comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 9 minutes ago
this is all to mask the shortcomings on the pitch
nothing more nothing less
nobody cares about the governance
Thistle/Hearts etc weren't caring about an investigation until the reconstruction plans were booted into touch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the crux of it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you think they should accept relegation with a quarter of the season to go?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A quarter of the season? We had 8 games to play.
I have some sympathy with the relegated teams, not an easy situation but the cost of null and void made it too risky.
As has been shown in France, soon to be England and Belgium.
Only Holland has declared the season null and void, mainly because it was tight all over the league.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are the financial consequences of null and void?
Pretty sure they are the same as calling as is.
https://www.stenhousemuirfc.com/2020/05/12/statement-on-the-spfl-egm/
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 1 minute ago
this is all to mask the shortcomings on the pitch
nothing more nothing less
nobody cares about the governance
Thistle/Hearts etc weren't caring about an investigation until the reconstruction plans were booted into touch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Said before-if you take out the clubs who are genuinely losing out in some meaningful way, then those are the clubs to listen to. Rangers apart clearly, because their motives have been questionable since day 1.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it questionable to accept the governance we have?
It's even more questionable to accept poor governance, especially when you are paying a significant amount of money for said governance.
Only those with something to hide would fear an independent investigation..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Should always question it. But, see when you’ve questioned it and got your answers, it’s time to stop digging.
Some of the problems we’re having in Scotland will be replicated throughout other countries, and some will have different ones. Very few aren’t going to have clubs moaning about the final outcome.
People are still moaning about things that are wrong. They shouldn’t have ended the season. The season still hasn’t ended, and won’t end until the premiership teams agree that. That was in the initial resolution from the SPFL. That resolution was about being able to give the lower league teams their money, and let them start making plans.
But, rangers couldn’t be seen to let that ride. They had to make sure their fans knew they wouldn’t be found wanting.
They dove straight in on the back of those WhatsApp messages, and thought they had a winning card for bullying and coercion. Doesn’t look like that now-and it didn’t look like it either in the innuendo dossier of no evidence.
We’ve spent weeks pandering to a club just looking to appease some of its fans rather than looking for solutions. A club that has no real skin in the game either! And let’s not kid on this has anything to do with some altruistic reason for rangers and corporate governance. Of all the clubs to talk about corporate governance-seriously?!
I’ve been pretty consistent in this-I think mistakes have been made, I don’t think there’s a need for suspensions, I think there should be an open review carried out and for everyone to learn from it.
But I also now think that if half the stuff that’s came out from Brechin and Dunfermline over the last couple of days is true, then ICT and rangers could and should be up for charges over their conduct.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
the way things have been reported as well has been a complete disgrace
Tom English has nailed his colours to the mass in a way which I dont think I've ever seen a journalist in this country do before
which totally goes against the impartiality he's supposed to have on being an employee of the BBC
the one sided reporting, the failure to pick up on statements from Dunfermline Brechin etc which go against his narrative
not happy at anyone showing up his wee pal Gardiner for what he is
a shambles
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 9 minutes ago
this is all to mask the shortcomings on the pitch
nothing more nothing less
nobody cares about the governance
Thistle/Hearts etc weren't caring about an investigation until the reconstruction plans were booted into touch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the crux of it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you think they should accept relegation with a quarter of the season to go?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A quarter of the season? We had 8 games to play.
I have some sympathy with the relegated teams, not an easy situation but the cost of null and void made it too risky.
As has been shown in France, soon to be England and Belgium.
Only Holland has declared the season null and void, mainly because it was tight all over the league.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are the financial consequences of null and void?
Pretty sure they are the same as calling as is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They're not.
Null and void means fans get full refunds, sponsors get every penny back and TV companies receive full payments back to them.
Calling as is means tv companies may call in a portion of the funds.
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 9 minutes ago
this is all to mask the shortcomings on the pitch
nothing more nothing less
nobody cares about the governance
Thistle/Hearts etc weren't caring about an investigation until the reconstruction plans were booted into touch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the crux of it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you think they should accept relegation with a quarter of the season to go?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A quarter of the season? We had 8 games to play.
I have some sympathy with the relegated teams, not an easy situation but the cost of null and void made it too risky.
As has been shown in France, soon to be England and Belgium.
