Let me get this right!
You “have a mate who knows someone that works in the ICU at St Thomas hospital. Despite what the official line is, they reckon Boris is on a ventilator and has been since Thursday”
Didn’t Boris go into Hospital on Sunday?
comment by RED666👺. (U6562)
posted 7 minutes ago
Let me get this right!
You “have a mate who knows someone that works in the ICU at St Thomas hospital. Despite what the official line is, they reckon Boris is on a ventilator and has been since Thursday”
Didn’t Boris go into Hospital on Sunday?
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Yes he did,but why spoil a good story
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 28 minutes ago
Anti semitism has always been used by many Tories as a deflection technique. If these people were genuine they’d hold their own members up to the same standard regarding bigotry, but they don’t.
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I notice the comments Milliband & family has started getting from members of the right now he is back in the cabinet. Fingers crossed he doesn’t eat another bacon sandwich.
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Can’t say I’m surprised. The issues with anti semitism in the Labour party go back a long way. It was hardly mentioned by them before Corbyn became leader.
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comment by RED666👺. (U6562)
posted 36 minutes ago
Let me get this right!
You “have a mate who knows someone that works in the ICU at St Thomas hospital. Despite what the official line is, they reckon Boris is on a ventilator and has been since Thursday”
Didn’t Boris go into Hospital on Sunday?
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They’re portable
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by RED666👺. (U6562)
posted 36 minutes ago
Let me get this right!
You “have a mate who knows someone that works in the ICU at St Thomas hospital. Despite what the official line is, they reckon Boris is on a ventilator and has been since Thursday”
Didn’t Boris go into Hospital on Sunday?
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They’re portable
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The mate of the friend who's ITK seen him whilst on the bus getting wheeled over the bridge with ventilator in tow.
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 28 minutes ago
Anti semitism has always been used by many Tories as a deflection technique. If these people were genuine they’d hold their own members up to the same standard regarding bigotry, but they don’t.
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I notice the comments Milliband & family has started getting from members of the right now he is back in the cabinet. Fingers crossed he doesn’t eat another bacon sandwich.
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Can’t say I’m surprised. The issues with anti semitism in the Labour party go back a long way. It was hardly mentioned by them before Corbyn became leader.
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‘From members of the right’
Why are you highlighting that part of your comment?
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Sergio Marquina (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
What about Baroness Warsi leaving the Tory party because of the explicit rise in anti Islam hatred then Pawl, that means the Tories are also racist going by your book? Your barometer on racism is on an MP leaving the party over it right?
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I think Mark Francois put it perfectly on the Peston show before the GE when he said if islamophobia in the Tories is a pea then anti-Semitism in the Labour party is a football.
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I think the whole of the rest of the world put it perfectly when they said, “Mark Francois is a monumental bellennd.”
I thought you may have missed my point
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Ahh ok. Nah sorry the rest of my comment was more to emphasise the point about it being used as a deflection technique. As yours does as well.
Number Labour Party members cited in anti-Semitism complaints under Corbyn: 863
Labour Party membership: 580,000
Proportion of Labour Party membership cited in complaints: 0.15%
Proportion of Conservative Party membership openly admitting that they did not want a Muslim Prime Minister: 45%
Footballs and peas
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comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by RED666👺. (U6562)
posted 36 minutes ago
Let me get this right!
You “have a mate who knows someone that works in the ICU at St Thomas hospital. Despite what the official line is, they reckon Boris is on a ventilator and has been since Thursday”
Didn’t Boris go into Hospital on Sunday?
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They’re portable
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The mate of the friend who's ITK seen him whilst on the bus getting wheeled over the bridge with ventilator in tow.
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🤣🤣🤣
Am I alone in not caring about Boris's condition? People saying 'regardless of political stance my thougehts go out to him' etc etc purely because he's PM - we don't have to be nice to everyone in this situation, it's OK to not wish him well.
The man has completely mismanaged this whole fiasco, bragged about shaking people's hands, and now has the virus - it's embarrasingly hilarious.
I'm genuinely surprised a PR-friendly image of him grinning like a moron, thumbs up and smashing through the ICU wall in a steam roller hasn't been released, such is the absolute state of him/this Govt.
