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posted on 29/3/20

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 seconds ago
Watching Andrew Marr.

Lockdown until June.
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Wrong

Wrong

Wrong

Yet again.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 9 hours, 28 minutes ago
Has farage got corona yet? Just wondering, as if Boris has and he did, it might make my religious yet...
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Couldn't happen to a better candidate than Farage ....
other than Trump his fat assed self!

posted on 29/3/20

comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 48 seconds ago
The Tories are doing whatever they can to save their own assses, as usual. They are not telling us everything, just drip feeding us bits, day by day, so that they cannot be held to account.

When it is all over, they will distance themselves completely from anything they should have done earlier, then get on with trashing low paid workers again, the very people that are helping us through this crisis.

After months and months of telling us cleaners, low paid workers are worthless, they are now the very ones we are all relying on.

The Tories really are shameless, and will do whatever it takes to stay in power.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The herd immunity thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. It was basically a front to keep businesses running as normal for as long as possible.

For one thing, how could you possibly implement such a strategy before a vaccine existed? You couldn't possibly protect the elderly and vulnerable.

Even if you accept Boris doesn't really give a shoot about the elderly and vulnerable, then herd immunity still direct make sense. So it's better for us all to get it in phases? If that's the case, then why allow people to come and go as they please for so long. That was always going to lead to the overwhelming of the health sector we will see in the next week or two.

He's so incompetent and flawed, that he managed to catch the disease himself!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s following the scientific advice so essentially you are suggesting they are incompetent and flawed.

Really?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's following the scientific advice he chooses to follow. Nobody is in overall agreement in this. It's certainly not the scientific advice other leaders and countries have taken. And even he hasn't spoken about the ludicrous herd immunity in weeks, such was the absolute boll licks I was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The scientists he has at his disposal are the best our country has to offer. What else is he to follow?

And yes he was foolish to state herd immunity so early on but eventually that’s where we will be.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 48 seconds ago
The Tories are doing whatever they can to save their own assses, as usual. They are not telling us everything, just drip feeding us bits, day by day, so that they cannot be held to account.

When it is all over, they will distance themselves completely from anything they should have done earlier, then get on with trashing low paid workers again, the very people that are helping us through this crisis.

After months and months of telling us cleaners, low paid workers are worthless, they are now the very ones we are all relying on.

The Tories really are shameless, and will do whatever it takes to stay in power.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The herd immunity thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. It was basically a front to keep businesses running as normal for as long as possible.

For one thing, how could you possibly implement such a strategy before a vaccine existed? You couldn't possibly protect the elderly and vulnerable.

Even if you accept Boris doesn't really give a shoot about the elderly and vulnerable, then herd immunity still direct make sense. So it's better for us all to get it in phases? If that's the case, then why allow people to come and go as they please for so long. That was always going to lead to the overwhelming of the health sector we will see in the next week or two.

He's so incompetent and flawed, that he managed to catch the disease himself!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s following the scientific advice so essentially you are suggesting they are incompetent and flawed.

Really?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was he though? If he was, why did all others around the world asked to see it? And then why did they backtrack?

posted on 29/3/20

Comment deleted by Site Moderator

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 48 seconds ago
The Tories are doing whatever they can to save their own assses, as usual. They are not telling us everything, just drip feeding us bits, day by day, so that they cannot be held to account.

When it is all over, they will distance themselves completely from anything they should have done earlier, then get on with trashing low paid workers again, the very people that are helping us through this crisis.

After months and months of telling us cleaners, low paid workers are worthless, they are now the very ones we are all relying on.

The Tories really are shameless, and will do whatever it takes to stay in power.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The herd immunity thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. It was basically a front to keep businesses running as normal for as long as possible.

For one thing, how could you possibly implement such a strategy before a vaccine existed? You couldn't possibly protect the elderly and vulnerable.

Even if you accept Boris doesn't really give a shoot about the elderly and vulnerable, then herd immunity still direct make sense. So it's better for us all to get it in phases? If that's the case, then why allow people to come and go as they please for so long. That was always going to lead to the overwhelming of the health sector we will see in the next week or two.

He's so incompetent and flawed, that he managed to catch the disease himself!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s following the scientific advice so essentially you are suggesting they are incompetent and flawed.

Really?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's following the scientific advice he chooses to follow. Nobody is in overall agreement in this. It's certainly not the scientific advice other leaders and countries have taken. And even he hasn't spoken about the ludicrous herd immunity in weeks, such was the absolute boll licks I was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The scientists he has at his disposal are the best our country has to offer. What else is he to follow?

