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posted on 28/3/20

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posted on 28/3/20

7. Tuberculosis 1,566 2.7

You have to go down 7 places to find a specified disease rather than just a medical condition.

posted on 28/3/20

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
7. Tuberculosis 1,566 2.7

You have to go down 7 places to find a specified disease rather than just a medical condition.
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well I didn't want to include Corona into the respiratory illness category of 3.4m because then everyone starts barking about how this isn't the flu and you can't compare it.

yet in reality these numbers for covid will be bundled into next years flu and pneumonia figures

posted on 28/3/20

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posted on 28/3/20

comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
it'll get an extension if this goes on.
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Boris has already ruled out extending the transition period. Which would be economic suicide.

posted on 28/3/20

well I didn't want to include Corona into the respiratory illness category
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well it is...

posted on 28/3/20

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posted on 28/3/20

comment by RB&W 'The Judge' (U21434)
posted 32 seconds ago
well I didn't want to include Corona into the respiratory illness category
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well it is...


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exactly

so next year when 3.4 is maybe 3.7, the context im talking about, the impact of coronavirus, may be understood to you

posted on 28/3/20

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comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 29/3/20

Yo Revolutiuon, seen you going around threads lately just wumming. Using Hillsborough etc, so get the fack in line of fack off all together.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by RB&W 'The Judge' (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
the impact of coronavirus, may be understood to you
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You have no idea, do you?
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again, how many do you think this will kill?

its been 3 months now, we're at 30k, it seems Asia, Europe and North America are saturated so we should see the peak very soon.

lets assume it suddenly goes up 10x (which break the curve int he model but still) so 300k

3.8m died last year of respiratory illnesses, if we add on 300k that's a roughly 7.5% "spike"

just because the media have you all locked down to protect the elderly and infirm please don't make out this is th next wave of bubonic plague.

I just find it quite fascinating we don't lockdown every year to stop people spreading influenza or rhinovirus, ban smoking to reduce emphysema? I mean these currently cause 3.8m deaths a year and all could be managed with lockdowns and bans but lets shut up shop for 7.5% spike

posted on 29/3/20

Leading Tories admitted we will face 5 years of austerity after Brexit.

Jacob Rees-Mogg said it will be 50 years before we reap the benefits.

All those predictions were made before the pandemic.

I don't see how having to pump £400 Billion into the economy because of the virus will improve our already faltering standard of living when Brexit is thrust upon us.

posted on 29/3/20

I just find it quite fascinating we don't lockdown every year to stop people spreading influenza or rhinovirus,
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That's clearly because you are as thick as pig 5hit, soft lad.

posted on 29/3/20

I don't think a bout of Rhinovirus is going to lead to thousands of people strapped to ventilators as they fight for life.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by RB&W 'The Judge' (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
I just find it quite fascinating we don't lockdown every year to stop people spreading influenza or rhinovirus,
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That's clearly because you are as thick as pig 5hit, soft lad.
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right if you say so

you've been so quick to shoot down stats and figures with childish responses so clearly you aren't up for a debate

go back to stockpiling toilet paper

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W 'The Judge' (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
the impact of coronavirus, may be understood to you
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You have no idea, do you?
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again, how many do you think this will kill?

its been 3 months now, we're at 30k, it seems Asia, Europe and North America are saturated so we should see the peak very soon.

lets assume it suddenly goes up 10x (which break the curve int he model but still) so 300k

3.8m died last year of respiratory illnesses, if we add on 300k that's a roughly 7.5% "spike"

just because the media have you all locked down to protect the elderly and infirm please don't make out this is th next wave of bubonic plague.

I just find it quite fascinating we don't lockdown every year to stop people spreading influenza or rhinovirus, ban smoking to reduce emphysema? I mean these currently cause 3.8m deaths a year and all could be managed with lockdowns and bans but lets shut up shop for 7.5% spike
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We have vaccines for flu. And nobody has ever, not once, been proven to die either directly or indirectly through passive smoking. Whereas this disease is spreading and spreading quickly. It's far more infectious than influenza. There is no vaccine. And the death rate for those infected is much higher than that of influenza. Lockdowns are the only things keeping this remotely at bay.

And it is still going to lead to the biggest spike in death rate this year. And that is a big thing, no matter how much you mock it

posted on 29/3/20

That's clearly because you are as thick as pig 5hit, soft lad.
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right if you say so

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well somebody has too say it.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't be our Special One? (U1132)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W 'The Judge' (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
the impact of coronavirus, may be understood to you
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You have no idea, do you?
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again, how many do you think this will kill?

its been 3 months now, we're at 30k, it seems Asia, Europe and North America are saturated so we should see the peak very soon.

lets assume it suddenly goes up 10x (which break the curve int he model but still) so 300k

3.8m died last year of respiratory illnesses, if we add on 300k that's a roughly 7.5% "spike"

just because the media have you all locked down to protect the elderly and infirm please don't make out this is th next wave of bubonic plague.

