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Very unlikely the season will finish,

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posted on 30/4/20

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 20 minutes ago
Clubs can't operate without this cash.
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Sounds like bullshiiit to me. I doubt any PL club can't take a short term hit.
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Usually this time of year clubs taking in 10s of millions frmo season ticket sales/renewals. Currently zero.

Spurs take about £4m per game and will lose £20m for missing out on this season.

If TV deals withhold 25% of the money then thats another £30m-£40m. If sponsors do something similar, then thats millions more. Falling merchandising while overheads remain pretty much the same. The potential hit on the av. EPL club would be £40m. Much higher for those with bigger stadiums. Some might be able to cope better than most but do not underestimate the financial hit.

posted on 30/4/20

comment by Everywhere you go always take Lamela with you. (U7905)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 12 minutes ago
I don't see how the CL can be completed, although it's plausible they can run it into the new season. It's perhaps still unlikely.
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A problem with that is Atletico and Lyon aren't currently in CL places and City may well be banned next season.

They'll probably just have to suck it up, but it's pretty harsh for these teams not to have a chance of winning the CL despite not being knocked out.


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Why is that a problem?

posted on 30/4/20

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 27 minutes ago
Clubs can't operate without this cash.
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Sounds like bullshiiit to me. I doubt any PL club can't take a short term hit.
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Define short term? I'm taking what I said based on multiple journalists saying this, make of that what you will.

But without TV revenue, or gate receipts, how are a club like say Burnley meant to continue to operate with very little cash coming in?

posted on 30/4/20

comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 15 minutes ago
Why even bother trying to finish a season that has now lost all integrity, it would be unethical and morally wrong in these circumstances to even consider risking any more lives for the sake of something that now has no meaning or distinction.

People who keep banging the finance drum are just desperately clinging onto that to try and justify their selfish beliefs. Clubs will be looked after financially and will cut their cloths accordingly.

Sorry Pool fans, this football season is almost certainly dead and has been for some time the sooner you all start getting used to the idea, the better.

Even if it somehow miraculously resumed, it could not now be considered 100% legitimate anyway, so why waste time, effort and more lives risking it.
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Why would restarting this season make it illegitimate but starting a new one is perfectly legitimate?

posted on 30/4/20

Also if we start a new season and then a new wave of corona comes in after a month does the new season then be voided and become illegitimate?

Does it not make more sense to at least try finish this season and if it becomes clear that it's simply too difficult to have football under the current circumstances then we're essentially in the same position we're in now without any impact to the new season.

posted on 30/4/20

comment by AND THATS THE TRUTH (U21210)
posted 22 minutes ago
I don’t even think we can state a September start up is 100% viable just yet. So if it does run deep and into next year then it would make more sense to complete this season than have 2 unfinished seasons.
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I agree, if theres no footie until after xmas then the only thing there is time for is to play this season to a finish.

Only with crowds though not some cobbled together neutral venues rubbish like they are talking about at the moment.

posted on 30/4/20

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 15 minutes ago
Why even bother trying to finish a season that has now lost all integrity, it would be unethical and morally wrong in these circumstances to even consider risking any more lives for the sake of something that now has no meaning or distinction.

People who keep banging the finance drum are just desperately clinging onto that to try and justify their selfish beliefs. Clubs will be looked after financially and will cut their cloths accordingly.

Sorry Pool fans, this football season is almost certainly dead and has been for some time the sooner you all start getting used to the idea, the better.

Even if it somehow miraculously resumed, it could not now be considered 100% legitimate anyway, so why waste time, effort and more lives risking it.
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Why would restarting this season make it illegitimate but starting a new one is perfectly legitimate?
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Why do you think ? Because Liverpool won’t be winning the league

posted on 30/4/20

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah mate sorry my brains still waking up!

I mean that whenever it's safe to restart football, assuming behind closed doors, then the goal should be to finish the domestic season and FA Cup. It doesn't matter when this happens but let's say its starts back up September 1st for example and takes two months to finish.