Only Holland has declared the season null and void, mainly because it was tight all over the league.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are the financial consequences of null and void?
Pretty sure they are the same as calling as is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell that to the English FA, the EPL and UEFA then. They all completely disagree. It’s like the folk running the game know more some times.
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 9 minutes ago
this is all to mask the shortcomings on the pitch
nothing more nothing less
nobody cares about the governance
Thistle/Hearts etc weren't caring about an investigation until the reconstruction plans were booted into touch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the crux of it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you think they should accept relegation with a quarter of the season to go?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A quarter of the season? We had 8 games to play.
I have some sympathy with the relegated teams, not an easy situation but the cost of null and void made it too risky.
As has been shown in France, soon to be England and Belgium.
Only Holland has declared the season null and void, mainly because it was tight all over the league.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are the financial consequences of null and void?
Pretty sure they are the same as calling as is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They're not.
Null and void means fans get full refunds, sponsors get every penny back and TV companies receive full payments back to them.
Calling as is means tv companies may call in a portion of the funds.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Source for that?
Tom English is as anti Rangers journalist as you’ll get...
I now believe we need a full investigation.
Not only on the SPFL handing of all of this but also into the conduct and statements of a number of clubs along with the accusations flying around with no proof or evidence.
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 9 minutes ago
this is all to mask the shortcomings on the pitch
nothing more nothing less
nobody cares about the governance
Thistle/Hearts etc weren't caring about an investigation until the reconstruction plans were booted into touch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the crux of it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you think they should accept relegation with a quarter of the season to go?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A quarter of the season? We had 8 games to play.
I have some sympathy with the relegated teams, not an easy situation but the cost of null and void made it too risky.
As has been shown in France, soon to be England and Belgium.
Only Holland has declared the season null and void, mainly because it was tight all over the league.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are the financial consequences of null and void?
Pretty sure they are the same as calling as is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They're not.
Null and void means fans get full refunds, sponsors get every penny back and TV companies receive full payments back to them.
Calling as is means tv companies may call in a portion of the funds.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Source for that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You kidding? It's been reported everywhere ffs
All major leagues have confirmed as such too.
The English FA had to step in yesterday because they're terrified of the amounts that would need repaid if Null and Void was considered.
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 41 seconds ago
Tom English is as anti Rangers journalist as you’ll get...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's best pals with Scott Gardiner though who is very pro Rangers.
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 59 seconds ago
Tom English is as anti Rangers journalist as you’ll get...
WAS
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
I now believe we need a full investigation.
Not only on the SPFL handing of all of this but also into the conduct and statements of a number of clubs along with the accusations flying around with no proof or evidence.
I hope Celtic come out and fully back the investigation...
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 1 minute ago
Tom English is as anti Rangers journalist as you’ll get...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom English isn’t backing rangers-he’s backing Anne Budge for some mysterious reason. As such, he’s had to support rangers resolution because it’s the only viable option open to them.
That’s what’s made his views one sided-him and Ewan Murray, the Hearts fan.
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 41 seconds ago
Tom English is as anti Rangers journalist as you’ll get...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's best pals with Scott Gardiner though who is very pro Rangers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There’s a few who are clearly not pro Rangers who back an investigation.
‘ but instead we believe that everyone involved in Scottish football needs to look in the mirror and ask themselves if they honestly believe that the culture and governance in our league setup is working as effectively as it should for the benefit of all its members? ’
Sums it up for me.
Maybe I’ll use the ‘aye but I don’t like who asked’ excuse next time someone tried to audit me
why did Stenhousmuir vote Yes then to end the season?
now all these clubs who were happy to vote Yes and get the money are coming out the woodwork
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
I now believe we need a full investigation.
Not only on the SPFL handing of all of this but also into the conduct and statements of a number of clubs along with the accusations flying around with no proof or evidence.
I hope Celtic come out and fully back the investigation...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Absolutely
Not long ago Tom English had his articles plastered all over here and was seen as a great journo.
Then again we used to read about sporting integrity on here too
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 41 seconds ago
Tom English is as anti Rangers journalist as you’ll get...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's best pals with Scott Gardiner though who is very pro Rangers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There’s a few who are clearly not pro Rangers who back an investigation.
