But there are consequences due to it. Could be the difference between relegation and european qualification for a number of clubs. Which is why I question the idea that it’s fair and without compromise, it clearly isn’t.
Billy the yidd just pm'ed me and he says he is happy to accept Liverpool are the best team in the land and he would consider them champs in his mind regardless of what happens.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
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Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
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Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
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This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
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Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
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Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
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This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
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None of the possible solutions to this situation are fair.
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
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Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
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Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
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This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
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comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 7 hours, 22 minutes ago
Fact is that for as long as there is a solution, and as long as the limited staff involved have been quarantined for a safe period, there is nothing to stop games behind closed doors.
The financial implications are massive and as much as people hate to admit it, that will also be a factor.
It's not like thousands will be allowed to die from football if/when it goes ahead but I accept this situation puts football in perspective.
Sport just isnt important by comparison but that certainly doesn't undermine the achievement if Liverpool, as we expect, win the league.
They broke countless records and destroyed the league way before this crisis occurred. Anyone suggesting their achievement will be tainted from a football perspective is crazy.
Do we discount Madrid ECs when no one entered the comp? Do we discount league titles during the gulf and Afghan wars? Exactly.
This will go on for some time and I can see it taking many many months to conclude with no guarantee next season will even start. Def not before 2021 imo
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I am so afraid that you are right.
Three quarters of clubs would not survive all the way to 2021 without income. Nobody has enough reserves to cover that period, not even the PL itself.
I said yesterday that football as we know it is under a big threat.
All the football companies could be wound up next year and we start afresh. https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/420470
Makes me laugh with certified fools saying to cancel this season to prepare for the next, they assume Covid will be gone by then or what?
Dunno if it's already been said but clubs will lose out to the tune of £763m if they stop the season now, just in telly rights. That works out as £38m a club. Not all clubs get paid the same though so Norwich will probably lose £20-£25m while Pool will be short £49-£52m. Kit sales, match day revenues and so on will add £3-£9m. Now add in Europa an CL revenue and Pool could be another £40m down. Fecking ada.
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 27 minutes ago
Dunno if it's already been said but clubs will lose out to the tune of £763m if they stop the season now, just in telly rights. That works out as £38m a club. Not all clubs get paid the same though so Norwich will probably lose £20-£25m while Pool will be short £49-£52m. Kit sales, match day revenues and so on will add £3-£9m. Now add in Europa an CL revenue and Pool could be another £40m down. Fecking ada.
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How much will they lose if this season is played to a finish in the autumn meaning season 20/21 can't happen?
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 27 minutes ago
Dunno if it's already been said but clubs will lose out to the tune of £763m if they stop the season now, just in telly rights. That works out as £38m a club. Not all clubs get paid the same though so Norwich will probably lose £20-£25m while Pool will be short £49-£52m. Kit sales, match day revenues and so on will add £3-£9m. Now add in Europa an CL revenue and Pool could be another £40m down. Fecking ada.
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How much will they lose if this season is played to a finish in the autumn meaning season 20/21 can't happen?
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If that were to happen then new deals for next season can be agreed between the parties. Perhaps a shortened season if necessary.
The horse has already bolted for this season though.
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 39 minutes ago
Dunno if it's already been said but clubs will lose out to the tune of £763m if they stop the season now, just in telly rights. That works out as £38m a club. Not all clubs get paid the same though so Norwich will probably lose £20-£25m while Pool will be short £49-£52m. Kit sales, match day revenues and so on will add £3-£9m. Now add in Europa an CL revenue and Pool could be another £40m down. Fecking ada.
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Its been said many times now. For some reason its not getting through to most people. Just wait and see. Posters on this thread will be peddling the same sheet on the next thread as if this fact has not been pointed out to them 100 times.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 39 minutes ago
Dunno if it's already been said but clubs will lose out to the tune of £763m if they stop the season now, just in telly rights. That works out as £38m a club. Not all clubs get paid the same though so Norwich will probably lose £20-£25m while Pool will be short £49-£52m. Kit sales, match day revenues and so on will add £3-£9m. Now add in Europa an CL revenue and Pool could be another £40m down. Fecking ada.
