Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
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Lets have a party then shall we?
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No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 25 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
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We’ve known about the risk since late January.
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Yes 'we've known since January'. They've known since December.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 seconds ago
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
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They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
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Lets have a party then shall we?
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No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
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How many beds are occupied in those hospitals?
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets have a party then shall we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many beds are occupied in those hospitals?
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I don’t think that info is available yet, but Excel has Ben receiving patients
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets have a party then shall we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok I'll give you that but what about the lack PPE. Nures and Doctors putting their lives in danger everyday. The half hearted lockdown. Cheltenham. BoJo playing the whole thing down LOL
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 seconds ago
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
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They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
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Which is the way EVERY country in the world is reporting deaths. Is the only way to compare statistics
There are alarming similarities between Boris and Trump supporters. Both seem brainwashed to never criticise their hero even when they make such obviously stupid decisions.
The thing is Boris/Trump's ambitions are purely to stay in power and keep growing the inequality gap. They have worked out that if you go in hard on issues like Brexit/ the fake news media there are enough people who will back them regardless.
It's a sad state of affairs.
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 seconds ago
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
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They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is the way EVERY country in the world is reporting deaths. Is the only way to compare statistics
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Not true. Belgium and France numbers also include those in care homes.
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 seconds ago
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is the way EVERY country in the world is reporting deaths. Is the only way to compare statistics
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why can Hancock release the NHS figures then the total amount of deaths after? Not hard is it unless you have blood on your hands.....
comment by Corona will save us from Pool winning the league (U10012)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 seconds ago
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is the way EVERY country in the world is reporting deaths. Is the only way to compare statistics
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not true. Belgium and France numbers also include those in care homes.
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Well not according to the BBC statistician who explained the numbers on TV yesterday’s
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
There are alarming similarities between Boris and Trump supporters. Both seem brainwashed to never criticise their hero even when they make such obviously stupid decisions.
The thing is Boris/Trump's ambitions are purely to stay in power and keep growing the inequality gap. They have worked out that if you go in hard on issues like Brexit/ the fake news media there are enough people who will back them regardless.
It's a sad state of affairs.
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Yep.
They simply refuse to see what’s staring them in the face.
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 seconds ago
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is the way EVERY country in the world is reporting deaths. Is the only way to compare statistics
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why can Hancock release the NHS figures then the total amount of deaths after? Not hard is it unless you have blood on your hands.....
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They will be released by the ONS when they are collated. The ONS releases info every 3 months
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets have a party then shall we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/coronavirus-nightingale-hospital-ventilator-covid_uk_5e9061b3c5b6319d8db64376
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets have a party then shall we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/coronavirus-nightingale-hospital-ventilator-covid_uk_5e9061b3c5b6319d8db64376
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More good news
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Corona will save us from Pool winning the league (U10012)
posted 18 minutes ago
The entire western world were poorly prepared for this pandemic and have nearly all suffered the same problems this government has. Were Italy and Spain any better prepared than us? Look at the US - they are digging mass temporary graves in New York State
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Except that the UK had a 3 weeks warning and decided to go with the herd immunity approach first.
3 weeks head start it is not negligible and a lot could have been done.
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No they went for containment and then delay. Herd immunity wasn’t an official strategy - it takes about 2 years to achieve. Pretty much everyone had a head start on Italy - who themselves had a head start on China.
Truth is 3 weeks was never enough time for countries to source the PPE kit and scale the testing accordingly - that kind of planning takes months. No one was adequately prepared - but the objective of keeping the nhs under capacity has so far been maintained. Not saying there weren’t mistakes but we certainly aren’t alone
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Genuine question - do you have any doctor/nurse friends currently working for the NHS?
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Yes - my cousin works in an NHS run hospital and has recently tested positive for Covid 19
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets have a party then shall we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/coronavirus-nightingale-hospital-ventilator-covid_uk_5e9061b3c5b6319d8db64376
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More good news
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Indeed.
We do have the 2nd highest population in western Europe and London, like New York and other similar densely populated areas, are always going to be massive hotspots.
People blaming governments for the fact every country is trying to buy masks and kits and there simply aren't enough seems to be the wrong place to place blame imo
If WHO didn't ignore Taiwan Southampton University have said they would have expected 95% less cases globally.
Combined with the fact leading experts are now saying COV-19 has HIV characteristics, which they claim proves it was man engineered, and I think it's obvious where the blame lies.
