after 30th June, as is their right. Once clubs have different rosters from when the league was postponed then the "integrity of the competition", something I keep hearing a lot about in the argument to resume whenever, will be completely lost.
It's done by the 30th June or it's done. I really don't see how it can't be.
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Players can leave mid season then if they can't reach an agreement with their current club. Hardly a massive issue.
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Of course it's an issue. As a free agent they can sign for whomever they please. So you could technically have a player who played for one club upon postponement, now signed on for another. That's against the integrity of the competition.
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That may be so, but it's an unprecedented situation so the usual rules will not apply. Voiding a three quarters complete season is hardly preserving the integrity either.
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What are you basing that on though, who has said they will happily change the rules?
posted on 28/3/20
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 18 minutes ago
The only way you will get a sensible debate on this issue is if you don't include Liverpool supporters.
The ones on this forum cannot bring themselves to even contemplate it happening regardless of how sensible and likely it might be.
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We I'm a wolves fan and I think it would be a disgrace to just abandon a season three quarters of the way through. There isn't a single reason why it would need to happen. Yeah but next season gets ruined? Does it? Why can't we play all this seasons games and next seasons? Surely that is the best for everyone, we all get ALL the games played so financially clubs will be better off and fans will get more football.
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You're not wrong in any of that, but contracts are key. There'll be a mixture of players hell bent on leaving their current contract regardless on 30th June even without having a club to go to. As a free agent, they'll be in a great position to negotiate a new club when a new season resumes. Similarly clubs will have players they don't want to pay wages to after 30th June, as is their right. Once clubs have different rosters from when the league was postponed then the "integrity of the competition", something I keep hearing a lot about in the argument to resume whenever, will be completely lost.
It's done by the 30th June or it's done. I really don't see how it can't be.
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Players can leave mid season then if they can't reach an agreement with their current club. Hardly a massive issue.
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So if a club makes a massive signing leading them to a CL spot or avoiding relegation, that's fair?
Alternatively we delay next season, then what? Euros camp's start in June.
Engage your brain.
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Like I said, it's an unprecedented situation so we will be deviating from the usual way of doing things. My brain is engaged thanks.
posted on 28/3/20
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 36 seconds ago
Realistically you’d need this timeframe to get the season started, finished and the next season started
Let’s take July as when people are allowed to start training (may be before, maybe after)
July 1st - August 1st - pre season
August 1st - October 1st - finish season, do play offs, do fixtures for the new season.
October 1st - November 1st - pre season, transfer window etc
November 1st - new season starts
If that is acceptable to the powers that be maybe that will happen. But I’m not sure the National league can wait that long and as their league is tied to what happens in the actual league system I’d imagine November is too late to re-start this season
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Same issue.
Example, say Aston Villa have an out of contract player on 30th June who they want to keep, but he says no, I'm gone. 1st July he signs for another Premier League side, then goes on to score a goal that relegates Villa on the final day. Would that be upholding the "integrity of thebcompetition"?
posted on 28/3/20
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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You're assuming football will start again by May'
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I'm not at all. Even if it can't start until August, same applies.
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Okay, give me your time line form August, considering Utd for example, have a potential 18 games to play and euro camps will start in June 21.
posted on 28/3/20
People are forgetting that footballers have never been as inactive in their entire careers as they will be between the season ending the other week and when they come back
And then people expect them to jump into two games a week? đđđ
posted on 28/3/20
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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Don't some teams potentially have 20 games left? You can't do that in 28 days.
posted on 28/3/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 18 minutes ago
The only way you will get a sensible debate on this issue is if you don't include Liverpool supporters.
The ones on this forum cannot bring themselves to even contemplate it happening regardless of how sensible and likely it might be.
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We I'm a wolves fan and I think it would be a disgrace to just abandon a season three quarters of the way through. There isn't a single reason why it would need to happen. Yeah but next season gets ruined? Does it? Why can't we play all this seasons games and next seasons? Surely that is the best for everyone, we all get ALL the games played so financially clubs will be better off and fans will get more football.