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Its been said many times now. For some reason its not getting through to most people. Just wait and see. Posters on this thread will be peddling the same sheet on the next thread as if this fact has not been pointed out to them 100 times.
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Yep. This place is very repetitive at the moment.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 39 minutes ago
Dunno if it's already been said but clubs will lose out to the tune of £763m if they stop the season now, just in telly rights. That works out as £38m a club. Not all clubs get paid the same though so Norwich will probably lose £20-£25m while Pool will be short £49-£52m. Kit sales, match day revenues and so on will add £3-£9m. Now add in Europa an CL revenue and Pool could be another £40m down. Fecking ada.
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Its been said many times now. For some reason its not getting through to most people. Just wait and see. Posters on this thread will be peddling the same sheet on the next thread as if this fact has not been pointed out to them 100 times.
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You can point it out a million times if folk don't agree with you they will let you know.
As I have repeatedly said whatever the financial implications are for not completing this season I don't think a whole season is getting binned off for a quarter of another.
Nothing new is happening. Just us, reiterating the same points over and over.
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 7 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
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Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
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Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
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This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
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Billy's argument is nonsensical. Every single season involves numerous games that are postponed for a few weeks (this is the reason that 4 teams have played fewer league matches). So every season teams can benefit from a postponement that allows an j injured player to recover - yet it is only an issue right now for some reason?
How far do we take this? If a player is injured and expected to he out for 10 weeks, but makes a miraculous recovery in 4, is it an unfair advantage for that team? Should that player be forced to be sidelined until his predicted recovery period occurs?
Your argument is only consistent if you accept that nearly every season has lost its integrity because of the same reason you think this season will.
Yeah but this is Bitter Billy we talking about here.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 7 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
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Billy's argument is nonsensical. Every single season involves numerous games that are postponed for a few weeks (this is the reason that 4 teams have played fewer league matches). So every season teams can benefit from a postponement that allows an j injured player to recover - yet it is only an issue right now for some reason?
How far do we take this? If a player is injured and expected to he out for 10 weeks, but makes a miraculous recovery in 4, is it an unfair advantage for that team? Should that player be forced to be sidelined until his predicted recovery period occurs?
Your argument is only consistent if you accept that nearly every season has lost its integrity because of the same reason you think this season will.
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Jesus I`ve never read such nonsense, we know you are desperate but these comments are just complete tripe.
Which games are these fantasy postponements?
Apart from the postponement and rearrangement of games for cup ties, which everybody knows there is the potential for, and accepts, before a ball is even kicked. Comparing that to a 2 or 3 month season suspension is just desperation on your part.
There are endless other inconsistencies and variables that make it unfair also, players will become out of contract in July, clubs will be changing kit manufacturers and sponsors, squads are at different levels of fitness and will need another pre season before they can resume, etc etc etc I could be here all day.... but don`t let all that get in the way of your agenda.
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 7 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
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Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
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This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
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Billy's argument is nonsensical. Every single season involves numerous games that are postponed for a few weeks (this is the reason that 4 teams have played fewer league matches). So every season teams can benefit from a postponement that allows an j injured player to recover - yet it is only an issue right now for some reason?
How far do we take this? If a player is injured and expected to he out for 10 weeks, but makes a miraculous recovery in 4, is it an unfair advantage for that team? Should that player be forced to be sidelined until his predicted recovery period occurs?
Your argument is only consistent if you accept that nearly every season has lost its integrity because of the same reason you think this season will.
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Jesus I`ve never read such nonsense, we know you are desperate but these comments are just complete tripe.
Which games are these fantasy postponements?
Apart from the postponement and rearrangement of games for cup ties, which everybody knows there is the potential for, and accepts, before a ball is even kicked. Comparing that to a 2 or 3 month season suspension is just desperation on your part.
