Some people could even choose Leicester as the greatest title winners the league has ever seen due to their triumph over incredible odds.
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Good point - I really shouldn’t have missed them out.
I'd probably choose United 07-08 overall. Started quite slowly, lost four PL games and didn't get a particularly high points total, but I'd still choose them. Why? It's not even that they won the CL as well - it's the sheer quality of the starting XI plus squad depth:
Van der Sar
Brown
Vidic
Ferdinand
Evra
Hargreaves
Carrick
Scholes
Ronaldo
Tevez
Rooney
That's a ridiculous team. I know Brown stands out a little, but he was deputising for Gary Neville and had a terrific season (I always thought he was better at RB for us). Plus the likes of Giggs, Park, O'Shea, Saha, Fletcher, Nani, Anderson (who looked class that season) et al.
I'd choose them as "greatest title-winners" because I'd put that side as probably the greatest to have won the PL. And the fact that they did so three seasons running, with other major trophies as well, simply underlines their quality.
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I'd probably choose United 07-08 overall. Started quite slowly, lost four PL games and didn't get a particularly high points total, but I'd still choose them. Why? It's not even that they won the CL as well - it's the sheer quality of the starting XI plus squad depth:
Van der Sar
Brown
Vidic
Ferdinand
Evra
Hargreaves
Carrick
Scholes
Ronaldo
Tevez
Rooney
That's a ridiculous team. I know Brown stands out a little, but he was deputising for Gary Neville and had a terrific season (I always thought he was better at RB for us). Plus the likes of Giggs, Park, O'Shea, Saha, Fletcher, Nani, Anderson (who looked class that season) et al.
I'd choose them as "greatest title-winners" because I'd put that side as probably the greatest to have won the PL. And the fact that they did so three seasons running, with other major trophies as well, simply underlines their quality.
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You missed the fact that that team won when the league was very strong, possibly at its strongest between the top teams, who were going far in Europe and finishing regularly in the top 4.
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I'd probably choose United 07-08 overall. Started quite slowly, lost four PL games and didn't get a particularly high points total, but I'd still choose them. Why? It's not even that they won the CL as well - it's the sheer quality of the starting XI plus squad depth:
Van der Sar
Brown
Vidic
Ferdinand
Evra
Hargreaves
Carrick
Scholes
Ronaldo
Tevez
Rooney
That's a ridiculous team. I know Brown stands out a little, but he was deputising for Gary Neville and had a terrific season (I always thought he was better at RB for us). Plus the likes of Giggs, Park, O'Shea, Saha, Fletcher, Nani, Anderson (who looked class that season) et al.
I'd choose them as "greatest title-winners" because I'd put that side as probably the greatest to have won the PL. And the fact that they did so three seasons running, with other major trophies as well, simply underlines their quality.
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Whilst it’s a very good team, I still think that a number of our current players oust players from that team. Here’s my combined XI of that team with ours today, feel free to disagree and do your own.
Van der Sar
TAA Ferdinand VVD Evra
Scholes Fabinho Carrick
Salah Rooney Ronaldo
For me the gap between Alisson and VDS quality wise is minimal, as is the gap between Evra and Robertson, you could easily make a case for either.
I actually agree that United side that covered the three years between 07 and 09 was probably the best Pl side, based on the fact it is a great side, won titles and champions league finals.
However the fact I’m still picking half our current XI to get in there shows that 11 v 11 there is little in terms of quality between the two.
You missed the fact that that team won when the league was very strong, possibly at its strongest between the top teams, who were going far in Europe and finishing regularly in the top 4.
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Yes, I'd say the years roughly 04-10 were the Premier League's peak. Arsenal fell away a little after 05 but still had quality; Chelsea were strong even after Mourinho and could easily have won that 08 CL Final; Liverpool looked like champions for a while in 09; and, like you say, we regularly had teams in the last four and final of the CL.
The PL has definitely started to make an impression on the CL again in the last two or three years but only really City and Liverpool really belong at the top table right now, sadly.
The PL has definitely started to make an impression on the CL again in the last two or three years but only really City and Liverpool really belong at the top table right now, sadly.
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That looked like being the case but this season has seen a bit of a decline with a few teams experiencing transitional periods with new managers and players. We may not even have the third placed team make it to 70 points. That does somewhat count against Liverpool.
Can see a few teams picking up the pace next season though.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53198768
Have a read of this matth then go watch gary nevilles talk on how far footballs come and much better n harder the league is now in terms of competition.
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The PL has definitely started to make an impression on the CL again in the last two or three years but only really City and Liverpool really belong at the top table right now, sadly.