‘ but instead we believe that everyone involved in Scottish football needs to look in the mirror and ask themselves if they honestly believe that the culture and governance in our league setup is working as effectively as it should for the benefit of all its members? ’
Sums it up for me.
Maybe I’ll use the ‘aye but I don’t like who asked’ excuse next time someone tried to audit me
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unsure why that's relevant to English being close to Gardiner but ok
Let's be honest. Rangers saw null and void as a way to save something from what had been a disastrous season. If clubs agreed to null and void Gers fans would be celebrating. Celtic fans have lost out on what looked like being a memorable end to the season, the title was a certainty and we were hot favourites for a 4th treble. That's the true reason behind Ranger's action.
comment by An s&m Lauders (U9757)
posted 3 seconds ago
Not long ago Tom English had his articles plastered all over here and was seen as a great journo.
Then again we used to read about sporting integrity on here too
----------------------------------------------------------------------
English said VVD was over-rated, he was never seen as a great journo
comment by An s&m Lauders (U9757)
posted 4 seconds ago
Not long ago Tom English had his articles plastered all over here and was seen as a great journo.
Then again we used to read about sporting integrity on here too
Englishs rugby stuff is top quality i think this is why everyone it's shocked at his behaviour/stance
To be fair on them that's probably the most sensible statement I've seen in this whole Saga.
What skin do they have in the game btw genuinely no idea if they were in a promotion or relegation spot
comment by Irvine No5* (U1006)
posted 3 seconds ago
Let's be honest. Rangers saw null and void as a way to save something from what had been a disastrous season. If clubs agreed to null and void Gers fans would be celebrating. Celtic fans have lost out on what looked like being a memorable end to the season, the title was a certainty and we were hot favourites for a 4th treble. That's the true reason behind Ranger's action.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indeed, motives are clear.
Meanwhile, Celtic tweeted some lovely new green grass yesterday, blissful
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posted on 12/5/20
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 9 minutes ago
this is all to mask the shortcomings on the pitch
nothing more nothing less
nobody cares about the governance
Thistle/Hearts etc weren't caring about an investigation until the reconstruction plans were booted into touch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the crux of it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you think they should accept relegation with a quarter of the season to go?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A quarter of the season? We had 8 games to play.
I have some sympathy with the relegated teams, not an easy situation but the cost of null and void made it too risky.
As has been shown in France, soon to be England and Belgium.
Only Holland has declared the season null and void, mainly because it was tight all over the league.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are the financial consequences of null and void?
Pretty sure they are the same as calling as is.
posted on 12/5/20
https://www.stenhousemuirfc.com/2020/05/12/statement-on-the-spfl-egm/
posted on 12/5/20
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 1 minute ago
this is all to mask the shortcomings on the pitch
nothing more nothing less
nobody cares about the governance
Thistle/Hearts etc weren't caring about an investigation until the reconstruction plans were booted into touch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Said before-if you take out the clubs who are genuinely losing out in some meaningful way, then those are the clubs to listen to. Rangers apart clearly, because their motives have been questionable since day 1.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it questionable to accept the governance we have?
It's even more questionable to accept poor governance, especially when you are paying a significant amount of money for said governance.
Only those with something to hide would fear an independent investigation..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Should always question it. But, see when you’ve questioned it and got your answers, it’s time to stop digging.
Some of the problems we’re having in Scotland will be replicated throughout other countries, and some will have different ones. Very few aren’t going to have clubs moaning about the final outcome.
People are still moaning about things that are wrong. They shouldn’t have ended the season. The season still hasn’t ended, and won’t end until the premiership teams agree that. That was in the initial resolution from the SPFL. That resolution was about being able to give the lower league teams their money, and let them start making plans.
But, rangers couldn’t be seen to let that ride. They had to make sure their fans knew they wouldn’t be found wanting.
They dove straight in on the back of those WhatsApp messages, and thought they had a winning card for bullying and coercion. Doesn’t look like that now-and it didn’t look like it either in the innuendo dossier of no evidence.
We’ve spent weeks pandering to a club just looking to appease some of its fans rather than looking for solutions. A club that has no real skin in the game either! And let’s not kid on this has anything to do with some altruistic reason for rangers and corporate governance. Of all the clubs to talk about corporate governance-seriously?!
I’ve been pretty consistent in this-I think mistakes have been made, I don’t think there’s a need for suspensions, I think there should be an open review carried out and for everyone to learn from it.
