Similar to Brighton - club that is currently outside relegation zone but on a terrible run. I'd bet on both those teams going down, they want the season ended now either way on points or voided as that's the only way they are staying up.
Really hope we can play our remaining games.
Teams will be where they deserve to be in the league after 46 games and then can have no arguments.
To be honest it's fairly obvious these teams will be the first to call for voiding leagues, as they are set to go down on unfair terms.
It's not a level playing field anymore this season.
Teams fighting for things (like me own) will be more keen to carry on, that doesn't mean they truly believe the competition is a fair reflection of all the teams though.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 8 minutes ago
To be honest it's fairly obvious these teams will be the first to call for voiding leagues, as they are set to go down on unfair terms.
It's not a level playing field anymore this season.
Teams fighting for things (like me own) will be more keen to carry on, that doesn't mean they truly believe the competition is a fair reflection of all the teams though.
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Are the current circumstances the same for every team.
Neutral venues is same for everyone.
No supporters in stadium is same for everyone.
League is 80% completed.
I dont want PPG. I want season played to a finish.
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 8 minutes ago
To be honest it's fairly obvious these teams will be the first to call for voiding leagues, as they are set to go down on unfair terms.
It's not a level playing field anymore this season.
Teams fighting for things (like me own) will be more keen to carry on, that doesn't mean they truly believe the competition is a fair reflection of all the teams though.
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Are the current circumstances the same for every team.
> No because some teams will have had home advantage, some won't.
Neutral venues is same for everyone.
> It is in terms of the remaining games, not those before it
No supporters in stadium is same for everyone.
> Same as above
League is 80% completed.
> Yes it is
I dont want PPG. I want season played to a finish.
> Most people do
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 42 minutes ago
Really hope we can play our remaining games.
Teams will be where they deserve to be in the league after 46 games and then can have no arguments.
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That is totally bang on 👍🏼
Germany played their games at home venues this weekend!..
That takes the unfair debate away from those that don't want the neutral stadiums!..
And people saying they wont watch football because its crap not being there or empty stadiums take the spirit out of the game!..
Sky broke records for football figures this weekend and made a fortune out of people having to stay at home and watch it on the box!..
TV will make its money!..
And they've relaxed the shutdown to allow people in to pubs/sports bars, they can only sit 4 or 6 at tables for 10 or 12 people and the keeping distance rule is very strict!..
And you leave your name and address at the door in case anyone falls undetected through the net!..
The teams at the top have been the best for 80% of season.
The teams at bottom have been dire for 80% of season.
Tough.
Home advantage hasnt helped for all of seadon so far. If it had they wouldnt be in bottom 3.
If this virus had come in september october then yeah voiding season would not be an issue for most including me.
But 80% of season? Come on.
For football in its current format to survive then it has to go back to playing with these health risks just like us who need to work to be able to support our families.
If season is voided then a new one has to start asap for clubs to survive. Same restrictions and risks as there is now.
End of the day i will argue to suit my agenda and my teams interests.
Just like you are arguing for your own teams interests and your own agenda.
Powers that be will decide.
What will be will be.
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 10 minutes ago
The teams at the top have been the best for 80% of season.
The teams at bottom have been dire for 80% of season.
Tough.
Home advantage hasnt helped for all of seadon so far. If it had they wouldnt be in bottom 3.
If this virus had come in september october then yeah voiding season would not be an issue for most including me.
But 80% of season? Come on.
For football in its current format to survive then it has to go back to playing with these health risks just like us who need to work to be able to support our families.
If season is voided then a new one has to start asap for clubs to survive. Same restrictions and risks as there is now.
End of the day i will argue to suit my agenda and my teams interests.
Just like you are arguing for your own teams interests and your own agenda.
Powers that be will decide.
What will be will be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
very true. the only unfair thing that could have happened in my view would have been to void the season. voiding would only appease the teams having dreadful seasons. if Leeds now go on to not get promoted ,i'll say fair result. but i'll be really p'ed off.
If Leeds play out the remaining fixtures and fail to get promotion I'll be totally gutted, but I won't be saying it's unfair and I won't be saying "we should have gone on PPG".
There's a risk of failure wherever there's a chance of success. It doesn't mean that the end result is unfair.
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 3 minutes ago
If Leeds play out the remaining fixtures and fail to get promotion I'll be totally gutted, but I won't be saying it's unfair and I won't be saying "we should have gone on PPG".
There's a risk of failure wherever there's a chance of success. It doesn't mean that the end result is unfair.
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Completely agree.
We could balls it up for last 9 games.
But would rather win promotion and erarn it even though there is a risk.
If we ho up on PPG we would never hear the end of it.
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 3 minutes ago
If Leeds play out the remaining fixtures and fail to get promotion I'll be totally gutted, but I won't be saying it's unfair and I won't be saying "we should have gone on PPG".
