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posted on 30/6/20

comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 13 minutes ago
I’m looking at Australia - handled the pandemic perfectly and hardly any cases but there’s been a huge spike in Victoria this week which has shown just how quickly this can come back to be a big problem in a short space of time. Went from zero new cases at the beginning of the month to 139 new cases in two days this week once lockdown was lifted in ways that the UK haven’t started yet.

My negativity comes from seeing so many selfish and ignorant people walking the streets and in the news who don’t seem to care. Once pubs open this Saturday (a stupid day to open up the world again) don’t be surprised to see cases rise all over the country.
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Is 139 cases huge?

Countries seem to be handling small outbreaks well, with no major spread and very few deaths - Germany, South Korea, Australia.

None of that leads to a conclusion we'll see a wave worse than the one we're in, does it?

posted on 30/6/20

I’m with Winston. There is no evidence whatsoever of a 2nd wave anywhere, so what experts on here seem to think the U.K. will get a 2nd wave ? No country has had a 2nd wave. Some countries have had the odd town/ city go into partial lockdown, but there has been no 2nd wave. I get the impression some people actually enjoy this and are secretly hoping for a 2nd wave, so they can be lazy ba*** for 8 months and not work. It’s scaremongering Bolloks and nobody has any evidence as to predicting we are in for a horrendous winter. The virus is on a downward trend and has been for months. The deaths are getting lower and the hospital cases far less. If people want to spend the rest of the year indoors in a dark room then that’s you’re choice. Stop lambasting people who want to get on with life.

posted on 30/6/20

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m with Winston. There is no evidence whatsoever of a 2nd wave anywhere, so what experts on here seem to think the U.K. will get a 2nd wave ? No country has had a 2nd wave. Some countries have had the odd town/ city go into partial lockdown, but there has been no 2nd wave. I get the impression some people actually enjoy this and are secretly hoping for a 2nd wave, so they can be lazy ba*** for 8 months and not work. It’s scaremongering Bolloks and nobody has any evidence as to predicting we are in for a horrendous winter. The virus is on a downward trend and has been for months. The deaths are getting lower and the hospital cases far less. If people want to spend the rest of the year indoors in a dark room then that’s you’re choice. Stop lambasting people who want to get on with life.
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Everyone wants to get on with life

It’s not a choice

posted on 30/6/20

comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m with Winston. There is no evidence whatsoever of a 2nd wave anywhere, so what experts on here seem to think the U.K. will get a 2nd wave ? No country has had a 2nd wave. Some countries have had the odd town/ city go into partial lockdown, but there has been no 2nd wave. I get the impression some people actually enjoy this and are secretly hoping for a 2nd wave, so they can be lazy ba*** for 8 months and not work. It’s scaremongering Bolloks and nobody has any evidence as to predicting we are in for a horrendous winter. The virus is on a downward trend and has been for months. The deaths are getting lower and the hospital cases far less. If people want to spend the rest of the year indoors in a dark room then that’s you’re choice. Stop lambasting people who want to get on with life.
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Everyone wants to get on with life

It’s not a choice
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Well it is a choice mate. As long as you stick to the social distancing measures, practice the hygiene advice and abide by the current rules, you can safely resume life and get back to some sort of normality. I don’t understand what people expect, the country to be on lockdown and not functioning for the next year ? What is wrong with people. There is no vaccine at this present time, so we are just going to have to live with this thing. If people want to stay indoors for the rest of the year, that is their issue.

posted on 30/6/20

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m with Winston. There is no evidence whatsoever of a 2nd wave anywhere, so what experts on here seem to think the U.K. will get a 2nd wave ? No country has had a 2nd wave. Some countries have had the odd town/ city go into partial lockdown, but there has been no 2nd wave. I get the impression some people actually enjoy this and are secretly hoping for a 2nd wave, so they can be lazy ba*** for 8 months and not work. It’s scaremongering Bolloks and nobody has any evidence as to predicting we are in for a horrendous winter. The virus is on a downward trend and has been for months. The deaths are getting lower and the hospital cases far less. If people want to spend the rest of the year indoors in a dark room then that’s you’re choice. Stop lambasting people who want to get on with life.
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Everyone wants to get on with life