But I also now think that if half the stuff that’s came out from Brechin and Dunfermline over the last couple of days is true, then ICT and rangers could and should be up for charges over their conduct.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 12/5/20
the way things have been reported as well has been a complete disgrace
Tom English has nailed his colours to the mass in a way which I dont think I've ever seen a journalist in this country do before
which totally goes against the impartiality he's supposed to have on being an employee of the BBC
the one sided reporting, the failure to pick up on statements from Dunfermline Brechin etc which go against his narrative
not happy at anyone showing up his wee pal Gardiner for what he is
a shambles
posted on 12/5/20
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 9 minutes ago
this is all to mask the shortcomings on the pitch
nothing more nothing less
nobody cares about the governance
Thistle/Hearts etc weren't caring about an investigation until the reconstruction plans were booted into touch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the crux of it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you think they should accept relegation with a quarter of the season to go?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A quarter of the season? We had 8 games to play.
I have some sympathy with the relegated teams, not an easy situation but the cost of null and void made it too risky.
As has been shown in France, soon to be England and Belgium.
Only Holland has declared the season null and void, mainly because it was tight all over the league.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are the financial consequences of null and void?
Pretty sure they are the same as calling as is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They're not.
Null and void means fans get full refunds, sponsors get every penny back and TV companies receive full payments back to them.
Calling as is means tv companies may call in a portion of the funds.
posted on 12/5/20
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 9 minutes ago
this is all to mask the shortcomings on the pitch
nothing more nothing less
nobody cares about the governance
Thistle/Hearts etc weren't caring about an investigation until the reconstruction plans were booted into touch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the crux of it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you think they should accept relegation with a quarter of the season to go?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A quarter of the season? We had 8 games to play.
I have some sympathy with the relegated teams, not an easy situation but the cost of null and void made it too risky.
As has been shown in France, soon to be England and Belgium.
Only Holland has declared the season null and void, mainly because it was tight all over the league.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are the financial consequences of null and void?
Pretty sure they are the same as calling as is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell that to the English FA, the EPL and UEFA then. They all completely disagree. It’s like the folk running the game know more some times.
posted on 12/5/20
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 9 minutes ago
this is all to mask the shortcomings on the pitch
nothing more nothing less
nobody cares about the governance
Thistle/Hearts etc weren't caring about an investigation until the reconstruction plans were booted into touch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the crux of it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you think they should accept relegation with a quarter of the season to go?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A quarter of the season? We had 8 games to play.
I have some sympathy with the relegated teams, not an easy situation but the cost of null and void made it too risky.
As has been shown in France, soon to be England and Belgium.
Only Holland has declared the season null and void, mainly because it was tight all over the league.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are the financial consequences of null and void?
Pretty sure they are the same as calling as is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They're not.
Null and void means fans get full refunds, sponsors get every penny back and TV companies receive full payments back to them.
Calling as is means tv companies may call in a portion of the funds.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Source for that?
posted on 12/5/20
Tom English is as anti Rangers journalist as you’ll get...
posted on 12/5/20
I now believe we need a full investigation.
Not only on the SPFL handing of all of this but also into the conduct and statements of a number of clubs along with the accusations flying around with no proof or evidence.
posted on 12/5/20
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - Banana Lawyer (U14864)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 9 minutes ago
this is all to mask the shortcomings on the pitch
nothing more nothing less
nobody cares about the governance
Thistle/Hearts etc weren't caring about an investigation until the reconstruction plans were booted into touch
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the crux of it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you think they should accept relegation with a quarter of the season to go?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A quarter of the season? We had 8 games to play.
I have some sympathy with the relegated teams, not an easy situation but the cost of null and void made it too risky.
As has been shown in France, soon to be England and Belgium.
Only Holland has declared the season null and void, mainly because it was tight all over the league.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What are the financial consequences of null and void?
Pretty sure they are the same as calling as is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They're not.
Null and void means fans get full refunds, sponsors get every penny back and TV companies receive full payments back to them.
Calling as is means tv companies may call in a portion of the funds.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Source for that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You kidding? It's been reported everywhere ffs
All major leagues have confirmed as such too.
