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Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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My understanding is that you could have had it in day 14 of lockdown but if you pass it to someone else on that day (without knowing you have it) that then starts another two weeks for that person.
My minimising the interaction with people that how they hope to slow it down. That's how I look at it anyway. Just stay the hell away from me!
Just reading and it said that it generally took two weeks to kill from onset. Average of five days until symptoms start to show, then eight days til pneumonia symptoms etc
Days from first symptom to death
The Wang et al. February 7 study published on JAMA found that the median time from first symptom to dyspnea was 5.0 days, to hospital admission was 7.0 days, and to ARDS was 8.0 days.[9]
Previously. the China National Health Commission reported the details of the first 17 deaths up to 24 pm 22 Jan 2020. A study of these cases found that the median days from first symptom to death were 14 (range 6-41) days, and tended to be shorter among people of 70 year old or above (11.5 [range 6-19] days) than those with ages below 70 year old (20 [range 10-41] days.[6]
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Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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My understanding is that you could have had it in day 14 of lockdown but if you pass it to someone else on that day (without knowing you have it) that then starts another two weeks for that person.
My minimising the interaction with people that how they hope to slow it down. That's how I look at it anyway. Just stay the hell away from me!
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Yes but if your in lockdown for the last two weeks (come Monday) then you shouldn’t be giving it to anyone on day 14... the last person you should have given it to should have been 2 weeks ago and assuming they aren’t a key worker then they shouldn’t be giving it to anyone either. Just confuses me lol
Living here in the north of Ireland i do feel the response and information being given by the UK government in comparison the Irish (although far from perfect) is very very poor. Although I suppose the core messages and action taken (with exception of testing) is very similar.
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Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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My understanding is that you could have had it in day 14 of lockdown but if you pass it to someone else on that day (without knowing you have it) that then starts another two weeks for that person.
My minimising the interaction with people that how they hope to slow it down. That's how I look at it anyway. Just stay the hell away from me!
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Yes but if your in lockdown for the last two weeks (come Monday) then you shouldn’t be giving it to anyone on day 14... the last person you should have given it to should have been 2 weeks ago and assuming they aren’t a key worker then they shouldn’t be giving it to anyone either. Just confuses me lol
Living here in the north of Ireland i do feel the response and information being given by the UK government in comparison the Irish (although far from perfect) is very very poor. Although I suppose the core messages and action taken (with exception of testing) is very similar.
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It's not a full lockdown here that's where it can change things I think. You could just pop for an essential shop on day 14 and infect someone without knowing then.
So many unknowns though which is why I'm pretty much keeping away from most people. A pretty big dog is handy for that when I take him for a walk!
As I mentioned earlier though. The health board where I live has only reported 133 cases so far at a rate of 19.3 per 100k people. The worst hit area in Wales has 869 cases at 147 per 100k which I believe is a higher rate than London.
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Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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My understanding is that you could have had it in day 14 of lockdown but if you pass it to someone else on that day (without knowing you have it) that then starts another two weeks for that person.
My minimising the interaction with people that how they hope to slow it down. That's how I look at it anyway. Just stay the hell away from me!
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Yes but if your in lockdown for the last two weeks (come Monday) then you shouldn’t be giving it to anyone on day 14... the last person you should have given it to should have been 2 weeks ago and assuming they aren’t a key worker then they shouldn’t be giving it to anyone either. Just confuses me lol
Living here in the north of Ireland i do feel the response and information being given by the UK government in comparison the Irish (although far from perfect) is very very poor. Although I suppose the core messages and action taken (with exception of testing) is very similar.
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Bout ye Doirebhoy.
Hope you and yours are well in London, Maiden city ...north west.lol
What is the difference between the UK and Irish respond in your view?
Thought no NHS in Dublin would hurt the south.
I am a CarrickBluenose, and good to see dup and SF at least attempt to work together during this schitshow virus.
So, all things considered, we're pretty lucky where we are. Wouldn't surprise me to see a spike though following the influx of tourists we got on the mountains and the coasts in and around Snowdonia a fortnight ago.
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Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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My understanding is that you could have had it in day 14 of lockdown but if you pass it to someone else on that day (without knowing you have it) that then starts another two weeks for that person.
My minimising the interaction with people that how they hope to slow it down. That's how I look at it anyway. Just stay the hell away from me!