If it goes ell then the next season could start say in mid January. We won't immediately get back to what we consider normal start dates for a season for a couple of years but I don't see that as being a major issue.
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I think the trouble would be, as others have pointed out previously, lining up all the European leagues so that they can have the CL and EL up and running again.

I don't think they should run either competition next season anyway though, so... I dunno. Glad I'm not the one trying to sort it tbh.

posted on 30/4/20

I think we can all agree, it is a complete mess. And only time will tell how it is all going to pan out.

UEFA though surely cannot be seriously thinking their European Competitions Finals will be taking place in August, can they?

posted on 30/4/20

There is a solution that can solve a lot of issues and that is to promote the top 2 teams from championship and have no relegation. That also helps TV payments as it will create an extra 82 games, almost covering the 91 games lost this season.

Then we only have the top end of the table to deal with. Which may not be an issue if there is no CL or EL next season.

posted on 30/4/20

The thing that puzzles me is that it has been stated by the Government's advisors that social distancing will be necessary for many months. So how do football players keep 2 metres apart if the game resumes in say June??

Unless they're going to introduce one set of rules for sports people and one set for the public, I can't see how football resumes until the virus stops spreading through the community - that will be achieved by social distancing and eventually a vaccine, both of which will take many months to achieve.

posted on 30/4/20

Are people that stupid to not realise players contracts expire at the end of June so the season can’t be continued if it isn’t finished by then.

Jesus Christ

posted on 30/4/20

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 15 minutes ago
Why even bother trying to finish a season that has now lost all integrity, it would be unethical and morally wrong in these circumstances to even consider risking any more lives for the sake of something that now has no meaning or distinction.

People who keep banging the finance drum are just desperately clinging onto that to try and justify their selfish beliefs. Clubs will be looked after financially and will cut their cloths accordingly.

Sorry Pool fans, this football season is almost certainly dead and has been for some time the sooner you all start getting used to the idea, the better.

Even if it somehow miraculously resumed, it could not now be considered 100% legitimate anyway, so why waste time, effort and more lives risking it.
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Why would restarting this season make it illegitimate but starting a new one is perfectly legitimate?
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Why do you think ? Because Liverpool won’t be winning the league
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Answer the question. What makes this season illegitimate if it does finish all 38 games for every club?

posted on 30/4/20

comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 3 minutes ago
Are people that stupid to not realise players contracts expire at the end of June so the season can’t be continued if it isn’t finished by then.

Jesus Christ
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So every players contract ends in June?

posted on 30/4/20

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 15 minutes ago
Why even bother trying to finish a season that has now lost all integrity, it would be unethical and morally wrong in these circumstances to even consider risking any more lives for the sake of something that now has no meaning or distinction.

People who keep banging the finance drum are just desperately clinging onto that to try and justify their selfish beliefs. Clubs will be looked after financially and will cut their cloths accordingly.

Sorry Pool fans, this football season is almost certainly dead and has been for some time the sooner you all start getting used to the idea, the better.

Even if it somehow miraculously resumed, it could not now be considered 100% legitimate anyway, so why waste time, effort and more lives risking it.
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Why would restarting this season make it illegitimate but starting a new one is perfectly legitimate?
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Well, this has been done to death, some clubs have gained an unfair advantage by suspending the season, others will be at an unfair disadvantage. Spurs for example, were going nowhere pre suspension, without Kane, Son, Sissoko, Bergjwin etc, now they will be all likely fit and available. This in turn disadvantages other clubs, whereas before they would be playing a severely depleted Spurs, now they will be playing a fully fit Spurs. You start a new season, set out a list of eventualities that are agreed upon (before it begins) in the event of yet more disruption, then everybody knows where they stand should a, b, c, d etc happen. That way there is no comeback should next season begin and not finish or start without fans and finish with fans etc etc etc.

posted on 30/4/20

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 3 minutes ago
Are people that stupid to not realise players contracts expire at the end of June so the season can’t be continued if it isn’t finished by then.