There are endless other inconsistencies and variables that make it unfair also, players will become out of contract in July, clubs will be changing kit manufacturers and sponsors, squads are at different levels of fitness and will need another pre season before they can resume, etc etc etc I could be here all day.... but don`t let all that get in the way of your agenda.
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Haha you are really struggling here.
Yes those "fantasy" postponements are due to cup ties. Arsenal were due to play Villa in February. This means that there may have been players unavailable for that match that would be available for the reschedule. This is exactly the situation which you claimed would ruin the integrity of the season (despite the fact that every team is in the same boat so it is applied fairly).
As for your other straws.
Yes players will become out of contract. Either they will get new contracts and stay, or they will leave and replacements brought in. If only there was another scenario where club squads might change midway through a season - we could call it the winter transfer window.
Clubs change kit sponsors and manufacturers - has absolutely 0 impact on the on- pitch game.
Squads at different levels of fitness - how? They are all in the same boat.
You could be here all day, and if you are here all day then you might eventually come up with a suggestion that you think through before posting.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 7 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
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Billy's argument is nonsensical. Every single season involves numerous games that are postponed for a few weeks (this is the reason that 4 teams have played fewer league matches). So every season teams can benefit from a postponement that allows an j injured player to recover - yet it is only an issue right now for some reason?
How far do we take this? If a player is injured and expected to he out for 10 weeks, but makes a miraculous recovery in 4, is it an unfair advantage for that team? Should that player be forced to be sidelined until his predicted recovery period occurs?
Your argument is only consistent if you accept that nearly every season has lost its integrity because of the same reason you think this season will.
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Jesus I`ve never read such nonsense, we know you are desperate but these comments are just complete tripe.
Which games are these fantasy postponements?
Apart from the postponement and rearrangement of games for cup ties, which everybody knows there is the potential for, and accepts, before a ball is even kicked. Comparing that to a 2 or 3 month season suspension is just desperation on your part.
There are endless other inconsistencies and variables that make it unfair also, players will become out of contract in July, clubs will be changing kit manufacturers and sponsors, squads are at different levels of fitness and will need another pre season before they can resume, etc etc etc I could be here all day.... but don`t let all that get in the way of your agenda.
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Haha you are really struggling here.
Yes those "fantasy" postponements are due to cup ties. Arsenal were due to play Villa in February. This means that there may have been players unavailable for that match that would be available for the reschedule. This is exactly the situation which you claimed would ruin the integrity of the season (despite the fact that every team is in the same boat so it is applied fairly).
As for your other straws.
Yes players will become out of contract. Either they will get new contracts and stay, or they will leave and replacements brought in. If only there was another scenario where club squads might change midway through a season - we could call it the winter transfer window.
Clubs change kit sponsors and manufacturers - has absolutely 0 impact on the on- pitch game.
Squads at different levels of fitness - how? They are all in the same boat.
You could be here all day, and if you are here all day then you might eventually come up with a suggestion that you think through before posting.
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Billy is not known for his thinking ability to be fair
I have no idea why people keep saying there has to be a cut off point when we have no idea when next season can even start.
Let's say it gets to June and we still can't start the season so we use that as a cut off point and declare it null and void, with the aim to start next season as normal in August. It gets to August and we still can't play, then October and still nothing. Then finally in December it's safe enough to resume normal life. Then what?
You can't fit a full 38 game season with all domestic comps in a 5 month span given the Euros are next summer. It would be impossible. So then you're in a situation where you can't carry on this season, nor can you start a new season.
The only sensible thing to do is wait and see what happens and then make a decision.
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comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 4 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 7 hours, 22 minutes ago
Fact is that for as long as there is a solution, and as long as the limited staff involved have been quarantined for a safe period, there is nothing to stop games behind closed doors.
The financial implications are massive and as much as people hate to admit it, that will also be a factor.