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Yes but if your in lockdown for the last two weeks (come Monday) then you shouldn’t be giving it to anyone on day 14... the last person you should have given it to should have been 2 weeks ago and assuming they aren’t a key worker then they shouldn’t be giving it to anyone either. Just confuses me lol
Living here in the north of Ireland i do feel the response and information being given by the UK government in comparison the Irish (although far from perfect) is very very poor. Although I suppose the core messages and action taken (with exception of testing) is very similar.
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It's not a full lockdown here that's where it can change things I think. You could just pop for an essential shop on day 14 and infect someone without knowing then.
So many unknowns though which is why I'm pretty much keeping away from most people. A pretty big dog is handy for that when I take him for a walk!
As I mentioned earlier though. The health board where I live has only reported 133 cases so far at a rate of 19.3 per 100k people. The worst hit area in Wales has 869 cases at 147 per 100k which I believe is a higher rate than London.
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Afternoon Wales.
I saw the stats on Wales compared to NI for example, with similar population sides and wondered why it hit you guys harder?
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So, all things considered, we're pretty lucky where we are. Wouldn't surprise me to see a spike though following the influx of tourists we got on the mountains and the coasts in and around Snowdonia a fortnight ago.
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That was shocking.
Clowns here went to north coast beaches in Antrim and over to Donegal, and no doubt spread it
We should have stopped flights from China, Italy and Spain into UK and Ireland weeks ago.
Govt was too slow to act, in UK and Ireland, imo.
I'm fed up of hearing about it, The sooner it goes, The better, And we can watch United again.
What facks me off is we were a couple of weeks behind Italy and could see exactly what was happening yet decided to lock down a couple of weeks later so we could stay on the same curve as them.
If we had competent leaders we would have locked down much earlier. My main fear is given how hopeless our government is one this 'peak' is reached and cases start to decline they will start opening things up again, the virus will start spreading and we're back to square one in a couple of months.
comment by Hod idol - Jose's real tin set! (U5117)
posted 38 minutes ago
Doctors and nurses passing away in the line of duty should be honoured on a similar level to that of a soldier defending their country.
They truly are brave heroes with some going into battle without the best protection.
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Far more deserving than those that get knighted for winning a running race or a tennis match.
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Days from first symptom to death
The Wang et al. February 7 study published on JAMA found that the median time from first symptom to dyspnea was 5.0 days, to hospital admission was 7.0 days, and to ARDS was 8.0 days.[9]
Previously. the China National Health Commission reported the details of the first 17 deaths up to 24 pm 22 Jan 2020. A study of these cases found that the median days from first symptom to death were 14 (range 6-41) days, and tended to be shorter among people of 70 year old or above (11.5 [range 6-19] days) than those with ages below 70 year old (20 [range 10-41] days.[6]
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Howdy Coleman.
Not disagreeing with you....some dying in Belfast were ok a week back, got it over the weekend and died quickly, but they were old.
And symptoms may be dormant for a period too.
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posted 1 minute ago
I'm fed up of hearing about it, The sooner it goes, The better, And we can watch United again.
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Have we not suffered enough.
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What facks me off is we were a couple of weeks behind Italy and could see exactly what was happening yet decided to lock down a couple of weeks later so we could stay on the same curve as them.
If we had competent leaders we would have locked down much earlier. My main fear is given how hopeless our government is one this 'peak' is reached and cases start to decline they will start opening things up again, the virus will start spreading and we're back to square one in a couple of months.
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Seconded.
We were warned, but govt and people knew better??
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So, all things considered, we're pretty lucky where we are. Wouldn't surprise me to see a spike though following the influx of tourists we got on the mountains and the coasts in and around Snowdonia a fortnight ago.
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That was shocking.
Clowns here went to north coast beaches in Antrim and over to Donegal, and no doubt spread it
We should have stopped flights from China, Italy and Spain into UK and Ireland weeks ago.
Govt was too slow to act, in UK and Ireland, imo.
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I can only think it's easier to travel into Wales than NI. The worst hit part of Wales is, quite ironic considering the name, is the Aneurin Bevan health board which is to the south east of the country and where you'll find the Severn Bridge. Therefore, a very busy channel where commuters travel through all day and stop for services etc.