Jesus Christ
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So every players contract ends in June?
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Scousers really are thick

posted on 30/4/20

So the difference between legitimacy and illegitimacy is that all teams have agreed the terms before start of the season?

But if all teams agree to changes mid season then suddenly it's illegitimate?

OK that makes so much sense.

posted on 30/4/20

What a convenient technicality.

posted on 30/4/20

comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Hybrid Doos (U10416)
posted 3 minutes ago
Are people that stupid to not realise players contracts expire at the end of June so the season can’t be continued if it isn’t finished by then.

Jesus Christ
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So every players contract ends in June?
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Scousers really are thick
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Indulge me, I was under the impression that only players whose contracts end in June actually end.

posted on 30/4/20

Also short term contract extensions are a thing used daily in business around the world e.g. A contractor is employed to complete a project, the forecast was a year. But towards the end of the year its realised that its going to take three more months to complete, the contractor can be offered a short term extension to see out the project.

posted on 30/4/20

comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China tr... (U22357)
posted 1 minute ago
So the difference between legitimacy and illegitimacy is that all teams have agreed the terms before start of the season?

But if all teams agree to changes mid season then suddenly it's illegitimate?

OK that makes so much sense.
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As if all teams would agree to changes mid season, clubs with something to lose would run a mile from that fantasy.

posted on 30/4/20

comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 15 minutes ago
Why even bother trying to finish a season that has now lost all integrity, it would be unethical and morally wrong in these circumstances to even consider risking any more lives for the sake of something that now has no meaning or distinction.

People who keep banging the finance drum are just desperately clinging onto that to try and justify their selfish beliefs. Clubs will be looked after financially and will cut their cloths accordingly.

Sorry Pool fans, this football season is almost certainly dead and has been for some time the sooner you all start getting used to the idea, the better.

Even if it somehow miraculously resumed, it could not now be considered 100% legitimate anyway, so why waste time, effort and more lives risking it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why would restarting this season make it illegitimate but starting a new one is perfectly legitimate?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, this has been done to death, some clubs have gained an unfair advantage by suspending the season, others will be at an unfair disadvantage. Spurs for example, were going nowhere pre suspension, without Kane, Son, Sissoko, Bergjwin etc, now they will be all likely fit and available. This in turn disadvantages other clubs, whereas before they would be playing a severely depleted Spurs, now they will be playing a fully fit Spurs. You start a new season, set out a list of eventualities that are agreed upon (before it begins) in the event of yet more disruption, then everybody knows where they stand should a, b, c, d etc happen. That way there is no comeback should next season begin and not finish or start without fans and finish with fans etc etc etc.
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But does this not apply to all clubs with injured players who now might be fit? Seems like the lowest concern really.

posted on 30/4/20

comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China tr... (U22357)
posted 1 minute ago
So the difference between legitimacy and illegitimacy is that all teams have agreed the terms before start of the season?

But if all teams agree to changes mid season then suddenly it's illegitimate?

OK that makes so much sense.
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As if all teams would agree to changes mid season, clubs with something to lose would run a mile from that fantasy.
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January transfer windows?

posted on 30/4/20

comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 32 seconds ago
Also short term contract extensions are a thing used daily in business around the world e.g. A contractor is employed to complete a project, the forecast was a year. But towards the end of the year its realised that its going to take three more months to complete, the contractor can be offered a short term extension to see out the project.
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You might have leagues around Europe (and the world) starting at different times, so a player in the PL may have a pre contract with a club in the USA or wherever, which starts when his current deal expires. They are not going to extend his current contract and delay the start date at his new club.

posted on 30/4/20

Billy, wish you be bloody honest on here mate and admit the real reasoning why you want the season over. Just admit you want to laugh at Liverpool and would find it funny if they were denied the title. Hiding behind the pandemic situation and the “legitimacy” of it all is just a load of old cobblers mate

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