It's not like thousands will be allowed to die from football if/when it goes ahead but I accept this situation puts football in perspective.
Sport just isnt important by comparison but that certainly doesn't undermine the achievement if Liverpool, as we expect, win the league.
They broke countless records and destroyed the league way before this crisis occurred. Anyone suggesting their achievement will be tainted from a football perspective is crazy.
Do we discount Madrid ECs when no one entered the comp? Do we discount league titles during the gulf and Afghan wars? Exactly.
This will go on for some time and I can see it taking many many months to conclude with no guarantee next season will even start. Def not before 2021 imo
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I am so afraid that you are right.
Three quarters of clubs would not survive all the way to 2021 without income. Nobody has enough reserves to cover that period, not even the PL itself.
I said yesterday that football as we know it is under a big threat.
All the football companies could be wound up next year and we start afresh. https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/420470
Makes me laugh with certified fools saying to cancel this season to prepare for the next, they assume Covid will be gone by then or what?
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Tbh I think lots of the optimism regarding next season has probably been fuelled by people thinking China turned a corner, so there is light at the end of the tunnel. The truth is the opposite. There are zero guarantees next season won't start and be voided. Although the chances aren't accurate atm it's clear some can catch the virus more than once.
I just dont like the idea of people undermining this season on morality grounds when there have been countless situations where thousands have perished in wars etc and no one bats an eye lid.
It's better to keep football as football, an escape. There's no shame in people having optimism, and at the other end of the spectrum have concerns but we have to accept compromise's must be made. If we void next season then football as we know it will die in my opinion.
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 9 minutes ago
I have no idea why people keep saying there has to be a cut off point when we have no idea when next season can even start.
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Its what i have said all along,for some reason people think things need to be hurried along,its bizarre
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There is no hurry as far as supporters are concerned, but the Prem pretty well exists in its present format on deals with TV Companies like Sky. No deals sorted out, then probably no Prem. This is big business now, and they won`t take kindly to a season being finished off at the expense of another one ever starting.
Get to June, and then call it a day is what I reckon will happen.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 9 minutes ago
I have no idea why people keep saying there has to be a cut off point when we have no idea when next season can even start.
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Its what i have said all along,for some reason people think things need to be hurried along,its bizarre
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There is no hurry as far as supporters are concerned, but the Prem pretty well exists in its present format on deals with TV Companies like Sky. No deals sorted out, then probably no Prem. This is big business now, and they won`t take kindly to a season being finished off at the expense of another one ever starting.
Get to June, and then call it a day is what I reckon will happen.
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Again you have ignored the point though. What would the tv companies prefer?
A. Void this season in June, then reach October/November with next season not starting and not then being able to start because of a lack of time sk the lose 1 and a quarter seasons.
B. Keep this season on hold and if we reach December before matches can be played then we still have the option of finishing this season and having some football.
The deals for this season need to be completed first.
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posted on 1/4/20
But there are consequences due to it. Could be the difference between relegation and european qualification for a number of clubs. Which is why I question the idea that it’s fair and without compromise, it clearly isn’t.
posted on 1/4/20
Billy the yidd just pm'ed me and he says he is happy to accept Liverpool are the best team in the land and he would consider them champs in his mind regardless of what happens.
posted on 1/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
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Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
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Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
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This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
posted on 2/4/20
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
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Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
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Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
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This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
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None of the possible solutions to this situation are fair.
posted on 2/4/20
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
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Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
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Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
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This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
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posted on 2/4/20
Wimbledon is gone too!
posted on 2/4/20
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 7 hours, 22 minutes ago
Fact is that for as long as there is a solution, and as long as the limited staff involved have been quarantined for a safe period, there is nothing to stop games behind closed doors.
The financial implications are massive and as much as people hate to admit it, that will also be a factor.
It's not like thousands will be allowed to die from football if/when it goes ahead but I accept this situation puts football in perspective.
Sport just isnt important by comparison but that certainly doesn't undermine the achievement if Liverpool, as we expect, win the league.