Also, the Wales v Scotland rugby match wasn't cancelled until the time that everyone had already traveled down to the game so they all crammed into the pubs instead. Also had a couple of Stereophonics gigs in Cardiff that weekend too.
I really don't understand why some people were going to the coast and the mountains that weekend though. They knew not to but it was like a bloody bank holiday here that weekend. I usually take the dog to the beach (a mile or so away) but turned back when I saw loads of cars parked and people with their ice creams clustered together. The forest was a much safer option!
Keep safe in NI and hopefully it'll get back to normal sooner rather than later.
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Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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yes but after the lockdown, ppl who have caught the virus and are asymptomatic (as many are) would have passed the virus to the ppl they live with
hence the time lag
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Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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yes but after the lockdown, ppl who have caught the virus and are asymptomatic (as many are) would have passed the virus to the ppl they live with
hence the time lag
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Then there's also the fact that viable traces of the virus could still be found in the cabin rooms of the Diamond Princess upto 17 days later.
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comment by Hod idol - Jose's real tin set! (U5117)
posted 38 minutes ago
Doctors and nurses passing away in the line of duty should be honoured on a similar level to that of a soldier defending their country.
They truly are brave heroes with some going into battle without the best protection.
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Far more deserving than those that get knighted for winning a running race or a tennis match.
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If they are not honoured then there sacrifice will have been for nothing.
They have given their lives in the process of trying to help others.
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Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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My understanding is that you could have had it in day 14 of lockdown but if you pass it to someone else on that day (without knowing you have it) that then starts another two weeks for that person.
My minimising the interaction with people that how they hope to slow it down. That's how I look at it anyway. Just stay the hell away from me!
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Yes but if your in lockdown for the last two weeks (come Monday) then you shouldn’t be giving it to anyone on day 14... the last person you should have given it to should have been 2 weeks ago and assuming they aren’t a key worker then they shouldn’t be giving it to anyone either. Just confuses me lol
Living here in the north of Ireland i do feel the response and information being given by the UK government in comparison the Irish (although far from perfect) is very very poor. Although I suppose the core messages and action taken (with exception of testing) is very similar.
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Bout ye Doirebhoy.
Hope you and yours are well in London, Maiden city ...north west.lol
What is the difference between the UK and Irish respond in your view?
Thought no NHS in Dublin would hurt the south.
I am a CarrickBluenose, and good to see dup and SF at least attempt to work together during this schitshow virus.
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Alright mate.
As I said ultimately there core messages and actions have been similar, but I work for southern company and while a wide lockdown didn’t come till last week, we have been working from home and social distancing for almost a month, schools were closed a lot sooner, and the south have been doing drive in testing for over two weeks, yet it’s still not properly operational in the UK. In terms of information, the daily updates from the CMO in the south seem to be a lot more detailed with cluster information etc....
Again while ultimately they are in very similar places right in terms of actions, if you look at how and when they came about I think the south have been more efficient. The fact that deaths per million in the south are sitting at 17 compared to 43 in the uk and the south are doing more testing per capita as well, is worrying for the UK.
I hope you are right about SF and DUP but I would be wary of how joined up their thinking really is.
Also shut up Matth what a stupid comment
My sisters close friend lost her mum on Sunday to it, and then her Dad this morning. Fckin horrible stuff. Was only allowed to see them in the last 1 hour of their life, so wasn’t even able to see her Dad after losing her mum to grieve with him and to be the one to tell him. Didn’t see him until his last hour today.
She’s 32, both parents gone in a week. They were early 60, Mum had a heart attack a few years ago but was well, and her Dad was fit as a fiddle for a 60 year old still into sports etc.
Stay safe.
The UK were way too slow to act on this.
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So, all things considered, we're pretty lucky where we are. Wouldn't surprise me to see a spike though following the influx of tourists we got on the mountains and the coasts in and around Snowdonia a fortnight ago.
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That was shocking.
Clowns here went to north coast beaches in Antrim and over to Donegal, and no doubt spread it
We should have stopped flights from China, Italy and Spain into UK and Ireland weeks ago.
Govt was too slow to act, in UK and Ireland, imo.
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I can only think it's easier to travel into Wales than NI. The worst hit part of Wales is, quite ironic considering the name, is the Aneurin Bevan health board which is to the south east of the country and where you'll find the Severn Bridge. Therefore, a very busy channel where commuters travel through all day and stop for services etc.