It’s not a choice
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Well it is a choice mate. As long as you stick to the social distancing measures, practice the hygiene advice and abide by the current rules, you can safely resume life and get back to some sort of normality. I don’t understand what people expect, the country to be on lockdown and not functioning for the next year ? What is wrong with people. There is no vaccine at this present time, so we are just going to have to live with this thing. If people want to stay indoors for the rest of the year, that is their issue.
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To be honest Don, that is what a lot of old people may have to do. It is mainly the old people that are going to be the worse off. So it is very churlish to say stuff you lot, I am going to get on with my life whatever happens to you.

posted on 30/6/20

Everything is “scaremongering b0llocks” to dozy Don and his ilk.

My advice, let’s those idiots get on with it, stay safe, sit back and let Darwinism do its thing.

posted on 30/6/20

Live with this thing? More like die with this thing.

posted on 30/6/20

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m with Winston. There is no evidence whatsoever of a 2nd wave anywhere, so what experts on here seem to think the U.K. will get a 2nd wave ? No country has had a 2nd wave. Some countries have had the odd town/ city go into partial lockdown, but there has been no 2nd wave. I get the impression some people actually enjoy this and are secretly hoping for a 2nd wave, so they can be lazy ba*** for 8 months and not work. It’s scaremongering Bolloks and nobody has any evidence as to predicting we are in for a horrendous winter. The virus is on a downward trend and has been for months. The deaths are getting lower and the hospital cases far less. If people want to spend the rest of the year indoors in a dark room then that’s you’re choice. Stop lambasting people who want to get on with life.
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Everyone wants to get on with life

It’s not a choice
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Well it is a choice mate. As long as you stick to the social distancing measures, practice the hygiene advice and abide by the current rules, you can safely resume life and get back to some sort of normality. I don’t understand what people expect, the country to be on lockdown and not functioning for the next year ? What is wrong with people. There is no vaccine at this present time, so we are just going to have to live with this thing. If people want to stay indoors for the rest of the year, that is their issue.
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"The virus is on a downward trend and has been for months. The deaths are getting lower and the hospital cases far less." But this is surely because no pubs, restaurants, cinemas, gyms or museums have been open; all music events have been cancelled or postponed and sporting events either the same or played without fans; and millions of people have been working from home.

I don't think the virus has changed significantly in terms of a) how it spreads or b) how severe it is once contracted, so my question is, why would anybody NOT expect cases to accelerate rapidly once things open up again? What has changed since mid-March in that respect?

It's all well and good saying we just have to "stick to the social distancing measures, practice the hygiene advice and abide by the current rules", but the more people who decide they don't "want to stay indoors for the rest of the year", the harder it will be to maintain social distancing, on public transport, in pubs, in shops and so on.

To me, it seems like we either don't go "back to normal" (or anything like it, really) but dip our toes in the water as much as we can, or we have an inevitable second wave.

posted on 30/6/20

Open question to you all.

What percentage of people amongst your friends and family, and the people you actually see when you leave the house, do you think are disregarding the current guidance?

For me, it's barely anyone. I can't think of a single friend I've heard talk about doing anything outside the guidance.

When I leave the house for a run or to go to the shop, the vast majority of people go out of their way not to come close, they stick to the lines in queues and walk single file to the side of the pavement when passing.

What's your experience?

I truly believe the majority of people are scared and nervous, and sticking to the rules.

posted on 30/6/20

Haven’t you two filtered each other Sizz ?

posted on 30/6/20

"why would anybody NOT expect cases to accelerate rapidly once things open up again?"

Because things are being opened up with rules in place to help prevent the spread.

Reduced capacity, table service only, queuing systems, track and trace.

No one is opening up a leisure business without these things in place.

posted on 30/6/20

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 13 seconds ago
Haven’t you two filtered each other Sizz ?
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Yes months ago.

But can see each other’s comments if someone else replies to them.

posted on 30/6/20

Worth noting that the number of new coronavirus cases has risen in Europe for the first time in months, since lockdown measures have been eased.

