I know half of deaths here have been in nursing homes
The figures from care homes are reported once a week. The government have time and time again said they take time to collate whereas the hospital figures are quicker. What else are they supposed to do exactly?
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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I don't really know what's going on with England regarding reporting of Care Home deaths.
In Scotland the next update on community deaths (from National Records for Scotland) is published tomorrow (published weekly). The latest update was Wednesday last week where it indicated there were 354 deaths where COVID was either confirmed by test or suspected by the Doctor up until 5th April. This compared to 220 deaths recorded by Health Protection Scotland which is Hospital deaths. The excel data can be found in the link below.
Right now, the Hospital death total is 615. The data released tomorrow will show us a lot more.
There are some encouraging signs up here as the number of patients in ICU has been gradually decreasing and hospital admissions has not increased. Hopefully there is some light at the end of the tunnel.
The Scot Gov are also publishing some useful data which is broken down by health board and the number of NHS staff which are absent due to COVID-related issues. This number has also been decreasing thankfully.
https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/covid19stats
https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-tests-and-cases-in-scotland/
I should add that as far as Im aware the National Records for Scotland figure will include those recorded by Health Protection Scotland.
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posted 22 minutes ago
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
I'm sorry that I don't have a source for this, but I understand there are stats around that say that, for the increase of the number of deaths per day in the UK this year as compared to last year, only about half of those are being directly attributed to coronavirus. The other half are either unconfirmed coronavirus or likely something linked to either it or lockdown.
However, I understand this figure is approximately the same in France, Spain and Italy. i.e. We are definitely under-recording deaths right now, but so is almost everywhere comparable. (I don't know about Germany.)
One of the saddest aspects of this is the daily 'Ooo, at least we're doing better than [insert name of 'rival' country].
I find myself doing it too. Why, I really don't know.
It was obvious from the beginning that the government got it badly wrong. There had to be an earlier closure of airports, mass testing and isolating.
Too late for that now so they had to introduced the lockdown lite and when they get it down to more manageable levels, they need to do it right this time mass testing, isolating positive cases and from what reports are saying, introducing a test to tell you if you've had it already and an app to help people keep track of positive tests and whether they've been in contact with anybody, so they can then self isolate.
I believe that the government gives the numbers of deaths registered, which is faster in hospital than anywhere else
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I don't think the government are doing anything wrong this time
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comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
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Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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How have they made such a mess of it - no false new please?
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posted 14 minutes ago
I believe that the government gives the numbers of deaths registered, which is faster in hospital than anywhere else
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I don't think the government are doing anything wrong this time
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and nor are they reporting in any different way to the international community.
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posted 22 minutes ago
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
Piers Morgan is the best voice in the UK on corona, what the hell is going on.
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When does moaning become constructive criticism? Too many saying no point moaning when there are glaring mistakes being made daily.
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Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
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Yes I was actually. Living in the north of Ireland I have been in a position to compare and contrast the responses of the two local jurisdictions (Ireland and UK). And while the Irish response hasn’t been perfect, it is proving to to exponentially better than the UK response. While Boris was talking about herd immunity and bragging about shaking hands with people who were infected, other countries were closing schools, while the Irish officially didn’t go into lockdown till after the UK, we were de facto in lockdown almost two weeks before that (I work for a southern company and have been working from home for almost 5 weeks).
You say they were taking advice, but every other country was getting the same advise and very few, if any, interpreted it the same way as the UK. It has been a shambles from the start and to say anything less is blind stupidity tbh.
the PPE that nursing home assistants are given to nurse these care homes that are riddled with Covid 19 is truly pathetic.
However, despite been told this and that the government is blatantly lying about the distribution of correct PPE to these areas of social care, the (Tory voting) great British public doesn't seem to really give a toss about these people (who are heroes actually) despite the fact they seem to applaud them every thursday evening from their doorsteps, like sheep.
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comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
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Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
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Yes I was actually. Living in the north of Ireland I have been in a position to compare and contrast the responses of the two local jurisdictions (Ireland and UK). And while the Irish response hasn’t been perfect, it is proving to to exponentially better than the UK response. While Boris was talking about herd immunity and bragging about shaking hands with people who were infected, other countries were closing schools, while the Irish officially didn’t go into lockdown till after the UK, we were de facto in lockdown almost two weeks before that (I work for a southern company and have been working from home for almost 5 weeks).