And yes he was foolish to state herd immunity so early on but eventually that’s where we will be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The assumption you're (wrongly) making is that all the best scientists we have came to the same conclusions. In reality, he chose to listen to those who told him what he wanted to hear. The results of which we are yet to fully see

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 seconds ago
Watching Andrew Marr.

Lockdown until June.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Wrong

Wrong

Wrong

Yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry who’s wrong? The epidemiologist and pandemic expert, or you?

posted on 29/3/20

Comment deleted by Site Moderator

posted on 29/3/20

What is your problem?

Which comment is that aimed at?
++

each one he has posted on this thread, basically.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 51 seconds ago
The UK isn't in lockdown, it's controlled herd immunity.
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Wrong.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by CurrentlyIntheUK (U11181)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 48 seconds ago
The Tories are doing whatever they can to save their own assses, as usual. They are not telling us everything, just drip feeding us bits, day by day, so that they cannot be held to account.

When it is all over, they will distance themselves completely from anything they should have done earlier, then get on with trashing low paid workers again, the very people that are helping us through this crisis.

After months and months of telling us cleaners, low paid workers are worthless, they are now the very ones we are all relying on.

The Tories really are shameless, and will do whatever it takes to stay in power.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The herd immunity thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. It was basically a front to keep businesses running as normal for as long as possible.

For one thing, how could you possibly implement such a strategy before a vaccine existed? You couldn't possibly protect the elderly and vulnerable.

Even if you accept Boris doesn't really give a shoot about the elderly and vulnerable, then herd immunity still direct make sense. So it's better for us all to get it in phases? If that's the case, then why allow people to come and go as they please for so long. That was always going to lead to the overwhelming of the health sector we will see in the next week or two.

He's so incompetent and flawed, that he managed to catch the disease himself!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s following the scientific advice so essentially you are suggesting they are incompetent and flawed.

Really?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was he though? If he was, why did all others around the world asked to see it? And then why did they backtrack?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They stand up and talk to us practically every evening so yes I believe he is. Why on earth wouldn’t he?

Nobody on this planet knows how this will pan out. Every country is different so we are going to be subjected to all sorts of theories, graphs, projections and outright guesses, some of which are based more on other diseases and viruses and some far more radical.

The point being nobody knows for certain so the question as to who was correct and who was incorrect won’t be known for some time. All anyone can do is listen to the advice and go with weight and opinion but at the end of it all there’s still an element of guess albeit supported by basic principles such as cleanliness, distancing etc.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 seconds ago
Watching Andrew Marr.

Lockdown until June.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Wrong

Wrong

Wrong

Yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry who’s wrong? The epidemiologist and pandemic expert, or you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You

There is no lockdown until June

There may yet be depending upon people’s behaviour and what we learn in between but there is no lockdown until June.

Quite simply and yet again you are wrong.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by CurrentlyIntheUK (U11181)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 48 seconds ago
The Tories are doing whatever they can to save their own assses, as usual. They are not telling us everything, just drip feeding us bits, day by day, so that they cannot be held to account.

When it is all over, they will distance themselves completely from anything they should have done earlier, then get on with trashing low paid workers again, the very people that are helping us through this crisis.

After months and months of telling us cleaners, low paid workers are worthless, they are now the very ones we are all relying on.

The Tories really are shameless, and will do whatever it takes to stay in power.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The herd immunity thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. It was basically a front to keep businesses running as normal for as long as possible.

For one thing, how could you possibly implement such a strategy before a vaccine existed? You couldn't possibly protect the elderly and vulnerable.

Even if you accept Boris doesn't really give a shoot about the elderly and vulnerable, then herd immunity still direct make sense. So it's better for us all to get it in phases? If that's the case, then why allow people to come and go as they please for so long. That was always going to lead to the overwhelming of the health sector we will see in the next week or two.

He's so incompetent and flawed, that he managed to catch the disease himself!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s following the scientific advice so essentially you are suggesting they are incompetent and flawed.

Really?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was he though? If he was, why did all others around the world asked to see it? And then why did they backtrack?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They stand up and talk to us practically every evening so yes I believe he is. Why on earth wouldn’t he?

Nobody on this planet knows how this will pan out. Every country is different so we are going to be subjected to all sorts of theories, graphs, projections and outright guesses, some of which are based more on other diseases and viruses and some far more radical.

The point being nobody knows for certain so the question as to who was correct and who was incorrect won’t be known for some time. All anyone can do is listen to the advice and go with weight and opinion but at the end of it all there’s still an element of guess albeit supported by basic principles such as cleanliness, distancing etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lockdown until June, and social distancing to go on even longer than that.