I just find it quite fascinating we don't lockdown every year to stop people spreading influenza or rhinovirus, ban smoking to reduce emphysema? I mean these currently cause 3.8m deaths a year and all could be managed with lockdowns and bans but lets shut up shop for 7.5% spike
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We have vaccines for flu. And nobody has ever, not once, been proven to die either directly or indirectly through passive smoking. Whereas this disease is spreading and spreading quickly. It's far more infectious than influenza. There is no vaccine. And the death rate for those infected is much higher than that of influenza. Lockdowns are the only things keeping this remotely at bay.

And it is still going to lead to the biggest spike in death rate this year. And that is a big thing, no matter how much you mock it
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This has been explained to him numerous times. Yet he continues to play it down and make strawman arguments regarding the severity of it.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yo Revolutiuon, seen you going around threads lately just wumming. Using Hillsborough etc, so get the fack in line of fack off all together.
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Mister, haven’t mentioned the ‘H‘ word once

I spoke about Scouse’s being moaners - not sure how one draws the comparison

I’m not interested 1 iota in discussing Hillsborough, so please don’t bring it up

posted on 29/3/20

comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't be our Special One? (U1132)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W 'The Judge' (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
the impact of coronavirus, may be understood to you
++



You have no idea, do you?
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again, how many do you think this will kill?

its been 3 months now, we're at 30k, it seems Asia, Europe and North America are saturated so we should see the peak very soon.

lets assume it suddenly goes up 10x (which break the curve int he model but still) so 300k

3.8m died last year of respiratory illnesses, if we add on 300k that's a roughly 7.5% "spike"

just because the media have you all locked down to protect the elderly and infirm please don't make out this is th next wave of bubonic plague.

I just find it quite fascinating we don't lockdown every year to stop people spreading influenza or rhinovirus, ban smoking to reduce emphysema? I mean these currently cause 3.8m deaths a year and all could be managed with lockdowns and bans but lets shut up shop for 7.5% spike
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We have vaccines for flu. And nobody has ever, not once, been proven to die either directly or indirectly through passive smoking. Whereas this disease is spreading and spreading quickly. It's far more infectious than influenza. There is no vaccine. And the death rate for those infected is much higher than that of influenza. Lockdowns are the only things keeping this remotely at bay.

And it is still going to lead to the biggest spike in death rate this year. And that is a big thing, no matter how much you mock it
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right once again, no-one is mocking it

30k deaths in 3 months is not a spike of anything, 150k people die every day primarily of the causes listed above.

the death rate is only based on tested, confirmed, dead.

many global leaders in medicine have said they believe many many more people have had coronavirus but didn't get tested because it was so mild, the infection rate could multiples higher than it actually is. imagine if in reality several million have actually had it for 30k deaths, suddenly not sooo scary.

also who said passive smoking? if we are trying to protect lives that we are all willing to give up our freedoms then why don't we ban smoking to save lives?

vaccine? its about 50% effective against B and 37% effective against type A

also Boris, rhinovirus is one of the leading causes of lower respiratory infections which lead to death counted in the table above.

so I ask again, if we care so much about protecting at risk life from respiratory illness why don't we employ the same tactics against the other virus' which claim far more lives every year?

posted on 29/3/20

As mentioned above, in line with the OP thread

I hope we leave the EU come 31st December - deal or no deal - irrespective of the current crisis

Personally, with all the uncertainty with the current situation, I still think there’ll be enough of a deal to leave with one in the said date 👍🏼

posted on 29/3/20

The figures are distorted on a global scale because Flu is a killer in poorer countries as they don't have an immunisation program like we do here.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)

posted 2 minutes ago

As mentioned above, in line with the OP thread

I hope we leave the EU come 31st December - deal or no deal - irrespective of the current crisis

Personally, with all the uncertainty with the current situation, I still think there’ll be enough of a deal to leave with one in the said date
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I doubt Italy and Spain will have trade deals with the UK high on their agendas in the next few months.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)

posted 2 minutes ago

As mentioned above, in line with the OP thread

I hope we leave the EU come 31st December - deal or no deal - irrespective of the current crisis

Personally, with all the uncertainty with the current situation, I still think there’ll be enough of a deal to leave with one in the said date
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I doubt Italy and Spain will have trade deals with the UK high on their agendas in the next few months.
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TBH I don’t think Italy or Spain are high on our agenda for striking trade deals

posted on 29/3/20

Striking trade deals won’t be high on anyone’s agenda right now, which is why it’s a bad idea to not extend the transition period.

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