comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 27 seconds ago
The increase in the normal rate of death for this country over the last 8-10 weeks is barely a blip.It's actually less than the last bad flu season of 2015.

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Not sure on the 2015 total, but a 'flu season' is typically from late Autumn to early spring. The UK has recorded nearly 5,00 deaths from Covid in a month.
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2015 flu season claimed 44,000 lives attributed to the flu,they reckon that more lives would have been lost as most often pnuemonia is often cited as cause of death to flu.This covid19 all deaths are attributed to this coronvirus strain and not down to secondary reasons of deaths,so the cause of death is skewed towards covid than flu
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Oh dear, not this again. During regular flu season ICUs don't collapse with blanket rules on the age of people who are worth treating brought in. This has already happened in Italy and Spain and appears to be happening in the UK despite the fact we're not at our initial peek yet.
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And if you want to be anecdotal, our PM is in an ICU. Which I've never seen with a seasonal flu.
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Not seen a whole Country shut down to seasonal flu even when 44,000 people recorded(many not recorded)deaths in a single Winter
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Yeah this is because covid is five to ten times more deadly. Is more infectious and has a higher incidence of complication requiring medical attention. It's a shiitsandwich for any government to handle. My brother in law just spent half a million quid on roughly 15 ventilators for his hospital. And those who are hooked up don't even have a 50/50 chance. It's grim.
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It is grim and I like many on here have got family with health problems both young and old that could be susceptible to it.

I was merely pointing out having read through 200 comments plus on here,that arguing about locking down the country a week or 2 earlier may be small potatoes to what happens in the future.

Also who is to say that the government got it wrong,we will never know the implications if the lockdown happened earlier.Every nation has different cultures and as many on here have pointed out,many a nobbhead has broken the lockdown already.Imagine if we were entering week 5 rather than week 3 with improving weather,it doesn'r bare thinking about.

comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 5 seconds ago
There's an awful amount of people looking at this crisis in the short term,which in some ways is understandable.

What is happening now,the timing of the lockdown,the daily death tolls,the stresses on the NHS etc will in probability be an afterthought in years to come.

The long term effects of this virus will kill more people than the 5,000 or so poor lost souls that it's already claimed.

The increase in the normal rate of death for this country over the last 8-10 weeks is barely a blip.It's actually less than the last bad flu season of 2015.

This pandemic could go down in history as the biggest cause of deaths in modern times,but I would imagine a vast majority of those deaths will be due to the social and financial impacts that will happen in the years to come.


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Now imagine if we simply half-arsed our response and let the virus run rampant.

First thing to grind to a halt would be our healthcare infrastructure. We wouldn't even have a peak situation to speak of. Just an exponentially rising death tally. Made worse by medical staff turning every non-Covid case away.

The rest of the population that stayed alive would then have to deal with being out of commission for 3-4 weeks at a time. Only to fall sick again as soon as they felt good enough to walk out the door. Progressively damaging their organs with every subsequent infection.

How long would the country be able to keep the lights on? How long before the military or the police ran out of men and ground to a halt? How long before no one is able to stay fit long enough to farm, man our power generation and water supply infrastructure or even collect the rubbish?

etc, etc
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Where have I said just let the virus run rampant!!!!

Don't attribute me to saying things that I haven't.I have just said that looking at things short term and arguing about putting a lock down a week earlier is neither here nor there.

Long term will be where the biggest effects of this virus will be felt.
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I'm not accusing you of anything, mate.

Just playing out a worst-case scenario based on what we know now.

comment by Poolmyfinger (U12438)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 minutes ago
too damned bad whats happened to Boris won't happen to Trump.
On the other hand, since Trump won't wear a mask over his big mouth,.....maybe it will
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Wishing ill against my President all because he probably hurt your feelings at some point

If it was Corbyn or Obama or someone on the left side of the political spectrum, you wouldn't see me praising or wishing ill on someone.

Get lost troll and shame on you.
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you should follow Trump's example.......
don't wear a mask...
shake hands with everyone...
and don't bother with the 2 meter distance rule...
and have a nice day!

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Why don't you do something productive like screaming at the sky?

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comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 minutes ago
too damned bad whats happened to Boris won't happen to Trump.
On the other hand, since Trump won't wear a mask over his big mouth,.....maybe it will

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Fack off Ted. Pathetic thing to say

Pop out for a few hours and all hell breaks loose. Gave up trying to read this thread in the end.