Also, the Wales v Scotland rugby match wasn't cancelled until the time that everyone had already traveled down to the game so they all crammed into the pubs instead. Also had a couple of Stereophonics gigs in Cardiff that weekend too.
I really don't understand why some people were going to the coast and the mountains that weekend though. They knew not to but it was like a bloody bank holiday here that weekend. I usually take the dog to the beach (a mile or so away) but turned back when I saw loads of cars parked and people with their ice creams clustered together. The forest was a much safer option!
Keep safe in NI and hopefully it'll get back to normal sooner rather than later.
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Cheers man.
Same with rugby here too as Ireland cancelled game against Italy, but 5k Italians came and partied Dublin a few weeks back ffs.
Am a Sterephonics fan, but why perform then too...Same with Cheltenham and Rangers and Liverpool playing in CL that week, with German and Spanish fans over.
Not just govt messed up here...but they are in charge.
That goes for all parts of the UK and Ireland.
Stay safe in Wales and we can talk football again soon?
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The UK were way too slow to act on this.
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2 to 4 weeks at least.
Herd immunity plan was folly, and only when Imperial College forecast 250-500k deaths did Cummings and bojo go lockdown.
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Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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My understanding is that you could have had it in day 14 of lockdown but if you pass it to someone else on that day (without knowing you have it) that then starts another two weeks for that person.
My minimising the interaction with people that how they hope to slow it down. That's how I look at it anyway. Just stay the hell away from me!
posted on 3/4/20
Just reading and it said that it generally took two weeks to kill from onset. Average of five days until symptoms start to show, then eight days til pneumonia symptoms etc
posted on 3/4/20
Days from first symptom to death
The Wang et al. February 7 study published on JAMA found that the median time from first symptom to dyspnea was 5.0 days, to hospital admission was 7.0 days, and to ARDS was 8.0 days.[9]
Previously. the China National Health Commission reported the details of the first 17 deaths up to 24 pm 22 Jan 2020. A study of these cases found that the median days from first symptom to death were 14 (range 6-41) days, and tended to be shorter among people of 70 year old or above (11.5 [range 6-19] days) than those with ages below 70 year old (20 [range 10-41] days.[6]
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Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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My understanding is that you could have had it in day 14 of lockdown but if you pass it to someone else on that day (without knowing you have it) that then starts another two weeks for that person.
My minimising the interaction with people that how they hope to slow it down. That's how I look at it anyway. Just stay the hell away from me!
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Yes but if your in lockdown for the last two weeks (come Monday) then you shouldn’t be giving it to anyone on day 14... the last person you should have given it to should have been 2 weeks ago and assuming they aren’t a key worker then they shouldn’t be giving it to anyone either. Just confuses me lol
Living here in the north of Ireland i do feel the response and information being given by the UK government in comparison the Irish (although far from perfect) is very very poor. Although I suppose the core messages and action taken (with exception of testing) is very similar.
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posted 4 minutes ago
Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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My understanding is that you could have had it in day 14 of lockdown but if you pass it to someone else on that day (without knowing you have it) that then starts another two weeks for that person.
My minimising the interaction with people that how they hope to slow it down. That's how I look at it anyway. Just stay the hell away from me!
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Yes but if your in lockdown for the last two weeks (come Monday) then you shouldn’t be giving it to anyone on day 14... the last person you should have given it to should have been 2 weeks ago and assuming they aren’t a key worker then they shouldn’t be giving it to anyone either. Just confuses me lol
Living here in the north of Ireland i do feel the response and information being given by the UK government in comparison the Irish (although far from perfect) is very very poor. Although I suppose the core messages and action taken (with exception of testing) is very similar.
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It's not a full lockdown here that's where it can change things I think. You could just pop for an essential shop on day 14 and infect someone without knowing then.
So many unknowns though which is why I'm pretty much keeping away from most people. A pretty big dog is handy for that when I take him for a walk!
As I mentioned earlier though. The health board where I live has only reported 133 cases so far at a rate of 19.3 per 100k people. The worst hit area in Wales has 869 cases at 147 per 100k which I believe is a higher rate than London.
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posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
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Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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My understanding is that you could have had it in day 14 of lockdown but if you pass it to someone else on that day (without knowing you have it) that then starts another two weeks for that person.
My minimising the interaction with people that how they hope to slow it down. That's how I look at it anyway. Just stay the hell away from me!
