King Kunta you have made a lot of claims without one single creditable link.
Bojo has another sprog.
Yay.
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
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Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 9 minutes ago
On the positive side - the nhs capacity hasn’t been breached, infected people weren’t lying on hospital floors waiting for treatment as they were in Italy while in Spain elderly people in care homes were abandoned and literally left to die. In New York they dug mass graves to deal with the rapid death rate
We sometimes take things for granted in this country. Not saying this pandemic has been handled well, but it absolutely could have been far worse
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You've set a pretty low bar there.
Nobody lying on hospital floors dying. That's good.
We've stick a few thousands beds in some conference centres so that we can say capacity isnt breached .
People were dying and suffering in this country for lack of resources, care and attention long before COVID. Let's not pretend that it isn't massively worse now.
I'm hearing first hand every day about the situation in one hospital and it's a mess. We got very close to breaking point here.
And we're still being told that PPE is a logistics issue.
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That’s a low bar that wasn’t achieved by two of the largest countries in Europe - that could easily have been us. The new makeshift hospitals have barely been used - the one in Birmingham hadn’t taken a single patient last time I checked. That’s because we have kept the capacity in check
Meanwhile the government has rolled out a £330bn initial programme to cover 80% of people’s wages who have been furloughed in a move never before seen in this country. Some countries won’t be able to do that
Not saying they haven’t got plenty wrong, but sometimes people can take being British and living in a relatively wealthy country for granted
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Wait a minute! Where is this idea that the government is funding anything coming from? There is no hand out.
Its our money in the first place. We'll all pay it back at rates a loan shark would be embarrassed by.
Ffs are we supposed to be grateful for that.
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The government is borrowing the money - it isn’t ours. There isn’t £330bn pot of money built up from taxation to dip into.
Of course we as a country will have to pay it back - exactly the same way as we did after World War 2 (our debt to the USA took 50 years to pay back). And yes that will have to come either from taxation or cutting back spending for decades (or both measures) but some countries won’t have the means to even borrow such an amount in the first place.
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 2 minutes ago
King Kunta you have made a lot of claims without one single creditable link.
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Which claims? My post about HIV treatment, that’s because it’s fact, not a claim.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
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Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
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My SO works for the public health agency. Still to be tested. My great aunt died on Sunday in a nursing home, still not tested. BBC breakfast yesterday morning, care home area manager of one of the UKs biggest - stated only 1.65% of his staff have been tested. Think I will take that over Jimmy shades on JA 606.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
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Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
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I know GPs and nurses who have been ill and had to isolate and they didn't get a test. So they have no idea whether they have had covid. Our nursing homes are being ravaged and folk are getting sent to homes without tests.
Can we meet in the middle to say it's "slightly less than perfect"
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
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Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
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From the stats.
Hopelessly slow on testing,
I don’t think I’ve made any other posts that could be interpreted as claims in the thread.
Johnson`s girfriend has given birth again. Fine, but this will be another distraction for a couple of weeks. It seems all the bad news will once again get buried with this news.
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 9 minutes ago
On the positive side - the nhs capacity hasn’t been breached, infected people weren’t lying on hospital floors waiting for treatment as they were in Italy while in Spain elderly people in care homes were abandoned and literally left to die. In New York they dug mass graves to deal with the rapid death rate
We sometimes take things for granted in this country. Not saying this pandemic has been handled well, but it absolutely could have been far worse
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You've set a pretty low bar there.
Nobody lying on hospital floors dying. That's good.
We've stick a few thousands beds in some conference centres so that we can say capacity isnt breached .
People were dying and suffering in this country for lack of resources, care and attention long before COVID. Let's not pretend that it isn't massively worse now.
I'm hearing first hand every day about the situation in one hospital and it's a mess. We got very close to breaking point here.
And we're still being told that PPE is a logistics issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s a low bar that wasn’t achieved by two of the largest countries in Europe - that could easily have been us. The new makeshift hospitals have barely been used - the one in Birmingham hadn’t taken a single patient last time I checked. That’s because we have kept the capacity in check
Meanwhile the government has rolled out a £330bn initial programme to cover 80% of people’s wages who have been furloughed in a move never before seen in this country. Some countries won’t be able to do that
Not saying they haven’t got plenty wrong, but sometimes people can take being British and living in a relatively wealthy country for granted
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wait a minute! Where is this idea that the government is funding anything coming from? There is no hand out.