You say they were taking advice, but every other country was getting the same advise and very few, if any, interpreted it the same way as the UK. It has been a shambles from the start and to say anything less is blind stupidity tbh.
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As usual Ireland
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comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
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Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
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Yes I was actually. Living in the north of Ireland I have been in a position to compare and contrast the responses of the two local jurisdictions (Ireland and UK). And while the Irish response hasn’t been perfect, it is proving to to exponentially better than the UK response. While Boris was talking about herd immunity and bragging about shaking hands with people who were infected, other countries were closing schools, while the Irish officially didn’t go into lockdown till after the UK, we were de facto in lockdown almost two weeks before that (I work for a southern company and have been working from home for almost 5 weeks).
You say they were taking advice, but every other country was getting the same advise and very few, if any, interpreted it the same way as the UK. It has been a shambles from the start and to say anything less is blind stupidity tbh.
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As usual Ireland
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I wouldn’t go that far Irishred, they’ve made mistakes too. And I think it’s sickening that they are attempting to force through a government that isn’t wanted while this is going on, but that’s a whole other argument.
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Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
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Yes I was actually. Living in the north of Ireland I have been in a position to compare and contrast the responses of the two local jurisdictions (Ireland and UK). And while the Irish response hasn’t been perfect, it is proving to to exponentially better than the UK response. While Boris was talking about herd immunity and bragging about shaking hands with people who were infected, other countries were closing schools, while the Irish officially didn’t go into lockdown till after the UK, we were de facto in lockdown almost two weeks before that (I work for a southern company and have been working from home for almost 5 weeks).
You say they were taking advice, but every other country was getting the same advise and very few, if any, interpreted it the same way as the UK. It has been a shambles from the start and to say anything less is blind stupidity tbh.
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As usual Ireland
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I wouldn’t go that far Irishred, they’ve made mistakes too. And I think it’s sickening that they are attempting to force through a government that isn’t wanted while this is going on, but that’s a whole other argument.
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Agree on the mistakes for example a 100 folk got told they tested negative only to be then told no you are actually positive
Regarding the government that isn’t wanted. Interesting point what government do you think is wanted?
I’m under no illusion as this grand coalition is to keep SF out
Incidentally I don’t vote for any major party I vote for independents.
I genuinely think we would have been back at the polls only the virus arrived
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Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
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Yes I was actually. Living in the north of Ireland I have been in a position to compare and contrast the responses of the two local jurisdictions (Ireland and UK). And while the Irish response hasn’t been perfect, it is proving to to exponentially better than the UK response. While Boris was talking about herd immunity and bragging about shaking hands with people who were infected, other countries were closing schools, while the Irish officially didn’t go into lockdown till after the UK, we were de facto in lockdown almost two weeks before that (I work for a southern company and have been working from home for almost 5 weeks).
You say they were taking advice, but every other country was getting the same advise and very few, if any, interpreted it the same way as the UK. It has been a shambles from the start and to say anything less is blind stupidity tbh.
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As usual Ireland
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I wouldn’t go that far Irishred, they’ve made mistakes too. And I think it’s sickening that they are attempting to force through a government that isn’t wanted while this is going on, but that’s a whole other argument.
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Agree on the mistakes for example a 100 folk got told they tested negative only to be then told no you are actually positive
Regarding the government that isn’t wanted. Interesting point what government do you think is wanted?
I’m under no illusion as this grand coalition is to keep SF out
Incidentally I don’t vote for any major party I vote for independents.
I genuinely think we would have been back at the polls only the virus arrived
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I am not sure what government was wanted but the elections showed that one that most definitely wasn’t wanted was the exact same one that was there before, yet that is what is happening. Your right, it would have been back to the polls but for this and that’s why I think it stinks, Leo is using the good will generated by his handling of this to hang on to a position he does not deserve (was it the 6th count or something before he was even voted into his own seat?).
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Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
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Yes I was actually. Living in the north of Ireland I have been in a position to compare and contrast the responses of the two local jurisdictions (Ireland and UK). And while the Irish response hasn’t been perfect, it is proving to to exponentially better than the UK response. While Boris was talking about herd immunity and bragging about shaking hands with people who were infected, other countries were closing schools, while the Irish officially didn’t go into lockdown till after the UK, we were de facto in lockdown almost two weeks before that (I work for a southern company and have been working from home for almost 5 weeks).