They broke countless records and destroyed the league way before this crisis occurred. Anyone suggesting their achievement will be tainted from a football perspective is crazy.
Do we discount Madrid ECs when no one entered the comp? Do we discount league titles during the gulf and Afghan wars? Exactly.
This will go on for some time and I can see it taking many many months to conclude with no guarantee next season will even start. Def not before 2021 imo
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I am so afraid that you are right.
Three quarters of clubs would not survive all the way to 2021 without income. Nobody has enough reserves to cover that period, not even the PL itself.
I said yesterday that football as we know it is under a big threat.
All the football companies could be wound up next year and we start afresh. https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/420470
Makes me laugh with certified fools saying to cancel this season to prepare for the next, they assume Covid will be gone by then or what?
posted on 2/4/20
Dunno if it's already been said but clubs will lose out to the tune of £763m if they stop the season now, just in telly rights. That works out as £38m a club. Not all clubs get paid the same though so Norwich will probably lose £20-£25m while Pool will be short £49-£52m. Kit sales, match day revenues and so on will add £3-£9m. Now add in Europa an CL revenue and Pool could be another £40m down. Fecking ada.
posted on 2/4/20
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 27 minutes ago
Dunno if it's already been said but clubs will lose out to the tune of £763m if they stop the season now, just in telly rights. That works out as £38m a club. Not all clubs get paid the same though so Norwich will probably lose £20-£25m while Pool will be short £49-£52m. Kit sales, match day revenues and so on will add £3-£9m. Now add in Europa an CL revenue and Pool could be another £40m down. Fecking ada.
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How much will they lose if this season is played to a finish in the autumn meaning season 20/21 can't happen?
posted on 2/4/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 27 minutes ago
Dunno if it's already been said but clubs will lose out to the tune of £763m if they stop the season now, just in telly rights. That works out as £38m a club. Not all clubs get paid the same though so Norwich will probably lose £20-£25m while Pool will be short £49-£52m. Kit sales, match day revenues and so on will add £3-£9m. Now add in Europa an CL revenue and Pool could be another £40m down. Fecking ada.
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How much will they lose if this season is played to a finish in the autumn meaning season 20/21 can't happen?
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If that were to happen then new deals for next season can be agreed between the parties. Perhaps a shortened season if necessary.
The horse has already bolted for this season though.
posted on 2/4/20
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 39 minutes ago
Dunno if it's already been said but clubs will lose out to the tune of £763m if they stop the season now, just in telly rights. That works out as £38m a club. Not all clubs get paid the same though so Norwich will probably lose £20-£25m while Pool will be short £49-£52m. Kit sales, match day revenues and so on will add £3-£9m. Now add in Europa an CL revenue and Pool could be another £40m down. Fecking ada.
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Its been said many times now. For some reason its not getting through to most people. Just wait and see. Posters on this thread will be peddling the same sheet on the next thread as if this fact has not been pointed out to them 100 times.
posted on 2/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 39 minutes ago
Dunno if it's already been said but clubs will lose out to the tune of £763m if they stop the season now, just in telly rights. That works out as £38m a club. Not all clubs get paid the same though so Norwich will probably lose £20-£25m while Pool will be short £49-£52m. Kit sales, match day revenues and so on will add £3-£9m. Now add in Europa an CL revenue and Pool could be another £40m down. Fecking ada.
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Its been said many times now. For some reason its not getting through to most people. Just wait and see. Posters on this thread will be peddling the same sheet on the next thread as if this fact has not been pointed out to them 100 times.
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Yep. This place is very repetitive at the moment.
posted on 2/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by SB&S (U17757)
posted 39 minutes ago
Dunno if it's already been said but clubs will lose out to the tune of £763m if they stop the season now, just in telly rights. That works out as £38m a club. Not all clubs get paid the same though so Norwich will probably lose £20-£25m while Pool will be short £49-£52m. Kit sales, match day revenues and so on will add £3-£9m. Now add in Europa an CL revenue and Pool could be another £40m down. Fecking ada.