Its our money in the first place. We'll all pay it back at rates a loan shark would be embarrassed by.
Ffs are we supposed to be grateful for that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The government is borrowing the money - it isn’t ours. There isn’t £330bn pot of money built up from taxation to dip into.
Of course we as a country will have to pay it back - exactly the same way as we did after World War 2 (our debt to the USA took 50 years to pay back). And yes that will have to come either from taxation or cutting back spending for decades (or both measures) but some countries won’t have the means to even borrow such an amount in the first place.
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From whom is this money being borrowed and why do they still have it to loan out in the midst of a pandemic?
Genuine question.
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
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I know GPs and nurses who have been ill and had to isolate and they didn't get a test. So they have no idea whether they have had covid. Our nursing homes are being ravaged and folk are getting sent to homes without tests.
Can we meet in the middle to say it's "slightly less than perfect"
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That 100,000 a day target has failed spectacularly.
Sorry Kunta, I meant Derry devil boy. My bad.
We're not borrowing it, we're printing it.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know GPs and nurses who have been ill and had to isolate and they didn't get a test. So they have no idea whether they have had covid. Our nursing homes are being ravaged and folk are getting sent to homes without tests.
Can we meet in the middle to say it's "slightly less than perfect"
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That 100,000 a day target has failed spectacularly.
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It's not over till it's over still 24 hours left this month. Rhetoric Vs Reality. Reality always wins in the end.
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know GPs and nurses who have been ill and had to isolate and they didn't get a test. So they have no idea whether they have had covid. Our nursing homes are being ravaged and folk are getting sent to homes without tests.
Can we meet in the middle to say it's "slightly less than perfect"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup, i know a doctor who had symptoms, so self isolated for two weeks (as did his doctor wife). Requested a test immediately but didn't get it until 2 weeks later, and it came back negative. So, that was two doctors needlessly off work for 2 weeks due to a huge shortage in testing kits.
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know GPs and nurses who have been ill and had to isolate and they didn't get a test. So they have no idea whether they have had covid. Our nursing homes are being ravaged and folk are getting sent to homes without tests.
Can we meet in the middle to say it's "slightly less than perfect"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That 100,000 a day target has failed spectacularly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not over till it's over still 24 hours left this month.Rhetoric Vs Reality. Reality always wins in the end.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
B b b b but we have the CAPACITY......
All the worlds central banks are monetizing this spending.
My SO works for the public health agency. Still to be tested. My great aunt died on Sunday in a nursing home, still not tested. BBC breakfast yesterday morning, care home area manager of one of the UKs biggest - stated only 1.65% of his staff have been tested.
------
What a shame, how is the testing working so that they don't test everyone at a specific venue?
Sorry to hear about your aunt.
comment by LoneWolf - Rebel Without A Cause (U22026)
posted 1 minute ago
We're not borrowing it, we're printing it.
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This could be worse than we think then.
The ground zero nursing home in USA where they had few hundred patients and CDC sent them something like 45 tests for residents and staff. It's just mind boggling to the average lay person like myself.
Firstly and initially a lack of tests and then when they did start coming in a complete mis management of testing kits that were available. Don’t worry but if your surname happens to be Gove, you should be ok.
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
I think we should stay in lockdown for a while longer. China showed that a strong lockdown for a couple of months can all but eradicate the virus.
Obviously it's impossible to enforce as strict a lockdown here but it seems pretty obvious to me that if you start easing when there are still thousands of new cases a day then the second wave will hit pretty quickly.
Problem is with clowns like Trump around this virus will continue circling the globe. You really need global action, which is impossible in the current environment.
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Lmfao, you trust anything that comes out of that country?
Specifically death figures?
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posted on 29/4/20
King Kunta you have made a lot of claims without one single creditable link.
posted on 29/4/20
Bojo has another sprog.