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets have a party then shall we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s also tough to say ‘with hindsight’ when Italy were so obviously two/three weeks ahead of us and quite clearly an exact example of what was about to happen to us.
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 11 seconds ago
We do have the 2nd highest population in western Europe and London, like New York and other similar densely populated areas, are always going to be massive hotspots.
People blaming governments for the fact every country is trying to buy masks and kits and there simply aren't enough seems to be the wrong place to place blame imo
If WHO didn't ignore Taiwan Southampton University have said they would have expected 95% less cases globally.
Combined with the fact leading experts are now saying COV-19 has HIV characteristics, which they claim proves it was man engineered, and I think it's obvious where the blame lies.
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Completely different to HIV which has many strains and still no vaccine after 40 years.
Not only are they not releasing none hospital admitted deaths but many are dying because there is no one to look after them because all the specialists are on the covid-19 wards.
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Corona will save us from Pool winning the league (U10012)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 seconds ago
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is the way EVERY country in the world is reporting deaths. Is the only way to compare statistics
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not true. Belgium and France numbers also include those in care homes.
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Well not according to the BBC statistician who explained the numbers on TV yesterday’s
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-france-toll/frances-coronavirus-death-toll-jumps-to-nearly-5400-as-nursing-homes-included-idUSKBN21K31I
Worth noting that all deaths when someone has Covid are being recorded as Covid deaths even if its due to an aneurysm or cancer or whatever
Let’s not forget that the WHO on January 14th publicly stated that the risk of human to human transmission for Covid 19 was low. That’s the World Health Organisation FFS.
Why did they publish that? Because China told them - despite the fact that by that point China knew full well they had a crisis on their hands
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posted on 14/4/20
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets have a party then shall we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 25 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We’ve known about the risk since late January.
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Yes 'we've known since January'. They've known since December.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 seconds ago
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets have a party then shall we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many beds are occupied in those hospitals?
posted on 14/4/20
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets have a party then shall we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many beds are occupied in those hospitals?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don’t think that info is available yet, but Excel has Ben receiving patients
posted on 14/4/20
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets have a party then shall we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok I'll give you that but what about the lack PPE. Nures and Doctors putting their lives in danger everyday. The half hearted lockdown. Cheltenham. BoJo playing the whole thing down LOL
posted on 14/4/20
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 seconds ago
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is the way EVERY country in the world is reporting deaths. Is the only way to compare statistics
posted on 14/4/20
There are alarming similarities between Boris and Trump supporters. Both seem brainwashed to never criticise their hero even when they make such obviously stupid decisions.
The thing is Boris/Trump's ambitions are purely to stay in power and keep growing the inequality gap. They have worked out that if you go in hard on issues like Brexit/ the fake news media there are enough people who will back them regardless.
It's a sad state of affairs.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 seconds ago
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is the way EVERY country in the world is reporting deaths. Is the only way to compare statistics
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not true. Belgium and France numbers also include those in care homes.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 seconds ago
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is the way EVERY country in the world is reporting deaths. Is the only way to compare statistics
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why can Hancock release the NHS figures then the total amount of deaths after? Not hard is it unless you have blood on your hands.....
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Corona will save us from Pool winning the league (U10012)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 seconds ago
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is the way EVERY country in the world is reporting deaths. Is the only way to compare statistics
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not true. Belgium and France numbers also include those in care homes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well not according to the BBC statistician who explained the numbers on TV yesterday’s
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 1 minute ago
There are alarming similarities between Boris and Trump supporters. Both seem brainwashed to never criticise their hero even when they make such obviously stupid decisions.
The thing is Boris/Trump's ambitions are purely to stay in power and keep growing the inequality gap. They have worked out that if you go in hard on issues like Brexit/ the fake news media there are enough people who will back them regardless.
It's a sad state of affairs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.
They simply refuse to see what’s staring them in the face.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 19 seconds ago
Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which is the way EVERY country in the world is reporting deaths. Is the only way to compare statistics
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So why can Hancock release the NHS figures then the total amount of deaths after? Not hard is it unless you have blood on your hands.....