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Its been said many times now. For some reason its not getting through to most people. Just wait and see. Posters on this thread will be peddling the same sheet on the next thread as if this fact has not been pointed out to them 100 times.
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You can point it out a million times if folk don't agree with you they will let you know.
As I have repeatedly said whatever the financial implications are for not completing this season I don't think a whole season is getting binned off for a quarter of another.
posted on 2/4/20
Nothing new is happening. Just us, reiterating the same points over and over.
posted on 2/4/20
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 7 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
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Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
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Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
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This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
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Billy's argument is nonsensical. Every single season involves numerous games that are postponed for a few weeks (this is the reason that 4 teams have played fewer league matches). So every season teams can benefit from a postponement that allows an j injured player to recover - yet it is only an issue right now for some reason?
How far do we take this? If a player is injured and expected to he out for 10 weeks, but makes a miraculous recovery in 4, is it an unfair advantage for that team? Should that player be forced to be sidelined until his predicted recovery period occurs?
Your argument is only consistent if you accept that nearly every season has lost its integrity because of the same reason you think this season will.
posted on 2/4/20
Yeah but this is Bitter Billy we talking about here.
posted on 2/4/20
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 7 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
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Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
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Billy's argument is nonsensical. Every single season involves numerous games that are postponed for a few weeks (this is the reason that 4 teams have played fewer league matches). So every season teams can benefit from a postponement that allows an j injured player to recover - yet it is only an issue right now for some reason?
How far do we take this? If a player is injured and expected to he out for 10 weeks, but makes a miraculous recovery in 4, is it an unfair advantage for that team? Should that player be forced to be sidelined until his predicted recovery period occurs?
Your argument is only consistent if you accept that nearly every season has lost its integrity because of the same reason you think this season will.
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Jesus I`ve never read such nonsense, we know you are desperate but these comments are just complete tripe.
Which games are these fantasy postponements?
Apart from the postponement and rearrangement of games for cup ties, which everybody knows there is the potential for, and accepts, before a ball is even kicked. Comparing that to a 2 or 3 month season suspension is just desperation on your part.
There are endless other inconsistencies and variables that make it unfair also, players will become out of contract in July, clubs will be changing kit manufacturers and sponsors, squads are at different levels of fitness and will need another pre season before they can resume, etc etc etc I could be here all day.... but don`t let all that get in the way of your agenda.
posted on 2/4/20
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 7 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
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Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
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Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
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This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
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Billy's argument is nonsensical. Every single season involves numerous games that are postponed for a few weeks (this is the reason that 4 teams have played fewer league matches). So every season teams can benefit from a postponement that allows an j injured player to recover - yet it is only an issue right now for some reason?
How far do we take this? If a player is injured and expected to he out for 10 weeks, but makes a miraculous recovery in 4, is it an unfair advantage for that team? Should that player be forced to be sidelined until his predicted recovery period occurs?
Your argument is only consistent if you accept that nearly every season has lost its integrity because of the same reason you think this season will.
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Jesus I`ve never read such nonsense, we know you are desperate but these comments are just complete tripe.
Which games are these fantasy postponements?
Apart from the postponement and rearrangement of games for cup ties, which everybody knows there is the potential for, and accepts, before a ball is even kicked. Comparing that to a 2 or 3 month season suspension is just desperation on your part.
There are endless other inconsistencies and variables that make it unfair also, players will become out of contract in July, clubs will be changing kit manufacturers and sponsors, squads are at different levels of fitness and will need another pre season before they can resume, etc etc etc I could be here all day.... but don`t let all that get in the way of your agenda.
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Haha you are really struggling here.
Yes those "fantasy" postponements are due to cup ties. Arsenal were due to play Villa in February. This means that there may have been players unavailable for that match that would be available for the reschedule. This is exactly the situation which you claimed would ruin the integrity of the season (despite the fact that every team is in the same boat so it is applied fairly).
