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The defence of the government has been as embarrassing as the government’s handling of the crisis.

posted on 29/4/20

comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Poolmyfinger - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 12 minutes ago
Because it's racist to deny those poor, impoverished people to come to the UK to take resources from those who are citizens and are entitled to them
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How do the poor impoverished people manage take resources away from Citizens? Get up off your ass and find a job and stop blaming people who work hard for your sheety life.
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Because in the eyes of the left, a poor immigrant from a country like Somalia is more deserving than a British citizen who has paid taxes.

The same garbage happens in the United States. Absolutely disgusting.
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You really believe this? That's insane but at least it's an excuse to hate.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/15/california-to-give-cash-payments-to-immigrants-hurt-by-coronavirus.html

There's an example of the crap I am talking about.

Giving a stimulus payout - taxpayer funds - to those who are in the US illegally is a despicable plan. If the state has THAT much money available, how about giving it toward small businesses owned by Americans or give it other Americans who are in dire need.

Here's another one...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/11/politics/undocumented-immigrants-health-care-democrats/index.html

The left do not care about Americans. I am sure there are members of the left in the UK that don;t care about British citizens. CITIZENS.
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This post it just thinly-veiled xenophobia.

California does, of course, have resources for small businesses affected by Covid 19. See below. Helping one sector of society does not exclude helping the other.

https://business.ca.gov/coronavirus-2019/

As for attacking the left for not caring about people?

Though making broad generalizations like that is not helpful that statement is patently ridiculous. The left is traditionally the 'side' of worker's groups and unions - people who dedicated their lives to making the lives of the majority of residents - citizens or no - better.

Ask yourself this - why are you really so bothered about immigrants getting a little help? It would be helpful before you answer if you understood the reality behind economic migrants, and their contribution to the economy. Because using the line that they're somehow a drain is way off the mark.

posted on 29/4/20

I feel your time has been wasted even responding, Bales. You’re obviously not familiar with poolmyfinger.

posted on 29/4/20

comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
I feel your time has been wasted even responding, Bales. You’re obviously not familiar with poolmyfinger.

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Fortunately not.

Though I hope my post added context to the debate as a whole.

posted on 29/4/20

comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Poolmyfinger - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 12 minutes ago
Because it's racist to deny those poor, impoverished people to come to the UK to take resources from those who are citizens and are entitled to them
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How do the poor impoverished people manage take resources away from Citizens? Get up off your ass and find a job and stop blaming people who work hard for your sheety life.
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Because in the eyes of the left, a poor immigrant from a country like Somalia is more deserving than a British citizen who has paid taxes.

The same garbage happens in the United States. Absolutely disgusting.
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You really believe this? That's insane but at least it's an excuse to hate.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/15/california-to-give-cash-payments-to-immigrants-hurt-by-coronavirus.html

There's an example of the crap I am talking about.

Giving a stimulus payout - taxpayer funds - to those who are in the US illegally is a despicable plan. If the state has THAT much money available, how about giving it toward small businesses owned by Americans or give it other Americans who are in dire need.

Here's another one...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/11/politics/undocumented-immigrants-health-care-democrats/index.html

The left do not care about Americans. I am sure there are members of the left in the UK that don;t care about British citizens. CITIZENS.
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You'd think a global pandemic would see people unite and come together in the national interest. Ie. political divisions would be set aside.

With the current buffoon in charge this is impossible.

In regard to support for undocumented immigrants, around 10% percent of California's workforce are undocumented immigrants.

Who contributed over $2.5bn in taxes in 2019 alone.

As they are ineligible to claim anything from the $2.2 trillion stimulus package approved by Congress, some humanitarian aid during a time of a global pandemic isn't going to bankrupt California and may go some way to save some lives/livelihoods.

The shame of it all....

posted on 29/4/20

comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
I feel your time has been wasted even responding, Bales. You’re obviously not familiar with poolmyfinger.

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Fortunately not.

Though I hope my post added context to the debate as a whole.
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posted on 29/4/20

comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Poolmyfinger - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 12 minutes ago
Because it's racist to deny those poor, impoverished people to come to the UK to take resources from those who are citizens and are entitled to them
-----
How do the poor impoverished people manage take resources away from Citizens? Get up off your ass and find a job and stop blaming people who work hard for your sheety life.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Because in the eyes of the left, a poor immigrant from a country like Somalia is more deserving than a British citizen who has paid taxes.

The same garbage happens in the United States. Absolutely disgusting.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You really believe this? That's insane but at least it's an excuse to hate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/15/california-to-give-cash-payments-to-immigrants-hurt-by-coronavirus.html

There's an example of the crap I am talking about.

Giving a stimulus payout - taxpayer funds - to those who are in the US illegally is a despicable plan. If the state has THAT much money available, how about giving it toward small businesses owned by Americans or give it other Americans who are in dire need.

Here's another one...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/11/politics/undocumented-immigrants-health-care-democrats/index.html

The left do not care about Americans. I am sure there are members of the left in the UK that don;t care about British citizens. CITIZENS.
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"Immigrants are not eligible for the $2.2 trillion stimulus package approved by Congress last month, which gives cash payments to most Americans plus boosts unemployment benefits by $600 per week"

What was that you said about not caring? Seems to me like they're getting peanuts and rightfully so. You think they're going to repatriate 2m people? You think they're going to let 2m people starve and live under bridges and begging in Californian streets cities? That would do more damage to California than this stimulus.