Good luck Boris, not a Tory fan but hope he pulls through, he and his government made a complete shambles of this though they certainly are not alone as half the world dropped a bollok as well.

Have to say thought that he appears to be the sort that would really struggle with this

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 minutes ago
too damned bad whats happened to Boris won't happen to Trump.
On the other hand, since Trump won't wear a mask over his big mouth,.....maybe it will

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Fack off Ted. Pathetic thing to say
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You are Not living under Trump day-to-day .....
so you just don't know how bad the guy is, do you?
But wait ........
if he gets a second term...you will find out just how bad Trump is .....
because then his reach will cross the Atlantic...
and you will rue the day you thought I was being unkind!
Yup Trump and Bolsanaro ... the Adoph Hitlers of the 21st century..

You are absolute scuum ted

I gotta admit this thread certainly relieved the boredom

Don't want to say I told you so , but I told you so

https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/419794

comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 11 minutes ago
Don't want to say I told you so , but I told you so

https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/419794
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That horse has bolted Eddie, besides it’s not that easy, people would STILL need to get to the shops, the chemists and to seek medical help and people would STILL find a way to abuse what ever restrictions we have in place.

I hope Boris recovers, not because he is the PM, but because he is a father, a father to be, a brother and a son.

Really frightening and unprecedented times.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 11 minutes ago
Don't want to say I told you so , but I told you so

https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/419794
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That horse has bolted Eddie, besides it’s not that easy, people would STILL need to get to the shops, the chemists and to seek medical help and people would STILL find a way to abuse what ever restrictions we have in place.

I hope Boris recovers, not because he is the PM, but because he is a father, a father to be, a brother and a son.
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comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 minutes ago
too damned bad whats happened to Boris won't happen to Trump.
On the other hand, since Trump won't wear a mask over his big mouth,.....maybe it will

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Fack off Ted. Pathetic thing to say
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You are Not living under Trump day-to-day .....
so you just don't know how bad the guy is, do you?
But wait ........
if he gets a second term...you will find out just how bad Trump is .....
because then his reach will cross the Atlantic...
and you will rue the day you thought I was being unkind!
Yup Trump and Bolsanaro ... the Adoph Hitlers of the 21st century..
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There it is - Godwin's law

comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 minutes ago
too damned bad whats happened to Boris won't happen to Trump.
On the other hand, since Trump won't wear a mask over his big mouth,.....maybe it will

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Fack off Ted. Pathetic thing to say
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You are Not living under Trump day-to-day .....
so you just don't know how bad the guy is, do you?
But wait ........
if he gets a second term...you will find out just how bad Trump is .....
because then his reach will cross the Atlantic...
and you will rue the day you thought I was being unkind!
Yup Trump and Bolsanaro ... the Adoph Hitlers of the 21st century..
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There it is - Godwin's law
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comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 5 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 minutes ago
too damned bad whats happened to Boris won't happen to Trump.
On the other hand, since Trump won't wear a mask over his big mouth,.....maybe it will

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Fack off Ted. Pathetic thing to say
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You are Not living under Trump day-to-day .....
so you just don't know how bad the guy is, do you?
But wait ........
if he gets a second term...you will find out just how bad Trump is .....
because then his reach will cross the Atlantic...
and you will rue the day you thought I was being unkind!
Yup Trump and Bolsanaro ... the Adoph Hitlers of the 21st century..
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If Trump’s appalling handling of the Coronavirus pandemic is not his downfall, then nothing will be. He just needs to stay the f*ck away from OUR country, we have more than enough problems without having to deal with that dangerous imbecile.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 5 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 minutes ago
too damned bad whats happened to Boris won't happen to Trump.
On the other hand, since Trump won't wear a mask over his big mouth,.....maybe it will

——————

Fack off Ted. Pathetic thing to say
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You are Not living under Trump day-to-day .....
so you just don't know how bad the guy is, do you?
But wait ........
if he gets a second term...you will find out just how bad Trump is .....
because then his reach will cross the Atlantic...
and you will rue the day you thought I was being unkind!
Yup Trump and Bolsanaro ... the Adoph Hitlers of the 21st century..
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If Trump’s appalling handling of the Coronavirus pandemic is not his downfall, then nothing will be. He just needs to stay the f*ck away from OUR country, we have more than enough problems without having to deal with that dangerous imbecile.
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Someone who understands

comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 minutes ago
too damned bad whats happened to Boris won't happen to Trump.
On the other hand, since Trump won't wear a mask over his big mouth,.....maybe it will