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Yes but if your in lockdown for the last two weeks (come Monday) then you shouldn’t be giving it to anyone on day 14... the last person you should have given it to should have been 2 weeks ago and assuming they aren’t a key worker then they shouldn’t be giving it to anyone either. Just confuses me lol
Living here in the north of Ireland i do feel the response and information being given by the UK government in comparison the Irish (although far from perfect) is very very poor. Although I suppose the core messages and action taken (with exception of testing) is very similar.
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Bout ye Doirebhoy.
Hope you and yours are well in London, Maiden city ...north west.lol
What is the difference between the UK and Irish respond in your view?
Thought no NHS in Dublin would hurt the south.
I am a CarrickBluenose, and good to see dup and SF at least attempt to work together during this schitshow virus.
posted on 3/4/20
So, all things considered, we're pretty lucky where we are. Wouldn't surprise me to see a spike though following the influx of tourists we got on the mountains and the coasts in and around Snowdonia a fortnight ago.
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posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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My understanding is that you could have had it in day 14 of lockdown but if you pass it to someone else on that day (without knowing you have it) that then starts another two weeks for that person.
My minimising the interaction with people that how they hope to slow it down. That's how I look at it anyway. Just stay the hell away from me!
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Yes but if your in lockdown for the last two weeks (come Monday) then you shouldn’t be giving it to anyone on day 14... the last person you should have given it to should have been 2 weeks ago and assuming they aren’t a key worker then they shouldn’t be giving it to anyone either. Just confuses me lol
Living here in the north of Ireland i do feel the response and information being given by the UK government in comparison the Irish (although far from perfect) is very very poor. Although I suppose the core messages and action taken (with exception of testing) is very similar.
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It's not a full lockdown here that's where it can change things I think. You could just pop for an essential shop on day 14 and infect someone without knowing then.
So many unknowns though which is why I'm pretty much keeping away from most people. A pretty big dog is handy for that when I take him for a walk!
As I mentioned earlier though. The health board where I live has only reported 133 cases so far at a rate of 19.3 per 100k people. The worst hit area in Wales has 869 cases at 147 per 100k which I believe is a higher rate than London.
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Afternoon Wales.
I saw the stats on Wales compared to NI for example, with similar population sides and wondered why it hit you guys harder?
posted on 3/4/20
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
So, all things considered, we're pretty lucky where we are. Wouldn't surprise me to see a spike though following the influx of tourists we got on the mountains and the coasts in and around Snowdonia a fortnight ago.
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That was shocking.
Clowns here went to north coast beaches in Antrim and over to Donegal, and no doubt spread it
We should have stopped flights from China, Italy and Spain into UK and Ireland weeks ago.
Govt was too slow to act, in UK and Ireland, imo.
posted on 3/4/20
I'm fed up of hearing about it, The sooner it goes, The better, And we can watch United again.
posted on 3/4/20
What facks me off is we were a couple of weeks behind Italy and could see exactly what was happening yet decided to lock down a couple of weeks later so we could stay on the same curve as them.
If we had competent leaders we would have locked down much earlier. My main fear is given how hopeless our government is one this 'peak' is reached and cases start to decline they will start opening things up again, the virus will start spreading and we're back to square one in a couple of months.
posted on 3/4/20
comment by Hod idol - Jose's real tin set! (U5117)
posted 38 minutes ago
Doctors and nurses passing away in the line of duty should be honoured on a similar level to that of a soldier defending their country.
They truly are brave heroes with some going into battle without the best protection.
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Far more deserving than those that get knighted for winning a running race or a tennis match.
posted on 3/4/20
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 14 minutes ago
Days from first symptom to death
The Wang et al. February 7 study published on JAMA found that the median time from first symptom to dyspnea was 5.0 days, to hospital admission was 7.0 days, and to ARDS was 8.0 days.[9]
Previously. the China National Health Commission reported the details of the first 17 deaths up to 24 pm 22 Jan 2020. A study of these cases found that the median days from first symptom to death were 14 (range 6-41) days, and tended to be shorter among people of 70 year old or above (11.5 [range 6-19] days) than those with ages below 70 year old (20 [range 10-41] days.[6]
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Howdy Coleman.
Not disagreeing with you....some dying in Belfast were ok a week back, got it over the weekend and died quickly, but they were old.