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That looked like being the case but this season has seen a bit of a decline with a few teams experiencing transitional periods with new managers and players. We may not even have the third placed team make it to 70 points. That does somewhat count against Liverpool.
Can see a few teams picking up the pace next season though.
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Chelsea and possibly United look like they could quickly improve and cement the other two top-four places. I still think City will be very good next season even if Liverpool will start as favourites. Pep has some rebuilding to do but there is not a lot in it, for me, between City and Liverpool and I still say I'd rather face Liverpool on form than City on form.
Spurs and Arsenal, it's hard to say. I've got a feeling Mourinho won't be at Spurs too long (he's never anywhere for long) and Arsenal... well, they just look way off a top team at the moment.
Liverpool have been excellent for three seasons now but there's no doubt that this season all of City, Chelsea, United, Spurs and Arsenal have been shadows of their best teams, with two being so far off the pace that they actually dispensed with their managers.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53198768
Have a read of this matth then go watch gary nevilles talk on how far footballs come and much better n harder the league is now in terms of competition.
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Obviously, things progress. Players get fitter, new training techniques, tactical innovations etc move the game forwards. But I'm not sure I agree with some of what Solskjaer is saying here.
"We've always had challengers, whether it was Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool. But most of the time it was just one of them challenging us," Solskjaer said.
"Finishing third wasn't normal. Now there are at least four, maybe five teams that can win the league and the cups.
Really? Who in their right mind would have tipped anyone other than City or Liverpool to win the league before this season kicked off? And I'd say the same was true the season before, and next season too.
Never understood why this question is so difficult to answer. Are liverpool they greatest team ever - no, they still have more to win over a sustained period of time.
However if we go on to break the 100 points then there is no question this has been the greatest top flight league season ever recorded by a team. Its there in black and white.
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Never understood why this question is so difficult to answer. Are liverpool they greatest team ever - no, they still have more to win over a sustained period of time.
However if we go on to break the 100 points then there is no question this has been the greatest top flight league season ever recorded by a team. Its there in black and white.
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Well, yes, if you only see things in black and white then I suppose it would be.
By the same logic, Liverpool’s league campaign last season was better than United’s in 99, Arsenal’s in 04 and Chelsea’s in 05, because they got more points. Let’s forget the fact that they didn’t actually win the league: it’s points that define greatness.
For once i agree. This Liverpool side have done great but they are not close to one of the best prem sides in my opinion
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Never understood why this question is so difficult to answer. Are liverpool they greatest team ever - no, they still have more to win over a sustained period of time.
However if we go on to break the 100 points then there is no question this has been the greatest top flight league season ever recorded by a team. Its there in black and white.
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Well, yes, if you only see things in black and white then I suppose it would be.
By the same logic, Liverpool’s league campaign last season was better than United’s in 99, Arsenal’s in 04 and Chelsea’s in 05, because they got more points. Let’s forget the fact that they didn’t actually win the league: it’s points that define greatness.
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I'm sure there are teams who even finished third who had more points than that United treble winning team had. Obviously they weren't better though.
Man United did what they needed to to win the league in that era. Back then it was the second highest points total for a 20 team league. It's a different era now where the average points total has increased and you need more points to win. Without City setting the bar of 100 points Liverpool wouldn't have grown and performed so strongly.
We are not the greatest ever but definitely in the top 5.
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Never understood why this question is so difficult to answer. Are liverpool they greatest team ever - no, they still have more to win over a sustained period of time.
However if we go on to break the 100 points then there is no question this has been the greatest top flight league season ever recorded by a team. Its there in black and white.
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Well, yes, if you only see things in black and white then I suppose it would be.
By the same logic, Liverpool’s league campaign last season was better than United’s in 99, Arsenal’s in 04 and Chelsea’s in 05, because they got more points. Let’s forget the fact that they didn’t actually win the league: it’s points that define greatness.
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I'm sure there are teams who even finished third who had more points than that United treble winning team had. Obviously they weren't better though.
Man United did what they needed to to win the league in that era. Back then it was the second highest points total for a 20 team league. It's a different era now where the average points total has increased and you need more points to win. Without City setting the bar of 100 points Liverpool wouldn't have grown and performed so strongly.
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And yet United have won the double and the CL in that season. Don’t compare points totals.
100+ points for a team shows the paucity of the rest of the league. Plus, United managed a squad for three completions. Winning all three.