You say they were taking advice, but every other country was getting the same advise and very few, if any, interpreted it the same way as the UK. It has been a shambles from the start and to say anything less is blind stupidity tbh.
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As usual Ireland
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I wouldn’t go that far Irishred, they’ve made mistakes too. And I think it’s sickening that they are attempting to force through a government that isn’t wanted while this is going on, but that’s a whole other argument.
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Agree on the mistakes for example a 100 folk got told they tested negative only to be then told no you are actually positive
Regarding the government that isn’t wanted. Interesting point what government do you think is wanted?
I’m under no illusion as this grand coalition is to keep SF out
Incidentally I don’t vote for any major party I vote for independents.
I genuinely think we would have been back at the polls only the virus arrived
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I am not sure what government was wanted but the elections showed that one that most definitely wasn’t wanted was the exact same one that was there before, yet that is what is happening. Your right, it would have been back to the polls but for this and that’s why I think it stinks, Leo is using the good will generated by his handling of this to hang on to a position he does not deserve (was it the 6th count or something before he was even voted into his own seat?).
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SF may have missed their chance as I think a lot of folk will remember how this was handled at the next election thus buying FG more votes
Not right but will happen
Also everyone on here calls me Irish
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Piers Morgan is the best voice in the UK on corona, what the hell is going on.
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posted on 14/4/20
I know half of deaths here have been in nursing homes
posted on 14/4/20
The figures from care homes are reported once a week. The government have time and time again said they take time to collate whereas the hospital figures are quicker. What else are they supposed to do exactly?
posted on 14/4/20
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 6 minutes ago
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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posted on 14/4/20
I don't really know what's going on with England regarding reporting of Care Home deaths.
In Scotland the next update on community deaths (from National Records for Scotland) is published tomorrow (published weekly). The latest update was Wednesday last week where it indicated there were 354 deaths where COVID was either confirmed by test or suspected by the Doctor up until 5th April. This compared to 220 deaths recorded by Health Protection Scotland which is Hospital deaths. The excel data can be found in the link below.
Right now, the Hospital death total is 615. The data released tomorrow will show us a lot more.
There are some encouraging signs up here as the number of patients in ICU has been gradually decreasing and hospital admissions has not increased. Hopefully there is some light at the end of the tunnel.
The Scot Gov are also publishing some useful data which is broken down by health board and the number of NHS staff which are absent due to COVID-related issues. This number has also been decreasing thankfully.
https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/covid19stats
https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-tests-and-cases-in-scotland/
posted on 14/4/20
I should add that as far as Im aware the National Records for Scotland figure will include those recorded by Health Protection Scotland.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 22 minutes ago
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
posted on 14/4/20
I'm sorry that I don't have a source for this, but I understand there are stats around that say that, for the increase of the number of deaths per day in the UK this year as compared to last year, only about half of those are being directly attributed to coronavirus. The other half are either unconfirmed coronavirus or likely something linked to either it or lockdown.
However, I understand this figure is approximately the same in France, Spain and Italy. i.e. We are definitely under-recording deaths right now, but so is almost everywhere comparable. (I don't know about Germany.)
posted on 14/4/20
One of the saddest aspects of this is the daily 'Ooo, at least we're doing better than [insert name of 'rival' country].
I find myself doing it too. Why, I really don't know.
posted on 14/4/20
It was obvious from the beginning that the government got it badly wrong. There had to be an earlier closure of airports, mass testing and isolating.