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You're not wrong in any of that, but contracts are key. There'll be a mixture of players hell bent on leaving their current contract regardless on 30th June even without having a club to go to. As a free agent, they'll be in a great position to negotiate a new club when a new season resumes. Similarly clubs will have players they don't want to pay wages to after 30th June, as is their right. Once clubs have different rosters from when the league was postponed then the "integrity of the competition", something I keep hearing a lot about in the argument to resume whenever, will be completely lost.
It's done by the 30th June or it's done. I really don't see how it can't be.
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Players can leave mid season then if they can't reach an agreement with their current club. Hardly a massive issue.
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Of course it's an issue. As a free agent they can sign for whomever they please. So you could technically have a player who played for one club upon postponement, now signed on for another. That's against the integrity of the competition.
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That may be so, but it's an unprecedented situation so the usual rules will not apply. Voiding a three quarters complete season is hardly preserving the integrity either.
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What are you basing that on though, who has said they will happily change the rules?
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Well whatever happens, we will not be abiding by usual rules. There are no rules in place for this kind of situation.
posted on 28/3/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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Don't some teams potentially have 20 games left? You can't do that in 28 days.
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Time to engage that brain firm
posted on 28/3/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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Don't some teams potentially have 20 games left? You can't do that in 28 days.
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They've already talked about turning the CL into a mini competition to finish it off.
posted on 28/3/20
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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Don't some teams potentially have 20 games left? You can't do that in 28 days.
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Time to engage that brain firm
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posted on 28/3/20
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 18 minutes ago
The only way you will get a sensible debate on this issue is if you don't include Liverpool supporters.
The ones on this forum cannot bring themselves to even contemplate it happening regardless of how sensible and likely it might be.
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We I'm a wolves fan and I think it would be a disgrace to just abandon a season three quarters of the way through. There isn't a single reason why it would need to happen. Yeah but next season gets ruined? Does it? Why can't we play all this seasons games and next seasons? Surely that is the best for everyone, we all get ALL the games played so financially clubs will be better off and fans will get more football.
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You're not wrong in any of that, but contracts are key. There'll be a mixture of players hell bent on leaving their current contract regardless on 30th June even without having a club to go to. As a free agent, they'll be in a great position to negotiate a new club when a new season resumes. Similarly clubs will have players they don't want to pay wages to after 30th June, as is their right. Once clubs have different rosters from when the league was postponed then the "integrity of the competition", something I keep hearing a lot about in the argument to resume whenever, will be completely lost.
It's done by the 30th June or it's done. I really don't see how it can't be.
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Players can leave mid season then if they can't reach an agreement with their current club. Hardly a massive issue.
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Of course it's an issue. As a free agent they can sign for whomever they please. So you could technically have a player who played for one club upon postponement, now signed on for another. That's against the integrity of the competition.
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That may be so, but it's an unprecedented situation so the usual rules will not apply. Voiding a three quarters complete season is hardly preserving the integrity either.
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Once the contracts become an issue it's a whole new ball game. I agree voiding a season that's 75-80% done isn't great, but you said it yourself, it's an unprecedented situation.
posted on 28/3/20
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
Either the season doesn't finish or next season doesn't happen imo. Either are realistic scinarios but with Europe's other top leagues leaning toward voiding the season/play offs for relegation/ promotion i don't see the PL giving up 38 games for 8.
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This season can be wrapped up in a 4 week period. If a 38 game season is possible for next season, then so is the completion of this season. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
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Don't some teams potentially have 20 games left? You can't do that in 28 days.
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They've already talked about turning the CL into a mini competition to finish it off.
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So say that's 2 weeks, 2.5 for europa, now where does the FA Cup and PL fit in?
You said 4 weeks....
posted on 28/3/20
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He has a point. The longer this goes on the more ridiculous it is to finish a season.
Players will be in pre season mode and it'll be a bit of a farce.
All the teams who got into good form have lost momentum and visa versa. Any accomplishment or failure will be with an asterisk next to it.
Just give Liverpool their title to shut them up and move ob.