Yay.
posted on 29/4/20
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
posted on 29/4/20
Sorry Derry devil boy.
posted on 29/4/20
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 9 minutes ago
On the positive side - the nhs capacity hasn’t been breached, infected people weren’t lying on hospital floors waiting for treatment as they were in Italy while in Spain elderly people in care homes were abandoned and literally left to die. In New York they dug mass graves to deal with the rapid death rate
We sometimes take things for granted in this country. Not saying this pandemic has been handled well, but it absolutely could have been far worse
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You've set a pretty low bar there.
Nobody lying on hospital floors dying. That's good.
We've stick a few thousands beds in some conference centres so that we can say capacity isnt breached .
People were dying and suffering in this country for lack of resources, care and attention long before COVID. Let's not pretend that it isn't massively worse now.
I'm hearing first hand every day about the situation in one hospital and it's a mess. We got very close to breaking point here.
And we're still being told that PPE is a logistics issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s a low bar that wasn’t achieved by two of the largest countries in Europe - that could easily have been us. The new makeshift hospitals have barely been used - the one in Birmingham hadn’t taken a single patient last time I checked. That’s because we have kept the capacity in check
Meanwhile the government has rolled out a £330bn initial programme to cover 80% of people’s wages who have been furloughed in a move never before seen in this country. Some countries won’t be able to do that
Not saying they haven’t got plenty wrong, but sometimes people can take being British and living in a relatively wealthy country for granted
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wait a minute! Where is this idea that the government is funding anything coming from? There is no hand out.
Its our money in the first place. We'll all pay it back at rates a loan shark would be embarrassed by.
Ffs are we supposed to be grateful for that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The government is borrowing the money - it isn’t ours. There isn’t £330bn pot of money built up from taxation to dip into.
Of course we as a country will have to pay it back - exactly the same way as we did after World War 2 (our debt to the USA took 50 years to pay back). And yes that will have to come either from taxation or cutting back spending for decades (or both measures) but some countries won’t have the means to even borrow such an amount in the first place.
posted on 29/4/20
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 2 minutes ago
King Kunta you have made a lot of claims without one single creditable link.
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Which claims? My post about HIV treatment, that’s because it’s fact, not a claim.
posted on 29/4/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
———————
My SO works for the public health agency. Still to be tested. My great aunt died on Sunday in a nursing home, still not tested. BBC breakfast yesterday morning, care home area manager of one of the UKs biggest - stated only 1.65% of his staff have been tested. Think I will take that over Jimmy shades on JA 606.
posted on 29/4/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know GPs and nurses who have been ill and had to isolate and they didn't get a test. So they have no idea whether they have had covid. Our nursing homes are being ravaged and folk are getting sent to homes without tests.
Can we meet in the middle to say it's "slightly less than perfect"
posted on 29/4/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From the stats.
Hopelessly slow on testing,
posted on 29/4/20
I don’t think I’ve made any other posts that could be interpreted as claims in the thread.
posted on 29/4/20
Johnson`s girfriend has given birth again. Fine, but this will be another distraction for a couple of weeks. It seems all the bad news will once again get buried with this news.
posted on 29/4/20
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by New Magnum. The Mild Drover (U16400)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 9 minutes ago
On the positive side - the nhs capacity hasn’t been breached, infected people weren’t lying on hospital floors waiting for treatment as they were in Italy while in Spain elderly people in care homes were abandoned and literally left to die. In New York they dug mass graves to deal with the rapid death rate
We sometimes take things for granted in this country. Not saying this pandemic has been handled well, but it absolutely could have been far worse
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You've set a pretty low bar there.
Nobody lying on hospital floors dying. That's good.
We've stick a few thousands beds in some conference centres so that we can say capacity isnt breached .
People were dying and suffering in this country for lack of resources, care and attention long before COVID. Let's not pretend that it isn't massively worse now.
I'm hearing first hand every day about the situation in one hospital and it's a mess. We got very close to breaking point here.
And we're still being told that PPE is a logistics issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s a low bar that wasn’t achieved by two of the largest countries in Europe - that could easily have been us. The new makeshift hospitals have barely been used - the one in Birmingham hadn’t taken a single patient last time I checked. That’s because we have kept the capacity in check
Meanwhile the government has rolled out a £330bn initial programme to cover 80% of people’s wages who have been furloughed in a move never before seen in this country. Some countries won’t be able to do that
Not saying they haven’t got plenty wrong, but sometimes people can take being British and living in a relatively wealthy country for granted
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wait a minute! Where is this idea that the government is funding anything coming from? There is no hand out.