As for your other straws.
Yes players will become out of contract. Either they will get new contracts and stay, or they will leave and replacements brought in. If only there was another scenario where club squads might change midway through a season - we could call it the winter transfer window.
Clubs change kit sponsors and manufacturers - has absolutely 0 impact on the on- pitch game.
Squads at different levels of fitness - how? They are all in the same boat.
You could be here all day, and if you are here all day then you might eventually come up with a suggestion that you think through before posting.
posted on 2/4/20
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----JA606 NFL Fantasy Champion 2019----No Emotional Attachments....five long years (U11551)
posted 7 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
There really is too much desperation to finish this tainted season by some on here, this season is dead and has been for some time, it is simply meaningless in the current situation.
There will be zero kudos and achievement in anything that comes from whatever happens with the remainder of this season.
People should be focusing on public health and safety rather than a stained football season.
The authorities just need to do the right thing now, just null and void the remainder of all football this season, and restart again a fresh next season when it is safe to do so.
This is by far the safest, fairest, least detrimental and most sensible course of action.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why must it be voided and not postponed, in the grand scheme of things why is this decision so important?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because the season can no longer be totally fair and without compromise, with all the variables and inconsistencies now at work, it is impossible to complete the season 100% fairly and within accordance of the rules set out, it would always have that caveat against it and as such is worthless. It should also not be allowed to affect the 100% completion of next season.
Voiding is the fairest and most sensible option, why mess around trying to complete an already tainted and compromised season, and therefore risking compromising the next season also.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a load of hogwash as usual.
The circumstances are the same for all teams. All teams are struggling with the same issues, variables and inconsistencies. No team is getting preferential treatment from Covid19 so the league will be concluded totally fairly and without compromise.
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Yes they are, Spurs have already benefited from it, previously injured players are now going to be fit, that is an unfair advantage, the same can be said for clubs up and down the leagues. Other clubs will be at a disadvantage, previously they would have played against severely weakened teams, now they would be facing teams with their players back fit. That is not fair which ever way you cut it.
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Billy's argument is nonsensical. Every single season involves numerous games that are postponed for a few weeks (this is the reason that 4 teams have played fewer league matches). So every season teams can benefit from a postponement that allows an j injured player to recover - yet it is only an issue right now for some reason?
How far do we take this? If a player is injured and expected to he out for 10 weeks, but makes a miraculous recovery in 4, is it an unfair advantage for that team? Should that player be forced to be sidelined until his predicted recovery period occurs?
Your argument is only consistent if you accept that nearly every season has lost its integrity because of the same reason you think this season will.
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Jesus I`ve never read such nonsense, we know you are desperate but these comments are just complete tripe.
Which games are these fantasy postponements?
Apart from the postponement and rearrangement of games for cup ties, which everybody knows there is the potential for, and accepts, before a ball is even kicked. Comparing that to a 2 or 3 month season suspension is just desperation on your part.
There are endless other inconsistencies and variables that make it unfair also, players will become out of contract in July, clubs will be changing kit manufacturers and sponsors, squads are at different levels of fitness and will need another pre season before they can resume, etc etc etc I could be here all day.... but don`t let all that get in the way of your agenda.
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Haha you are really struggling here.
Yes those "fantasy" postponements are due to cup ties. Arsenal were due to play Villa in February. This means that there may have been players unavailable for that match that would be available for the reschedule. This is exactly the situation which you claimed would ruin the integrity of the season (despite the fact that every team is in the same boat so it is applied fairly).
As for your other straws.
Yes players will become out of contract. Either they will get new contracts and stay, or they will leave and replacements brought in. If only there was another scenario where club squads might change midway through a season - we could call it the winter transfer window.
Clubs change kit sponsors and manufacturers - has absolutely 0 impact on the on- pitch game.
Squads at different levels of fitness - how? They are all in the same boat.
You could be here all day, and if you are here all day then you might eventually come up with a suggestion that you think through before posting.