I don’t like the idea anymore than you do, but that’s where we are.

posted on 29/3/20

what does Lockdown mean?

posted on 29/3/20

comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 48 seconds ago
The Tories are doing whatever they can to save their own assses, as usual. They are not telling us everything, just drip feeding us bits, day by day, so that they cannot be held to account.

When it is all over, they will distance themselves completely from anything they should have done earlier, then get on with trashing low paid workers again, the very people that are helping us through this crisis.

After months and months of telling us cleaners, low paid workers are worthless, they are now the very ones we are all relying on.

The Tories really are shameless, and will do whatever it takes to stay in power.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The herd immunity thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. It was basically a front to keep businesses running as normal for as long as possible.

For one thing, how could you possibly implement such a strategy before a vaccine existed? You couldn't possibly protect the elderly and vulnerable.

Even if you accept Boris doesn't really give a shoot about the elderly and vulnerable, then herd immunity still direct make sense. So it's better for us all to get it in phases? If that's the case, then why allow people to come and go as they please for so long. That was always going to lead to the overwhelming of the health sector we will see in the next week or two.

He's so incompetent and flawed, that he managed to catch the disease himself!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s following the scientific advice so essentially you are suggesting they are incompetent and flawed.

Really?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's following the scientific advice he chooses to follow. Nobody is in overall agreement in this. It's certainly not the scientific advice other leaders and countries have taken. And even he hasn't spoken about the ludicrous herd immunity in weeks, such was the absolute boll licks I was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The scientists he has at his disposal are the best our country has to offer. What else is he to follow?

And yes he was foolish to state herd immunity so early on but eventually that’s where we will be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The assumption you're (wrongly) making is that all the best scientists we have came to the same conclusions. In reality, he chose to listen to those who told him what he wanted to hear. The results of which we are yet to fully see
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Firstly you have no idea if my assumption is wrong or not. You can’t possibly have.

And how on earth would you know the basis of the PM’s actions? You can’t possibly know this. You think he just had some wild theory and went with the advice that was nearest to it?

Really?

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by CurrentlyIntheUK (U11181)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 48 seconds ago
The Tories are doing whatever they can to save their own assses, as usual. They are not telling us everything, just drip feeding us bits, day by day, so that they cannot be held to account.

When it is all over, they will distance themselves completely from anything they should have done earlier, then get on with trashing low paid workers again, the very people that are helping us through this crisis.

After months and months of telling us cleaners, low paid workers are worthless, they are now the very ones we are all relying on.

The Tories really are shameless, and will do whatever it takes to stay in power.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The herd immunity thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. It was basically a front to keep businesses running as normal for as long as possible.

For one thing, how could you possibly implement such a strategy before a vaccine existed? You couldn't possibly protect the elderly and vulnerable.

Even if you accept Boris doesn't really give a shoot about the elderly and vulnerable, then herd immunity still direct make sense. So it's better for us all to get it in phases? If that's the case, then why allow people to come and go as they please for so long. That was always going to lead to the overwhelming of the health sector we will see in the next week or two.

He's so incompetent and flawed, that he managed to catch the disease himself!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s following the scientific advice so essentially you are suggesting they are incompetent and flawed.

Really?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Was he though? If he was, why did all others around the world asked to see it? And then why did they backtrack?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They stand up and talk to us practically every evening so yes I believe he is. Why on earth wouldn’t he?

Nobody on this planet knows how this will pan out. Every country is different so we are going to be subjected to all sorts of theories, graphs, projections and outright guesses, some of which are based more on other diseases and viruses and some far more radical.

The point being nobody knows for certain so the question as to who was correct and who was incorrect won’t be known for some time. All anyone can do is listen to the advice and go with weight and opinion but at the end of it all there’s still an element of guess albeit supported by basic principles such as cleanliness, distancing etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lockdown until June, and social distancing to go on even longer than that.

I don’t like the idea anymore than you do, but that’s where we are.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I really wish you had the ability to listen and understand.

Unfortunately you don’t.

posted on 29/3/20

BBC weatherman on the Marr programme just said that if he are planning to go out today to take a coat as it will be a bit chilly.

Is this Lockdown?

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 8 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
it'll get an extension if this goes on.
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Boris has already ruled out extending the transition period. Which would be economic suicide.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

How will it?


You have some crystal ball that shows the EU will pull together and not look after their own national interest set a first.

