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posted on 3/5/20

comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
What matters is a precedent has been set that it's ok for a PL team to play their home games at more than one venue

Cheers spurs
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Yes, with their fans in attendance
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with or without fans the precedent has been set

posted on 3/5/20

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 8 minutes ago
Oh be quiet Mamba.

The only thing I said in my comment about you was to highlight who you are. No more than that.


I have no interest in discussing anything with you because you are a waste of time. You’re nothing but a poster who continually gets banned. And gets banned for a reason.

And you’ll be banned again soon enough.

Robbing can speak for himself.
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Het Ripleys, hope youre well.

Tbh it was a dig at Billy for continually chatting shiiiiiiiit and being utterly biased as per. I find him moronic.

In summary I dont really have an opinion on all this. If they void it fine, if they don't fine. I dont really see any winners here.

posted on 3/5/20

comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sergio Marquina (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 minute ago
Did Mamba get banned again? You can usually tell it's him by the multiple replies.
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He’s been banned twice and came back on another account since yesterday. He’ll be done for soon enough.
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Hi Sergio. I don't know who this Mamba lad is. In case you cant read my name is Shijiu. Mamba sounds like a baaaaad man, this is the fourth time you've brought him up, he's in most of your posts today. Sounds like you hate his guts and seeing him around the place. Perhaps if you see him just keep complaining to admin. Just keep plugging away, he'll have to get the message at some point the caaaaant
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Did this sound funny in your head?

comment by Shijiu (U22385)

posted on 3/5/20

comment by Sergio Marquina (U11781)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sergio Marquina (U11781)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 1 minute ago
Did Mamba get banned again? You can usually tell it's him by the multiple replies.
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He’s been banned twice and came back on another account since yesterday. He’ll be done for soon enough.
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Hi Sergio. I don't know who this Mamba lad is. In case you cant read my name is Shijiu. Mamba sounds like a baaaaad man, this is the fourth time you've brought him up, he's in most of your posts today. Sounds like you hate his guts and seeing him around the place. Perhaps if you see him just keep complaining to admin. Just keep plugging away, he'll have to get the message at some point the caaaaant
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Did this sound funny in your head?
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No. Why?

posted on 3/5/20

comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
What matters is a precedent has been set that it's ok for a PL team to play their home games at more than one venue

Cheers spurs
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Yes, with their fans in attendance
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with or without fans the precedent has been set
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Whether a precedent has been set or not isn't the bigger issue that no crowd, neutral venues and no relegation will be tragic and isn't worth watchinhg?

Of course Liverpool fans want the season finished under any circumstances so they will be ok with this farce.

comment by Shijiu (U22385)

posted on 3/5/20

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
What matters is a precedent has been set that it's ok for a PL team to play their home games at more than one venue

Cheers spurs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, with their fans in attendance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
with or without fans the precedent has been set
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whether a precedent has been set or not isn't the bigger issue that no crowd, neutral venues and no relegation will be tragic and isn't worth watchinhg?

Of course Liverpool fans want the season finished under any circumstances so they will be ok with this farce.
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Hi Paul.

If the football resumes we will know whether its worth watching judging from the number of subscriptions sold by TV companies. They've lost a lot of subscribers right now. I honestly suspect demand for these games will be the highest we will have seen in a while and they could be able to recoup some of their losses.

posted on 3/5/20

Robbing, I’m well thanks. Hope you and your family are too.

Don’t you think that your perception of Billy’s comments could come from a place of bias also?

We can all be guilty of that.

I just don’t see the comparison between spurs’ stadium situation and the current situation regarding Covid.

And even if there is a comparison, akin to being even a little bit hypocritical, then does that mean that Billy is wrong in his assessment of the Covid situation, or does it mean that was wrong in his opinion regarding Spurs stadium situation?

Or are the two situations not really comparable at all?

posted on 3/5/20

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
What matters is a precedent has been set that it's ok for a PL team to play their home games at more than one venue

Cheers spurs
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Yes, with their fans in attendance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
with or without fans the precedent has been set
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whether a precedent has been set or not isn't the bigger issue that no crowd, neutral venues and no relegation will be tragic and isn't worth watchinhg?

Of course Liverpool fans want the season finished under any circumstances so they will be ok with this farce.
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I don't see this no relegation thing happening if we do commence playing in the next few months.

If we do cancel the season I can see it happening.potentially, we will know more Friday I guess.

posted on 3/5/20

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 9 minutes ago
Robbing, I’m well thanks. Hope you and your family are too.

Don’t you think that your perception of Billy’s comments could come from a place of bias also?

We can all be guilty of that.

I just don’t see the comparison between spurs’ stadium situation and the current situation regarding Covid.

And even if there is a comparison, akin to being even a little bit hypocritical, then does that mean that Billy is wrong in his assessment of the Covid situation, or does it mean that was wrong in his opinion regarding Spurs stadium situation?

Or are the two situations not really comparable at all?