Too late for that now so they had to introduced the lockdown lite and when they get it down to more manageable levels, they need to do it right this time mass testing, isolating positive cases and from what reports are saying, introducing a test to tell you if you've had it already and an app to help people keep track of positive tests and whether they've been in contact with anybody, so they can then self isolate.
posted on 14/4/20
I believe that the government gives the numbers of deaths registered, which is faster in hospital than anywhere else
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I don't think the government are doing anything wrong this time
posted on 14/4/20
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comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 22 minutes ago
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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How have they made such a mess of it - no false new please?
posted on 14/4/20
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posted 14 minutes ago
I believe that the government gives the numbers of deaths registered, which is faster in hospital than anywhere else
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I don't think the government are doing anything wrong this time
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and nor are they reporting in any different way to the international community.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
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comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 22 minutes ago
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
posted on 14/4/20
Piers Morgan is the best voice in the UK on corona, what the hell is going on.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
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Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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When does moaning become constructive criticism? Too many saying no point moaning when there are glaring mistakes being made daily.
posted on 14/4/20
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comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 22 minutes ago
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
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Yes I was actually. Living in the north of Ireland I have been in a position to compare and contrast the responses of the two local jurisdictions (Ireland and UK). And while the Irish response hasn’t been perfect, it is proving to to exponentially better than the UK response. While Boris was talking about herd immunity and bragging about shaking hands with people who were infected, other countries were closing schools, while the Irish officially didn’t go into lockdown till after the UK, we were de facto in lockdown almost two weeks before that (I work for a southern company and have been working from home for almost 5 weeks).
You say they were taking advice, but every other country was getting the same advise and very few, if any, interpreted it the same way as the UK. It has been a shambles from the start and to say anything less is blind stupidity tbh.
posted on 14/4/20
the PPE that nursing home assistants are given to nurse these care homes that are riddled with Covid 19 is truly pathetic.
However, despite been told this and that the government is blatantly lying about the distribution of correct PPE to these areas of social care, the (Tory voting) great British public doesn't seem to really give a toss about these people (who are heroes actually) despite the fact they seem to applaud them every thursday evening from their doorsteps, like sheep.
posted on 14/4/20
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posted 45 minutes ago
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 22 minutes ago
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
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Yes I was actually. Living in the north of Ireland I have been in a position to compare and contrast the responses of the two local jurisdictions (Ireland and UK). And while the Irish response hasn’t been perfect, it is proving to to exponentially better than the UK response. While Boris was talking about herd immunity and bragging about shaking hands with people who were infected, other countries were closing schools, while the Irish officially didn’t go into lockdown till after the UK, we were de facto in lockdown almost two weeks before that (I work for a southern company and have been working from home for almost 5 weeks).
You say they were taking advice, but every other country was getting the same advise and very few, if any, interpreted it the same way as the UK. It has been a shambles from the start and to say anything less is blind stupidity tbh.
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As usual Ireland
posted on 14/4/20
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comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
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comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
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comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 22 minutes ago
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
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Yes I was actually. Living in the north of Ireland I have been in a position to compare and contrast the responses of the two local jurisdictions (Ireland and UK). And while the Irish response hasn’t been perfect, it is proving to to exponentially better than the UK response. While Boris was talking about herd immunity and bragging about shaking hands with people who were infected, other countries were closing schools, while the Irish officially didn’t go into lockdown till after the UK, we were de facto in lockdown almost two weeks before that (I work for a southern company and have been working from home for almost 5 weeks).
You say they were taking advice, but every other country was getting the same advise and very few, if any, interpreted it the same way as the UK. It has been a shambles from the start and to say anything less is blind stupidity tbh.
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As usual Ireland
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I wouldn’t go that far Irishred, they’ve made mistakes too. And I think it’s sickening that they are attempting to force through a government that isn’t wanted while this is going on, but that’s a whole other argument.
posted on 14/4/20
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 22 minutes ago
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
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Yes I was actually. Living in the north of Ireland I have been in a position to compare and contrast the responses of the two local jurisdictions (Ireland and UK). And while the Irish response hasn’t been perfect, it is proving to to exponentially better than the UK response. While Boris was talking about herd immunity and bragging about shaking hands with people who were infected, other countries were closing schools, while the Irish officially didn’t go into lockdown till after the UK, we were de facto in lockdown almost two weeks before that (I work for a southern company and have been working from home for almost 5 weeks).
You say they were taking advice, but every other country was getting the same advise and very few, if any, interpreted it the same way as the UK. It has been a shambles from the start and to say anything less is blind stupidity tbh.
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As usual Ireland
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I wouldn’t go that far Irishred, they’ve made mistakes too. And I think it’s sickening that they are attempting to force through a government that isn’t wanted while this is going on, but that’s a whole other argument.