There's plenty of people more deserving of sympathy in this crisis, Boris is waaaaay down on the list IMO
People saying 'regardless of political stance my thougehts go out to him' etc etc purely because he's PM - we don't have to be nice to everyone in this situation, it's OK to not wish him well.
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Or maybe because he’s a father-to-be, a son, a brother..another human
What's with the ridiculous arguments over whether or not Johnson has access to a mobile phone whilst in ICU?
He hasn't.
What he HAS got, as standard issue by protocol, is an encrypted secure line provided by the Security Services.
This should not be news to people.
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@Beeb, the other day I think you misread a post of mine and felt I'd misrepresented a point you made. FYI my intention was to point out how another poster (mancini) had misrepresented an earlier point of yours and failed to acknowledge when it was pointed out.
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 10 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 34 minutes ago
People saying 'regardless of political stance my thougehts go out to him' etc etc purely because he's PM - we don't have to be nice to everyone in this situation, it's OK to not wish him well.
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Or maybe because he’s a father-to-be, a son, a brother..another human
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👍
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So all human beings are deserving of sympathy if they've got a baby on the way/have siblings?
We don't live in Disneyland, some people are just abhorrent and don't deserve your sympathy. Would you feel sympathetic if Ian Huntley was reported as having coronavirus? After all, he is a brother, son, etc. - a fellow human being.
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 10 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 34 minutes ago
People saying 'regardless of political stance my thougehts go out to him' etc etc purely because he's PM - we don't have to be nice to everyone in this situation, it's OK to not wish him well.
——————
Or maybe because he’s a father-to-be, a son, a brother..another human
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👍
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So all human beings are deserving of sympathy if they've got a baby on the way/have siblings?
We don't live in Disneyland, some people are just abhorrent and don't deserve your sympathy. Would you feel sympathetic if Ian Huntley was reported as having coronavirus? After all, he is a brother, son, etc. - a fellow human being.
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Lol true.
You’re comparing a man convicted of murdering two 10 year-old girls with Boris Johnson? The reason you gave to not wishing Boris well is that he you think mismanaged the coronavirus situation. Mismanaging or making a mistake in your job happens to everyone, for me it wouldn’t affect whether I would feel sympathy in a time of serious illness.
I’m not sure whether to take this philosophical debate further..but hey, it’s quarantine. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t disagree that some people fall so far outside my own moral values that if they were reported to be ill or dying I would not feel sympathy. However in the last year I was privileged enough to spend time interviewing prison patients with a psychiatrist at a large UK HMP.
I had quite a harrowing moment where we were going to see a prisoner who was doing time for rape. The presenting complaint was that of depression and suicidal thoughts. I really wasn’t expecting to feel any sympathy. When we spoke to him, it was one of the most pathetic and sorrowing things I’ve seen. Another human so broken, and so distressed..honestly even when I retell this I struggle to convey the way he presented. It was so poignant. And he was so unbelievably desperate for help. I think it was impossible to not have sympathy for him. Even the prison guard who escorted us there, self-admitted ‘don’t usually care for stories like that’ felt sympathy for him. I should add in our interview he spoke multiple times about how he accepted his ‘mistakes’ in life and his punishment. He wanted to be better but his mental health was preventing that.
I guess what I’m trying to say is..don’t underestimate the ‘human’ factor of seeing someone else in severe illness. I don’t even know if the prisoner had siblings/parents/children. But when you’re face to face with another human who is desperate for help and that ill I think it surprises you that you do feel sympathy for them. For example, if you went to ICU and saw Boris on oxygen, IV lines, constant sats monitoring, and most pertinently, if sedated and ventilated (he isn’t but if he was).
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posted on 8/4/20
Let me get this right!
You “have a mate who knows someone that works in the ICU at St Thomas hospital. Despite what the official line is, they reckon Boris is on a ventilator and has been since Thursday”
Didn’t Boris go into Hospital on Sunday?
posted on 8/4/20
comment by RED666👺. (U6562)
posted 7 minutes ago
Let me get this right!