Its our money in the first place. We'll all pay it back at rates a loan shark would be embarrassed by.
Ffs are we supposed to be grateful for that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The government is borrowing the money - it isn’t ours. There isn’t £330bn pot of money built up from taxation to dip into.
Of course we as a country will have to pay it back - exactly the same way as we did after World War 2 (our debt to the USA took 50 years to pay back). And yes that will have to come either from taxation or cutting back spending for decades (or both measures) but some countries won’t have the means to even borrow such an amount in the first place.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From whom is this money being borrowed and why do they still have it to loan out in the midst of a pandemic?
Genuine question.
posted on 29/4/20
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know GPs and nurses who have been ill and had to isolate and they didn't get a test. So they have no idea whether they have had covid. Our nursing homes are being ravaged and folk are getting sent to homes without tests.
Can we meet in the middle to say it's "slightly less than perfect"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That 100,000 a day target has failed spectacularly.
posted on 29/4/20
Sorry Kunta, I meant Derry devil boy. My bad.
posted on 29/4/20
We're not borrowing it, we're printing it.
posted on 29/4/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know GPs and nurses who have been ill and had to isolate and they didn't get a test. So they have no idea whether they have had covid. Our nursing homes are being ravaged and folk are getting sent to homes without tests.
Can we meet in the middle to say it's "slightly less than perfect"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That 100,000 a day target has failed spectacularly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not over till it's over still 24 hours left this month. Rhetoric Vs Reality. Reality always wins in the end.
posted on 29/4/20
posted on 29/4/20
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know GPs and nurses who have been ill and had to isolate and they didn't get a test. So they have no idea whether they have had covid. Our nursing homes are being ravaged and folk are getting sent to homes without tests.
Can we meet in the middle to say it's "slightly less than perfect"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yup, i know a doctor who had symptoms, so self isolated for two weeks (as did his doctor wife). Requested a test immediately but didn't get it until 2 weeks later, and it came back negative. So, that was two doctors needlessly off work for 2 weeks due to a huge shortage in testing kits.
posted on 29/4/20
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 4 minutes ago
Coming out of lockdown, when we haven’t even been testing peopleidiots
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where on earth do you get the “haven’t even been testing people” from?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know GPs and nurses who have been ill and had to isolate and they didn't get a test. So they have no idea whether they have had covid. Our nursing homes are being ravaged and folk are getting sent to homes without tests.
Can we meet in the middle to say it's "slightly less than perfect"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That 100,000 a day target has failed spectacularly.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not over till it's over still 24 hours left this month.Rhetoric Vs Reality. Reality always wins in the end.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
B b b b but we have the CAPACITY......
posted on 29/4/20
All the worlds central banks are monetizing this spending.
posted on 29/4/20
My SO works for the public health agency. Still to be tested. My great aunt died on Sunday in a nursing home, still not tested. BBC breakfast yesterday morning, care home area manager of one of the UKs biggest - stated only 1.65% of his staff have been tested.
------
What a shame, how is the testing working so that they don't test everyone at a specific venue?
Sorry to hear about your aunt.
posted on 29/4/20
comment by LoneWolf - Rebel Without A Cause (U22026)
posted 1 minute ago
We're not borrowing it, we're printing it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This could be worse than we think then.
posted on 29/4/20
The ground zero nursing home in USA where they had few hundred patients and CDC sent them something like 45 tests for residents and staff. It's just mind boggling to the average lay person like myself.
posted on 29/4/20
Firstly and initially a lack of tests and then when they did start coming in a complete mis management of testing kits that were available. Don’t worry but if your surname happens to be Gove, you should be ok.
posted on 29/4/20
comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
I think we should stay in lockdown for a while longer. China showed that a strong lockdown for a couple of months can all but eradicate the virus.
Obviously it's impossible to enforce as strict a lockdown here but it seems pretty obvious to me that if you start easing when there are still thousands of new cases a day then the second wave will hit pretty quickly.
Problem is with clowns like Trump around this virus will continue circling the globe. You really need global action, which is impossible in the current environment.
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Lmfao, you trust anything that comes out of that country?
Specifically death figures?
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