Or how they will prop up Italy, Spain etc. I can assume that large tourist dependant areas in Europnewill boom once this is over?

posted on 29/3/20

comment by RB&W 'The Judge' (U21434)
posted 58 seconds ago
BBC weatherman on the Marr programme just said that if he are planning to go out today to take a coat as it will be a bit chilly.

Is this Lockdown?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yep

Hope it’s not chilly until June mind

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't... (U1132)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 48 seconds ago
The Tories are doing whatever they can to save their own assses, as usual. They are not telling us everything, just drip feeding us bits, day by day, so that they cannot be held to account.

When it is all over, they will distance themselves completely from anything they should have done earlier, then get on with trashing low paid workers again, the very people that are helping us through this crisis.

After months and months of telling us cleaners, low paid workers are worthless, they are now the very ones we are all relying on.

The Tories really are shameless, and will do whatever it takes to stay in power.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The herd immunity thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. It was basically a front to keep businesses running as normal for as long as possible.

For one thing, how could you possibly implement such a strategy before a vaccine existed? You couldn't possibly protect the elderly and vulnerable.

Even if you accept Boris doesn't really give a shoot about the elderly and vulnerable, then herd immunity still direct make sense. So it's better for us all to get it in phases? If that's the case, then why allow people to come and go as they please for so long. That was always going to lead to the overwhelming of the health sector we will see in the next week or two.

He's so incompetent and flawed, that he managed to catch the disease himself!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s following the scientific advice so essentially you are suggesting they are incompetent and flawed.

Really?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's following the scientific advice he chooses to follow. Nobody is in overall agreement in this. It's certainly not the scientific advice other leaders and countries have taken. And even he hasn't spoken about the ludicrous herd immunity in weeks, such was the absolute boll licks I was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The scientists he has at his disposal are the best our country has to offer. What else is he to follow?

And yes he was foolish to state herd immunity so early on but eventually that’s where we will be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The assumption you're (wrongly) making is that all the best scientists we have came to the same conclusions. In reality, he chose to listen to those who told him what he wanted to hear. The results of which we are yet to fully see
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Firstly you have no idea if my assumption is wrong or not. You can’t possibly have.

And how on earth would you know the basis of the PM’s actions? You can’t possibly know this. You think he just had some wild theory and went with the advice that was nearest to it?

Really?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's absolutely what I think. To think that all the best scientists we have came to a conclusion so far removed than the best scientists in every other country is insane. It just is. Use your head. He listened to what he wanted the hear.

posted on 29/3/20

Derby police have vandalised a picturesque lagoon in Buxton with black ink to deter people from visiting it.

Is this lockdown, too.

posted on 29/3/20

Comment deleted by Site Moderator

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga... (U1308)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 8 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Ban Wissaka (U5318)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
it'll get an extension if this goes on.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Boris has already ruled out extending the transition period. Which would be economic suicide.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

How will it?


You have some crystal ball that shows the EU will pull together and not look after their own national interest set a first.

Or how they will prop up Italy, Spain etc. I can assume that large tourist dependant areas in Europnewill boom once this is over?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The EU will be all but defunct after all this I’d imagine.

How can they possibly go back to this so called unity when practically every member country has battened down the hatches and undertaken measures to solely protect their own borders and citizens and then start to reimplement their rules?

Each country will have to pay its own bill and recoup the money from its own population. The notion that on top of this they will continue to fund the EU project whilst they suffer will be way down the agenda and their leadership in all of this is up for serious question.

The infrequent noises coming from Brussels are solely those of job protection. Nothing more.

posted on 29/3/20

Being one of t he at risk/vulnerability I can’t wait to be first in line to get this magic vaccine that like the flu will stop people getting covid-19.

And seeing people wash their hands correctly all year round, coughing and sneezing into tissues etc.

Then we won’t see any covid deaths like we don’t see any from those who have a four vaccine.

posted on 29/3/20

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 seconds ago
Watching Andrew Marr.

Lockdown until June.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Wrong

Wrong

Wrong

Yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry who’s wrong? The epidemiologist and pandemic expert, or you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You

There is no lockdown until June

There may yet be depending upon people’s behaviour and what we learn in between but there is no lockdown until June.

Quite simply and yet again you are wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You would have to be completely stupid to think that this is all going to be over before June. In all probability it will go on for the rest of the year in one form or another, maybe even longer.

You don`t think they would be putting in place these field hospitals, given out untold amounts of money to keep the economy afloat, if this was a going to be a short term couple of months thingy.

The Tories have basically trashed their whole economic plan of the past 10 years, in the space of two weeks.

Believe me this is serious.

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