If we continue as we have and say drop only 9 or 10 points across the season, how you can argue thats not the best league campaign a teams has ever produced is beyond me. Each to their own though
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If we continue as we have and say drop only 9 or 10 points across the season, how you can argue thats not the best league campaign a teams has ever produced is beyond me. Each to their own though
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But the question being discussed isn't about "the best league campaign a team has ever produced". It's about "the greatest title-winners the Premier League has ever seen". They are not quite the same.
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Never understood why this question is so difficult to answer. Are liverpool they greatest team ever - no, they still have more to win over a sustained period of time.
However if we go on to break the 100 points then there is no question this has been the greatest top flight league season ever recorded by a team. Its there in black and white.
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Well, yes, if you only see things in black and white then I suppose it would be.
By the same logic, Liverpool’s league campaign last season was better than United’s in 99, Arsenal’s in 04 and Chelsea’s in 05, because they got more points. Let’s forget the fact that they didn’t actually win the league: it’s points that define greatness.
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I'm sure there are teams who even finished third who had more points than that United treble winning team had. Obviously they weren't better though.
Man United did what they needed to to win the league in that era. Back then it was the second highest points total for a 20 team league. It's a different era now where the average points total has increased and you need more points to win. Without City setting the bar of 100 points Liverpool wouldn't have grown and performed so strongly.
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And yet United have won the double and the CL in that season. Don’t compare points totals.
100+ points for a team shows the paucity of the rest of the league. Plus, United managed a squad for three completions. Winning all three.
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Look im not going to get into a back and forth with you on a saturday night. The title is the premier league. So surely the question relates to winners of said title.
I think most people on here (including myself) have already conceded liverpool have a lot more to do to be called the greatest side ever. The fact you cant concede this team are the greatest title winners comes across a bit bitter. Now theres people chiming about the competition being weak, where were they when city racked up 100 points. The league is no weaker or stronger than it was 10 15 years ago. The only difference is the top 2 are not united and chelsea, or united and arsenal. Its us and city.
If we continue as we have theres a list as long as my arm of records we will break. Thats all the evidence anyone should need.
Il let you have the last word though pal. I wont be here. Theres no reasoning or debate with this kind of drivel.
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posted on 27/6/20
Some people could even choose Leicester as the greatest title winners the league has ever seen due to their triumph over incredible odds.
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Good point - I really shouldn’t have missed them out.
posted on 27/6/20
I'd probably choose United 07-08 overall. Started quite slowly, lost four PL games and didn't get a particularly high points total, but I'd still choose them. Why? It's not even that they won the CL as well - it's the sheer quality of the starting XI plus squad depth:
Van der Sar
Brown
Vidic
Ferdinand
Evra
Hargreaves
Carrick
Scholes
Ronaldo
Tevez
Rooney
That's a ridiculous team. I know Brown stands out a little, but he was deputising for Gary Neville and had a terrific season (I always thought he was better at RB for us). Plus the likes of Giggs, Park, O'Shea, Saha, Fletcher, Nani, Anderson (who looked class that season) et al.
I'd choose them as "greatest title-winners" because I'd put that side as probably the greatest to have won the PL. And the fact that they did so three seasons running, with other major trophies as well, simply underlines their quality.
posted on 27/6/20
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posted 7 minutes ago
I'd probably choose United 07-08 overall. Started quite slowly, lost four PL games and didn't get a particularly high points total, but I'd still choose them. Why? It's not even that they won the CL as well - it's the sheer quality of the starting XI plus squad depth:
Van der Sar
Brown
Vidic
Ferdinand
Evra
Hargreaves
Carrick
Scholes
Ronaldo
Tevez
Rooney
That's a ridiculous team. I know Brown stands out a little, but he was deputising for Gary Neville and had a terrific season (I always thought he was better at RB for us). Plus the likes of Giggs, Park, O'Shea, Saha, Fletcher, Nani, Anderson (who looked class that season) et al.
I'd choose them as "greatest title-winners" because I'd put that side as probably the greatest to have won the PL. And the fact that they did so three seasons running, with other major trophies as well, simply underlines their quality.
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You missed the fact that that team won when the league was very strong, possibly at its strongest between the top teams, who were going far in Europe and finishing regularly in the top 4.
posted on 27/6/20
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posted 2 minutes ago
I'd probably choose United 07-08 overall. Started quite slowly, lost four PL games and didn't get a particularly high points total, but I'd still choose them. Why? It's not even that they won the CL as well - it's the sheer quality of the starting XI plus squad depth:
Van der Sar
Brown
Vidic
Ferdinand
Evra
Hargreaves
Carrick
Scholes
Ronaldo
Tevez
Rooney
That's a ridiculous team. I know Brown stands out a little, but he was deputising for Gary Neville and had a terrific season (I always thought he was better at RB for us). Plus the likes of Giggs, Park, O'Shea, Saha, Fletcher, Nani, Anderson (who looked class that season) et al.
