Hmm maybe my memories skewed due to some of the best performances I’ve ever seen in Europe

Robertson's delivery is better than Cole's. Admittedly I didn't see much of Cole when he played for Chelsea, just going in his England games.
Brilliant in defence though

comment by Melt (U22362)
posted 10 hours, 14 minutes ago
I always find people who say attacking fullbacks “can’t defend” or at least emphasise the point so much don’t really understand the use of modern day fullbacks in a system
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If you say so man. A good player should be judged on whether he can be as effective in another team. You can hide behind the "modern fullback" tag all you want.

comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 7 hours, 55 minutes ago
And Robertson last season was immense, has been this season too. Now it is more of a debate whether he’s better than Cole in his best years, but Cole’s best years wasn’t 11/12,
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Is this serious? Robertson ain't a patch on Cole in his prime. People are getting beyond carried away.

I think they were/are both world class full backs. Robertson is good in defence but Cole at his best for Chelsea probably even better. Robertson has better delivery and productivity from LB. Both of them excellent stamina and pace.

I would go as far as to say neither had any more stand out attributes, eg. Dribbling, shooting, passing. But they both have this ability to just do everything quickly and positively, this confidence and assurance in their game that means they progress play efficiently. I don’t even know how else better to describe it. They were/are both, at their best, just always on the front foot.

Dubbed which points do you disagree with?

I disagree with the fact that you're acting like they're at around the same level. Robertson is just a good player. Nothing special imo. I don't even think he's better than Evra in his prime let alone Cole.

Do you disagree that Robertson’s delivery is better? Considering Robertson’s superior productivity and output at LB, along with his strong defensive performances, can you actually say anything with more depth or nuance to back your opinion up?

Robertson has become one of the best LBs in Europe over last 18 months. I’m not even sure who is better between him and Cole (you could add Evra too, I don’t mind) I just said it is debatable.

Prime Cole poo poos all over Robertson. Not even half the player Cole was ffs

Respect your opinion but could you, like Dubbed, expand on that at all, in any way? In my view Robertson is a good defender and has proved so in some big games, but I’ve acknowledged Cole at his best, certainly for Chelsea, was better. Imperious in defence at his best.

Going forward, Robertson is better for me. His delivery by eye test is more consistently dangerous than Cole’s was and that is backed up by his superior productivity from full back.

comment by Dubbed* (U21815)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
I disagree with the fact that you're acting like they're at around the same level. Robertson is just a good player. Nothing special imo. I don't even think he's better than Evra in his prime let alone Cole.
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What teams wouldn’t he suit? Would work in Peps city, Mourinho’s Tottenham, flicks Bayern, Valverdes Barca and Contes Inter

You don’t play at the level Robertson has the last couple of years if you’re nothing special.

comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
You don’t play at the level Robertson has the last couple of years if you’re nothing special.
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I find him a pretty uninspiring player to watch, basically Walker with a good cross. I don’t find those fullbacks who run up and down the line all days as exiting/interesting as the likes of Alaba, Marcelo hell even Rose for that year and a half he was excellent.

Yeah but there’s a difference between not being as aesthetically pleasing and being nothing special. Take Evra, he was a more silky and skilful player than Robertson but wasn’t as good a left back as what Robertson has shown the last couple of years, especially going forward - he couldn’t cross for shiiiiiit.

Yeah agreed, I just really dislike everything about Robertson despite him being really good.

In general Scottish players are complete waaaankers though.

comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)

You don’t play at the level Robertson has the last couple of years if you’re nothing special.
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What level? He's done okay but nothing to write home about.

Ask any Scottish football fan and they'll tell you Tierney is better (which he is).

Comparing Robertson to Cole, Evra, let alone Marcelo is ridiculous.

Except what he’s done is something to write home about, his season last season was amongst the most productive from a full-back the PL has ever seen. Unlike his peers when it comes to that level of assists (Baines and TAA) he doesn’t take set-pieces. He was/is a key part of a CL winning side and one of the best sides the PL has seen.

Like Wahl and Dubbed have failed to do, can you expand at all on why it is so apparently blasphemous to compare him to Evra and Cole. I’ve already discussed that I think he’s good defensively (if not as good as Cole) and that his delivery is better than both both by eye test and the numbers he puts up. What do you disagree with?

You won’t get a proper answer, Liquid’s a troll. As his last post illustrates.

comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)

Except what he’s done is something to write home about, his season last season was amongst the most productive from a full-back the PL has ever seen. Unlike his peers when it comes to that level of assists (Baines and TAA) he doesn’t take set-pieces. He was/is a key part of a CL winning side and one of the best sides the PL has seen.

Like Wahl and Dubbed have failed to do, can you expand at all on why it is so apparently blasphemous to compare him to Evra and Cole. I’ve already discussed that I think he’s good defensively (if not as good as Cole) and that his delivery is better than both both by eye test and the numbers he puts up. What do you disagree with?
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Because Cole and Evra were better players overall, with a greater pedigree.

I know Robertson won the CL but he's 26 and used to play for Dundee & Hull until a couple years ago. The kid has has never won a League title in his career as far as I'm aware.

Robertson gets a fair few assists because Liverpool's style is very direct and the fullbacks are expected to whip in lots of crosses. Wenger's Arsenal for example never let Cole whip in crosses; likewise United with Evra. They had other players to get the crosses in and played a more possession based style.

I think he's a nice little player but some recency bias is at play here imo.

Roberston vs Ashley Cole

I suppose Hendo vs Lampard is next.

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)

Roberston vs Ashley Cole

I suppose Hendo vs Lampard is next.
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IRK, or Mane vs Henry or Firmino vs Drogba.

Recency bias.

I was going to suggest Firmino vs Drogba, but you just know there would one or two tools who would actually try and argue a case for Firmino

I still haven’t heard anyone say or comment any more about what aspects Cole is so much better at than Robertson at that they apparently can’t even be compared. I get that you both think he’s a lot better, as that’s the statement you carry on repeating, but at what. Tell me. And especially tell me what Cole was better than at Robertson going forward because I’m genuinely interested to hear. Do you disagree with what I said about Robertson having better delivery and productivity?

I’ve already said that I think Cole was a better defender. I also don’t disagree that Cole and Evra has better careers overall, that’s blindingly obvious considering they’re both retired and Robertson is is 26. However, when it comes to comparing them at their best, all I said was it’s debatable. Robertson is a world class LB for one of the elite club sides in Europe, Cole and Evra were world class LBs for the elite club sides in Europe. Of course it’s debatable.

I could equally argue that you are suffering from ‘nostalgic bias’. Because to me I’m being quite objective and have given you pretty reasonable expansions on what I’ve said. And no one has back to me yet

'I could equally argue that you are suffering from ‘nostalgic bias’.'

This is exactly what it is

I’d say may recency bias is levelled out by my hatred of Liverpool.