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Billy is not known for his thinking ability to be fair
posted on 2/4/20
I have no idea why people keep saying there has to be a cut off point when we have no idea when next season can even start.
Let's say it gets to June and we still can't start the season so we use that as a cut off point and declare it null and void, with the aim to start next season as normal in August. It gets to August and we still can't play, then October and still nothing. Then finally in December it's safe enough to resume normal life. Then what?
You can't fit a full 38 game season with all domestic comps in a 5 month span given the Euros are next summer. It would be impossible. So then you're in a situation where you can't carry on this season, nor can you start a new season.
The only sensible thing to do is wait and see what happens and then make a decision.
posted on 2/4/20
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posted on 2/4/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 4 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 7 hours, 22 minutes ago
Fact is that for as long as there is a solution, and as long as the limited staff involved have been quarantined for a safe period, there is nothing to stop games behind closed doors.
The financial implications are massive and as much as people hate to admit it, that will also be a factor.
It's not like thousands will be allowed to die from football if/when it goes ahead but I accept this situation puts football in perspective.
Sport just isnt important by comparison but that certainly doesn't undermine the achievement if Liverpool, as we expect, win the league.
They broke countless records and destroyed the league way before this crisis occurred. Anyone suggesting their achievement will be tainted from a football perspective is crazy.
Do we discount Madrid ECs when no one entered the comp? Do we discount league titles during the gulf and Afghan wars? Exactly.
This will go on for some time and I can see it taking many many months to conclude with no guarantee next season will even start. Def not before 2021 imo
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I am so afraid that you are right.
Three quarters of clubs would not survive all the way to 2021 without income. Nobody has enough reserves to cover that period, not even the PL itself.
I said yesterday that football as we know it is under a big threat.
All the football companies could be wound up next year and we start afresh. https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/420470
Makes me laugh with certified fools saying to cancel this season to prepare for the next, they assume Covid will be gone by then or what?
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Tbh I think lots of the optimism regarding next season has probably been fuelled by people thinking China turned a corner, so there is light at the end of the tunnel. The truth is the opposite. There are zero guarantees next season won't start and be voided. Although the chances aren't accurate atm it's clear some can catch the virus more than once.
I just dont like the idea of people undermining this season on morality grounds when there have been countless situations where thousands have perished in wars etc and no one bats an eye lid.
It's better to keep football as football, an escape. There's no shame in people having optimism, and at the other end of the spectrum have concerns but we have to accept compromise's must be made. If we void next season then football as we know it will die in my opinion.
posted on 2/4/20
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 9 minutes ago
I have no idea why people keep saying there has to be a cut off point when we have no idea when next season can even start.
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Its what i have said all along,for some reason people think things need to be hurried along,its bizarre
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There is no hurry as far as supporters are concerned, but the Prem pretty well exists in its present format on deals with TV Companies like Sky. No deals sorted out, then probably no Prem. This is big business now, and they won`t take kindly to a season being finished off at the expense of another one ever starting.
Get to June, and then call it a day is what I reckon will happen.
posted on 2/4/20
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 9 minutes ago
I have no idea why people keep saying there has to be a cut off point when we have no idea when next season can even start.
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Its what i have said all along,for some reason people think things need to be hurried along,its bizarre
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There is no hurry as far as supporters are concerned, but the Prem pretty well exists in its present format on deals with TV Companies like Sky. No deals sorted out, then probably no Prem. This is big business now, and they won`t take kindly to a season being finished off at the expense of another one ever starting.
Get to June, and then call it a day is what I reckon will happen.
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Again you have ignored the point though. What would the tv companies prefer?
A. Void this season in June, then reach October/November with next season not starting and not then being able to start because of a lack of time sk the lose 1 and a quarter seasons.
B. Keep this season on hold and if we reach December before matches can be played then we still have the option of finishing this season and having some football.
posted on 2/4/20
The deals for this season need to be completed first.
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