I'd choose them as "greatest title-winners" because I'd put that side as probably the greatest to have won the PL. And the fact that they did so three seasons running, with other major trophies as well, simply underlines their quality.
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Whilst it’s a very good team, I still think that a number of our current players oust players from that team. Here’s my combined XI of that team with ours today, feel free to disagree and do your own.
Van der Sar
TAA Ferdinand VVD Evra
Scholes Fabinho Carrick
Salah Rooney Ronaldo
For me the gap between Alisson and VDS quality wise is minimal, as is the gap between Evra and Robertson, you could easily make a case for either.
I actually agree that United side that covered the three years between 07 and 09 was probably the best Pl side, based on the fact it is a great side, won titles and champions league finals.
However the fact I’m still picking half our current XI to get in there shows that 11 v 11 there is little in terms of quality between the two.
posted on 27/6/20
You missed the fact that that team won when the league was very strong, possibly at its strongest between the top teams, who were going far in Europe and finishing regularly in the top 4.
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Yes, I'd say the years roughly 04-10 were the Premier League's peak. Arsenal fell away a little after 05 but still had quality; Chelsea were strong even after Mourinho and could easily have won that 08 CL Final; Liverpool looked like champions for a while in 09; and, like you say, we regularly had teams in the last four and final of the CL.
The PL has definitely started to make an impression on the CL again in the last two or three years but only really City and Liverpool really belong at the top table right now, sadly.
posted on 27/6/20
The PL has definitely started to make an impression on the CL again in the last two or three years but only really City and Liverpool really belong at the top table right now, sadly.
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That looked like being the case but this season has seen a bit of a decline with a few teams experiencing transitional periods with new managers and players. We may not even have the third placed team make it to 70 points. That does somewhat count against Liverpool.
Can see a few teams picking up the pace next season though.
posted on 27/6/20
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53198768
Have a read of this matth then go watch gary nevilles talk on how far footballs come and much better n harder the league is now in terms of competition.
posted on 27/6/20
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The PL has definitely started to make an impression on the CL again in the last two or three years but only really City and Liverpool really belong at the top table right now, sadly.
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That looked like being the case but this season has seen a bit of a decline with a few teams experiencing transitional periods with new managers and players. We may not even have the third placed team make it to 70 points. That does somewhat count against Liverpool.
Can see a few teams picking up the pace next season though.
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Chelsea and possibly United look like they could quickly improve and cement the other two top-four places. I still think City will be very good next season even if Liverpool will start as favourites. Pep has some rebuilding to do but there is not a lot in it, for me, between City and Liverpool and I still say I'd rather face Liverpool on form than City on form.
Spurs and Arsenal, it's hard to say. I've got a feeling Mourinho won't be at Spurs too long (he's never anywhere for long) and Arsenal... well, they just look way off a top team at the moment.
Liverpool have been excellent for three seasons now but there's no doubt that this season all of City, Chelsea, United, Spurs and Arsenal have been shadows of their best teams, with two being so far off the pace that they actually dispensed with their managers.
posted on 27/6/20
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53198768
Have a read of this matth then go watch gary nevilles talk on how far footballs come and much better n harder the league is now in terms of competition.
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Obviously, things progress. Players get fitter, new training techniques, tactical innovations etc move the game forwards. But I'm not sure I agree with some of what Solskjaer is saying here.
"We've always had challengers, whether it was Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool. But most of the time it was just one of them challenging us," Solskjaer said.
"Finishing third wasn't normal. Now there are at least four, maybe five teams that can win the league and the cups.
Really? Who in their right mind would have tipped anyone other than City or Liverpool to win the league before this season kicked off? And I'd say the same was true the season before, and next season too.
posted on 27/6/20
Never understood why this question is so difficult to answer. Are liverpool they greatest team ever - no, they still have more to win over a sustained period of time.
However if we go on to break the 100 points then there is no question this has been the greatest top flight league season ever recorded by a team. Its there in black and white.
posted on 27/6/20
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Never understood why this question is so difficult to answer. Are liverpool they greatest team ever - no, they still have more to win over a sustained period of time.
However if we go on to break the 100 points then there is no question this has been the greatest top flight league season ever recorded by a team. Its there in black and white.
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Well, yes, if you only see things in black and white then I suppose it would be.