There's a risk of failure wherever there's a chance of success. It doesn't mean that the end result is unfair.
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Completely agree.
We could balls it up for last 9 games.
But would rather win promotion and erarn it even though there is a risk.
If we ho up on PPG we would never hear the end of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah earn your promotion like the Mighty Villa did!
Then after we survive we can enjoy whooping your keysters next season.
..Bumble, are you not supposed to be feeding your Queen a bit of honey?..
Shame you ain't in the Championship at this moment in time, I mean it'd be worst worrying more about Div 1 than the Championship!..
Mind, maybe you can do that next season!.
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
The teams at the top have been the best for 80% of season.
The teams at bottom have been dire for 80% of season.
Tough.
Home advantage hasnt helped for all of seadon so far. If it had they wouldnt be in bottom 3.
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You're ignoring the fact games at the bottom can be 6 pointers, they don't expect to bat the teams at the top. That's not to say they can't, but they don't plan to beat the big teams as much as they do their rivals fighting the drop.
some people here not realising that teams like mancure and arsesall will have unfair advantages due to the fact they are used to playing in stadiums with no noise so will they even notice no fans there?
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
<snip>
If we ho up on PPG we would never hear the end of it.
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That almost makes me want us to go up on PPG !
They hate us anyway - let's give them some more ammo!
comment by LDL-Potato Picker and Proud (U6788)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
some people here not realising that teams like mancure and arsesall will have unfair advantages due to the fact they are used to playing in stadiums with no noise so will they even notice no fans there?
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I’ve been to elland road this season when you played shef weds. All you could hear was the owls fans so let’s not throw stones at everyone else
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
The teams at the top have been the best for 80% of season.
The teams at bottom have been dire for 80% of season.
Tough.
Home advantage hasnt helped for all of seadon so far. If it had they wouldnt be in bottom 3.
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You're ignoring the fact games at the bottom can be 6 pointers, they don't expect to bat the teams at the top. That's not to say they can't, but they don't plan to beat the big teams as much as they do their rivals fighting the drop.
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I also think it fails to take into account what 20% you have left to play.
You could, theoretically be in a situation where you are 18th 3 point behind 17th, but 17th has to play their remaining games against top half teams whereas you only have to play teams in the bottom half.
Personally I want it finished, because I dont get how points per game can be fair, when all the teams playing arnt on an even playing field
Hope Hull go down now, tigers my rrse. Id rather Leeds played the season out, whether that be successfully or failure in regards to promotion.
I fo also think that while there does have to be a certain level of cooperation with clubs themselves there does need to be also a point where the football leagues realise they are the ones running things and tell the clubs what to do and if they dont or wont then they can have the result as a three nil loss.
Clubs are always going to think in terms of their own self interest, as they should, but there gets a point where you have to say, yes you dont want to do this, but if you dont we move on without you
They were dropping like a stone, & probably on the way to relegation... Like you want to go up, they don't want to go down... This will be a legal nightmare... Can you see the bottom 5 in the Premier league making it easy to restart the season?....
Looking at it purely from a footy-fan point of view:
Voiding the season would be like giving a big middle finger to all who have paid money to watch games this season.
It's like the FA saying; if anything happens we can do whatever we please, and we don't care how much you have invested moneywise (and emotional I might add) this season.
You've paid your money. You've sat there and cheered for every goal, been grumpy for every conceded one, and in the end, for what?
For nothing. All for laughs.
End the season by playing the remaining games. It's the only way.
comment by Loidis-Norvegicus (U9680)
posted 52 minutes ago
Looking at it purely from a footy-fan point of view:
Voiding the season would be like giving a big middle finger to all who have paid money to watch games this season.
It's like the FA saying; if anything happens we can do whatever we please, and we don't care how much you have invested moneywise (and emotional I might add) this season.
You've paid your money. You've sat there and cheered for every goal, been grumpy for every conceded one, and in the end, for what?
For nothing. All for laughs.
End the season by playing the remaining games. It's the only way.
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That's exactly what the FA have already done to the clubs that don't earn them any money, yet weirdly nobody seems to care passionately about that.
Totally agree with your last sentence though.
Funny thing is the season isn't over until the last games have been played, and clubs have signed up to play the league and in doing so have to play the rules!..
If the league don't do things the way they should be done, then football may as well give up!..
This is the players living,(WAGES!)and the clubs future,(LIVES!)they should just get on with what they're contracted to do and shut the feck up!..
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posted on 19/5/20
Similar to Brighton - club that is currently outside relegation zone but on a terrible run. I'd bet on both those teams going down, they want the season ended now either way on points or voided as that's the only way they are staying up.
posted on 19/5/20
Really hope we can play our remaining games.