You “have a mate who knows someone that works in the ICU at St Thomas hospital. Despite what the official line is, they reckon Boris is on a ventilator and has been since Thursday”
Didn’t Boris go into Hospital on Sunday?
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Yes he did,but why spoil a good story
posted on 8/4/20
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 28 minutes ago
Anti semitism has always been used by many Tories as a deflection technique. If these people were genuine they’d hold their own members up to the same standard regarding bigotry, but they don’t.
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I notice the comments Milliband & family has started getting from members of the right now he is back in the cabinet. Fingers crossed he doesn’t eat another bacon sandwich.
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Can’t say I’m surprised. The issues with anti semitism in the Labour party go back a long way. It was hardly mentioned by them before Corbyn became leader.
posted on 8/4/20
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posted on 8/4/20
comment by RED666👺. (U6562)
posted 36 minutes ago
Let me get this right!
You “have a mate who knows someone that works in the ICU at St Thomas hospital. Despite what the official line is, they reckon Boris is on a ventilator and has been since Thursday”
Didn’t Boris go into Hospital on Sunday?
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They’re portable
posted on 8/4/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by RED666👺. (U6562)
posted 36 minutes ago
Let me get this right!
You “have a mate who knows someone that works in the ICU at St Thomas hospital. Despite what the official line is, they reckon Boris is on a ventilator and has been since Thursday”
Didn’t Boris go into Hospital on Sunday?
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They’re portable
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The mate of the friend who's ITK seen him whilst on the bus getting wheeled over the bridge with ventilator in tow.
posted on 8/4/20
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 28 minutes ago
Anti semitism has always been used by many Tories as a deflection technique. If these people were genuine they’d hold their own members up to the same standard regarding bigotry, but they don’t.
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I notice the comments Milliband & family has started getting from members of the right now he is back in the cabinet. Fingers crossed he doesn’t eat another bacon sandwich.
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Can’t say I’m surprised. The issues with anti semitism in the Labour party go back a long way. It was hardly mentioned by them before Corbyn became leader.
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‘From members of the right’
posted on 8/4/20
Why are you highlighting that part of your comment?
posted on 8/4/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Sergio Marquina (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
What about Baroness Warsi leaving the Tory party because of the explicit rise in anti Islam hatred then Pawl, that means the Tories are also racist going by your book? Your barometer on racism is on an MP leaving the party over it right?
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I think Mark Francois put it perfectly on the Peston show before the GE when he said if islamophobia in the Tories is a pea then anti-Semitism in the Labour party is a football.
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I think the whole of the rest of the world put it perfectly when they said, “Mark Francois is a monumental bellennd.”
posted on 8/4/20
I thought you may have missed my point
posted on 8/4/20
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posted on 8/4/20
Ahh ok. Nah sorry the rest of my comment was more to emphasise the point about it being used as a deflection technique. As yours does as well.
posted on 8/4/20
Number Labour Party members cited in anti-Semitism complaints under Corbyn: 863
Labour Party membership: 580,000
Proportion of Labour Party membership cited in complaints: 0.15%
Proportion of Conservative Party membership openly admitting that they did not want a Muslim Prime Minister: 45%
Footballs and peas
posted on 8/4/20
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posted on 8/4/20
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by RED666👺. (U6562)
posted 36 minutes ago
Let me get this right!
You “have a mate who knows someone that works in the ICU at St Thomas hospital. Despite what the official line is, they reckon Boris is on a ventilator and has been since Thursday”
Didn’t Boris go into Hospital on Sunday?
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They’re portable
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The mate of the friend who's ITK seen him whilst on the bus getting wheeled over the bridge with ventilator in tow.
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🤣🤣🤣
posted on 8/4/20
Am I alone in not caring about Boris's condition? People saying 'regardless of political stance my thougehts go out to him' etc etc purely because he's PM - we don't have to be nice to everyone in this situation, it's OK to not wish him well.
The man has completely mismanaged this whole fiasco, bragged about shaking people's hands, and now has the virus - it's embarrasingly hilarious.