By the same logic, Liverpool’s league campaign last season was better than United’s in 99, Arsenal’s in 04 and Chelsea’s in 05, because they got more points. Let’s forget the fact that they didn’t actually win the league: it’s points that define greatness.
posted on 27/6/20
For once i agree. This Liverpool side have done great but they are not close to one of the best prem sides in my opinion
posted on 27/6/20
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Never understood why this question is so difficult to answer. Are liverpool they greatest team ever - no, they still have more to win over a sustained period of time.
However if we go on to break the 100 points then there is no question this has been the greatest top flight league season ever recorded by a team. Its there in black and white.
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Well, yes, if you only see things in black and white then I suppose it would be.
By the same logic, Liverpool’s league campaign last season was better than United’s in 99, Arsenal’s in 04 and Chelsea’s in 05, because they got more points. Let’s forget the fact that they didn’t actually win the league: it’s points that define greatness.
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I'm sure there are teams who even finished third who had more points than that United treble winning team had. Obviously they weren't better though.
Man United did what they needed to to win the league in that era. Back then it was the second highest points total for a 20 team league. It's a different era now where the average points total has increased and you need more points to win. Without City setting the bar of 100 points Liverpool wouldn't have grown and performed so strongly.
posted on 27/6/20
We are not the greatest ever but definitely in the top 5.
posted on 27/6/20
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Never understood why this question is so difficult to answer. Are liverpool they greatest team ever - no, they still have more to win over a sustained period of time.
However if we go on to break the 100 points then there is no question this has been the greatest top flight league season ever recorded by a team. Its there in black and white.
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Well, yes, if you only see things in black and white then I suppose it would be.
By the same logic, Liverpool’s league campaign last season was better than United’s in 99, Arsenal’s in 04 and Chelsea’s in 05, because they got more points. Let’s forget the fact that they didn’t actually win the league: it’s points that define greatness.
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I'm sure there are teams who even finished third who had more points than that United treble winning team had. Obviously they weren't better though.
Man United did what they needed to to win the league in that era. Back then it was the second highest points total for a 20 team league. It's a different era now where the average points total has increased and you need more points to win. Without City setting the bar of 100 points Liverpool wouldn't have grown and performed so strongly.
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And yet United have won the double and the CL in that season. Don’t compare points totals.
100+ points for a team shows the paucity of the rest of the league. Plus, United managed a squad for three completions. Winning all three.
posted on 27/6/20
If we continue as we have and say drop only 9 or 10 points across the season, how you can argue thats not the best league campaign a teams has ever produced is beyond me. Each to their own though
posted on 27/6/20
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If we continue as we have and say drop only 9 or 10 points across the season, how you can argue thats not the best league campaign a teams has ever produced is beyond me. Each to their own though
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But the question being discussed isn't about "the best league campaign a team has ever produced". It's about "the greatest title-winners the Premier League has ever seen". They are not quite the same.
posted on 27/6/20
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Never understood why this question is so difficult to answer. Are liverpool they greatest team ever - no, they still have more to win over a sustained period of time.
However if we go on to break the 100 points then there is no question this has been the greatest top flight league season ever recorded by a team. Its there in black and white.
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Well, yes, if you only see things in black and white then I suppose it would be.
By the same logic, Liverpool’s league campaign last season was better than United’s in 99, Arsenal’s in 04 and Chelsea’s in 05, because they got more points. Let’s forget the fact that they didn’t actually win the league: it’s points that define greatness.
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I'm sure there are teams who even finished third who had more points than that United treble winning team had. Obviously they weren't better though.
Man United did what they needed to to win the league in that era. Back then it was the second highest points total for a 20 team league. It's a different era now where the average points total has increased and you need more points to win. Without City setting the bar of 100 points Liverpool wouldn't have grown and performed so strongly.
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And yet United have won the double and the CL in that season. Don’t compare points totals.
100+ points for a team shows the paucity of the rest of the league. Plus, United managed a squad for three completions. Winning all three.
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posted on 27/6/20
Look im not going to get into a back and forth with you on a saturday night. The title is the premier league. So surely the question relates to winners of said title.
I think most people on here (including myself) have already conceded liverpool have a lot more to do to be called the greatest side ever. The fact you cant concede this team are the greatest title winners comes across a bit bitter. Now theres people chiming about the competition being weak, where were they when city racked up 100 points. The league is no weaker or stronger than it was 10 15 years ago. The only difference is the top 2 are not united and chelsea, or united and arsenal. Its us and city.
If we continue as we have theres a list as long as my arm of records we will break. Thats all the evidence anyone should need.
Il let you have the last word though pal. I wont be here. Theres no reasoning or debate with this kind of drivel.
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