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Agree on the mistakes for example a 100 folk got told they tested negative only to be then told no you are actually positive
Regarding the government that isn’t wanted. Interesting point what government do you think is wanted?
I’m under no illusion as this grand coalition is to keep SF out
Incidentally I don’t vote for any major party I vote for independents.
I genuinely think we would have been back at the polls only the virus arrived
posted on 14/4/20
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 22 minutes ago
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
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Yes I was actually. Living in the north of Ireland I have been in a position to compare and contrast the responses of the two local jurisdictions (Ireland and UK). And while the Irish response hasn’t been perfect, it is proving to to exponentially better than the UK response. While Boris was talking about herd immunity and bragging about shaking hands with people who were infected, other countries were closing schools, while the Irish officially didn’t go into lockdown till after the UK, we were de facto in lockdown almost two weeks before that (I work for a southern company and have been working from home for almost 5 weeks).
You say they were taking advice, but every other country was getting the same advise and very few, if any, interpreted it the same way as the UK. It has been a shambles from the start and to say anything less is blind stupidity tbh.
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As usual Ireland
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I wouldn’t go that far Irishred, they’ve made mistakes too. And I think it’s sickening that they are attempting to force through a government that isn’t wanted while this is going on, but that’s a whole other argument.
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Agree on the mistakes for example a 100 folk got told they tested negative only to be then told no you are actually positive
Regarding the government that isn’t wanted. Interesting point what government do you think is wanted?
I’m under no illusion as this grand coalition is to keep SF out
Incidentally I don’t vote for any major party I vote for independents.
I genuinely think we would have been back at the polls only the virus arrived
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I am not sure what government was wanted but the elections showed that one that most definitely wasn’t wanted was the exact same one that was there before, yet that is what is happening. Your right, it would have been back to the polls but for this and that’s why I think it stinks, Leo is using the good will generated by his handling of this to hang on to a position he does not deserve (was it the 6th count or something before he was even voted into his own seat?).
posted on 14/4/20
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 22 minutes ago
Oh and for the record I think the government has got an awful lot wrong, but moaning for moanings sake doesn’t help.
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This is the understatement of all understatements. As every day passes we are beginning to see more and more the absolute mess that the UK government have made of this. It should be a national disgrace, but there will be those who ignore it and make excuses for it simply due to their political persuasion.
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Were you writing this at the time? Hindsight is a great thing. I do think it could have been done quicker, but they were taking advice not making it up.
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Yes I was actually. Living in the north of Ireland I have been in a position to compare and contrast the responses of the two local jurisdictions (Ireland and UK). And while the Irish response hasn’t been perfect, it is proving to to exponentially better than the UK response. While Boris was talking about herd immunity and bragging about shaking hands with people who were infected, other countries were closing schools, while the Irish officially didn’t go into lockdown till after the UK, we were de facto in lockdown almost two weeks before that (I work for a southern company and have been working from home for almost 5 weeks).
You say they were taking advice, but every other country was getting the same advise and very few, if any, interpreted it the same way as the UK. It has been a shambles from the start and to say anything less is blind stupidity tbh.
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As usual Ireland
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I wouldn’t go that far Irishred, they’ve made mistakes too. And I think it’s sickening that they are attempting to force through a government that isn’t wanted while this is going on, but that’s a whole other argument.
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Agree on the mistakes for example a 100 folk got told they tested negative only to be then told no you are actually positive
Regarding the government that isn’t wanted. Interesting point what government do you think is wanted?
I’m under no illusion as this grand coalition is to keep SF out
Incidentally I don’t vote for any major party I vote for independents.
I genuinely think we would have been back at the polls only the virus arrived
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I am not sure what government was wanted but the elections showed that one that most definitely wasn’t wanted was the exact same one that was there before, yet that is what is happening. Your right, it would have been back to the polls but for this and that’s why I think it stinks, Leo is using the good will generated by his handling of this to hang on to a position he does not deserve (was it the 6th count or something before he was even voted into his own seat?).
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SF may have missed their chance as I think a lot of folk will remember how this was handled at the next election thus buying FG more votes
Not right but will happen
Also everyone on here calls me Irish
posted on 14/4/20
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 22 minutes ago
Piers Morgan is the best voice in the UK on corona, what the hell is going on.
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