And symptoms may be dormant for a period too.
posted on 3/4/20
comment by Matth_2015 (U20438)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm fed up of hearing about it, The sooner it goes, The better, And we can watch United again.
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Have we not suffered enough.
posted on 3/4/20
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 2 minutes ago
What facks me off is we were a couple of weeks behind Italy and could see exactly what was happening yet decided to lock down a couple of weeks later so we could stay on the same curve as them.
If we had competent leaders we would have locked down much earlier. My main fear is given how hopeless our government is one this 'peak' is reached and cases start to decline they will start opening things up again, the virus will start spreading and we're back to square one in a couple of months.
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Seconded.
We were warned, but govt and people knew better??
posted on 3/4/20
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
So, all things considered, we're pretty lucky where we are. Wouldn't surprise me to see a spike though following the influx of tourists we got on the mountains and the coasts in and around Snowdonia a fortnight ago.
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That was shocking.
Clowns here went to north coast beaches in Antrim and over to Donegal, and no doubt spread it
We should have stopped flights from China, Italy and Spain into UK and Ireland weeks ago.
Govt was too slow to act, in UK and Ireland, imo.
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I can only think it's easier to travel into Wales than NI. The worst hit part of Wales is, quite ironic considering the name, is the Aneurin Bevan health board which is to the south east of the country and where you'll find the Severn Bridge. Therefore, a very busy channel where commuters travel through all day and stop for services etc.
Also, the Wales v Scotland rugby match wasn't cancelled until the time that everyone had already traveled down to the game so they all crammed into the pubs instead. Also had a couple of Stereophonics gigs in Cardiff that weekend too.
I really don't understand why some people were going to the coast and the mountains that weekend though. They knew not to but it was like a bloody bank holiday here that weekend. I usually take the dog to the beach (a mile or so away) but turned back when I saw loads of cars parked and people with their ice creams clustered together. The forest was a much safer option!
Keep safe in NI and hopefully it'll get back to normal sooner rather than later.
posted on 3/4/20
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posted 49 seconds ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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yes but after the lockdown, ppl who have caught the virus and are asymptomatic (as many are) would have passed the virus to the ppl they live with
hence the time lag
posted on 3/4/20
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Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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yes but after the lockdown, ppl who have caught the virus and are asymptomatic (as many are) would have passed the virus to the ppl they live with
hence the time lag
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Then there's also the fact that viable traces of the virus could still be found in the cabin rooms of the Diamond Princess upto 17 days later.
posted on 3/4/20
comment by Shaun M - All sick aren't we! (U9955)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Hod idol - Jose's real tin set! (U5117)
posted 38 minutes ago
Doctors and nurses passing away in the line of duty should be honoured on a similar level to that of a soldier defending their country.
They truly are brave heroes with some going into battle without the best protection.
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Far more deserving than those that get knighted for winning a running race or a tennis match.
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If they are not honoured then there sacrifice will have been for nothing.
They have given their lives in the process of trying to help others.
posted on 3/4/20
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Mrs DC has been coughing for the best part of a week.
We didn't think it was Covid-19 as she was displaying none of the other symptoms but she spoke with a doctor yesterday to make sure and it was a chest infection. The point is that even if you don't have Covid-19 you could be really worried if you display similar symptoms which any other year you could brush off.
It will get worse before it gets better but I'm wondering if these deaths now are related to things like Cheltenham going ahead, the Wales v Scotland rugby match being cancelled last minute (and subsequently thousands of people crammed into bars as they were already there), pop concerts still going on, people going to the coast and mountains etc because it was sunny and so on.
Hopefully in another two weeks we'll see the 'curve' going the opposite way.
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I imagine we will. The curve appears to be flattening in terms of number of cases, so you would expect the same to happen with number of deaths a couple of weeks later.
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This is the part I don’t understand. We were told the incubation period was two weeks, on Monday it will be two weeks since lockdown, so surely the next couple of days should see the high numbers and (in theory) it should start to fall from Monday. While obviously it will still spread as certain sectors are still working and a minority of the public aren’t following the guidelines, but in the main should we not see a reducing from Monday or so....yet we keep being told two weeks, it’s seems like every week we are still two weeks away. I know I am being very simplistic and there’s probably a reason for it, but I just don’t get it.