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They will be released by the ONS when they are collated. The ONS releases info every 3 months
posted on 14/4/20
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets have a party then shall we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/coronavirus-nightingale-hospital-ventilator-covid_uk_5e9061b3c5b6319d8db64376
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets have a party then shall we?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/coronavirus-nightingale-hospital-ventilator-covid_uk_5e9061b3c5b6319d8db64376
----------------------------------------------------------------------
More good news
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Corona will save us from Pool winning the league (U10012)
posted 18 minutes ago
The entire western world were poorly prepared for this pandemic and have nearly all suffered the same problems this government has. Were Italy and Spain any better prepared than us? Look at the US - they are digging mass temporary graves in New York State
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Except that the UK had a 3 weeks warning and decided to go with the herd immunity approach first.
3 weeks head start it is not negligible and a lot could have been done.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No they went for containment and then delay. Herd immunity wasn’t an official strategy - it takes about 2 years to achieve. Pretty much everyone had a head start on Italy - who themselves had a head start on China.
Truth is 3 weeks was never enough time for countries to source the PPE kit and scale the testing accordingly - that kind of planning takes months. No one was adequately prepared - but the objective of keeping the nhs under capacity has so far been maintained. Not saying there weren’t mistakes but we certainly aren’t alone
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Genuine question - do you have any doctor/nurse friends currently working for the NHS?
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Yes - my cousin works in an NHS run hospital and has recently tested positive for Covid 19
posted on 14/4/20
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
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comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
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comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
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comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
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It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
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Lets have a party then shall we?
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No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
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https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/coronavirus-nightingale-hospital-ventilator-covid_uk_5e9061b3c5b6319d8db64376
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More good news
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Indeed.
posted on 14/4/20
We do have the 2nd highest population in western Europe and London, like New York and other similar densely populated areas, are always going to be massive hotspots.
People blaming governments for the fact every country is trying to buy masks and kits and there simply aren't enough seems to be the wrong place to place blame imo
If WHO didn't ignore Taiwan Southampton University have said they would have expected 95% less cases globally.
Combined with the fact leading experts are now saying COV-19 has HIV characteristics, which they claim proves it was man engineered, and I think it's obvious where the blame lies.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 5 seconds ago
It’s so easy to be wise in hindsight.
This is unprecedented in our lives, however South Korea has had experience of Bird flu and SARS and was somewhat prepared for this type of event.
I don’t believe the Chinese death numbers at all, probably 10s of thousands higher than published.
We have the 2nd highest population in Europe on a relatively small island so it’s likely we will have a higher death rate
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Lets have a party then shall we?
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No - not at all. But give some credit for mobilising and building 5 Nightingale hospitals in a few weeks which has meant the NHS is coping for the time being.
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It’s also tough to say ‘with hindsight’ when Italy were so obviously two/three weeks ahead of us and quite clearly an exact example of what was about to happen to us.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 11 seconds ago
We do have the 2nd highest population in western Europe and London, like New York and other similar densely populated areas, are always going to be massive hotspots.
People blaming governments for the fact every country is trying to buy masks and kits and there simply aren't enough seems to be the wrong place to place blame imo
If WHO didn't ignore Taiwan Southampton University have said they would have expected 95% less cases globally.
Combined with the fact leading experts are now saying COV-19 has HIV characteristics, which they claim proves it was man engineered, and I think it's obvious where the blame lies.
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Completely different to HIV which has many strains and still no vaccine after 40 years.
posted on 14/4/20
Not only are they not releasing none hospital admitted deaths but many are dying because there is no one to look after them because all the specialists are on the covid-19 wards.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
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comment by Corona will save us from Pool winning the league (U10012)
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comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
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comment by LukaBrasi Jose IN (U22178)
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comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
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Can add at least another couple of thousand to that when you add in the care home deaths.
An absolute scandal.
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They way the Terrorist I mean Tories hide the amount of total deaths is a scandal in itself. They only release figures from deaths within the NHS.
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Which is the way EVERY country in the world is reporting deaths. Is the only way to compare statistics
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Not true. Belgium and France numbers also include those in care homes.
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Well not according to the BBC statistician who explained the numbers on TV yesterday’s
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-france-toll/frances-coronavirus-death-toll-jumps-to-nearly-5400-as-nursing-homes-included-idUSKBN21K31I
posted on 14/4/20
Worth noting that all deaths when someone has Covid are being recorded as Covid deaths even if its due to an aneurysm or cancer or whatever
posted on 14/4/20
Let’s not forget that the WHO on January 14th publicly stated that the risk of human to human transmission for Covid 19 was low. That’s the World Health Organisation FFS.
Why did they publish that? Because China told them - despite the fact that by that point China knew full well they had a crisis on their hands
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