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Billy is well known for his agenda.

posted on 3/5/20

comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
What matters is a precedent has been set that it's ok for a PL team to play their home games at more than one venue

Cheers spurs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, with their fans in attendance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
with or without fans the precedent has been set
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whether a precedent has been set or not isn't the bigger issue that no crowd, neutral venues and no relegation will be tragic and isn't worth watchinhg?

Of course Liverpool fans want the season finished under any circumstances so they will be ok with this farce.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Paul.

If the football resumes we will know whether its worth watching judging from the number of subscriptions sold by TV companies. They've lost a lot of subscribers right now. I honestly suspect demand for these games will be the highest we will have seen in a while and they could be able to recoup some of their losses.
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I hear you mate and I'm sure Sky/BT will be gagging to get anything live they can onto our screens.

I just think it will be an awful spectacle and I'm not missing footie enough to want it back under these circumstances. However if Spurs were 25 points clear I might be keener.

comment by Shijiu (U22385)

posted on 3/5/20

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
What matters is a precedent has been set that it's ok for a PL team to play their home games at more than one venue

Cheers spurs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, with their fans in attendance
----------------------------------------------------------------------
with or without fans the precedent has been set
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whether a precedent has been set or not isn't the bigger issue that no crowd, neutral venues and no relegation will be tragic and isn't worth watchinhg?

Of course Liverpool fans want the season finished under any circumstances so they will be ok with this farce.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Paul.

If the football resumes we will know whether its worth watching judging from the number of subscriptions sold by TV companies. They've lost a lot of subscribers right now. I honestly suspect demand for these games will be the highest we will have seen in a while and they could be able to recoup some of their losses.
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I hear you mate and I'm sure Sky/BT will be gagging to get anything live they can onto our screens.

I just think it will be an awful spectacle and I'm not missing footie enough to want it back under these circumstances. However if Spurs were 25 points clear I might be keener.
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It will be much poorer than usual, but not awful. I think it will be especially so at the start but if its seen to be working for a couple of weeks, and let's say United and co. drop a few points to allow Spurs a chance for 5th place etc. I can see teams really starting to go for it.

posted on 3/5/20

Top 4/5 looks like it could go down to wire, same with relegation

I can’t wait to get some sports back on the box providing it’s safe.

posted on 3/5/20

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 29 minutes ago
Robbing, I’m well thanks. Hope you and your family are too.

Don’t you think that your perception of Billy’s comments could come from a place of bias also?

We can all be guilty of that.

I just don’t see the comparison between spurs’ stadium situation and the current situation regarding Covid.

And even if there is a comparison, akin to being even a little bit hypocritical, then does that mean that Billy is wrong in his assessment of the Covid situation, or does it mean that was wrong in his opinion regarding Spurs stadium situation?

Or are the two situations not really comparable at all?
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I take your point and yes it's a little weak but contexually it was more about Billy constantly being anti Liverpool to the piint it's just weird. I found a certain irony in him talking about integrity as a result as he has none.

I have little to no doubt if Spurs were where Liverpool are then he'd be saying something entirely different.

Personally if they void it fine, if not fine. Im no pot chaser these dats and games like the 5-4 Norwich or the Dortmund game are the reason I watch football.

comment by Shijiu (U22385)

posted on 3/5/20

comment by The Gaffer (U22336)
posted 5 minutes ago
Top 4/5 looks like it could go down to wire, same with relegation

I can’t wait to get some sports back on the box providing it’s safe.
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Agreed. There may be no fans but players will still want to play in the CL or not get relegated.

posted on 3/5/20

I don’t think it should be voided. It must be frustrating and the whole situation has diluted everything, but we can’t lose sight of how dominant Liverpool have been this season.

Even if it is voided, no one should lose sight of what actually has happened in that respect.

As far as Billy is concerned, and the poster “Firmino” hinted at this earlier, then just don’t engage with him and his “agenda”.

But, irrespective of his Agenda and indeed reputation, he makes a point that shouldn’t be dismissed because of his perceived agenda. Dismiss it on its own merits instead. More credit to be had that way.

posted on 3/5/20

comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 3 minutes ago
I don’t think it should be voided. It must be frustrating and the whole situation has diluted everything, but we can’t lose sight of how dominant Liverpool have been this season.

Even if it is voided, no one should lose sight of what actually has happened in that respect.

As far as Billy is concerned, and the poster “Firmino” hinted at this earlier, then just don’t engage with him and his “agenda”.

But, irrespective of his Agenda and indeed reputation, he makes a point that shouldn’t be dismissed because of his perceived agenda. Dismiss it on its own merits instead. More credit to be had that way.
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Nah I like highlighting his bollox. Everyone is different Ripleys yknow?

comment by Mattyp (U8926)

posted on 4/5/20

Cant blame clubs for wanting this.

Getting relegated is such a financial hit that clubs will do all they can to stop it.