Teams will be where they deserve to be in the league after 46 games and then can have no arguments.
posted on 19/5/20
To be honest it's fairly obvious these teams will be the first to call for voiding leagues, as they are set to go down on unfair terms.
It's not a level playing field anymore this season.
Teams fighting for things (like me own) will be more keen to carry on, that doesn't mean they truly believe the competition is a fair reflection of all the teams though.
posted on 19/5/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 8 minutes ago
To be honest it's fairly obvious these teams will be the first to call for voiding leagues, as they are set to go down on unfair terms.
It's not a level playing field anymore this season.
Teams fighting for things (like me own) will be more keen to carry on, that doesn't mean they truly believe the competition is a fair reflection of all the teams though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are the current circumstances the same for every team.
Neutral venues is same for everyone.
No supporters in stadium is same for everyone.
League is 80% completed.
I dont want PPG. I want season played to a finish.
posted on 19/5/20
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 8 minutes ago
To be honest it's fairly obvious these teams will be the first to call for voiding leagues, as they are set to go down on unfair terms.
It's not a level playing field anymore this season.
Teams fighting for things (like me own) will be more keen to carry on, that doesn't mean they truly believe the competition is a fair reflection of all the teams though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are the current circumstances the same for every team.
> No because some teams will have had home advantage, some won't.
Neutral venues is same for everyone.
> It is in terms of the remaining games, not those before it
No supporters in stadium is same for everyone.
> Same as above
League is 80% completed.
> Yes it is
I dont want PPG. I want season played to a finish.
> Most people do
posted on 19/5/20
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 42 minutes ago
Really hope we can play our remaining games.
Teams will be where they deserve to be in the league after 46 games and then can have no arguments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That is totally bang on 👍🏼
posted on 19/5/20
Germany played their games at home venues this weekend!..
That takes the unfair debate away from those that don't want the neutral stadiums!..
And people saying they wont watch football because its crap not being there or empty stadiums take the spirit out of the game!..
Sky broke records for football figures this weekend and made a fortune out of people having to stay at home and watch it on the box!..
TV will make its money!..
And they've relaxed the shutdown to allow people in to pubs/sports bars, they can only sit 4 or 6 at tables for 10 or 12 people and the keeping distance rule is very strict!..
And you leave your name and address at the door in case anyone falls undetected through the net!..
posted on 19/5/20
The teams at the top have been the best for 80% of season.
The teams at bottom have been dire for 80% of season.
Tough.
Home advantage hasnt helped for all of seadon so far. If it had they wouldnt be in bottom 3.
If this virus had come in september october then yeah voiding season would not be an issue for most including me.
But 80% of season? Come on.
For football in its current format to survive then it has to go back to playing with these health risks just like us who need to work to be able to support our families.
If season is voided then a new one has to start asap for clubs to survive. Same restrictions and risks as there is now.
End of the day i will argue to suit my agenda and my teams interests.
Just like you are arguing for your own teams interests and your own agenda.
Powers that be will decide.
What will be will be.
posted on 19/5/20
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 10 minutes ago
The teams at the top have been the best for 80% of season.
The teams at bottom have been dire for 80% of season.
Tough.
Home advantage hasnt helped for all of seadon so far. If it had they wouldnt be in bottom 3.
If this virus had come in september october then yeah voiding season would not be an issue for most including me.
But 80% of season? Come on.
For football in its current format to survive then it has to go back to playing with these health risks just like us who need to work to be able to support our families.
If season is voided then a new one has to start asap for clubs to survive. Same restrictions and risks as there is now.
End of the day i will argue to suit my agenda and my teams interests.
Just like you are arguing for your own teams interests and your own agenda.
Powers that be will decide.
What will be will be.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
very true. the only unfair thing that could have happened in my view would have been to void the season. voiding would only appease the teams having dreadful seasons. if Leeds now go on to not get promoted ,i'll say fair result. but i'll be really p'ed off.
posted on 19/5/20
If Leeds play out the remaining fixtures and fail to get promotion I'll be totally gutted, but I won't be saying it's unfair and I won't be saying "we should have gone on PPG".
There's a risk of failure wherever there's a chance of success. It doesn't mean that the end result is unfair.
posted on 19/5/20
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 3 minutes ago
If Leeds play out the remaining fixtures and fail to get promotion I'll be totally gutted, but I won't be saying it's unfair and I won't be saying "we should have gone on PPG".
There's a risk of failure wherever there's a chance of success. It doesn't mean that the end result is unfair.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Completely agree.
We could balls it up for last 9 games.
But would rather win promotion and erarn it even though there is a risk.
If we ho up on PPG we would never hear the end of it.
posted on 19/5/20
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by LeedsFanFor45Years (U6871)
posted 3 minutes ago
If Leeds play out the remaining fixtures and fail to get promotion I'll be totally gutted, but I won't be saying it's unfair and I won't be saying "we should have gone on PPG".