I'm genuinely surprised a PR-friendly image of him grinning like a moron, thumbs up and smashing through the ICU wall in a steam roller hasn't been released, such is the absolute state of him/this Govt.
There's plenty of people more deserving of sympathy in this crisis, Boris is waaaaay down on the list IMO
posted on 8/4/20
People saying 'regardless of political stance my thougehts go out to him' etc etc purely because he's PM - we don't have to be nice to everyone in this situation, it's OK to not wish him well.
——————
Or maybe because he’s a father-to-be, a son, a brother..another human
posted on 8/4/20
What's with the ridiculous arguments over whether or not Johnson has access to a mobile phone whilst in ICU?
He hasn't.
What he HAS got, as standard issue by protocol, is an encrypted secure line provided by the Security Services.
This should not be news to people.
posted on 8/4/20
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posted on 8/4/20
@Beeb, the other day I think you misread a post of mine and felt I'd misrepresented a point you made. FYI my intention was to point out how another poster (mancini) had misrepresented an earlier point of yours and failed to acknowledge when it was pointed out.
posted on 9/4/20
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 10 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 34 minutes ago
People saying 'regardless of political stance my thougehts go out to him' etc etc purely because he's PM - we don't have to be nice to everyone in this situation, it's OK to not wish him well.
——————
Or maybe because he’s a father-to-be, a son, a brother..another human
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👍
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So all human beings are deserving of sympathy if they've got a baby on the way/have siblings?
We don't live in Disneyland, some people are just abhorrent and don't deserve your sympathy. Would you feel sympathetic if Ian Huntley was reported as having coronavirus? After all, he is a brother, son, etc. - a fellow human being.
posted on 9/4/20
comment by Henry Chinaski (U21800)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 10 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 34 minutes ago
People saying 'regardless of political stance my thougehts go out to him' etc etc purely because he's PM - we don't have to be nice to everyone in this situation, it's OK to not wish him well.
——————
Or maybe because he’s a father-to-be, a son, a brother..another human
----------------------------------------------------------------------
👍
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So all human beings are deserving of sympathy if they've got a baby on the way/have siblings?
We don't live in Disneyland, some people are just abhorrent and don't deserve your sympathy. Would you feel sympathetic if Ian Huntley was reported as having coronavirus? After all, he is a brother, son, etc. - a fellow human being.
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Lol true.
posted on 9/4/20
BK in big trouble here
posted on 9/4/20
You’re comparing a man convicted of murdering two 10 year-old girls with Boris Johnson? The reason you gave to not wishing Boris well is that he you think mismanaged the coronavirus situation. Mismanaging or making a mistake in your job happens to everyone, for me it wouldn’t affect whether I would feel sympathy in a time of serious illness.
I’m not sure whether to take this philosophical debate further..but hey, it’s quarantine. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t disagree that some people fall so far outside my own moral values that if they were reported to be ill or dying I would not feel sympathy. However in the last year I was privileged enough to spend time interviewing prison patients with a psychiatrist at a large UK HMP.
I had quite a harrowing moment where we were going to see a prisoner who was doing time for rape. The presenting complaint was that of depression and suicidal thoughts. I really wasn’t expecting to feel any sympathy. When we spoke to him, it was one of the most pathetic and sorrowing things I’ve seen. Another human so broken, and so distressed..honestly even when I retell this I struggle to convey the way he presented. It was so poignant. And he was so unbelievably desperate for help. I think it was impossible to not have sympathy for him. Even the prison guard who escorted us there, self-admitted ‘don’t usually care for stories like that’ felt sympathy for him. I should add in our interview he spoke multiple times about how he accepted his ‘mistakes’ in life and his punishment. He wanted to be better but his mental health was preventing that.
I guess what I’m trying to say is..don’t underestimate the ‘human’ factor of seeing someone else in severe illness. I don’t even know if the prisoner had siblings/parents/children. But when you’re face to face with another human who is desperate for help and that ill I think it surprises you that you do feel sympathy for them. For example, if you went to ICU and saw Boris on oxygen, IV lines, constant sats monitoring, and most pertinently, if sedated and ventilated (he isn’t but if he was).
posted on 9/4/20
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