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 30/6/20

pubs havent even reopened yet. not looking good at all. could be carnage

posted on 30/6/20

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 minutes ago
I’m with Winston. There is no evidence whatsoever of a 2nd wave anywhere, so what experts on here seem to think the U.K. will get a 2nd wave ? No country has had a 2nd wave. Some countries have had the odd town/ city go into partial lockdown, but there has been no 2nd wave. I get the impression some people actually enjoy this and are secretly hoping for a 2nd wave, so they can be lazy ba*** for 8 months and not work. It’s scaremongering Bolloks and nobody has any evidence as to predicting we are in for a horrendous winter. The virus is on a downward trend and has been for months. The deaths are getting lower and the hospital cases far less. If people want to spend the rest of the year indoors in a dark room then that’s you’re choice. Stop lambasting people who want to get on with life.
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Everyone wants to get on with life

It’s not a choice
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Well it is a choice mate. As long as you stick to the social distancing measures, practice the hygiene advice and abide by the current rules, you can safely resume life and get back to some sort of normality. I don’t understand what people expect, the country to be on lockdown and not functioning for the next year ? What is wrong with people. There is no vaccine at this present time, so we are just going to have to live with this thing. If people want to stay indoors for the rest of the year, that is their issue.
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To be honest Don, that is what a lot of old people may have to do. It is mainly the old people that are going to be the worse off. So it is very churlish to say stuff you lot, I am going to get on with my life whatever happens to you.
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That’s entirely up to you sandy mate. I don’t see why I should stop life just because you have to. I would never compromise anybody and abide by all the rules, so I’m certainly not going to put anyone in danger, but some of us work dude. We are not all retired like you. The country and our economy has stopped for long enough now and it’s time we open up slowly.

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 30/6/20

go play golf ffs Sandy. Courses been open months

posted on 30/6/20

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
Worth noting that the number of new coronavirus cases has risen in Europe for the first time in months, since lockdown measures have been eased.
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If I took off a parachute in mid-fall, I'd expect to fall a lot faster.

Obviously, I understand that we have to get out of lockdown. But the more "normal" life is, the higher the infections will be. And if they remain low, it will be because life generally is nothing like "normal". That's the predicament.

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 30/6/20

you can go fishing. make a change from you fishing on here all day everyday

posted on 30/6/20

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
Worth noting that the number of new coronavirus cases has risen in Europe for the first time in months, since lockdown measures have been eased.
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Would need to see the numbers to put this into context imo.

posted on 30/6/20

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
Worth noting that the number of new coronavirus cases has risen in Europe for the first time in months, since lockdown measures have been eased.
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Then sit indoors for the rest of the year dude. Nobody is stopping you.

posted on 30/6/20

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
Worth noting that the number of new coronavirus cases has risen in Europe for the first time in months, since lockdown measures have been eased.
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Then sit indoors for the rest of the year dude. Nobody is stopping you.
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I just don't understand what an answer like that is supposed to achieve. There is a debate going on here about the likelihood of a second wave as lockdowns ease; somebody offers some evidence that it's a genuine concern and your answer is that he should stay at home if he wants to? How on earth does that constitute an answer at all?

posted on 30/6/20

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
Worth noting that the number of new coronavirus cases has risen in Europe for the first time in months, since lockdown measures have been eased.
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Then sit indoors for the rest of the year dude. Nobody is stopping you.
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It doesn’t really work that way. It’s a collective process and just because some younger people seem invincible doesn’t mean that there can be people who stay in and people who go out.

posted on 30/6/20

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posted on 30/6/20

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
Worth noting that the number of new coronavirus cases has risen in Europe for the first time in months, since lockdown measures have been eased.
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Then sit indoors for the rest of the year dude. Nobody is stopping you.
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I just don't understand what an answer like that is supposed to achieve. There is a debate going on here about the likelihood of a second wave as lockdowns ease; somebody offers some evidence that it's a genuine concern and your answer is that he should stay at home if he wants to? How on earth does that constitute an answer at all?
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There’s no evidence of a 2nd wave whatsoever. Just scare mongering bulls**. An excuse for lazy bas*** to sit at home and do nothing for the next year, utterly ridiculous. We will have to unfortunately live with this until we get a vaccine and some of you want the economy to just close for the next 2 years. Pure hysteria

posted on 30/6/20

There’s even one idiot on this site who said this nugget of gold..

‘The world has 7 billion people and only 500,000 of those died from Covid. Was it really worth locking down?’

That’s the kind of idiocy the world is facing.

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