There's a risk of failure wherever there's a chance of success. It doesn't mean that the end result is unfair.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Completely agree.
We could balls it up for last 9 games.
But would rather win promotion and erarn it even though there is a risk.
If we ho up on PPG we would never hear the end of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah earn your promotion like the Mighty Villa did!
Then after we survive we can enjoy whooping your keysters next season.
posted on 19/5/20
..Bumble, are you not supposed to be feeding your Queen a bit of honey?..
Shame you ain't in the Championship at this moment in time, I mean it'd be worst worrying more about Div 1 than the Championship!..
Mind, maybe you can do that next season!.
posted on 19/5/20
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
The teams at the top have been the best for 80% of season.
The teams at bottom have been dire for 80% of season.
Tough.
Home advantage hasnt helped for all of seadon so far. If it had they wouldnt be in bottom 3.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're ignoring the fact games at the bottom can be 6 pointers, they don't expect to bat the teams at the top. That's not to say they can't, but they don't plan to beat the big teams as much as they do their rivals fighting the drop.
posted on 19/5/20
some people here not realising that teams like mancure and arsesall will have unfair advantages due to the fact they are used to playing in stadiums with no noise so will they even notice no fans there?
posted on 19/5/20
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
<snip>
If we ho up on PPG we would never hear the end of it.
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That almost makes me want us to go up on PPG !
They hate us anyway - let's give them some more ammo!
posted on 19/5/20
comment by LDL-Potato Picker and Proud (U6788)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
some people here not realising that teams like mancure and arsesall will have unfair advantages due to the fact they are used to playing in stadiums with no noise so will they even notice no fans there?
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I’ve been to elland road this season when you played shef weds. All you could hear was the owls fans so let’s not throw stones at everyone else
posted on 19/5/20
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by 1 Star Bandit (Scunner) (U22287)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
The teams at the top have been the best for 80% of season.
The teams at bottom have been dire for 80% of season.
Tough.
Home advantage hasnt helped for all of seadon so far. If it had they wouldnt be in bottom 3.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're ignoring the fact games at the bottom can be 6 pointers, they don't expect to bat the teams at the top. That's not to say they can't, but they don't plan to beat the big teams as much as they do their rivals fighting the drop.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I also think it fails to take into account what 20% you have left to play.
You could, theoretically be in a situation where you are 18th 3 point behind 17th, but 17th has to play their remaining games against top half teams whereas you only have to play teams in the bottom half.
Personally I want it finished, because I dont get how points per game can be fair, when all the teams playing arnt on an even playing field
posted on 19/5/20
Hope Hull go down now, tigers my rrse. Id rather Leeds played the season out, whether that be successfully or failure in regards to promotion.
posted on 19/5/20
I fo also think that while there does have to be a certain level of cooperation with clubs themselves there does need to be also a point where the football leagues realise they are the ones running things and tell the clubs what to do and if they dont or wont then they can have the result as a three nil loss.
Clubs are always going to think in terms of their own self interest, as they should, but there gets a point where you have to say, yes you dont want to do this, but if you dont we move on without you
posted on 19/5/20
They were dropping like a stone, & probably on the way to relegation... Like you want to go up, they don't want to go down... This will be a legal nightmare... Can you see the bottom 5 in the Premier league making it easy to restart the season?....
posted on 19/5/20
Looking at it purely from a footy-fan point of view:
Voiding the season would be like giving a big middle finger to all who have paid money to watch games this season.
It's like the FA saying; if anything happens we can do whatever we please, and we don't care how much you have invested moneywise (and emotional I might add) this season.
You've paid your money. You've sat there and cheered for every goal, been grumpy for every conceded one, and in the end, for what?
For nothing. All for laughs.
End the season by playing the remaining games. It's the only way.
posted on 19/5/20
comment by Loidis-Norvegicus (U9680)
posted 52 minutes ago
Looking at it purely from a footy-fan point of view:
Voiding the season would be like giving a big middle finger to all who have paid money to watch games this season.
It's like the FA saying; if anything happens we can do whatever we please, and we don't care how much you have invested moneywise (and emotional I might add) this season.
You've paid your money. You've sat there and cheered for every goal, been grumpy for every conceded one, and in the end, for what?
For nothing. All for laughs.
End the season by playing the remaining games. It's the only way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's exactly what the FA have already done to the clubs that don't earn them any money, yet weirdly nobody seems to care passionately about that.
Totally agree with your last sentence though.
posted on 19/5/20
Funny thing is the season isn't over until the last games have been played, and clubs have signed up to play the league and in doing so have to play the rules!..
If the league don't do things the way they should be done, then football may as well give up!..
This is the players living,(WAGES!)and the clubs future,(LIVES!)they should just get on with what they're contracted to do and shut the feck up!..
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