Furthermore, even illegal immigrants still pay taxes and create wealth by buying stuff and trading and working. 2m of them is a good percentage of the overall economy. Who do you think picks the fruit in farms at minimum wage for 9-12 hours a shift? You think that's a job Americans want to do? No, they'd rather be jobless and in the dole than work in some farm. Some owners of these farms and businesses will protect their workers too. Not all of them are jackasses you know.

I'll tell you what, these people are getting this stimulus for the sake of California. It takes a mind that can critically analyse things to understand that it is in the interest of Americans in general that this stimulus is paid to these people. Crying about this is shooting yourself in the foot.

This is not something a person can be convinced of overnight and especially not over a written forum on the internet. It is experience that drives opinion and at the end of the day if you can't relate to something then you're bound to have extreme opinions about it.

America did not become so great by being stupid, but stupidity will take America far from greatness and its happening right in front of your eyes.

posted on 29/4/20

You'd think a global pandemic would see people unite and come together in the national interest. Ie. political divisions would be set aside.

With the current buffoon in charge this is impossible.

In regard to support for undocumented immigrants, around 10% percent of California's workforce are undocumented immigrants.

Who contributed over $2.5bn in taxes in 2019 alone.

As they are ineligible to claim anything from the $2.2 trillion stimulus package approved by Congress, some humanitarian aid during a time of a global pandemic isn't going to bankrupt California and may go some way to save some lives/livelihoods.

The shame of it all....
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posted on 29/4/20

These responses have restored my faith in ja606

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comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 4 minutes ago
How easy is it to become a citizen?
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Trump has made it virtually impossible. As it panders to his core supporters.

His administration has brought in a raft of policies to prevent undocumented immigrants from citizenship.

posted on 29/4/20

comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 10 minutes ago
Also, Doggie, best way to solve the immigration problem is adopting what I just outlined above. You feel they're entitled because they contribute in taxes.

That's good. I will gladly take that money, but we shouldn't return any of it back to them. Don't like it? Become a citizen.
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OK, crack on buddy

posted on 29/4/20

The government have failed every step of the way.

Slow with the lockdown - actually announcing which day the pubs would shut which means a load of people went for one last pizz up.
Cheltenham as mentioned above, and other sporting events planned..

This slow response was, I feel, calculated to talk about doing a lot, but in fact did very little which plays into the herd immunity plan..

We still don’t have mandated checks at airports nor enforced quarantine. There are hundreds of airport hotels available for this to happen.

Ignoring the outcomes from the Cygnus study that outlined the NHS would collapse in the face of a pandemic. Government did nothing in that for 4 years because pursuing Brexit was more important.

With Brexit being a political ideology the government completely ignored the U.K. being invited to a EU wide procurement programme for medical equipment including PPE.

Lying about their being a logistical issue in delivering PPE - the PPE doesn’t exist. There are at this moment hundreds if not thousands of delivery drivers on furlough. Completely crazy to blame logistics - this is the same government that didn’t know “the importance of Dover” when trying to deliver Brexit.

Actually announcing that families of the NHS staff dying doing their jobs will be getting £60k - this is basically hush money.
Not having PPE and resulting in deaths means corporate manslaughter in the business world. Someone in government have done the sums on that £60k

posted on 29/4/20

Weird how people can walk around being an absolute piece of chit and not only be content, but happy with it.

Thank God the whole world isn't like that or life would be miserable.

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comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 8 minutes ago
Weird how people can walk around being an absolute piece of chit and not only be content, but happy with it.

Thank God the whole world isn't like that or life would be miserable.
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If it makes me a piece of chit to not sell out my country, then so be it
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That's cool. The first step in recovery is acceptance.

posted on 29/4/20

comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 8 minutes ago
Weird how people can walk around being an absolute piece of chit and not only be content, but happy with it.

Thank God the whole world isn't like that or life would be miserable.
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If it makes me a piece of chit to not sell out my country, then so be it
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That's cool. The first step in recovery is acceptance.
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posted on 30/4/20

comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 6 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 8 minutes ago
Weird how people can walk around being an absolute piece of chit and not only be content, but happy with it.

Thank God the whole world isn't like that or life would be miserable.
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If it makes me a piece of chit to not sell out my country, then so be it
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What makes it your country?

You realise that hundreds of thousands of indigenous people were killed to help make it thus..

posted on 30/4/20

UK covid-19 deaths per capita are the 4th highest in the world. Which is astonishing when you consider that :

- it is an island nation
- had weeks of pre-alert
- decided not to partake in procurement with the EU due to political expediency.

It is a failing from the powers that be.

posted on 30/4/20

comment by Poolmyfinger - Truth Teller - F#ck China (U12438)
posted 8 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 4 minutes ago
How easy is it to become a citizen?
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Trump has made it virtually impossible. As it panders to his core supporters.

His administration has brought in a raft of policies to prevent undocumented immigrants from citizenship.
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It's a process, and as it should be. If we just granted amnesty to anyone who crossed the border, then the floodgates would open up.

If you meet the criteria, then we will welcome you with open arms.

Nobody is entitled to be a part of the United States except those who are citizens. We also have the right to determine who should be a citizen of the country...and the ones we will welcome are those who actually obey our immigration laws
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Are you a descendant of a North American Indian If not it is not your country. You are of immigrant descent, like the ones you are trying to keep out of the country..

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