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‘To shut up’ if it was any club any other fan supported you would all be saying exactly the same. You’re all so pathetic finding anyway for us not to win it. We literally need 2 more wins, why should we agree to finish the season, when it’s almost finished!
posted on 28/3/20
This happened in Chile
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world/chile-protests-chilean-primera-division-universidad-catolica-latest-update-champions-league-season-a9227411.html%3Famp
Might be an idea - might not
But leagues have been abandoned before
posted on 28/3/20
As a United fan I want to see the season finished to see if we can have a crack at top 4, FACup and Europa League. Still a lot to play for.
However, we must also accept this may not be possible and that we'll be playing Europa League football next season as well.
If that's the case so be it but it would be pretty disappointing after we looked to have found a bit of form. Having said that this is an unprecedented situation so the best thing to do is accept the resolution that's best for the health of everyone.
posted on 28/3/20
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 51 seconds ago
I dont really care anymore. I think people will show more and more apathy about finishing this season the longer we go on.
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Fair play, that's your feelings toward the situation.
Many others though, can't wait to get back to some sort of normality.
Maybe you personally could take a 18 month hiatus from football, which would seemingly be best for you.
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Yeah because me not caring whether we finish this season means I dont want normality.
Of course I want normality. I just don't care one bit whether returning to normal involves carrying on the season or starting again. There are much more important things to be concerned about.
posted on 28/3/20
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 18 minutes ago
The only way you will get a sensible debate on this issue is if you don't include Liverpool supporters.
The ones on this forum cannot bring themselves to even contemplate it happening regardless of how sensible and likely it might be.
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We I'm a wolves fan and I think it would be a disgrace to just abandon a season three quarters of the way through. There isn't a single reason why it would need to happen. Yeah but next season gets ruined? Does it? Why can't we play all this seasons games and next seasons? Surely that is the best for everyone, we all get ALL the games played so financially clubs will be better off and fans will get more football.
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You're not wrong in any of that, but contracts are key. There'll be a mixture of players hell bent on leaving their current contract regardless on 30th June even without having a club to go to. As a free agent, they'll be in a great position to negotiate a new club when a new season resumes. Similarly clubs will have players they don't want to pay wages to after 30th June, as is their right. Once clubs have different rosters from when the league was postponed then the "integrity of the competition", something I keep hearing a lot about in the argument to resume whenever, will be completely lost.
It's done by the 30th June or it's done. I really don't see how it can't be.
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Players can leave mid season then if they can't reach an agreement with their current club. Hardly a massive issue.
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Of course it's an issue. As a free agent they can sign for whomever they please. So you could technically have a player who played for one club upon postponement, now signed on for another. That's against the integrity of the competition.
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That may be so, but it's an unprecedented situation so the usual rules will not apply. Voiding a three quarters complete season is hardly preserving the integrity either.
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Once the contracts become an issue it's a whole new ball game. I agree voiding a season that's 75-80% done isn't great, but you said it yourself, it's an unprecedented situation.
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Yeah, might see players' contracts expiring mid season which hasn't happened before. But if that happens, so be it. It's hardly impossible.
posted on 28/3/20
Surprised people are downplaying players contracts as well. It is a massive issue, one that becomes greater as you go down the leagues.
posted on 28/3/20
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
As a United fan I want to see the season finished to see if we can have a crack at top 4, FACup and Europa League. Still a lot to play for.
However, we must also accept this may not be possible and that we'll be playing Europa League football next season as well.
If that's the case so be it but it would be pretty disappointing after we looked to have found a bit of form. Having said that this is an unprecedented situation so the best thing to do is accept the resolution that's best for the health of everyone.
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Or we could jump up and down screaming it’s not fair like Liverpool fans?
posted on 28/3/20
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 8 seconds ago
Surprised people are downplaying players contracts as well. It is a massive issue, one that becomes greater as you go down the leagues.
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It sure is. I've seen Liverpool fans say that teams could just extend them, completely ignoring that a contract is a two way agreement.
posted on 28/3/20
With a vaccine at least a year or so away can anyone actually see people being allowed to attend games for at least a year?
posted on 28/3/20
comment by Bryan ROBBson (U22311)
posted 43 seconds ago
With a vaccine at least a year or so away can anyone actually see people being allowed to attend games for at least a year?
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Can’t see it anytime soon
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