The English FA had to step in yesterday because they're terrified of the amounts that would need repaid if Null and Void was considered.
posted on 12/5/20
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 41 seconds ago
Tom English is as anti Rangers journalist as you’ll get...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's best pals with Scott Gardiner though who is very pro Rangers.
posted on 12/5/20
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 59 seconds ago
Tom English is as anti Rangers journalist as you’ll get...
WAS
posted on 12/5/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
I now believe we need a full investigation.
Not only on the SPFL handing of all of this but also into the conduct and statements of a number of clubs along with the accusations flying around with no proof or evidence.
I hope Celtic come out and fully back the investigation...
posted on 12/5/20
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 1 minute ago
Tom English is as anti Rangers journalist as you’ll get...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom English isn’t backing rangers-he’s backing Anne Budge for some mysterious reason. As such, he’s had to support rangers resolution because it’s the only viable option open to them.
That’s what’s made his views one sided-him and Ewan Murray, the Hearts fan.
posted on 12/5/20
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 41 seconds ago
Tom English is as anti Rangers journalist as you’ll get...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's best pals with Scott Gardiner though who is very pro Rangers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There’s a few who are clearly not pro Rangers who back an investigation.
‘ but instead we believe that everyone involved in Scottish football needs to look in the mirror and ask themselves if they honestly believe that the culture and governance in our league setup is working as effectively as it should for the benefit of all its members? ’
Sums it up for me.
Maybe I’ll use the ‘aye but I don’t like who asked’ excuse next time someone tried to audit me
posted on 12/5/20
why did Stenhousmuir vote Yes then to end the season?
posted on 12/5/20
now all these clubs who were happy to vote Yes and get the money are coming out the woodwork
posted on 12/5/20
comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
I now believe we need a full investigation.
Not only on the SPFL handing of all of this but also into the conduct and statements of a number of clubs along with the accusations flying around with no proof or evidence.
I hope Celtic come out and fully back the investigation...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Absolutely
posted on 12/5/20
Not long ago Tom English had his articles plastered all over here and was seen as a great journo.
Then again we used to read about sporting integrity on here too
posted on 12/5/20
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 41 seconds ago
Tom English is as anti Rangers journalist as you’ll get...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's best pals with Scott Gardiner though who is very pro Rangers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There’s a few who are clearly not pro Rangers who back an investigation.
‘ but instead we believe that everyone involved in Scottish football needs to look in the mirror and ask themselves if they honestly believe that the culture and governance in our league setup is working as effectively as it should for the benefit of all its members? ’
Sums it up for me.
Maybe I’ll use the ‘aye but I don’t like who asked’ excuse next time someone tried to audit me
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unsure why that's relevant to English being close to Gardiner but ok
posted on 12/5/20
Let's be honest. Rangers saw null and void as a way to save something from what had been a disastrous season. If clubs agreed to null and void Gers fans would be celebrating. Celtic fans have lost out on what looked like being a memorable end to the season, the title was a certainty and we were hot favourites for a 4th treble. That's the true reason behind Ranger's action.
posted on 12/5/20
comment by An s&m Lauders (U9757)
posted 3 seconds ago
Not long ago Tom English had his articles plastered all over here and was seen as a great journo.
Then again we used to read about sporting integrity on here too
----------------------------------------------------------------------
English said VVD was over-rated, he was never seen as a great journo
posted on 12/5/20
comment by An s&m Lauders (U9757)
posted 4 seconds ago
Not long ago Tom English had his articles plastered all over here and was seen as a great journo.
Then again we used to read about sporting integrity on here too
Englishs rugby stuff is top quality i think this is why everyone it's shocked at his behaviour/stance
posted on 12/5/20
To be fair on them that's probably the most sensible statement I've seen in this whole Saga.
What skin do they have in the game btw genuinely no idea if they were in a promotion or relegation spot
posted on 12/5/20
comment by Irvine No5* (U1006)
posted 3 seconds ago
Let's be honest. Rangers saw null and void as a way to save something from what had been a disastrous season. If clubs agreed to null and void Gers fans would be celebrating. Celtic fans have lost out on what looked like being a memorable end to the season, the title was a certainty and we were hot favourites for a 4th treble. That's the true reason behind Ranger's action.
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Indeed, motives are clear.
Meanwhile, Celtic tweeted some lovely new green grass yesterday, blissful
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