Add to that covid money loses and it's hardly surprising clubs will do everything they can to stay in the league.

posted on 4/5/20

Yes everyone look after their own self interest.

I'm almost looking forward to Sky building up the excitement for Norwich v Brighton in an empty stadium with nothing on the outcome.

Would you bother to watch?

posted on 4/5/20

comment by JackCharlton (U19203)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago

Yes everyone look after their own self interest.

I'm almost looking forward to Sky building up the excitement for Norwich v Brighton in an empty stadium with nothing on the outcome.

Would you bother to watch?

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yeah, but only because have Cantwell in my fantasy team - he's got some decent points in the fantasy league this year

posted on 4/5/20

they can easily reduce the number of games required to finish the season. just don't play any games that won't affect European or relegation places.

eg. if a team cannot mathematically be relegated, it doesn't play any remaining games against any other team that also cannot mathematically be relegated.
same for European places.
eg for Liverpool, they only play any of their remaining games against teams that can still be relegated, or can still qualify for Europe.
if eg the team currently in 10th and 11th are still to play each other, but neither can reach Europe, or get relegated, the game is voided.
league positions/points are updated only in regards to possible Europe/relegation.

it won't make a lot of difference as the season restarts, but as each round progresses, more and more matches will not need to be played.

it doesn't really make much difference for teams being placed 9th or 15th at the end of the season, apart from tv money allocated on league position, I believe it's £1/2M difference for each league position
that's easily fixed. for this season only. that part of the money is paid equally regardless of final position

this way could also free up time/space to complete remaining domestic cup games.

posted on 4/5/20

But that would mean games being postponed at short notice, as teams become mathematically safe or unable to qualify for Europe.

posted on 4/5/20

and? it's not like fans are going to be inconvenienced travelling to an abandoned game.....

so, there'll be a few less games on tv, if they're shown anyway, considering most people on here are complaining about it won't work watching televised games in empty stadiums, then losing something so many are saying won't work anyway seems an acceptable loss. especially considering the increased safety it provides the players/staff, and more tests available for essential workers/general public, it again, seems like an acceptable compromise.

with careful scheduling, there'd be no need to abandon any games during the current round, so teams will have anything from several days a full week or more to realise their next game would be unneccessary, further mitigating unneeded travelling.

comment by Mattyp (U8926)

posted on 4/5/20

comment by The Spanish Italians - its all going to end in tears (U21595)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by JackCharlton (U19203)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago

Yes everyone look after their own self interest.

I'm almost looking forward to Sky building up the excitement for Norwich v Brighton in an empty stadium with nothing on the outcome.

Would you bother to watch?

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yeah, but only because have Cantwell in my fantasy team - he's got some decent points in the fantasy league this year
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at the moment i think i'd watch any game of football I could...

Also bare in mind how fans havent seen there team in weeks now.

I'd hazard a guess that viewing figures for that game would be higher than normal

posted on 4/5/20

comment by 19th title coming soon. (U12879)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
they can easily reduce the number of games required to finish the season. just don't play any games that won't affect European or relegation places.

eg. if a team cannot mathematically be relegated, it doesn't play any remaining games against any other team that also cannot mathematically be relegated.
same for European places.
eg for Liverpool, they only play any of their remaining games against teams that can still be relegated, or can still qualify for Europe.
if eg the team currently in 10th and 11th are still to play each other, but neither can reach Europe, or get relegated, the game is voided.
league positions/points are updated only in regards to possible Europe/relegation.

it won't make a lot of difference as the season restarts, but as each round progresses, more and more matches will not need to be played.

it doesn't really make much difference for teams being placed 9th or 15th at the end of the season, apart from tv money allocated on league position, I believe it's £1/2M difference for each league position
that's easily fixed. for this season only. that part of the money is paid equally regardless of final position

this way could also free up time/space to complete remaining domestic cup games.
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Players need to be playing regularly. You could have one team sat doing nothing for 3 weeks depending on their fixtures, then they're expected to be fully match fit to perform in a game that is crucial to either end of the table.

There's the issue of bonuses players earn as well. Players are not going to vote to lose thousands of pounds in appearance, clean sheet, goal bonuses, etc.

On to the next barmy idea...

posted on 4/5/20

There's the issue of bonuses players earn as well. Players are not going to vote to lose thousands of pounds in appearance, clean sheet, goal bonuses, etc.



and how many of those do you think they're going to get it the FA/league decide they can't fit all the remaining games into the timespan available? or cancel/void the league completely.
as it stands right now, those players would be gaining, not losing out. and there are some players claiming that lots of players are scared about playing again soon. so yes, the may well be plenty of players willing to vote to play less games.

as for teams sat doing nothing for weeks depending on fixtures, like I said, it would require careful scheduling, but if scheduled on a round-by-round basis rather than all remaining games scheduled upfront, then that very scenario can, if not avoided completely, then certainly minimised to the point where they shouldn't be required to sit out more than 1 round consecutively.

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