——————

Fack off Ted. Pathetic thing to say
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You are Not living under Trump day-to-day .....
so you just don't know how bad the guy is, do you?
But wait ........
if he gets a second term...you will find out just how bad Trump is .....
because then his reach will cross the Atlantic...
and you will rue the day you thought I was being unkind!
Yup Trump and Bolsanaro ... the Adoph Hitlers of the 21st century..
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There it is - Godwin's law
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An analysis of the threads on JA606 that are longer than 25 posts show that Godwins law applies to
0.000125%.
Some Law!!

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 minutes ago
too damned bad whats happened to Boris won't happen to Trump.
On the other hand, since Trump won't wear a mask over his big mouth,.....maybe it will

——————

Fack off Ted. Pathetic thing to say
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You are Not living under Trump day-to-day .....
so you just don't know how bad the guy is, do you?
But wait ........
if he gets a second term...you will find out just how bad Trump is .....
because then his reach will cross the Atlantic...
and you will rue the day you thought I was being unkind!
Yup Trump and Bolsanaro ... the Adoph Hitlers of the 21st century..
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There it is - Godwin's law
----------------------------------------------------------------------
An analysis of the threads on JA606 that are longer than 25 posts show that Godwins law applies to
0.000125%.
Some Law!!
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Well for starters, that's not what that law says at all.

"if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Adolf Hitler or his deeds"

comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 minutes ago
too damned bad whats happened to Boris won't happen to Trump.
On the other hand, since Trump won't wear a mask over his big mouth,.....maybe it will

——————

Fack off Ted. Pathetic thing to say
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You are Not living under Trump day-to-day .....
so you just don't know how bad the guy is, do you?
But wait ........
if he gets a second term...you will find out just how bad Trump is .....
because then his reach will cross the Atlantic...
and you will rue the day you thought I was being unkind!
Yup Trump and Bolsanaro ... the Adoph Hitlers of the 21st century..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There it is - Godwin's law
----------------------------------------------------------------------
An analysis of the threads on JA606 that are longer than 25 posts show that Godwins law applies to
0.000125%.
Some Law!!
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Well for starters, that's not what that law says at all.

"if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Adolf Hitler or his deeds"
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So it really says nothing.
How about this....
"If an on-line discussion goes on long enough the world will end."
You can call that "Ted's Law"! <OK>

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-pm-is-extremely-sick-and-may-need-a-ventilator-medical-expert-says-11969669

The Prime Minister is extremely sick and may need a ventilator.

comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 6 minutes ago
too damned bad whats happened to Boris won't happen to Trump.
On the other hand, since Trump won't wear a mask over his big mouth,.....maybe it will

——————

Fack off Ted. Pathetic thing to say
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You are Not living under Trump day-to-day .....
so you just don't know how bad the guy is, do you?
But wait ........
if he gets a second term...you will find out just how bad Trump is .....
because then his reach will cross the Atlantic...
and you will rue the day you thought I was being unkind!
Yup Trump and Bolsanaro ... the Adoph Hitlers of the 21st century..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There it is - Godwin's law
----------------------------------------------------------------------
An analysis of the threads on JA606 that are longer than 25 posts show that Godwins law applies to
0.000125%.
Some Law!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well for starters, that's not what that law says at all.

"if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Adolf Hitler or his deeds"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it really says nothing.
How about this....
"If an on-line discussion goes on long enough the world will end."
You can call that "Ted's Law"! <OK>
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I'll call it Thick's Law

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-pm-is-extremely-sick-and-may-need-a-ventilator-medical-expert-says-11969669

The Prime Minister is extremely sick and may need a ventilator.
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Not to be offensive but what happens if he dies ? Most of the UK is not working at the moment , is there a shutdown period like if the queen were to die ?

comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-pm-is-extremely-sick-and-may-need-a-ventilator-medical-expert-says-11969669

The Prime Minister is extremely sick and may need a ventilator.
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Not to be offensive but what happens if he dies ? Most of the UK is not working at the moment , is there a shutdown period like if the queen were to die ?
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Raab will probably replace him as PM