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My understanding is that you could have had it in day 14 of lockdown but if you pass it to someone else on that day (without knowing you have it) that then starts another two weeks for that person.
My minimising the interaction with people that how they hope to slow it down. That's how I look at it anyway. Just stay the hell away from me!
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Yes but if your in lockdown for the last two weeks (come Monday) then you shouldn’t be giving it to anyone on day 14... the last person you should have given it to should have been 2 weeks ago and assuming they aren’t a key worker then they shouldn’t be giving it to anyone either. Just confuses me lol
Living here in the north of Ireland i do feel the response and information being given by the UK government in comparison the Irish (although far from perfect) is very very poor. Although I suppose the core messages and action taken (with exception of testing) is very similar.
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Bout ye Doirebhoy.
Hope you and yours are well in London, Maiden city ...north west.lol
What is the difference between the UK and Irish respond in your view?
Thought no NHS in Dublin would hurt the south.
I am a CarrickBluenose, and good to see dup and SF at least attempt to work together during this schitshow virus.
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Alright mate.
As I said ultimately there core messages and actions have been similar, but I work for southern company and while a wide lockdown didn’t come till last week, we have been working from home and social distancing for almost a month, schools were closed a lot sooner, and the south have been doing drive in testing for over two weeks, yet it’s still not properly operational in the UK. In terms of information, the daily updates from the CMO in the south seem to be a lot more detailed with cluster information etc....
Again while ultimately they are in very similar places right in terms of actions, if you look at how and when they came about I think the south have been more efficient. The fact that deaths per million in the south are sitting at 17 compared to 43 in the uk and the south are doing more testing per capita as well, is worrying for the UK.
I hope you are right about SF and DUP but I would be wary of how joined up their thinking really is.
posted on 3/4/20
Also shut up Matth what a stupid comment
posted on 3/4/20
My sisters close friend lost her mum on Sunday to it, and then her Dad this morning. Fckin horrible stuff. Was only allowed to see them in the last 1 hour of their life, so wasn’t even able to see her Dad after losing her mum to grieve with him and to be the one to tell him. Didn’t see him until his last hour today.
She’s 32, both parents gone in a week. They were early 60, Mum had a heart attack a few years ago but was well, and her Dad was fit as a fiddle for a 60 year old still into sports etc.
Stay safe.
posted on 3/4/20
The UK were way too slow to act on this.
posted on 3/4/20
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
So, all things considered, we're pretty lucky where we are. Wouldn't surprise me to see a spike though following the influx of tourists we got on the mountains and the coasts in and around Snowdonia a fortnight ago.
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That was shocking.
Clowns here went to north coast beaches in Antrim and over to Donegal, and no doubt spread it
We should have stopped flights from China, Italy and Spain into UK and Ireland weeks ago.
Govt was too slow to act, in UK and Ireland, imo.
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I can only think it's easier to travel into Wales than NI. The worst hit part of Wales is, quite ironic considering the name, is the Aneurin Bevan health board which is to the south east of the country and where you'll find the Severn Bridge. Therefore, a very busy channel where commuters travel through all day and stop for services etc.
Also, the Wales v Scotland rugby match wasn't cancelled until the time that everyone had already traveled down to the game so they all crammed into the pubs instead. Also had a couple of Stereophonics gigs in Cardiff that weekend too.
I really don't understand why some people were going to the coast and the mountains that weekend though. They knew not to but it was like a bloody bank holiday here that weekend. I usually take the dog to the beach (a mile or so away) but turned back when I saw loads of cars parked and people with their ice creams clustered together. The forest was a much safer option!
Keep safe in NI and hopefully it'll get back to normal sooner rather than later.
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Cheers man.
Same with rugby here too as Ireland cancelled game against Italy, but 5k Italians came and partied Dublin a few weeks back ffs.
Am a Sterephonics fan, but why perform then too...Same with Cheltenham and Rangers and Liverpool playing in CL that week, with German and Spanish fans over.
Not just govt messed up here...but they are in charge.
That goes for all parts of the UK and Ireland.
Stay safe in Wales and we can talk football again soon?
posted on 3/4/20
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 18 seconds ago
The UK were way too slow to act on this.
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2 to 4 weeks at least.
Herd immunity plan was folly, and only when Imperial College forecast 250-500k deaths did Cummings and bojo go lockdown.
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